Is Michael or Lucifer stronger? I feel as thought Lucifer is second only to YHWH right? But he was beaten by Michael at least once proably more.
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Is Michael or Lucifer stronger? I feel as thought Lucifer is second only to YHWH right? But he was beaten by Michael at least once proably more.
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Michael mogs by a long shot.
YHWH = VOODOO CURSE
LUCIFER = PUNK ASS b***h
I BEAT THEM ALL EVERYTIME. FRICK ANGELS Black person! I AM GOD HIMSELF.
>t. fell for the nobody CIA Black person psyop
Nope that nobody CIA Meme is the Redhead girl from the Whitehouse. Jen whatever.
Also that nobody poster acts as a calculator for Barack Obama the Black person thief who got shot in the head by Rupert Murdoch.
Funny thing about it is psyops or not, it's a modern take on the prophecy of the legendary hero or Messiah who shall come and rid the world of evil, and the less specific a prophecy is and the more wills invoking it make it more likely to come true
"What would you have us do?"
God himself (maybe) shitposts on /x/
I know this won't be well received, but
Lucifer = bearer of light = most powerful.
Satan was 'Lucifer,' then was reprimanded and became 'the Devil.'
How funny would it be if Satan redeemed himself after a Millennia or two of Hell and was bestowed the little of 'Lucifer' again? And now 'the Devil' is basically parasitic israelites that not even Satan fricks with now leaving them completely abandoned?
>if Satan redeemed himself after a Millennia or two of Hell and was bestowed the little of 'Lucifer' again?
Is this possible?
Not him but it’s an interesting concept. Id like to believe it is
Do you think that anyone is redeemable anon? Regardless of how evil their actions are? If they truly want to change?
Technically it is, there is no being outside the Mercy of God, but it would take a complete and honest repentance and an asking for forgiveness. Something which Satan cannot and wont do. He can, but he wont. Because his Pride is the premise to his Fall. He thinks he can defeat God using God's own rules and he believes that Man is inherently flawed and evil.
Well the most important part here is that you keep me out of whatever dream you're imagining here be it true or not. Because it literally leaves no room for ending good for everyone and that is what I'll die with in my head here. Frick that. Fricking insanity. As flies drawn to poop and look at this thread, a literal war between 21 posters who don't know shit about shit except some text written by MAN
And yes 21 posters is the total here which includes myself
No, it's not possible. Angels cannot repent or be forgiven, because, as divine entities, angels have a limited form of omniscience. Infinitely dumber than God, but infinitely smarter than humans. Thus, it's impossible for an angel to make a "mistake", because it already knows the consequences of its mistake before it makes it. Lucifer willingly betrayed God KNOWING what would happen. Humans are forgivable because they don't know any better. Fallen angels know better; they just don't care because they're pure evil.
They became evil, as they were created good. Is it just human arrogance that imagines the change can revert them to their original state?
Demons aren't evil in the way humans are evil. Humans are simple infectees of evil, and are naturally predisposed to it by way of original sin. Demons are the CREATORS of evil. The authors of sin. And, as you say, they were created to be pure good, yet their spirits are still so fundamentally, irreversibly twisted that they not only succumbed to evil, but created it.
>angels have a limited form of omniscience
not how that word works. Omniscience is omniscience. Anything less is non-omniscience. It is, by definition, impossible to limit omniscience.
>Infinitely dumber than God, but infinitely smarter than humans
Also not how that word works. You cannot have infinitely more or less than something. Once it is limited, it is no longer infinite. I mean, c'mon now, anon. You know these things.
As to whether or not angels can be forgiven, they cannot. Because they are a part of the divine imagination. God, in His infinite state, is all that is, was, will be or could be. Anything that could potentially exist is a part of Him. That includes evil and suffering and the devil. The whole nine. The reason Satan (whatever that word means to you) cannot be forgiven is not because what he did was really, really bad. It is because he is eternal. It is the aspect of reality that God is rejecting to form a perfect Kingdom. Satan isn't being punished because he did something wrong. He is being punished because he is wrongness itself. And it isn't really even a punishment, because that would imply reform. A better way to think about it is that God is choosing to put that aspect of reality somewhere where it can't hurt the rest of reality anymore.
Same anon posting an addendum. And it's not only God that must go through this process. It is all of us. We must choose goodness, though we are capable of badness. As above, so below. The macrocosm is always reflected in the microcosm. Our journey IS the SAME journey God is willfully partaking in. We must make ourselves like Him.
What is 'goodness'? Describe a deed or a work. You understand you will be pounded on mercilessly, right? I am not saying there is no goodness, I am saying there is badness.
So you want to take over the The Earth/Universe? That will make you happy? You want connection to "The Realm" for absolutely nothing? You want no judgement? I don't get what you're asking here.
>What is 'goodness'? Describe a deed or a work. You understand you will be pounded on mercilessly, right? I am not saying there is no goodness, I am saying there is badness.
Goodness is love. It is the desire to feel good and for all other beings to feel good. Not hard.
>Goodness is love
What kind of love?
>It is the desire to feel good
There's different understandings of 'feel good'? Forgive me for asking but can you clarify? Do you mean joy, elation, pleasure? If pleasure, what do you mean by pleasure? Sexual? What?
