I've yet to find any hit pieces or debunkings of this even on leddit.
I just finished the first book and the whole context surrounding it seems legit.
>mechanical engineering professor does UFO research for 30 years
>refers to all of his findings as "data" to be interpreted
>starts a meditation group to allegedly "channel" info from ETs
>makes contact with the egyptian Sun God Ra
>The channelings consist of an unconscious woman speaking after being asked questions
>All of the audio recordings are posted on youtube
Yes, altering your consciousness in certain ways can allow you to contact demons and even extract information from them. The military does this as well using DMT drips, or so I have heard.
same anon
best information i've found to date
answered a lot of questions
cant say its steered me wrong so far
any questions?
also some clarification
ra's not the egyptian sun god
but thats what the egyptians warped them into after they left and broke contact
basically every time other beings come and drop some truth it gets warped after x amount of years
You can't "debunk" something that's just someone's opinion of something she supposedly heard from an interdimensional entity. Something she channeled. Anyway it's interesting stuff. Has a lot of good stuff to it IMO. One of the central canons of the New Age movement. Also interesting is one of the guys involved in the channeling IIRC went insane and killed himself?
>Also interesting is one of the guys involved in the channeling IIRC went insane and killed himself?
>do amazing life changing work for side of light
>actually accomplish your preincarnation mission
>have insecurities and traumas like any normal human being
>evil forces use any cracks and slip ups psychically attack you to snuff out your light and end your mission
>break down after 50 yrs
it was either suicide or death by cops
knowing american cops they were going to shoot him
educate yourself on the story
out of all the information they've provides thats the least important
they're still channeling to this day
llresearch
quality is just as high
The dude who died was a wanderer from a high density I forget what, after his work was done staying on this planet of apes was pointless and he took a dramatic exit. Another lesser perspective would be that thanks to his good work the Js kept restlessly attacking him. Based on an interview with Carla the dude was conscious about what was happening and didn't really mind.
>how christianity relates to the law of one
Christianity is based on duality, Christ and RA told about unity.
who was it who committed suicide? don elkins?
More sauce ? I tried googling but i didnt find pretty much anything else than book sellers or simple info on the book
The distortions I mentioned in Don also played a big role. "Buying a home" for his "family", as unconventional as this situation was, was something that was hard for him to do. He saw his dad as someone who sacrificed so much for his wife and children, who worked himself to the bone to provide for his "cubs", and did not want this life for himself. So being presented with an interesting distortion of this type of service was a battle for him to willingly choose, and a large opening for the negative entities to pick at his insecurities and unwillingness to make this sacrifice. As you see, sacrifice is an important part of harmonious service within a group and not a common topic of discussion in Law of One circles, as it's not the most fun part of the material. But it absolutely should be discussed far more often, as this is the meaning of the ankh which is repeated throughout the archetypes.
During this time of upheaval when they essentially didn't have a home (they rented a few places that were unsuitable but lived out of their boxes and never unpacked), Don and Carla had a "deleterious energy exchange" (106.13). Basically Carla said that she would be the strong one and Don could be the weak and foolish one, and this exchange of roles actually occurred due to their high level of bonding and their work in the magical realms. Carla had to deal with Don's fears and paranoias and lack of faith that he constantly suppressed, which she was able to overcome through her devout faith, and Don had to deal with the experience of opening his heart and being vulnerable. This was extremely difficult for him to deal with, and essentially made him the "weak link" in the group and the negative entity began to focus more on undoing Don psychologically than undoing Carla physically, as removing one person from the group was the only way to stop them from channeling Ra.
holy shit where did you find this info?
It's from reddit written by a spiritual normie with no sources, still mostly right.
Cool stuff. Friend of mine tuned me in, or I wouldn't have ever come across it. Helped me understand the nature of channelling and how the medium distorts the transmission, which is so huge in any spiritual work. Went from ra to course in miracles which is like Ra material but instead of Ra it's Christ, and instead of a group of hippies it's two top psych researchers. I found course in miracles to be both more practical and relevant. Not sci Fi and whatever else, Ra material is all ancient aliens and the questioners are often just super dense.
>Not sci Fi and whatever else
reality is way beyond science fiction
>Ra material is all ancient aliens
thats because real life IS ancient aliens
the history we were taught is bunk
amazon pyramids that they just "discovered" were mentioned in the ra material in 1980
>and the questioners are often just super dense.
no one said the mysteries of the universe were gonna be ez
I can break some stuff down if u have question
i can break down most things except for the archetype stuff
other easier material would be tao te ching or emerald tablet(single tablet)
acim is good too as u said
theres living the law of one 101
which is by carla and much easier to innerstand and more practical
can you point me to where in the transcript the amazon pyramids were mentioned?
I'd like your opinion on how christianity relates to the law of one. It looks like Carla was a Christian and remained so up until her death. Seems like a lot of Christian claims are contradicted by The Ra Material though, like humans not being the center of the universe, life on other planets, Jesus not being the one and only way to "salvation", etc etc.
