So what the frick even is meditation? I just stand there and that's it?
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So what the frick even is meditation? I just stand there and that's it?
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This is the opposite of meditation, this is a pop example of modern-day slavery. Enjoy your choice.
For a moment, imagine, in your mind, an entirely seperate person. This person has no traits or pesronality or self of any kind, it just observes without any consideration of what it observes. Then, look at yourself and your consciousness and your mind from this being's perspective rather than yours. Then, apply this perspective to everything. Then, stop trying to observe anything at all, just -be-. Notice how thoughts emerge, or urges? Do not respond to those thoughts in any way, you return to being yourself rather than the empty observer.
Meditation is fostering and maintaining that empty state, while staving offwhatever arsies to take you away from it, while still remaining in that state in the process of doing that.
You don't actually try to actively stave of the thoughts or urges, you just observe them, as they aren't yours. Just let them happen and exist and ocurr, and then fade away without thinking of them or considering them or trying to react to them in any way.
Good way to get possessed
Boomer argument, only folks getting possessed are those who invoke illicit spirits
No, a Christcuck argument!
>Boomer
Opinion discarded due to moron internet lingo
Boomer predates the internet you child
Seconded
Yeah. I'm having a hard time with it. I don't want to sit in silence. I want distractions.
could always play some music you like in the background to focus on, helps alot when you got adhd brain
>Yeah. I'm having a hard time with it. I don't want to sit in silence. I want distractions.
This. You turn your brain and your ego OFF.
And wait for all the answers to come from inside.
All your answers are INSIDE of you .
you gotta get comfortable with silence. Be happy without distractions.
No joke, domestic and yard work is excellent if you have trouble sitting still long enough. I've an adhd poo brain and am not good at doing nothing.
Clean the floors, do the laundry, cut the grass, pick up sticks, paint the fence, etc. Best to work in silence, or with a good instrumental playlist. Throat singing is also great. Don't check the time or your phone and just do work on maintaining your spaces until you're tired and ready for a good meal and a beer. It's meditative, and gratifying for the body and mind
So if I'm taking a walk at night I'm also meditating or do I need to be in the specific position? What about lying in bed waiting for sleep?
IN the majority of meditative practices, awareness of your breath is tought.Once you get the hang of that, extend that awareness, and maintaining of rhythmic operation, unto your walking. Then, yes, you can meditate in that way. There are actually traditional methods specifically for mediating while walking, just look it up. You can also meditate while lying in bed.
Night time walking meditations are magical.
>What about lying in bed waiting for sleep?
For some people this is hard because a tired mind is restless, sleep does come fast when meditating.
A good definition for meditation: being in a higher/deeper consciousness than normally. Those who can be in trance consciously experience a totally different meditative state than who can only empty the mind or detach from it.
Thinking only a part of the time can be counted as being in a meditative state, usually happening after pure meditation. When exploring worlds or revealing shadows some thinking is helpful.
>many say that there are "many kinds of meditation"
Not really, it's a scale of depth, different depths serve different purposes. "Many kinds" comes from beginners who read guides.
>Night time walking meditations are magical.
But how do you know if you're meditating while walking or just thinking?
Are you thinking or not? Legs know how to walk without thinking, try witnessing them move on their own.
you kinda have to know yourself first before you know what to meditate tho... mediate(?)
Meditation is non attachment to external phenomena and concentration is non attachment to internal phenomena.
wait anon thank you for this, I have a way more efficient way 2 meditate for now
it's also way simpler to explain
>I just stand there and that's it?
Sure, if that's how you're comfortable.
omg doing my own research on a topic is hard im gona ask morons online instead
pretty much, yeh
>what the frick even is meditation
Awareness of yourself separate from all that you see.
backwards. you are not seperate at all
The first goal of meditation is to stop you from identifying with your mind,thoughts,body ,in short YOU.
Only then can the journey to wholeness begin. What will be whole with otherwise? The sea of chaotic thoughts or the ever changing body and world?
All of you here talk a lot of shit but don't really have any substance .
not even close
if one goes looking for a stable enduring sense of self it will never be found, if you think you've found it you've fallen into delusion
there is no such thing as separateness, only arbitrary conceptual lines drawn by the mind, and one of the aims of meditation is to reduce the activity of this line-drawinf reflex
keep sitting, you haven't even found the footprints of the bull yet
None of what you said even makes sense.
the fact that you think so is proof positive that you've barely stepped upon the path, much less traveled it even a short distance
everything I said makes perfect sense, to think otherwise is delusion
What is funny to me is that all of you (dunno how many anons you are in total) are right.