>There's different understandings of 'feel good'? Forgive me for asking but can you clarify? Do you mean joy, elation, pleasure?
When it comes like a comforting feeling from your heart as if its god telling you everything is going to be ok. When you feel it its unmistakably itself.
>Zion is engineering salvation.
Don't know what that means, clarify. Speak plainly if you will.
>You don't need to union with a debility
Your vocabulary is superior to mine, I don't exactly know if you're making up words and putting them into Google (which wouldn't make a difference) but you really are not making any sense. You seem to be getting frantic.
Salvation existed before Jesus, bruh.
Yahweh peddled piss-week Davidic unions.
If you don't understand then boo fricking hoo.
>Salvation existed before Jesus, bruh
I know this, I don't care about Jesus' Salvation. I don't care about much but being left alone, which I know I won't be. By people who think I can't just leave after I die, it'd be in your best interest to keep me as alive as possible for as long as possible, trust me. Don't really care about my fate much more than that, Unseen, no unseen. Abyss, no Abyss. "Hell", no "Hell". Reincarnation or no, because I don't even have faith in myself. I lay it all on the line for an 'idea' in my head or so you think. War will not cease? Then uh, have fun doing the same things over and over again.
>o you want to take over the The Earth/Universe? That will make you happy? You want connection to "The Realm" for absolutely nothing? You want no judgement? I don't get what you're asking here.
wtf is this idiocy?
Holy-spirit is a nutjob.
deal with it.
>wtf is this idiocy?
So he wants the Earth to be raised into a paradise again? He wants Earth to be remade into something akin to The Presence? Again, please clarify or say you don't know what you want.
Jesus is false god.
You follow him out of the traditions society imposed on you of whom the good guy is.
nothing more.
You follow him out of ignorance.
>Jesus is false god
I don't exactly "follow" him and I don't exactly "follow" your side either. You want me to choose a side, but you don't get is that apparently since I have no faith then I will suffer on both sides. I am "nobody," remember?
>If you're God, teleport yourself out of the Universe right now
You're not the Nobody, piss-ant.
Then who am I? Oh nah-nah, What's My Name?
>Then who am I?
poop
>Oh nah-nah, What's My Name?
Mr Hankey
yes. stop asking that other anon.
sanity is over rated
Thanks for the reachround, poof.
>She doesn't understand that there are different understandings of Zion
>I will be free after subjugating the people around me, I promise
Then why aren't you in Heaven RIGHT NOW?
Zion is engineering salvation.
You don't need to union with a debility.
I'm speaking in oversimplified terms. I understand infinity, I'm just trying to paint a vivid picture to illustrate just how powerful angels are. We think of them as servants and lackeys, which they are compared to God's infinity, but that overlooks their unfathomable intelligence and power. Demons passed as full-blown gods in antiquity. Satan destroyed a third of the universe in Revelation. The only reason we don't call them gods is because they're just short of omnipotent.
…I mean as a Luciferian this comment is really not that off the mark, but you are still constrained by Christian mythology in identifying Yahweh as totally synonymous with the highest principle.
Lucifer is unironically on the side of the “good guys” who view human beings and civilization as good and capable of tremendous things, if they just learn to accept the consequences of their mistakes and live by higher moral principles.
The israelites, for the most part (barring some good ones), are graceless infidels who hate humanity and themselves, and out of spite for their sad existence, want to hurt humanity and destroy all of civilization, all the while satiating their egos.
That’s a beautiful card.
Begone from my Thread you vile beast, May the Arch angel Michael drive you back to the pits of darkness and eternal fire from hence you came and shall the lord lights burn your flesh and make you weep until you beg for forgiveness from the father.
You sound fun at parties
Amen, anon
Respectfully disagree. You probably identify Lucifer with the serpent of Eden, but I would say its actually Jesus. Lucifer, like all of the variations of the devil associated with the 7 deadly sins are man-made. Normative inversions turned into full blown egreore. Lucifer was used as a normative inversion of Venus, Beelzebub was a shot at Baal, Satan was once again describing opponents of Israel.
Another attempt by a group to personify Stasis, which ended up becoming a normative inversion of Mohammed/Mahomet. Baphomet, Satan, Lucifer, and all the rest are what Christ showed us how to conquer when he confronted the "devil" with truth. Genesis and revelation are happening within you right now.
>Lucifer was used as a normative inversion of Venus, Beelzebub was a shot at Baal, Satan was once again describing opponents of Israel.
You are unironically really ignorant and constrained by israeli thought / mythology. If you spent enough time digging through pagan greek philosophy and religion, you would be stunned who Lucifer actually is and where the Baphomet actually comes from.
But that's a journey you have to make yourself through wrestling with Greco-Roman pagan religious texts.
But the one thing you never must do, is go deep inside yourself and envision what kind of universe you'd want and where you yourself would feel truly at home in. Right? 😉
>If you spent enough time digging through pagan greek philosophy and religion, you would be stunned who Lucifer actually is
a minor Roman deity
Wrong. You need to dig deeper than that.
>Wrong
My bad. Lucifer is a incredibly unimportant Roman deity that was never worshiped, had no temples, and barely a footnote in Roman mythology.
That minor deity plays a big role in Ovid's Metamorphosis, but regardless, there's another god who was pretty important I would say.
who's an important aspect of God?