A debunking, to me, would look something like, "here's a plausible "natural" explanation for the events described, like "this is the reason Don elkins and carla fabricated x y and z for decades and this is how they did it"
>how christianity relates to the law of one
the teachings of christ are the teachings of the law of one. it's important to strip away the socio-cultural conditioning of the channel. You only speak the language you know and transcendental information by nature transcends the information you already know. Capital T Truth is stepped down to truth. Depending on the clarity of the channel, the information will be more or less clear. Major variables that affect the channel's clarity are things like their intent, ritualistic trappings, how deep a trance state they're in, but most of all, their preconceptions. ra team were not the most enlightened of individuals and it shows.
As for the teachings of christianity not conforming to much of what ra says and vice versa, without going point by point it comes down to really like one or two things. passage of time and translation influencing the teachings is one, another is jesus as symbol vs. jesus as man, and so on.
>real life IS ancient aliens
my issue isn't that they were trying to get at the history of the planet. it's that they were focused on trying to get the facts straight through history and narrative, when ra explicitly tells them, multiple times, things like "the age of the pyramid has passed, here's what's actually important" and then they go, "yeah, but what about dem pyramids?" this happens throughout the dialogues. they did not take advantage of the opportunity in front of them by asking valid questions. like <20% of the dialogues are worthwhile. they wasted months and months on rabbit holes just to invalidate their assumptions, and then they just release the dialogues straight, without any sort of actual editing. this kind of thing happens. no judgement on them, god doesn't use perfect people, just uses what's there, and they did their best. having gone through john dee's interactions and his grimoires, I've seen how channeled works can be compiled properly, and they didn't do it.
This is worth reading
imma say no on that one
its has some half truths mixed in with some bs
more of a larp or join our order type deal than anything
You'd think so until you understood the context, it's worth taking a deep dive
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/revelations_elitefamilyinsider.pdf
looks a lot like this
https://www.wanttoknow.info/secret_societies/hidden_hand_081018
>https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/revelations_elitefamilyinsider.pdf
The only "insider" info I trust
was hidden 2008 & 2018/19 or the occasional EerieWeb one thats legit
while there are other "insiders" like that post
they're just as clueless or manipulated as anyone else
you think the people at the top are really giving truths to their pawns? plz
they only give what strengthens their control
literally just read ra material or the newer material
you'll get way more insight
at some point the conspiracy stuff, stops mattering and you set your aim higher
>egyptian Sun God
if you read the book you know all of that is wrong
yes I'm aware Ra was mistakenly deified by the egyptians I just wrote it that way in the OP to shorten it
>can you point me to where in the transcript the amazon pyramids were mentioned?
https://techcrunch.com/2022/05/27/lidar-exposes-the-remnants-of-an-overgrown-ancient-civilization-in-the-amazon/
https://www.lawofone.info/s/23#16 1981
>I'd like your opinion on how Christianity relates to the law of one. Seems like a lot of Christian claims are contradicted by The Ra Material though
Christianity and the bible are human creations
the bible itself is a book like any other
filled with attempts of normal beings to understand the mysteries of the universe
the bible was written by multiple people over multiple time periods and has multiple books removed and censored over the years
it is not meant to be taken 1000% literally
it contains facts, truths, half-truths, lies, deception, and everything in between
its a mixed message
HOWEVER that does not mean that you can't believe in it or that its wrong or evil or whatever or useless
you have to ask yourself what is the central message you believe? what are your reasons to believe?
does this section support this section or are they in opposition with each other? does this part even make sense?
a lot of the bible has been shaped into a message of control
that doesn't diminish the good parts is what i'm trying to say
if the the bible fills you with hope, charity, love, goodness, etc
then by all means keep has a SYMBOL of that in your heart
but never go full dogmatic
the ra material never claims to be the end al be all
the truths of the bible are compatible, the falsehoods are not
Christianity in its current form is a mockery of everything Jesus stood for
What did Jesus actually teach? not what others said about him or claimed he said
what did he actually say in the bible? a lot of it is metaphors and mysteries meant to be uncovered through personal spiritual work
YOU are meant to do the work and innerstanding
Jesus wanted us to be free and for us to open our hearts to love
cont.
at this level
there's the appearance of good and evil(duality)
are most Christians actually following what there bible tells them to do? no
but that doesn't meant YOU can't either
the central message of the ra material is
We're all one, everything is one, love everyone, be in unity
same shit Jesus was saying
no here's where the current issues stems from
the bible is a mixed message
we can all see how the god in the bible is schizo and doesn't make sense
why?
ra material goes into this:
>18.23 Questioner: Well, was Yahweh then of the Confederation?
confederation is the metaphysical guardians of this sector in a way
completely higher dimensional, unified, long past concepts of good/evil
>Ra: I am Ra. Yahweh was of the Confederation but was mistaken in its attempts to aid.
yahweh came down to help early man and others
but no being
even higher dimensional beings are PERFECT or INFALLIBLE
as above, so below
all is one
if you have flaws? why wouldn't other beings?
EVERYONE is learning
even Ra
>18.24 Questioner: Then Yahweh’s communications did not help or did not create what Yahweh wished for them to create. Is this correct?
