How are people hypnotized into doing stupid shit? There's no way this would work on me yet it works on other people? Is it all really just staged?
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So hypnotism is fake right?
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>So hypnotism is fake right?
Wrong.
>starting a thread with a false premise
what did he mean by this
You can't compare cia mind control to a hypnotist who jiggles a pendulum and makes act like a chicken which I always thought had to be bullshit.
Reacd how Rachmaninoffs depression was cured
I mean read
Hypnotists can’t make anyone do what they don’t want to do, it is an esoteric form of persuasion and propaganda.
So basically it's bullshit since you could not make me act like a chicken with simple persuasion.
I thought this anon, then i saw it done to a coworker at a function (literally acting like a chicken or whatever the hypnotist wanted). I asked him about it a week later on nightshift, i assumed he just had played along but he was visibly upset that i even brought the topic up, said he couldn't remember most of it and didn't feel in control. He walked off the job a few weeks after and i lost contact with him.
Okay how is this accomplished? Like they aren't cia brainwashers so how do they do it? Somebody can't just persuade you into doing something especially something terrible or disgusting.
Read William Walker Atkinson.
Its not simple persuasion. A hypnotist would have to put you in a very relaxed hypnagogic state. Basically put you very near sleep, and then you could act like a chicken.
I have been really sleepy and even then you could not persuade me to do shit. There has to be more to it no?
Not really sleepy, but literally you would need to sleep for it to work. Im not really sure if theres a difference between hypnotic state and dream state tho. You know its kinda like you can talk to someone in their sleep, or make them turn off the tv open the door or w/e and they wont remember anything? Its something like that
Not “simple persuasion” but almost everyone can be manipulated to almost anything, though some are more susceptible.
Higlhy doubt this. You are saying that you could be manipulated into doing something just like that? Including horrible or depraved acts? Without drugs this is impossible.
Most things drugs can do to the mind, the mind is capable of doing to the mind.
Darren Brown said he would never try to hypnotize anyone who wasn't open to it because it wouldn't work. The person believing they're hypnotized makes them open to the persuasion and suggestions.
I fell asleep listening to a hypnosis video once. It was supposed to be a motivational one. Started having really bad anxiety after and loss of confidence, etc. Probably was unrelated, but I kind of wondered.
yes but the same way that placebo effects work. people who haven't understood their power need an "external" source
also to any cia Black folk reading this: kys
Actually, that’s wrong.
It’s easier if the subject is willing.
But hypnotists cannot make someone do that which the hypnotizer doesn’t know how to do.
There are a few ways which you can put someone into a suggestable state. It's really a lot easier than you'd think. You should generally avoid stressors that would put your subject into an alert state. The best quality to aim for is dreamlike. It's much easier of course with a willing participant but you can induce hypnogogic states while the subject is relaxed and unaware of your interference. As to the subject of stressors, you can cause a state of fear or panic in a person either through verbal reasoning (talking them into a state of fear), or through visual or audio cues (showing them pictures while in an induced trance or playing noises.).
A suggestable person can be induced to do things within reason. However, with an induced state of constant paranoia you can stretch the limits of what is considered reasonable. I do not wish to share any of my techniques with this board due to the ethical and moral implications of the subject. Needless to say, you can probably find some info on mkultra type programming which is similar to what I've researched.
Cmon man. Dont be a douche, if didnt want to spill your techs, you should not have mention them. Now you look like an butthole.
I mean unless they involve drugs
Some people are more susceptible to it than others
There's this thing called the 'critical response' (or something) where when you think of something your ego kicks in and evaluates whether you should act on it based on your beliefs and if it will harm or help you
Hypnosis bypasses this response and the ego which makes you more suggestible to do anything
And yes you can end up doing anything
Derren Brown proved it on his show when he made someone mock assassinate someone
You also go into different brain wave states
The main driving force behind hypnotism 'working' is that it makes the hypnotized feel a sense of bliss during induction, which allows the embedded command to be followed. IF you find someone suggestable enough, you can flood their dopamine receptors through various stimulations, e.g. touch, visual cues, or audio cues. It's basic manipulation of neurolinguistic pathways, feel-good chemicals, and willingness on the receiving end.