If that's correct, he should be grateful for being allowed to live in such Anonimity. And he's more humble than you think. (He doesn't have to accept the compliment.)
>Lucifer is a incredibly unimportant
And iirc the usage of referring to Venus as "Lucifer" in Isaiah predates the Roman usage of "Lucifer" specifically. Which means that they adopted the usage of the term from their opponents. I haven't read every book in the world yet though, What texts are you referring to?
This. I don't think you'll be able to convince the Christians though. They can't see past their bible which they idolize.
This happens in the Sandman Slim novels. Lucifer grows weary of managing Hell and ascends to Heaven as the Archangel Samael. Someone else takes his place as ruler of Hell, and so it goes.
In a world with 7 billion egos trapped together would sound like hell. Egos aren't meant to be together unless they match lol
sounds like heaven to me
if they match they are slave to established power
Well rumors have it that there's an opening position here so feel free to try on if you want it. But again that's just a rumor and there's the chance I'm just full of shit
did you ever think, life was a test of God
and the true future of humanity
is to be wiped out
all at once - all of God 'ascending' together
rather than 'lingering on' in selfish people that want to indulge in the physical, reincarnating into bloodlines
it could almost be seen as graceful to go on a spree in life
perhaps the ultimate pleasure of life
releasing as many vessels as possible
then in the end... there will be two
I thought a long time it's a test from God, but atm I struggle to believe this as there's so many living things that suffer, be it animal or human I really struggle to believe anymore. So much drama and shit, so much struggle. And on top of that you got the whole society thing going on. It's like a million traps in a million traps. At a certain point I started to care less(even though I don't), or perhaps dissociated myself more and more is a better word. As it comes to the point it's too much, and perhaps the worst on top of that finding out I really don't have free will, like at all. Drained beyond belief of energy. And I only got one mission in this life now as I see it, and that is taking care of my dog. And even that I fail with imo as I went on this fricked up journey which made me even more sensitive, like I wasn't too weak and sensitive from the start. And I can't even be as good as a parent to my dog as I want. A failure from all sides, no matter how much I try and want. Free will is a joke. Therefore my only escape is literally throwing all eggs in my basket for some dumbass fantasy which most likely doesn't involve this world.
>it could almost be seen as graceful to go on a spree in life
perhaps the ultimate pleasure of life
releasing as many vessels as possible
Frick your jihad psyop, israelite.
have you ever thought about channelling aspects?
Srs
Also:
Lucifer.
He integrates both the light and dark aspects. While technically a fallen angel, if you interact with him there is definitely a "demonic" aspect.
Michael is strong. But the interpretation of bringing "souls" to "heaven" as an angel of death is misunderstood. Michael aids in the process of incarnation and rebirth.
Lucifer is the being who unites mortals back with God. He's as close as you can get to the absolute via him being a seraphim. Indeed one of the "highest" ones.
Whereas Michael is an archangel.
Lucifer is the light bringer. He illuminates people. He's interested in your ascension and evolution. He is not against God at all, that's just religious lies. But Lucifer also rules hell.
Any time I work with Lucifer, other demons and angels become silent out of respect for him. He is a badass.
>Renich Tasa Uberaca Biasa Icar Lucifer
Hail Lucifer.
sounds similar to malakala, which is phonetically nearly identical
You aren't wrong.
I typically use Shiva when practicing Yoga and moving prana up my spine.
Indeed Lucifer has even guided some of my Yoga sessions. Showing me various forms of Kriya and ascending me to higher dimensions.
Invoke him. Let him talk through you. He provides an answer almost instantly to what it is you need to do to evolve.
He's likely already following you. He's incomprehensibly powerful.
Just make sure you're ready for it. Lucifer is not as harsh as say Asmodeus or Belial, but he works quickly.
See this all makes sense other than the last part.
>Hail Lucifer?
Nah see I'm pretty sure that's the problem where praise is suppose to go to the almighty G.O.D.
Lucifer himself would be telling you not to worship Lucifer, where Lucifer knows who is boss, and worships G.O.D.
That's because you live in dualism still.
You have not earned that insight yet.
There's work to do. If you're really curious about what's actually true.
? I don't believe you.
Don't believe. That's the problem.
Go find out. Start a meditation practice, or yoga, and begin building up your awareness.
Seek God within. Become divinely empowered. Then invoke Lucifer and let him do his magick.
Do what thou wilt Anon. You are the universe experiencing itself.
If you're looking for permission to let go of religious faith, this is it. You are allowed to explore for yourself. The left-hand path is all about empowerment.
Doing what you will is satanic BS! What if the perso nwants to kill and rape? It's non sense created by demons to fool people like you into believing you are god, but in fact you are not god. You are mortal, you will die and go back to the ground from whence you came. We will all go back to being dust!
wtf
frick you Black person
who are you to deny anyones divinity?
Wow! I'm allowed to do that by the same logic you are telling the guy to follow. "Going what you whilt". My will is to deny your divinity! See? See how this is stupid?!
Wtf! Stpo being moronic! We are not gods! You can't even save yourself! You can't turn rocks into bread! lol
Stop being moronic!
Evil is an aspect of God.