>Ra: I am Ra. The results of this interaction were quite mixed. Where the entities were of a vibrational sum characteristic which embraced oneness, the manipulations of Yahweh were very useful. Wherein the entities of free will had chosen a less positively oriented configuration of sum total vibratory complex, those of the Orion group were able for the first time to make serious inroads upon the consciousness of the planetary complex.
the message that was given had the potential to be interpreted in multiple ways, like any message
if the people reading were good, they used it for good
if the people were bad, Orion empire(negatives) were able to use it as a tool to opress and manipulate, much like modern day?
cont.
so yahweh comes down
delivers some knowledge
humans use their free will to inner or understand it
'Thought shall not kill" but "god said kill these heathens" <- manipulation
humans are learning and naive in ways
easy to control by evil forces who can convince to give up our godly rights and free will
ok why is the bible mixed?
>so yahweh comes down
>delivers some knowledge
>humans use their free will to inner or understand it
>yahweh doens't do a perfect job, but does its best
>yahweh leaves
>time goes by
>evil forces pop up
>assume the name of yahweh
>do some stuff to amaze them, thunder, clouds n shit
>early humans fall for it
>they get a new message of oppression and murdering and all of that control, elite us vs them shit
>now we have the modern day bible
longstory short
there's nothing wrong with being a christian or believing in the bible
but you have to user your personal discernment
and not fall for obvious traps and manipulation
imo theres tons of knowledge in the bible but also tons of bs
>like humans not being the center of the universe
you have to think
why would this ever be the case?
we aren't even the center of our planet
it is a infinite universe
humans have made contact multiple times with others, but its suppressed by tptb or hand waved by materialists(ItS jUst a SimUltIon bRo)
>why can't we see other beings?
we are 3rd density
anything higher than that is shielded from us so as not to violate our free will
we come here intentionally to not KNOW
but to SEEK
a "veil" is placed
so that the choices we make here are REAL
if you know all the answers, did the choice actually matter??
however you can pierce past this
once you believe and act accordingly
>life on other planets
theres an almost infinite amount of planets
of course theres life
of course they would never tell you unless they could use that info to control you
the minute this is revealed how many of their control structures no longer matter?
also once again we're shielded from any anything higher
BUT other 3rd dimensional ayy lmaos are allowed to visit
Thanks friend. Is the dualism inherent in Christianity (there's God, and then there's me) a human perturbation or a result of orion manipulation, do you know? Also, what do you think of Eastern mystical traditions that speak of non-dualism, is this in sync with the law of one. Does Ra comment anywhere on the use of psychedelics and the mystical/non-dual experiences associated with them (I know he mentioned LSD once in the first book, and the ability it gives you to interact with other energy fields or smthing?)
>Thanks friend. Is the dualism inherent in Christianity (there's God, and then there's me) a human perturbation or a result of orion manipulation, do you know?
> Also, what do you think of Eastern mystical traditions that speak of non-dualism, is this in sync with the law of one.
>Does Ra comment anywhere on the use of psychedelics and the mystical/non-dual experiences associated with them (I know he mentioned LSD once in the first book, and the ability it gives you to interact with other energy fields or smthing?)
>https://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=lsd
its all in reference to lsd
but they all work the same more or less
I'll break it down
>The difficulty of this particular substance is that there is, shall we say, a very dramatic drop-off of the effect of this substance.
>In each case this instrument began the session with the distortion towards extreme vital energy which this substance produces.
everything is energy and vibration or light or light/love
lsd and other psychs are like a video game buff or potion
they temporarily boost your own vibrational energetic state
you "go all out" or go "super saiyan" lol
you ascend past 3rd density and peak into higher realms
this can help you contact other beings
but the effect is temporary and heavily drains your energy afterwards
the kicker is, you can attain all of that while sober
but it takes work and dedication and time
lsd is good for turning non believers into believers or getting a quick boost
but imo its hard to pull down concrete info in that state
>weed
>There are substances ingested which do not aid the individual in the service it has chosen, this being that which you would call the marijuana. This is due to the distortion towards chemical lapses within the mind complex causing lack of synaptic continuity. This is a chemical reaction of short duration.
I basically got confirmation on this myself
humans are currently on the 4th density, keep up with the times
are you one of the we're 4th going into 5th people or do you mean we were 3rd and are currently 4th?
if the latter, then yeah
I think that we are at minimum transitioning into 4th or at least in the early stages of 4th
according to the ra material
there are people being born with 3/4th bodies
4th density earth exists and is wating for us to catch up
and "global warming" us caused by this transition not going smoothly due to negativity on the planet
>we do be ascending fr fr no cap
We are all 4th density or higher, the majority of humans are in simulated 3rd density or in other words not getting the benefits of 4th density. Every density is a spectrum, as an example if you go to the 5th you don't automatically start being timeless since that requires a high level of mastery and even then not relevant to the human theme.
This timeline split from others decades after the book was channeled so RA couldn't have told us.
The Earth is in 5th density now.
I have experienced going above 5th density when enjoying the illusion of helping others, my ego-mind never fully understood what was happening during those times.
>synaptic continuity
what does this mean?