>99% of the population has already been hypnotized/brainwashed btw
>no you are not immune
>a lot of these things are staged, a lot aren't
>learning to find willing (consciously willing or not) subjects is the hardest part of hypnosis
>but only for very specific forms of induction
>complete induction is not necessary, repeated bombardment of the senses also works
Thats where youre wrong kid. I hypnotised myself years ago to be immune to hypnotism.
That only makes you more susceptible and unware when you're under attack, unless you did it right.
Im behind 7 protection servitors
Why larp when you could have something valuable to say? I mean you have nothing valuable to say because you're lazy and haven't actually done any research or work but there's no need to be a gay about it like everyone else on this godforsaken board.
This is the gist of it. That line about "not being able to make someone do something they don't want" doesn't include the fact that you can change what they want through linking strong values and emotions and conflating them together. Induction isn't even necessary, at least not overtly.
ever wonder why newsreaders / journalists all sound the same and speak weirdly?
they are literally hypnotizing everyone with neural linguistic programming
Kinda. Guided larp but don’t play
With memories can actually make fakes false by accident
Wait a second, I'm just being gaslit into thinking I owe people stuff!
hypnotic states are real, stage hypnotism is fake. post hypnotic suggestion works because it essential by bypasses the area of the brain that controls Social inhibition.
never tried it so Idrk but I've always been skeptical of it
in high school there was a performance by a stage hypnotist. he called a bunch of randoms up from the audience, i was one of them. he tried to get us all to do dumb shit and whenever one of us didn't obey, he'd just kick us off the stage one by one until it was just a bunch of dumb socialites left up there, giggling away the whole time and obviously faking being hypnotized just to get some attention. it was so fricking stupid.
I don't think the stage hypnotism thing is real at all, but hypnotherapy, while controversial, has actually helped people with their problems. My grandfather was actually a widely respected hypnotherapist specialized in treating addiction through suggestion therapy, and apparently very succesfully at that
Stage hypnotism is a very surface level version that's been sanitized for safety reasons. You can do full inductions on stage but there's a risk of abreactions that you find in therapy. Is your grandfather an Erikson?
>Stage hypnosis
Notice how those guys just LOVE doing high school grads and kids bday parties???
Some of the prime candidates that got 'special inductions' will be calling that hypnogay after hours from a burner phone to arrange meeting up to frick, because its all she can thing about. Everytime she thinks of his name, she goes to the edge of orgasm but can't cum unless he does it.
That's what happens. That's why they love doing 'certain venues' with 'certain demographics'
>nothing safe about it, except it'a appearances
I watched this yt vid of a hypnorapist that went to one of those e-girlcons, idk i was some anime fest and he picked this ultra cutie and took he to the hotel room to do "fun hypnosis". He gave her this tassle or whatever, and told her to gently flog herself. Whenever she brushed that shit on herself, it looked like she was about to cum. He kept makingher do it and she kept getting ready to cum without consciously even realizing it.
Surely, after the fun was over, he deprogrammed her and sent her on her way.............................
I'm not ashamed to say I've done it to get my dick wet a few times. There really aren't many other options for the kind of introverted weirdos that post on /x/ and learn about hypnosis. Now the one pastor, missionary and "christian counselor worked with briefly that was doing it all the time and didn't know what it was (he called it faith, I called it hypnotic language patterns and he got really mad because his black Black person monkey brain equated it with the devil), he was absolutely vile with who he took advantage of.
>hey guys newbie here i dont know anything about consciousness so in my expert opinion its not real
you will never understand consciousness.
i do but you never will.
sorry you're just not smart enough to understand it.
>personal narrative
what a useless post homie
Take enough life-force pills before entering a hypnosis session...
>hypnotism is fake
lol. lmao. we all spend 2/3 of our lives playing groundhog day and everybody just plays along.
yes all performative hypnosis is staged. people on this board like to larp like they're important enough to be MKUltra'd