I don't let it control me. Nor goodness. I don't need a moral framework to shape my behavior or practice. I consider that neurotic and unecessary.
Harming others is irrational and most of the time unjustified. I don't need a moral imperative because I've transcended it. I am just and kind simply through my own volition. I recognize all humans are aspects of my divine self. And I respect them. And help when I can.
Hail Satan.
Love is the law, Anon.
That's because you are a nut case.
I disagree.
I am free. Free of the egocentric contrivances that bind you.
Your divinity is within. Love is the purpose of existence.
Just gaze beyond the fear. And you'll see the truth of who you are.
Feel free to disagree. Fine. But believing that you are free from the ego is a major BS! You are not free from your ego for you believe that your are God! That's like the maximum level of egotistical believe. You believe that you are God! You are super deep into the ego thing.
Wow!
The ego is also an aspect of God.
One that has no more weight that any other duality in its being.
I don't love or hate my ego. It's just there.
Not the anon you're responding to, but I'm clearly a bit ego myself as I somehow deep down think I'm kinda A god, not THE god, and I stick to that belief because I'm desperate to live in a comfy universe with a lot of animals who are nice who enjoys playing and eating and shit and we all can live together having a super comfy existence without what ever the frick is going on here in this thread as well as this world. Unironically
If, if, you are a god then that is not something escpecial for you see there are, like, 7 billions of those out here. lol
Even if you want to believe that you are a god to feel especial you end up being just one more between 7 billions.
Perhaps it isn't 7 billion Gods.
Maybe separation itself is the illusion.
Of course it's not 7 billion Gods. There are just one! The Most High. Everything else is a creature.
Good.
Now recognize you are one.
Nah it isn't to feel special, I mean in "my universe"(my fantasy being brought to life) I would need to feel special as I finally would be free, the universe would be to my liking and I would be anonymous if there was any "human like civilizations" there, the animals would be my family/pets whatever you wanna call them and so on. It would be to have a comfy and cozy existence as it is what I like.
If I wanted to be "special" I could want to be the God of this world, which I really don't if I could rather be one in a world of my liking
I wouldn't need to feel special*** typo
Oh my goodness. I am fairly confident you are just as confused as you're trying to make everyone else.
I'm righteous, that's all I know.
Praise the LORD, G.O.D.
I'm telling you, original honeypot.
Your God is a false one.
Who is the one doing the worshiping?
Do you exist outside of God?
No MY God is the true God and not either of yours mohahahaha you are both heathens and blablabla let's frick eachother up some more and feed our egos like 100 streamers playing rust together, what can go wrong right?
Name?
Khristaphalamadama
Ngl, sorry, but that's a funny name. You must be a funny guy.
Maybe, thanks I guess. I recently took a picture at the police for my national ID and got it today and I look like I got a deadly disease so probably won't be a funny guy for long though
You'll be alright.
Thanks for the kind words anon even though I press x to doubt. But there's always allowed to hope
Regardless of your doubt, you will be alright. I can still allow you to doubt and still work. Not like you know who I am anyway.
>Not like you know who I am anyway.
Some parasitic lifeforce trying to take people away from worshiping the true G.O.D.
Probably a israelite
Name?
jew?
Thought so.
Like-wise, israelite.
Do you force your pets to worship you guys? Or do you just pet them or enjoy their company?
I don't sweat the petty things, and I don't pet the sweaty things.
Suit yourself.
You aren't ready yet.
Lucifer guide you.
I wonder if you're the one who needs guidance here as you clearly can't take it when given
By all means. I'm actually pretty open minded.
Feel free to share your beliefs with me. And I'm not being sarcastic either. I'm always open to learn something new.
I'll respect what you think.
What?! LOL
My dude, G.O.D. is the Absolute.
Name?
See,
Yeah, and you worship an Angel, and that Angel worships G.O.D.
Prove it without throwing around bible verses like they're supposed to be some kind of "evidence".
I'll take this one.
God is named by most religions to be Truth and The Infinite. To prove these things exist is as simple as 1+1=2 and 1+1+... = infinite. To experience these things is as easy as taking a breath. It's sad how modern religions and their detractors have twisted God. All that we experience is Truth, is God. God is the Absolute.
All things emanate from God. I'll give you that. With that said, why do Christians think that their particular emanation of God is the only God as if other emanations are somehow "false" or "inferior"? Christians also claim that something that is apart of God as a whole (Yahweh) IS God in it's whole, rather than simply being one of many faces of it.
With that said, Lucifer is God just as much as Yahweh is since everything is a face of God.
Christianity has been twisted through the corrupting forces of power. Do not blame followers for the sins they inherited, but don't waste your breath on those who refuse to see them either. Judgement is not our place, we can only rightfully set an example others want to follow.
Well, I don't agree with Christianity but you made a statement here I wholeheartedly agree with.
>we can only rightfully set an example others want to follow.
I think this is the way to true salvation no matter what path you follow. Holding oneself to a higher standard and acting as a beacon of light for others to follow does far more to change the world than screaming or protesting does in my opinion, even though I'm a Luciferian and our beliefs are different, you do have my respect.
It's funny you're acting like I'm a christian, while half the people on /x/ act like I'm the Antichrist. I'm just a nobody from nowhere. I don't like organized religions.