>LSD allows you to ascend to higher densities
so third density beings can ascend to higher densities with drugs or meditation while their physical body is still incarnate?
continuity
>what does this mean?
your brain firing
your neurons
weed makes you forgetful and unable to focus because your synapses misfire or get interrupted
its like the other day I was ............going to.........uh what was I.......... saying
>>LSD allows you to ascend to higher densities
>so third density beings can ascend to higher densities with drugs or meditation while their physical body is still incarnate?
temporarily with drugs
your body is still here
your mind and spirit go elsewhere
this happens when you sleep as well
think of it as a preview
but I would think its a preview from a 3rd density lenses
so not 1:1 or exact
meditation will take you there in a more permanent sense
you start to unlock your chakras and gain insight into higher realms
you get a chance to truly ascend after death of your physical body
i believe a master could end their physical incarnation at will and move on at will - my2c
ah i get what you're saying
I agree it is a spectrum
and we exist at all levels at one, as there is only one level
>The Earth is in 5th density now.
what some call 4th, others call 5th, etc
at the end of the day ounting and tracking is pointless
its all about "being" lmao
>I have experienced going above 5th density when enjoying the illusion of helping others
I have experienced going above 5th density when enjoying the illusion of helping others, my ego-mind never fully understood what was happening during those times.
yeah apparently helping others is the key to opening the heart chakras which is the key to the higher realms/existences
interesting stuff tbh
>never understood
yeah its a mind trip
and I don't think we're supposed to understand or at least thats what I've been told
I don't think we'll fully understand until we're fully in it, if that makes sense
>what some call 4th, others call 5th
And some mix in spatial dimensions and time because humans are dense. I use the definitions RA gave.
Look into recently channelled work since after 80s a lot has happened.
>yeah apparently helping others is the key to opening the heart chakras
Initially this happened with forgiveness and love practices when sitting at home alone. Nothing specific caused the further openings but I know these can be done without helping others, instead great effort and dedication is usually needed tho.
>I don't think we'll fully understand until we're fully in it, if that makes sense
It's very strange and hard to describe. The ego-mind steps aside while feeling like it's fully conscious but afterwards it can see how it didn't know much.
First I get to enjoy helping others with great love and bliss, later (next morning) going "holy frick I was enlightened for a while" rushing to perform full autopsy of those moments. I have heard other saying the same.
>Initially this happened with forgiveness and love practices when sitting at home alone
a very hard thing to do imo
props
>It's very strange and hard to describe
a very enlightening experience lol
can't really compare it to anything which is wild
>Look into recently channelled work since after 80s a lot has happened.
can't say I trust too many other "channelled" works
too many larps
but if you have any links/names to share I'll check it out
is there anything you think they didnt cover?
between 1972-2019 alone is 8,000 pages
not including other material and 2020+
thats like 3x lifetimes worth of material alone
>john dee
lol
I'm not talking Q'uo and all the stuff after all the drama fractured the original team. ra dialogues are an absolute mess. Plenty of gold there, if you like digging through people's journals (which I do). In serious need of several phases of editing.
>dee
dude was top of his game, inherited a thousand year channeling tradition, was the foundation stone of the greatest empire in known history, and knew how to compile information. laugh if you want, I've found the work to be highly beneficial over the last year and in many ways more compelling than law of one. A lot more challenging to accept and work with, but totally worth it imo. A lot higher barrier to entry though, so much room for personal judgements and personally catalyzing it keeps it more niche than even law of one. Not for everyone, I mean, diff strokes diff folks. Makes sense for me, maybe not anyone else:
>raised fundamental christian
>I don't really care about spirituality
>go through taoism, zen, etc. for 10 years
>okay, I can find peace wherever I am. yay concentration.
>go through Ra stuff 1-2 years
>realize the nature of victim-consciousness and holy crap vibration, what?
>go through ACIM 1-2 years
>sort through different behaviors and become more actually accepting and forgiving, instead of just thinking about it abstractly like with law of one
>go through enochian stuff for the last year or two
>holy shit life is awesome and it all fits together and my personal, financial, and social situations are actually working, instead of just sources of stress.
say what you want, I've found these all pretty useful in their own rights.
>diff strokes diff folks. Makes sense for me, maybe not anyone else
sounds like its working for you
thats what matters in the end
not laughting at you, just john dee
whatever works!
>but having a functioning life in society and helping the collective through sincere efforts to improve life on earth
you're not wrong and I agree with your main points for the most part
but imo theres a difference between helping others and helping society
society as a whole is clearly sick and needs to be taken out back
helping others have a functional life and outlook, etc is fine in my books
if it was as easy as "just function in society" we wouldn't be here having this conversation
my issue is if you get over invested and fall for the society narrative you're actively setting yourself up for failure imo
>Everything serves the whole
yep, there is no "true" failure
so yeah, all is well :l
>And you can make a vibrant life bump along the way of ascending your consciousness
yep thats my struggle atm
I understand that you don't have to be a hobo monk
but I don't want to play the sick game either
but I want things the game offers
still learning
>RA can instantly download a full human life, digest and view it with million perspectives.
you're right
I see what you're trying to say
but its gotta be a hard thing to do even still
to explain such high concepts at a human level as a non human and higher being
but yes they did choice what to say, how it was said, what they got into etc
they're no a robot, which I appreciate in a way
also not that anon from the last quote
> that there is a separation
separation is illusion
>so why expect Ra to provide any practically useful input on a personal level
thats where your personal guides and higher self come in
why should they be responsible for your actions?
if they say "go down here" and you get robbed
now they're responsible
i dont see the issue
you have free will,they respect that
>Thanks friend. Is the dualism inherent in Christianity (there's God, and then there's me) a human perturbation or a result of orion manipulation, do you know?