Yeah man jeets invented it, just be greatfull you don't need to cover yourself in shit.
I used to do it a little, just focusing on my breath and I could calm down and approach a half-asleep state but that was pretty much it usually. But one time a woman's voice clearly spoke my name in my ear and I instantly snapped out of it. So usually it was pretty meh except for one kind of creepy experience. I don't much care to do it anymore.
There are different kinds, but for the most straight forward, think of it this way, your mind processes thoughts and information, meditating is to stop the supply of external interference through information, and instead to simply observe those thoughts. Stop huffing in the rest of the world and just listen to yourself think.
The simplest and truest definition I have found is;
>intense focus on a single subject or item in one’s mind’s eye
that's just concentration, meditation encompasses more than simple concentration
Meditation can be less than concentration, is your mind empty or not is the question.
In my opinion the basis of the meditative state is this: Watching anything which may arise with 100% attentiveness but also at the same time not getting attached/absorbed/hypnotized by it. This "watching" and "not getting attached" are not "things you do", you are just being, you are not any of the thoughts, ideas, emotions, wants, needs, e.t.c. which may arise.
Others say that you can do literally anything meditatively and do various things while in that state, thus many say that there are "many kinds of meditation" and that if you do things in a meditative state then it's better or that it has some additional benefits.
Any good books I can read that'll teach me how to start meditating?
The Mind Illuminated
In The Buddhas Words
Five Ways to Know yourself by Shinzen Young
Jon Kabbat Zin's books are also good
Reading this thread exhausts me. It's clear that summer is near. This isn't a question that warrants a thread; use your search engine. I bet everyone here is a fricking phone poster, too.
Deliberate focus of awareness.
There are many ways to do it, for many goals.
All the Buddhists will say there is only one way, and for only the goal of losing ego.
They are wrong.
It's like a Christian saying only they can pray, and you can only pray for God to kill your enemies.
There is a free MBSR 8-week course online. It's very easy to follow and understand. Based on john k zinn. Usually these classes are expensive, this is a free alternative.
I hate meditation stuff online. It's always the same moronic words. Body scan. Serenity. It's always the same fricking gay tone of voice too. Everything about it triggers me.
basically they are trying to not be human for a bit and to be the ape their biology tells them they are
The mind illuminated
Good one.
Indeed if one meditates then he will pass through the human part of himself and get to the deeper one which is the animal part, but this is not the end for he can go pass through that too!
i thought as much, in fact i doubt there is ever any end
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There's multiple schools with multiple often conflicting methods and outcomes
Meditation is the sith lord young Palawan padqwan https://youtu.be/UJ4e4XVQQcY?si=Mggk0WLKyxx_kUD1
You can do more things with your mind than you can with your body. By controlling language, they have forced you to enter the gate through this one narrow door called "meditation".
Ignore the gate. There are no walls.
You lack convincing let me show u https://youtu.be/Hpz9gA_1oLM?si=eVNnw3hUA-UsZWkC
I know you think you are especial obi wan but you are just a padawan
Humans can’t know the ancient ways.
?si=WB2kQyrNHvNQDbHK this is the ancient ways of death
Screenshot the electricity
take a photo of your screen instead.
The goal of meditation is to separate yourself from your surroundings.
I would never kill ozma
shit poor person you are
Are you saying i cant bring the sword down and cleave your head clean off? Because i can
So what I gather from this thread is that nobody knows.
>So what is meditation? I just stand there and that's it?
You sit there and turn your brain off.
>that's it, the fck
You turn your ego also off.
i will explain it to you if you shut the frick up
I kinda expect most people even on /x/ not get it.
Here's my 2nd post above:
Interesting
I get exactly what you're saying, it's just dead wrong. meditation is not even remotely close to "turning the brain off". such a thing isn't possible to begin with.
you're like one of those neophytes who think it's about "emptying the mind" or "having no thoughts", both of which are also impossible
by all means have fun with whatever you're doing, but it ain't meditation
Trilobies
you're an idiot.
I am the smarterz mother fricker that ever levid and i will absolutely annihilate you
I live in st louis
>possible, not possible to turn brain off.
It's me again, I posted those:
The whole point of parasites on this planet - every single kind, from dark entities, to energy parasites, to bosses at work etc. - their whole point is YOUR ENERGY.