All "things" come from God, emanations aren't fricking "Universes" you moron. Universes are products of "God's" (Ugh, that word) power through sometimes other beings and sometimes --self.
LITERALLY "LUCIFER" IS NOT A DRAGON, STOP CONFLATING THE TWO, YOU LOOK DUMB.
>LITERALLY "LUCIFER" IS NOT A DRAGON, STOP CONFLATING THE TWO, YOU LOOK DUMB.
I'm the one saying he isn't, stupid.
SO AM I, MORON. WHAT THE FRICK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT I'M SAYING? LITERALLY CHRISTIANS CONFLATE THE TWO AND IT'S ANNOYING. Stop trying to get a rise out of me and stop talking to me if you think I'm bullshitting.
>lucifer aint in any dragon ascension-form godhead.
yeh, no shit sherlock
Universes comprise part of everything in existence. God is everything in existence otherwise he is not God as he is not all powerful as something exists outside of him. There's also no reason to scream and name call like a complete autist, it shows that you don't have peace in your heart.
You can be calm and not have peace in your heart, moron, just stop trying to sound like you know what the frick you're talking about. You've never even been outside of this Universe.
>God is everything in existence otherwise he is not God as he is not all powerful as something exists outside of him
What do you mean by "God?" Ugh, that word. Anyway, because the "God" I know is Greater Than Infinite and more than "All-powerful." He bestows these things into others, he can also bestow the ability to create Universes even in Unique ways. I'm crazy and new-age though so why do you care? You don't care for "story time" so.
I've literally been saying that this whole time, you sure you're not confused?
>I've literally been saying that this whole time, you sure you're not confused?
You're the moron accosting me, are you sure you're not confused?
>You're the moron accosting me, are you sure you're not confused?
You don't care for my story times but apparently I'm interesting enough to wonder about and follow around.
>follow around.
You keep (You)ing me, anon.
Would you like to challenge him on that if you ever find him? The Venus Density is much like this one but probably with less "galaxies." Since you know so much, mr/ms old age.
http://www.illuminati-news.com/pdf/DialogueWithHiddenHand-WesPenre.pdf
Here's a start on how you can find him. He's in the Astral realm RIGHT NOW, he called me a nothing "Planetary Logos."
>inb4 You're not YHVH/YHWH/Etc
>!!muh HARVEST!!
lmao, all on the same team as Jesus.
All Abrahamics is the enemy of mankind.
Anything specific in there to convince me or is it all just the same law-of-One carry-on?
Idk, bruh, apparently he knows something. I couldn't really challenge him when I spoke to him. I asked him this question here:
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/24767177/#24768995
My head wasn't clear, but he mentioned some other bullshit about the "world's" knowledge on chakras. I should've trusted myself more, I know. If you see him tell him I'm gonna probably shun him, sorry. Maybe he's putting on a ruse, but yeah, I guess it's bullshit. You'd have to call up that supposed Freemason he told he would introduce him to Lucifer to ask him if he actually did.
I am my own church, thank you. You are audacious.
>G.O.D
Get redpilled homosexual
Yeah, I've read that there are entities that feed off our electromagnetic energy.
It's basically the essence of getting bullied.
>get worked up / excited.
Except what your saying is post-mortem.
Also, extremely heavy shit. Lol
>He tries to self-insert in the Astral and will get fricked up by "Lucifer"
>I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
Do Lucifer loves humans?
I thought that Lucifer's driving force was his hatred of God and his creation, though I'm a major newbie
Hating God doesn't mean you hate humans, they can be redeemed and formed to hate God too
>redeemed and formed to hate God too
Frick off, homosexual
Rev 12:7
>And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
>And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
>And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
tldr Mike is stronger
Weird how the devil will deceive the whole damn world but no way the scripted bible is apart of that deception, right?
Which everybody knows and expects
Well gonna be honest, doesn't matter either way. It's all moronic beyond fricking belief. It's so unbelievably stupid it's hard to even get a grip on how dumb it all is.
I mean the answer is there if you look deep inside yourself and ask yourself what kind of universe do YOU want to live inn. And suddenly all that fricking moronic predator behavior in both humans and animals seems so beyond dumb it's insane. All the fricking drama and bullshit we're born with seems so fricking moronic it's insane.
And if the heavens and the hell is equally dramatic and moronic as on earth well frick them as well
>but no way the scripted bible is apart of that deception, right?
right
The devil would have to be a moron to make himself the main antagonist if he was able to manipulate the Bible.
maybe he knows how people tend to chase stuff like that, and the real bad guy is the good guys in the bible
Well you can look in these threads how everyone chases it. And not only chase it, have stern opinions about people they've never met and would die in either sides moronic drama. Not saying I've been innocent in this myself, the beast is inside us all making us chase ego driven shit like this as flies drawn to poop
Word.
>and the real bad guy is the good guys in the bible
Then the devil would have to be a moron to make himself the main antagonist of the Bible.