little bit of a, little bit of b
as you can see everything at this level is seeped in duality
they talk about this in the first few but extremely dense pages of the LoO book
its basically setup this way so we can experience and have values to judge and measures to way
but eventually we are supposed to reconnect with inherent and fundamental UNITY of the UNIverse, one verse, one song, one thought
orion manipulations
orion(a small part of the universe) are people in opposition to unity at various levels/dimensions
they will use mind/thought control, elite philosophy(you will eat ze bugs), etc
to reinforce their own beliefs of division
duality is fundamental concept at this level
but is not the end all be all
its not inherently evil
but it is an illusion
an illusion of seperation
if you want to ascend and get your godly powers
you have to look past that illusion
Jesus hung out with the "dirt" of society
because he saw all as one
treat others as you want to be treated
because you ARE those others
easier said than innerstood
its a life long journey
eventually we will make it
christianity is at its core a process of salvation/realization of unity-consciousness through recognition of self in other. duality of the teachings comes from the nature of communication and levels of understanding available. what differentiates teachings of christ and law of one is solely cosmogony. Law of one describes reality as a vehicle for ascension of consciousness in a very clear way (densities, balancing love and wisdom, etc.) It's important to understand that ra is a fifth density social memory complex, talking to a fourth density social memory complex, itself comprised of a few mid-third density individuals who collectively have stepped up their vibration during communication. this is a bit different perspective than jesus, as a fourth density individual talking to upper second and third density individuals, then propagated across the collective to upraise the consciousness of humanity from upper second to upper third. the nature of the communication is completely different, what's being said is the same. that's why it's smart to not just treat law of one or the bible as the Bible, the Arbiter of Truth, or to worship either.
>orion group
you can always infer external agency. but you will fall into trap: it doesn't actually matter if it's an external agent or whatever else, what matters is how you approach your interactions and yourself, because finding someone or something to blame means you're looking for separation. Which as a method is fine, if done from a higher perspective, but in practice that's rarely the case.
Try channeling ra and christ and whatever else yourself, instead of just reading about it. you have the theory. practice and apply. see what's nonsense (most of it is), and see what resonates. this is what ra is trying to get you to do anyways.
>humans fourth density
no looking back.
oh and as for psychedelics, the channel did some LSD and iirc Ra mentioned that she's going to have some recovering to do for a few months.
yeah Ra is legit. I haven't gone and tried to connect with Ra for awhile, other entities are a bit more resonant right now, but the bridge never goes away. Ra is good to help understand the nature of consciousness itself. Not so useful in attaining any level of mastery over my personal situation, outside of the whole concept of catalyst, how it reflects in your circumstances, attracting certain experiences into your field, and how you can actively work with catalyst in productive manners. Which was pretty crucial at the time and is a huge boost to one's conscious awareness, but also a pretty simple lesson and once you get it you got it. But yeah personal mastery of situations, circumstances, and events? Did not find Ra useful after a certain stage, which makes sense, because it's an alien consciousness, I mean, wtf do they know about developing skillsets to be more effective in your chosen calling and sorting out family dynamics and all that? I think if you want to be successful on earth you need to look farther and use things that are relevant.
how did your communication with Ra work? how did you know it was Ra?
you can validate identity through metaphysical communication in a variety of ways. ceremonial rituals, high magic, lots of methods. You could go grimoiric route and do sacred godnames, you could do sacred geometry visualizations, you could do "ask who are you 3x and compel honest response." You could do automatic writing, you could do special spiritual handshake. intent is most important. Ask a personally relevant guide via meditation, prayer, or ritual and stick with a method until you get it.
>mastery of third-density circumstances is a low bar
philosophically speaking, sure, but why make value judgements in that way? Everything serves the whole. And you can make a vibrant life bump along the way of ascending your consciousness, at the same time. No need to denigrate or look down on the animals, they're doing their thing and it's awesome. Fundamentals are more important than anything else. Every time I've had an issue with my path it's because my fundamentals were shit. It's like that with everyone, almost every time I've seen someone having issues, it's because their fundamentals were shit. spiritual bros hate to admit it, but having a functioning life in society and helping the collective through sincere efforts to improve life on earth in a purely material sense is just as valid as meditating in a closet.
>it's an alien consciousness, I mean, wtf do they know about developing skillsets to be more effective in your chosen calling and sorting out family dynamics and all that? I think if you want to be successful on earth you need to look farther and use things that are relevant.
I don't think those are earth specific things though
I'm pretty sure every being goes through those stages at one time or another
its not 1:1 but I'm sure they had families and jobs n shit
they did say they were more "harmonious" if anything
but they're weren't 6th from the start
everyone has to work their way up
recently Q'uo
which is combination of Hatonn, Latwii., and Ra
spoke on all of those subjects
But as you said the Ra being can only offer 6th level perspectives I guess at this point
which IS a bit far removed 🙁
>successful on earth
imo the stuff they taught as how to be successful in the bigger picture of life regardless of planet, density or form
earth success is get a job and have kids, be another cog
a very low bar imo
Yes my limited experiences match with this.
>because it's an alien consciousness, I mean, wtf do they know about developing skillsets to be more effective in your chosen calling and sorting out family dynamics and all that?
