Jesus real?
Jesus real?
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Yes
yes no yes no yes no waht a pointless thread
Afraid not
He retained his semen and achieved great success
He is a midrashic myth created to trick the goyim into worshiping the God of Israel.
Real is a very loaded Word, I prefer the term ponzi scheme
No.
He represents a mental process, like sleeping, and having a laugh. Just another process.
Everything about religion is allegory about the mind. Everything, even god.
Yeah, you can talk to him on the astral plane if you call for him. He's one of the most compassionate and dedicated men out there and maintains the heavenly pure land for Abrahamists.
how to do it?
Still no answer mmga
ATA. Meditate, pray for him to come to you, and pay attention. Don't expect instant results, you have to condition your mind and build the nerves necessary to perceive spirits. Jesus's essence is here, all around us, but most people just can't see it. He radiates the very soothing gold energy of an enlightened being and appears in robes of white.
>ATA.
who is that?
>Meditate,
how
>He radiates the very soothing gold energy of an enlightened being and appears in robes of white.
Did you ever ask him what is his opinion on beyon evil US ~~*masonics*~~ and their loyal friends that decided to bomb TWO largest Christian cities of Japan during Transfiguration day celebration (ie day when Jesus revealed to his friends as a bright light, a mockery) and three days later (because three = 3 = trinity = project Trinity, yet another cruel mockery) ? Killing in the end 66% Christians (from those who died) according to data. What is His opinion on That ?
Of course, praise his Holy Name frogposter.
Yeah
Jesus is the only thing that is real
I know it
He was just some schizo who manipulated other morons to worship him.
Yeshua was.
Jesus is the name that tyrants gave him when they started using his persona against his teachings to subdue everyone.
The historical figure that is Yeshua of Nazareth is generally agreed upon to have existed historically, and to have been the originator of Christianity as a movement.
People today can't even agree that yes Superman can kill and "even" use guns and it is not out of character when it was in comics By his creators (and was "even" in modern comics like Action Comics #805 and Superman/Batman Public Enemies #2 , for all those dishonest abberations with their "well character didn't even levitate back then" mental gymnastics) in the first place
But OFCOURSE ppl will agree about something that happened 2000 years ago!
It's relatively easy to establish the existence of a person when there are multiple official documents from different sources that mention that person and would have no reason to lie.
Establishing consensus on what that person did and why, however, is a competely different thing.
And by the way, I'm not sure if you know about this, but Superman is a literary character who, as far as we know, did not exist in the historical record.
How is it easy? How it is Easier than capeshit debate that is 20th century product meaning it has photo (at least) evidence and some background data on Who wrote this and sometimes even Why (like how in his 1978 unreleased memoir Creation of Super-Hero, there is PDF of it out there, he tells story of him always getting late to the school which he hated to be in (literally me) and sometimes he had to put clothes Over pijama that he slept in , that's tangent why Clark wears Superman clothes underneath (and btw, Clark Kent - Superman with cape and S shield was fully created in 1935, and sent to different publications, even though "officially" it was released in 1938 After Lee Falke's The Phantom in 1936 it preceeded him in everything) or how he had absolutely Terrible experience with so called "females", that's Why Superman in general is one of the first fictions where women Can be as dogshit and men, if not More, seriously even Greek Myths women were always victimized villains at best, not the ones who Did have it all good yet still chose to be terrible ) of it.
Frick, right Now there is debate based on fiction from 17-19th century that climate itself may be different 200-300 years ago, than what official school pretends to be. Hell, fricking vaxx 3-4 years ago, what the frick was that and why immedietally after that Russian-Ukraine war started .
And on Bible and Christ data it goes full schizo on Who and When wrote it first time, first images of Jesus with short hair and wand and full blown Deep meaning (as in the Why of Superman elements mentioned above) that this is all just an allegory and his story Jesus really is "just" a Moon metaphor and he "ressurected" because eclipse ended back then or whatever.
It is like in Russia when Peter 1 The Great who most probably was mason made 7209 year into 1700 starting with January 1, therefore today Russians (and all people who were under Russia rule back then) should hav 7533 year, instead of 2024.
furious midwit hands typed this post
Notice how you can't even type that I am wrong.
>Superman isn't original character on itself, but Gladiator ripoff
>just like how Star Wars is Dune ripoff or Robocop is Judge Dredd ripoff, or how Professor X is Bill Dunn Super-man and Ultra-Humanite ripoff
Or Dr. Manhattan is Bill Dunn Super-man + Clark Kent Superman + Jim Corrigan The Spectre + Hugo Danner Gladiator ripoff
Or Iron Man is Metalo + Metallo + Batman ripoff
Or Marvel's Thor is Billy Batson Captain Marvel
Or Spider-Man is DC's Tarantula + original Superman ripoff
Or Bill Batson Captain Marvel is Superman ripoff.
Or Terminator is Outer Limits ripoff which is 1934 version Superman ripoff
Or Ant-Man is Silver Age Atom ripoff which is ripoff of Doll Man and of The Spectre's way of traveling through telephone lines through shrinking
Same way it Can be with Jesus. Not the first , but one the Really popularized whatever notions behind that figure . Problem is not one can pin point what these notions Are really without mental gymnastics, unless they somehow talked to the guy in astral plane or whatever and Actually know him If Jesus isn't at least partly fictional and ripoff of some other ripoff like how
desribes it
>ripoff
You have never and will never create anything.
>You have never and will never create anything.