For a good example on what I just wrote look at this guy
throwing himself inn pretending to know shit about shit
A deeper redpill is IF the devil was never actually opposed to God and they both worked together to gaslight humanity into thinking there is a "good side" and "bad side" for the personal benefits of YHWH
its the same thing with establishing a dichotomy in politics
different directions do different things
different roles, different characters, they do different things
what can it do for you, and what are you able to do through it
what are the needs of the times
No, see evil exists naturally, and so does goodness. G.O.D. or Jesus Christ more accurately, is benevolence. What's funny is to imagine Satan operating "the original honeypot." (Sin) but it's up to each soul to make their choices that dictate where they end up post-mortem biologically speaking.
wrong
evil only exists within and is projected
Summer
How would that be moronic? He'd make you kill Jesus literally once again and crown himself king after "the fake" messiah is made to be a devil as he made a whole world reject him, again. Literally the troll of eternity
>How would that be moronic?
Successfully encouraging 4.5 billion people to fight against you is a moronic way to lose a war.
>He'd make you kill Jesus literally once again
You mean the guy with power to resurrect? You might be moronic yourself.
JESUS WAS JUST A NORMAL MAN
ALBEIT A DECEPTIVE homosexual
Nah the only moron here is you for not understanding what I'm saying yet writing a nonsensical answer like you do understand what I said.
Don't try to sound smart while calling me shit only to end up exposing you're truly just projecting with the word "moron" dumbass. You'll be a fine slave script follower
I'm literally a "fake Messiah" to you. I'm not Jesus, so.
How the frick would you be a "fake messiah" to me? Either you're a messiah or you're not whether your name is Jesus or Pedro Swiftenstein
What's a Messiah? Someone who can save the world? In what way? Saving them from what? Giving them a chance to be redeemed? Redeemed in what way? Being able to be fortitudinous? Apparently I can't do anything and I'm not God. Especially if I'm not Jesus apparently.
>Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
>And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
So, Michael and his angels prevailed not & no longer had a place in heaven...
THEN God threw down the dragon thru the blood of Lamb, instead.
>So, Michael and his angels prevailed not & no longer had a place in heaven...
Satan you really need to work on your reading comprehension
you've read the passage wrong, bro.
There's no further mention of Michael after that.
Michael and the angels are cast out of heaven lol
don't you know the price of fighting?
9 And the great dragon was
cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:
he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
the devil (michael) and his angels were cast out 😀
(CLV) Re 12:11
And they conquer him through the blood of the Lambkin, and through the word of their testimony, and they love not their soul, until death.
9 And the great dragon was
cast out, that old serpent,
called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:
he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (accused them - before god+night+day?)
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (2200/60)
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
there's an order but it's long I just thought I'd post it's Michael and his angels who are 'also' removed from heaven
the dragon didn't fight with angels.
there's an order I don't have it all but I piece certain things
Michael and 'his Angels' are not in heaven
He doesn't differentiate the 'Dome' in the place passed all the gates. And the one on Earth.
>I just thought I'd post it's Michael and his angels who are 'also' removed from heaven
now you're just making up fanfics
>Michael and his angels who are 'also' removed from heaven
Not removed, defeated/slain by the dragon.
Tell me which sector Michael is in, if what you're saying is true.
bruh, Michael is mentioned no more after that.
No further place is found for him.
Michael gone bye bye.
I'm a different Anon, but as you can (not) see, I'm asking you for information about Michael's whereabouts, not for you to ____ your bullshit story.
>I'm asking you for information about Michael's whereabouts, not for you to ____ your bullshit story.
Somewhere up your poohole, obviously.
How could you even be privy to the story if you don't know his whereabouts, then whereabout are you getting this information?
>then whereabout are you getting this information?
Try reading the entire passage without bias for once.
So your ass, because it doesn't outright state that. WHEREABOUTS OF MICHAEL. (Understand that I am giving you the benefit of the doubt here.)
Revelation is prophecy, it hasn't happened yet, anon.
We're talking about the fight that happened in Heaven between Lucifer and Michael, which is said to be in Revelation.
Revelation has not happened yet.
Michael is NOT mentioned again after that.
I was sitting at the bus stop thinking about how similar the current events are to revelations, and a man walked past me, old bald guy, kinda dirty looking, ugly as you've ever seen, and he says "gotta get it done somehow". Man i love being israeli sometimes.
I like this 'start' tbh
12 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: (12) (god?) (earth*) (code?)
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. (7/10/7)
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. (1/3 of 12? : 4*)
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
keep reading further down, Michael didn't thrown the dragon.
>12 stars
Possibly representing apostles in using astral maps in the great battle. Just a game theory.
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels
michael and 'his' angels + and his angels were cast out with him.
didn't you know...
the devil deceived the world
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. (7/10/7)
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. (1/3 of 12? : 4*)
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. (Satan?) rod of iron = law
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, (fought against themselves?)
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
(this is referring to 'satan cast upon earth' - the dragon was wroth for conjuring him and 'casting him unto earth)
😀
>(CLV) Re 12:9
>And the great dragon was cast out, the ancient serpent called Adversary and Satan, who is deceiving the whole |inhabited earth. It was cast into the earth, and its messengers were cast with it.
3 headed dragon was thrown down, not the seven headed dragon.
Dragon is a multi-participant ascension-form.
Really? Nobody checked Satan in this thread?
I did. Later on. Literally called his theory bullshit, that's not "The Dragon" though.
biased ESL christcuck
Dawg, I'm just saying that "The God of This Universe" has favorites. Don't ask who I am. Accept it or don't, doesn't matter.