RA can instantly download a full human life, digest and view it with million perspectives. They say it's so-so if doing this can be said to take any effort. RA knows but chooses not to, they are eager to ascend so taking any extra responsibility is an unnecessary hinderance. If you would give no credit to what RA says then they could talk freely, but we have to see them as masters in the know don't we.
Also they have free access to infinite intelligence. Just as btw.
>But as you said the Ra being can only offer 6th level perspectives I guess at this point
Don't believe the humble fricks. RA chooses to offer views that they have fully integrated no matter how much more they know. I see advanced human teachers do this too.
>I'm not at that level so I can't comment, but I experience it daily and have studied it for years
Yesterday I was guided not to teach what I identify as because how I see myself is not fully integrated. While my knowledge is good the energetic side is lacking something.
>ra as a means of helping in a practical sense
yeah, that's what's funny about ra. Ra is explicit about avoiding any further ownership, so why expect Ra to provide any practically useful input on a personal level, other than just raw information? They would be constrained, which they've already said they're working on getting rid of. That's why I ultimately moved on from Ra and any let's say <6th density for inputs, they're on their own program and don't care about me and my path except insofar as it aids their service. I'm not really in the place to want to be bothering people for gas at the gas station, I have my own bank account and can pay for my own gas without infringing on others wallets. There are plenty more entities out there who exist solely to serve at whatever capacity is desired, and which don't incur karmic debt for getting personally involved. if I'm supposed to actually be conscious and aware and employ agency in service to the whole, then I should actually do that and use the right tools for the right job/
Who are your go to? I staid with my soul for couple years and after that the main figures have been Michael, Christ and ayy friend, the stain of christianity took a while to remove.
I have channeled couple hundred different spirits and hundreds of higher selves in a few years, this is counting single sentence contacts.
>don't care about me and my path except insofar as it aids their service.
I can't resist commenting and maybe you know this. If you could fully feel their love for you the physical body would fry, you would literally (lit.) die.
>Who are your go to?
Depends. When in severe distress (omg gf broke up with me and now I'm alone in a foreign country and holy crap I'm physically injured wtf is going on, etc) it's straight-line to the highest no need for intermediaries, I just want peace. When doing daily alignment work it's the big archangels. Uriel, Raphael, Michael, Gabriel, metatron, Sandalphon, Tzadkiel, Iophiel, Tzaphkiel, Haniel, etc. When desiring counsel, wisdom, or understanding, Jesus is great. When doing work to influence my circumstances, toss up between planetary energies or angelic work. When seeking specific knowledge, the allatori are great, or other spirits, and then clarity comes in many forms shortly after. For personal empowerment and alignment, for wealth, or whatever else, I'm finding enochian angels (elemental watchtowers, celestial Heptarchy, zodiacal aethyrs) to be of most service, but wouldn't suggest any of the above to anyone but myself. When meditating it's rapid dissolution of all symbols and non-realization, because the whole spiritual game with all these entities is false and empty and actually does nothing, and none of this is actually happening and I seem to like to experientially remind myself of this sometimes, and then it's back to playing human game. Ra, Quo, etc. are great teachers, but not trusted peers and aids. More like short stories than a calculator I'm going to use for hw.
And as for their love, that's a great point. I'd like to say it's matched in kind to the fullest extent available, but it's just not very relevant, because I am already fulfilled. I don't mean to disparage or denigrate these entities or their service. Upon consideration it's more that my own resonance at this time is guiding me along a slightly more personally tailored and individuated expression than can be provided by others, and they exist solely to assist me as all. That's how the seesaw of service to self / others is going right now, and will shift again over time.
as well as good,evil, and mixed
higher beings are allowed to make nonphysical contact
IF you use your free will to call them
they can not or choose not to
land in mass, as many people are using their free will to NOT believe, and thus that would be a violation
we're under quarantine according to Ra Material
>why?
because ayy lmaos/higher beings
from Orion to Yahweh to Ra themselves
attempted to help us many times in the past
but it always goes left
they either get worshiped or the message gets distorted
and we can see the modern ramifications of that today
so now they use a hands off approach that respects free will
>Jesus not being the one and only way to "salvation", etc etc.
don't quote me but jesus says many things
people pick and choose the parts they want
Jesus gave us a direct line to spiritual ascension
"Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father."
what does this mean?
believing in Jesus does not mean worshiping Jesus
Jesus preached oneness and unity with creation
if you believe in Jesus, you believe in his MESSAGE of love,hope,unity,oneness
that is the key to the kingdom
that is what allows you to do miracles and greater works
>who was Jesus?
https://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=Jesus
long story short
Jesus was a 4th dimensional being
who came down to 3rd
to spread a message of oneness
like any being that steps down, they are "veiled"
and lose access to direct higher stuff
but through training and learning Jesus re-found his connection, accessed his direct Universe given powers
and fulfilled his mission
showing that all is one
at the same time
Jesus was a normal ass human being of that era
had to eat,shit, frick, etc
so its all within the context of that time period to a degree
but the message is timeless
you are as much a divine being as human being
all is one
love each other
live in unity
then Jesus died and moved on 3->4th->5th
So begins Don's descent into paranoia. He was still aware of himself enough to watch it happening but he displayed classic paranoid delusions. He thought that the FBI was investigating him for selling drugs. He thought that their house was bugged. He lost a lot of weight. And this is when he began to have doubts about Carla and Jim, and felt like Carla might leave him for Jim. This was exacerbated by the fact that Don was inconsolable a lot of the time and refused to leave the house, so activities that the three of them did together became just Jim and Carla. Carla however never stopped loving Don first, but so is the nature of paranoid delusions.