I am just like any Man, yeah. Even Nikola Tesla attributed his inventions to the aether stuff that his brain "simply" picked up.
At best I can stand on the shoulders of the giants as they stand on the shoulders of other giants. And at best tweak and pervert certain things in the alredy established grand design.
Sometimes these "giants" (or their "owners") are fair and admit the obvious, sometimes they do things DC Comics way , when Phillip Wylie tried to sue them in 1939-1940 Siegel had to deny that Superman was influenced by Gladiator, despite it being SUPER obvious even from
insect comparison alone. Then DC Comics sued Wonder Comics Wonder Man from continuing and Superwoman by Rae Irvin from continuing either, Then when Captain Marvel comics were outselling Superman comics in 1950s DC Comics sued Fawcett in making them stop, and they did and they even hired CM's top writer Otto Binder to do Superman comics. Same exact DC Comics who not only fired Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster in 1947 after they tried to get rights back for the character in which publisher (and really Everyone from 1933 to 1939) never really believed which is why after Action Comics #1 Superman doesn't appear on covers again until experiment with Action Comics #7 and #8 and ONLY THEN after Action Comics #9 there was "Superman in here" on ever single Action Comics cover.
At the same time, same DC never bother Marvel/Timley for Some reason, despite Iron Man being more outright ripoff than Captain Marvel ever was.
And there is VERY clear Before and After 1938, but actually after 1935 since most of these creators were insiders and not just readers so they definitely knew more than others.
Everything has the preceeding element, Especially pop culture, which again, practically started in 1938 in todays format. Literally Siegel created Or popularized ripoff, retcon, remake, meta and other Core of pop culture.
And Superman isn't original character on itself, but Gladiator ripoff (originally and then John Carter a bit when Siegel retconed In low gravity of Earth as part of His Superman's power source, and in K-Metal from Planet Krypton Superman would be revealed to be powerful as any Supermen would because planet Krypton itself charged him and them with powers but then its fragments would depower him on Earth while making Earth's men...super -> some guy writes More Fun Comics 101 while Siegel was at Army and makes Supermen Kryptonians Only powerful on Earth due to low grav -> Bill Finger makes Kryptonians have x-ray vision "even" on Krypton still but rest are low gravity explained -> 1960 (while Siegel breifly retvurned) Superman's and other Kryptonians powers are solar based + low gravity also Superman 170 issue where Jor-El becomes super temporily because of old Krypton civilization artifact) with 1 subverted core trait being that he keeps Secret from the people that he , Clark Kent, has powers , unlike Hugo Danner from Gladiator, which is launch for entire pop culture way of thinking from and thinking through, just like how Star Wars is Dune ripoff or Robocop is Judge Dredd ripoff, or how Professor X is Bill Dunn Super-man and Ultra-Humanite ripoff or how really anything popular these days.
Btw before there was He-Man Superman was called He-Man in Superman 3 by Lois Lane.
Reminder
Well, original Superman's foster mom in the Last origin version done by Both creators was called Mary Kent, while father was nameless, and in 1934 version they were Sam and Molly
and also Siegel co-created The Spectre
(tho one on picrel was made after Siegel) who's initials are literally J(im)C(orrigan) and he dies and is brought back to life in the first issue with powers that dwarf Superman at That time (1940).
He doesn't have to be -- the Mythology is sufficient enough!
no.
Is it weird to believe that Jesus was a person who existed but not the stuff that the bible says about him?
Obviously not. Nothing exists on that israelite besides very few accounts from anonymous israelites lol.
There was a story of a Jesus character. Mithra and others. Born of a virgin, god incarnate etc. tied to the solar system and astrology etc. it was everywhere in every religious myth almost. There was Yeshua who lived. Same story. There is christ consciousness that is what that is. There is a right way to live. There is the holy spirit, the father or god. The mother or goddess, like Mary to Jesus. There is biology and male and female and DNA and evolution and the micro to the macro. There is ego and identity and philosophy. There is all this stuff and it's not hard to get the message. Just be a good friend and look out for those less fortunate. Wheat and chaff. A bonsai plant. A timeline and a gardener.
he's my master ofc.
Probably not. He was a israeli mythological figure from a mystery cult that the christians morphed into a historical figure. For example, in the book "On the Historicity of Jesus", the author gives it a 1 in 12 000 chances he was a real person
what does the word cult mean
Why don't you find out for yourself?
Pray this prayer:
>Lord Jesus Christ I'm a sinner, save me and move into my heart, in your holy name I pray Lord Jesus. Amen.
He is obviously real, only homosexuals who deny reality say no.
Heck, if you want to argue it should be something like- was he actually God? Although it's not very debatable either
Possibly. I think that Flavius Josephus mentioned him in his writing, can't remember the exact context though. I think it may have been a reference to his disciples and something vague to the pre-66 AD rebellion times? That's it as far as confirmed historical sources go, iirc.
I heard the elites found him and they're torturing him somewhere underground to grant wishes and do things to their favor
Let's free the JC guy then.
Who prophesied destruction of the second temple ?
Academically, yeah, there is a belief that Jesus was real. They don't have evidence for any of the religious elements of the story but there is a general belief that a person named Jesus was crucified and killed.
Yes. I saw him once when I got haunted on the wall after I asked him to make it stop (It did), and then I saw him in a fever dream. He's absolutely real and I am absolutely grateful
No he's a figure from israeli mythology meant to spread the Torah to the goyim
Just ask "They" what happened in 2005? They won't answer though, they know he is real.