Michael lost & was never mentioned again.
"no place was found for them" after that.
CRAZY SHIT HAPPENS IN NOWHERE. Just saying, but think whatever narrative you want, talk yourself out of war if you want. Try to talk me out of believing the things I do and it will change nothing. You will still need Salvation.
>You will still need Salvation
Salvation is Zion extended as a river.
I'm not interested in union with a detriment to sojourn madness with a debility.
Keep your spazzbot monster.
>"no place was found for them"
>and the dragon fought and his angels,
>And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
You're moronic
nope, dragon was thrown down by the lambkin.
Not Michael.
Michael was not discussed after that, but the dragon lived on.
read it without bias.
The lambkin prevailed, not Michael.
For nearly the first century or so of Christianities existing the title of "Lucifer" was given to christ..
Dude, if you are on God's side then He can make you stronger than the foe you are fighting? That's common sense. God can give you strength to overcome any obstacle in your way if He so desires.
And yet yesterday I read about three grown men in a city in my country torturing swans at a park like fricking degenerates. But God is here right?
https://www.dagbladet.no/?playVideo=NH6qId6i&isLive=false
Yeah Lucifer is a celestial equivalent to a moronic angsty teen who has no idea why it's unhappy and has no idea that he's constantly lying to himself and everyone around him. He's what we call the ultimate redditor.
I think michael will easily slap she shit out of him, but biblically speaking, that means that we get slapped like a b***h in the process as well.
Nothing better than having some random dude talk like he knows shit about what's really going on making up lore to fit his own personal fricking beliefs on the go.
Lol gtfo
What is he lying to himself about? He doesn't think "Jesus" is something special. He says his understanding of "YHVH" ain't shit. And he praises what he calls "The One." Idk what any of that is, but yeah.
im beginning to think mahakala and michael are the same figure just represented in different ways
i wonder if they're like guardians of the in-between
this realm and another, or something
Also Jesus was a psychopathic fraud
so Michael is likely a fricking evil aspect
>envious G.O.D. does live loudly through you.
Come on anon, take the apple and become as gods, surely your father is a liar keeping you down to an animalistic state and i'm offering you a chance to ascend, eat the fruit, you deserve to have power
Power? It's knowledge, you ain't gonna beat no one knowing everyone's "Hebrew" names.
It's all psychopathic, the whole damn bible except most of Jesus. It's just never ending fricking mind games. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Frick it
He sure look buff in that image, I bet he could wrestle down Michael and get him into a headlock
>You HAVE to reject the world in order to gain spirituality
top kek m8
Satan drones are having a meltdown again
'chosen'
God is so mighty and powerful he tasked Michael with dealing with Lucifer so it wouldn't be a complete mogging.
Mogging? God could literally make him not even want to do what he thinks he wants to do. There would be no fight, "Lucifer" would've collapsed in tears from all the love he felt. It wouldn't even have to be a problem. You don't get it. But whatever, understand "God" the way you want to.
>Mogging?
>Describes how God would mog Lucifer
Do you color outside the lines, Ahmed?
The way you meant it was a fight like a physical fight and you know it, don't try to hide your intention from me. You meant mogging as a beat him up type of situation. The war in "Heaven" was real with real swords, this isn't a joke. You don't understand "God" because you didn't even think of that.
Ego? What "ego" does "God" have? Who is "God" to you?
(NTA) <-- Someone speaking "through" me. "He doesn't understand that Lucifer wouldn't even be able to 'fight' anything pertaining to "The True Creator" for lack of a better term. It is what surrounds him and more."
(You) interpreted what I wrote how you wanted to through your own preconceived notions.
You can mog by
>Physical form
>Strength
>Intelligence
>Size
>Celestial body
>Astral prowess
Everyone and everything can be mogged except God.
Lurk more before you pretend to know the terminology around here.
Lucifer can at least attempt to fight Michael in any capacity.
Lucifer cannot do anything to God, outside of God's will.
Stop being a giga moron anon, just admit English isn't your first language or that your reading comprehension sucks.
Don't go around misinterpreting things and then declaring to other what they meant. Simply ask, without hostility. Surely you've grown more than that.
Bro, you're not in any realm of anything pertaining to "the Grace." I know how the fight in Heaven went down. It is exactly how people imagine it with a Throne and everything. It is not what you understand as anything pertaining to anything about "The True Creator." I locked the gates from Earth, not him. You weren't privy to that, be mad if you want. I literally made it hard for him to physically come down and take me anywhere (which trust me he more than likely wants to take me to Heaven. [Excuse my hubris]. I literally saved his life countless times just sitting here in multiple occasions.)
Anon, I think you're responding to the wrong post. I made no claims about anything pertaining to your post.
No, you're just not understanding what I am saying because you're being a champion for someone and think I'm a liar.
Def wrong post.
Make sure you click the correct one.
I'm talking to someone who does t know what "mog" or "mogging" means.
If that is you, you do not know what it means on the culture on this chan forum (across multiple boards), and are clearly showing your distinct lack of knowledge on this specific thing.
If you are this anon from the last few posts your reading comprehension truly is abysmal.
>Def wrong post
You're outright lying because your words had force in them. That type of "I'll frick you up" force. Please stop, you've calmed down now, I see. But you'll "seethe" if we keep going.