At one point Don was put in an institution for 5 weeks, but his experiences were awful as you can imagine. The primary doctor was on vacation for most of that time so Don was essentially in mental health care limbo. However, after this he got a little bit better, had less paranoid delusions, he gained weight. But this was short lived and eventually he began to deteriorate again. In the last few weeks of his life, he knew he was a danger to himself, and he even got rid of all of his guns. However, he still spoke seriously about killing himself, and only weighed 140lbs at 6'6", so Jim and Carla made a difficult decision, believing that their friend was on the brink of death one way or another: They got a mental inquest warrant. This is when you go to court and say that a person is a danger to themselves and get them committed against their will. They sincerely believed it was their only hope.
The problem is that armed police officers arrived to take Don away. Don was convinced that he would die in a mental hospital if he were committed, and desperately did not want to go. He had one gun remaining in his possession, hidden, which he went and got, put to his head, and held himself hostage, begging them to leave him in his home. The escalation with the gun created a situation where 39 police officers showed up and they had a stand off. Carla tried to calm Don down but the cops dragged her out of the house. They waited at a neighbor's and Carla tried talking to Don on the phone, but the cops stopped her from doing that because she wouldn't lie to him. So they would not let Carla attempt to de-escalate the situation and - as cops are prone to do - they continued to escalate the situation.
Don was desperately clinging to his life and during the 5+ hour stand off, on a cold November night in Kentucky, he gathered up all the warm overclothes in the house and brought them outside for the cops who were waiting for him. Eventually, though, the cops got impatient and finally fired 17 tear gas cannisters through the windows of Don's home. Don knew this was the end and he took his one last opportunity to exercise his own free will over his life and went out the back door, pulled the trigger and shot himself through the temple, killing himself.
I have channeled RA, it was nice to find out that the collective can speak without being so technical and the questions don't have to be so exact.
Don's death is the classic story that we know all too well in our current paradigm: Untrained police force being used to handle someone who is mentally ill, instead of real treatment for those who are suffering from delusions. Don did not want to die and was willing to do anything to stop that outcome from happening, except for being institutionalized, which he had already suffered through once. The cops saw a man with a gun and used overwhelming force to subdue this man, instead of seeing someone who was mentally ill and needed help. People absolutely can recover from the type of situation that Don was in, with real psychological help, but this wasn't offered or readily available in 1984. Instead a suicidal man was attacked by over 3 dozen officers and backed into a corner which forced his hand.
>https://old.reddit.com/r/lawofone/comments/jp7knq/regarding_the_deathsuicide_of_don_elkins/
> Also, what do you think of Eastern mystical traditions that speak of non-dualism, is this in sync with the law of one.
a lot of their teachings are closer to the real truths than others
but like any they get distorted over time
is always a mixed bag imo
take what resonates, drop the rest
key sites/info
>main site + people
>still channeling
llresearch.org
>amazing index site
lawofone.info
>LL Research Transcripts (1972-2019)
https://files.catbox.moe/v1p8f1.pdf
some of this stuff is dated
obvs the world didnt end
but its from when they first started
contains contacts with other beings besides Ra
which is interesting
they all have different personalities which is cool
Mind you these beings are group minds made up of millions of individual souls all unified into one being
These books started me on my whole path I’m on now. I will treasure them forever. Adonai.
it's the real deal, not much more to it.
what energy centers are holding you back in their knotting from exploding into tang ?
>what energy centers are holding you back in their knotting from exploding into tang ?
please restate
what is exactly keeping you or me for that matter from melting back right here and right now into a ceaseless ecstatic state of bliss with a direct conduit to the orgasmic impetus of the universe itself?
because it's possible and really the birthright of all beings
what's the hangup?
it's what we should all be asking ourselves and working on. recognize suffering and act thereupon. this stuff is very in line with gautama btw.
>what is exactly keeping you or me for that matter from melting back right here and right now into a ceaseless ecstatic state of bliss with a direct conduit to the orgasmic impetus of the universe itself?
god wanting to explore himself thereby creating finite perspectives of himself?
https://www.youtube.com/user/TWSMandelker
plugging this guy btw, great great material around the ra contact in the way of supplemental stuff or even following along in a more extended format.
yeah but it can be seen through is the thing and why not endeavor to when that's known? i'm pretty sick and tired of illusory inflection on the whole, struggle, etcetera, that which gets in the way of contentedness and the roots of mind which give rise to it. needs moar acetylene torch autolysis, assuredly.
i came in here with a congenital nerve sheathe tumor along my right auditory nerve so maybe any full cleansing in this life wasn't really what's on order but it's good to get really, really, really real about suffering
since you dropped a yt channel, here's one I've been watching
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl4nmBxv3CyQja8b2QWzk6g
cheers fren, wagmi <3
Isn't it better to recognize that there is a separation, and to subsequently release it, than it is to try and precisely define what it is that is causing the separation? Mind can't look at itself. Leave the thoughtstream through effortless recognition of what already is the case. Don't get hung up trying to intellectualize it, you just get trapped trying to convince yourself of what you already know is the case.