You, as a human being, have the most energy on this planet, you are the Creator. Everybody wants your energy.
And your energy is your attention , basically.
So. They want your brain to be constantly distracted with crap. And they want you to be scared all the time and be in constant time crisis and stress. Their goal is also load you with crap "authors" and "authority figures". Most of them are also crap.
Your goal is to avoid all the distractions and stress and fake authorities and false information.
And you can only do that if you stop listening to all of the distractions and start listening to what is inside of you. I.e. your true self.
hey IDIOT, how are you supposed to listen to anything if you've shut your brain off?
>not even remotely close to "turning the brain off".
Try meditating.
>"emptying the mind" or "having no thoughts", both of which are also impossible
If not then meditation isn't possible.
>You sit there and turn your brain off
nope, not even a little bit
?si=odOWuO6vTynvJU5F i am many more advanced than animals physica
It's a fake-wealthy entrepeneure thing that makes them feel like it helps them get more money.
Liar
Being locked in the here and now, refusing to delve into the past or think about the future. Breathe. Be.
It's where you try to reach hemi sync with self hypnosis and join your consciousness to God before you die and return to nothing. Good luck!
No it's the opposite of your normal reality
No nothing
Just sit there
If it doesn't work after 30 minutes you're gonna have to try 39 hrs
Feel free to sleep
Other than that
Eating and drinking
NOTHITNG
meditation turns you into a passive cuck you should pray instead
praying turns you into a homosexual on your knees worshiping
Observe projection in wordy action >
Silent prayers are great, mindlessly repeat a prayer having no room for other mind activity.
You guys should meditate on how to explain this shit better because you all are terrible at getting your point across. It probably makes perfect sense in your head but the way you are conveying it is very confusing.
>very confusing
Are you knew hear? XD
Meditation is not something you really do, it's a state of your consciousness and it may even take years to get into and even then you may lose it if you don't train it often.
It's something you can describe with many terms, the best I can personally do is to tell you to take a step back from everything: your thoughts, your emotions, your life, your relationships with others, your needs, everything, just try and take a step back in the sense that nothing which you have ever known is that important, it's all a show and you are the observer of it.
There have been many meditation threads in the past on /x/, you can check them on 4plebs.
In my opinion
is the best description.
Jesus fricking Christ... that is some Deepak Chopra tier word salad diarrhea. Frick that guy and frick you too.
Meditation is simply the focusing of your attention on one object of meditation for a prolonged period of time. There's variations on how one does it, what one focuses on, and for how long they do it - but meditation is simply the focus of your attention on one thing. Don't overthink it.
>word salad diarrhea
Not at all.
Meditation is not giving into anything which wants your attention.
Thus it's what you described perfectly; it's the focus of your attention on what you choose to focus on.
You can focus on a very specific point like an object or you can focus on a wider point like the whole experience of the existence that you are living.
>step 1. get comfortable
>step 2. clear mind
>step 3. acknowledge mental chatter as just that
congrats, you're now meditating
No he's got a point. Y'all are over here talking about meditation like it's one overall practice. For example, meditation in most eastern traditions is not about clearing the mind but the exact opposite. Instead you fill it. You concentrate on something (usually the breath) so hard that it takes up all of your awareness.
In occult traditions there's a form of meditation where you stare at an object and instead of disregarding your minds thoughts as chatter you place much more emphasis on them to the point where it's the main reason for the meditation.
You got Daoist meditations where your moving around energy, and shamanistic meditations where you are going on spiritual journeys.
He said make it simple, I made it simple.
>teach me how to fight
>let's start with how to punch
Videos on Meditation and being present:
It is the non-action in a world of action. The only thing that doesn't belong. It serves as a bridge between the lower realms and divinity (which are of course one, but you can't see it from below).
what if meditation broke your brain
https://hollyelmore.substack.com/p/i-believed-the-hype-and-did-mindfulness-meditation-for-dumb-reasons-now-im-trying-to-reverse-the-damage
Most of your thoughts are not your own, they are caused by reactions to a wide variety of things as you travel through spacetime. The thoughts that are truly your own are those that you will into existence independently of cause and effect. The most simple form of this would be a mantra like "I AM" that you repeat in your head every time a thought that is not invoked by will appears. With practice you begin to see a clear distinction between this higher self that can will things into existence, and the lower self that is stuck reacting to cause and effect.