understanding can fast catalyze acceptance and i don't find myself too bogged down in trying to intellectualize much of anything to be honest uwu
my big impediment is accepting the patently disgusting and debased state of earth humanity being in such close apparent proximity to it without wishing even further suffering upon it in the name of forcing it to wake up to its agony. it's grace, after all. suffering evokes movement away from itself. it's only ever a question of its quantity being insufficient or it going unrecognized to some extent.
i really do think this species would be better off dead on the whole to the last but there's obviously big and interesting stageplay at hand in need of exploration <3
death is birth
heart, root, maybe throat :l
Austin
Yeah, on a different topic. I would like to ask about the idea that the information that you share, and that we provide on the internet, generally falls within the realm of—let me reword that.
People typically find it through a means of researching conspiracy theories, and there’s a path to finding the Law of One and the other channeled material by first discovering conspiracy and then finding the channeled material. And sometimes people sort of fall away from the conspiracy aspect, but I wanted to ask what the role of conspiracy theories, and that path of first finding conspiracy, and then finding the spiritual information, what the dynamic is there, and what the proper role of the conspiracy theories are in the heart of spiritual evolution.
new speakerQ’uo
I am Q’uo, and am aware of your query, my brother. The so-called conspiracy theories are, for many entities, as you have mentioned: a beginning movement away from the generally accepted explanation of the nature of reality, for that which is hidden is known within the inner being to be of a spiritual nature ultimately for each individual. Thus, this subconscious knowing of the need to seek that which is hidden within the self oftentimes begins with seeking that which is hidden in the outer reality, there being an inner sense that the hidden quality is of importance to the individual mind/body/spirit complex.
However, when this path of seeking to know more about the hidden qualities of the so-called planetary game, or conspiracy theories, as to how this game is played, is pursued long enough by an entity which is enough interested in riddles and puzzles to move beyond that which is of the conspiracy nature, eventually such an entity discovers that it does not feel fulfilled in that inner sense of craving fulfillment by knowing more and more of the conspiracy scenario—who did what to whom, and why.
When this sense of lack of fulfillment becomes strong enough, such an entity becomes more aware that there is something lacking within this hidden story—there is something there that might point the attention and the consciousness, and the expenditures of energy inward to this conspiracy buff, shall we say, for it is discovered that this sense of craving is stronger than the desire to know something that was hidden, and therefore, feel more informed than the average consumer of information within your culture.
The desire to move beyond being controlled by forces that are unseen and who have supposedly contact with entities of an extraterrestrial nature, perhaps, who are behind their machinations, causes the seeker of truth to be born in a fashion within the conscious mind and the sensitive heart of the entity who has heretofore decided that there was something more to the illusion than normally experienced, and now has decided that there is more to the illusion than conspiracies, and illuminati, and Malta, and so forth. Thus the seeker may be born as a portion of the path of seeking begins within that investigation into the planetary game.
When the seeker then discovers the spiritual journey, then all seems to fall into place, as the pieces of the puzzle are more able to be placed in the proper location within the mind/body/spirit complex of the new-born seeker of love and light. Thus, within this realm of secrecy may be sown seeds of infinity, and the seeker of truth moves forward.
Is there another query, my brother?
new speakerAustin
Yes. The realm of conspiracy theories is vast, and some of the popular conspiracy theories, if they are true, could be at the root of all suffering on the planet. So some positive seekers, after finding the spiritual heart of evolution, still care about the nature of these conspiracies and want to raise awareness. But doing so can sometimes induce fear and create distortion; it’s my understanding
that’s why the Confederation tends not to wish to speak too directly about these conspiracy theories.
Are there any suggestions that the Confederation has for those seekers who do care about these particular conspiracies, and want to raise awareness but not create more distortion and fear?
new speakerQ’uo
I am Q’uo and am aware of your query, my brother. Again, we move back to the concept of intention. Whatever action an entity undertakes with the intention of being of service to others is that action that begins to polarize the consciousness in the positive sense. Many seekers, in the best of intentions, tend, at times, to move into areas of transient information and experience. It is difficult to move clearly and concisely within the realm of illusion in which you now find yourselves, whether there is a conspiracy afoot or not.
Thus, the Confederation of Planets in the Service of the One Creator feels that it is important for entities to look first to the intention of service to others, and secondarily to look to the amelioration of the suffering that is caused by the so-called hidden hands, and hidden motives and entities. When there is a means of avoiding the difficulty of the fear being introduced, it is most necessary to then step back from the movement into that realm of experience.
We feel that this has not been as well stated as we would wish, for this instrument is beginning to tire. We shall attempt clarity.
The seeker of truth who wishes to serve those who are in need of the basic ingredients of their life experience—the ability to chose their path, the ability to live without fear, the ability to feed and clothe the family, the ability to consider the nature of the reality in which they move, the ability to seek a greater reality within all—these are the areas in which entities may, indeed, serve others with the intention to give assistance to those who require it and request it. Thus, the intention is all.
https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2018/1020#%2111=
always remember the beloved