I did not at all.
Me correcting you is something you perceived as a show of force because of the way you react to your father figures correcting you. Seek healing on these experiences.
I called you out for your aggressive behavior, you're the one who is upset.
I can certainly outpost you if you want to just shitpost, but I am and have been sincere.
You keep asking things up as you go along and shifting the conversation to unrelated topics. Common and boring tactics, but it's humorous.
Again, God would brutally mog Lucifer on every plane and any situation.
Lucifer can trade blows with Michael, simple as.
>I did not at all
I'm telling you that you calmed down because I am calm now. You literally had an excited "I'll frick you up" way to your words, that's The Truth, demon. (I told you you'll seethe). He's gonna think I'm angry because I called him a demon.
I think you need to seek help.
You're making things up like other care at all.
You're not winning good boy points for this one.
You were wrong
You were corrected
You didn't like this
You are lashing out
You have no one to blame but yourself.
You are exhausting yourself.
Seek help.
Ask for forgiveness and again.
God would brutally mog Lucifer in any situation any plane of reality.
Lucifer at least gets to fight Michael.
You don't even understand the conversation yourself.
Such a confused and angry anon.
>I made a claim therefore it is reality
Anon you're so funny
There he is, going on a tangent, that proves he's not trying to hide his intention. Name the "planes of reality" you demon in the Astral/Unseen.
Anon, God simply would brutally mog Lucifer.
Lucifer can at least fight Michael.
They are not comparable.
English is not your first language.
You are so angry just because you don't know what mogging means.
It's okay to be new
It's even okay to be wrong
Fishing for angry responses by calling others Demons is misdirection 101
It's not nice to call others rude things though, unless of course you're just shitposting.
P.s. you can only get loved by God by using Jesus as the key.
Love Jesus and God will love you, I suggest you work on that personal relationship with Christ, for he is king.
Jesus loves you anon, but you're still gigawrong about 800% of the posts you've made ITT
"Fight?" Do you mean they argued or had a little limp wristed "fist" fight? No.
That's not at all what I meant.
That may be how you interpreted it but that is something I cannot help.
If Lucifer can do ANYTHING to Michael at all, that's a ln exchange and a fight.
Lucifer could do nothing to God, unless God wills it.
This is why Michael is tasked with fighting Lucifer.
Michael is simply strong enough.
Please let me know if I'm not being clear enough, I believe In ya anon.
"Brutally mog" You're trying to hide your intention of violence behind passive or even non-aggressive meanings, understand you look dumb right now. I can sense your intention now too.
Anon, God would mog Lucifer
Lucifer can fight Michael
These 2 things are not comparable.
Like Krillin vs Yamcha. They are close enough (with big K being the favorite like Michael is) but you know that either would be useless against Goku.
Yes, exactly.
Anon, God would simply mog Lucifer.
Lucifer can fight Michael, how hard is it to understand?
Now it's simply. What I described is not what you described as 'mogging'. What I described is Lucifer stopping all together, he wouldn't be slowed down, it would be no contest. "God" would just Emanate and make Lucifer cry into healing. Heal him with his own tears. Understand this, the "God" you are describing wouldn't need to run because there would be no fight.
Yes anon, that would make Lucifer mogged by the difference in ability between Lucifer and God.
That's what a mogging is.
You don't know what that word means.
"ability"
It's not an "ability", it's just who he is. And no, I'm not talking about Jesus, Jesus doesn't 'emanate'. Do you know what Emanate means?
Yes anon, correct.
The difference between God and Lucifer is so vast that God simply being is enough to defeat Lucifer, however Michael is tasked with this so as to allow Lucifer to even have an opponent.
You need to study English.
What? Bro, again, at least you're loyal.
What does mogging mean anon?
Not your head canon, what does it actually mean.
I didn't know what it meant, I felt your uppityness. Do you think no one can feel that?
I'm talking directly to the Astral demon not the 'human' he's parading around as.
Checked
I had non, again you can interpret the text on your screen however you want. But asking other what they meant is better for dialogue than telling them what they meant.
It took you what, 10 posts to admit you don't know what "mogging" means, which was my entire point.
Thanks for coming clean and playing the game.
>LIVE THE WAY OR ELSE
I wouldn't be talking at all if I was living "The Way" and you'd love that, wouldn't you?
What's this new goal post shift, anon?
What "the way" are you speaking of?
I don’t think that this is in line with God’s depiction in either testament. As the God of Israel, and he is a wrathful god. Christ himself says he brings the sword, and that strife will follow him. The ‘Steven Universe’ version of redemption is a nice idea, but justice means that holy violence and retribution are in order. That is the price of rebellion against the Lord, and he has promised it to Satan as his prize. So I definitely believe God will give Lou a damn good thrashing, and it will be the textbook mogging for all time. Lucifer will be BTFO forever and ever, amen
At least you're fricking truthful in your understanding of where you are and how you view God. You will be rewarded. Thank you.
This poster is unga bunga moron level of autism and has just chosen 1 poster to lash out at, lmao.
Me? 32550175 or the other guy?
>newbie can't into board culture
>Doesn't greentext
>Doesn't mog
Yeah, I think it you unga bunga
Someone took the arrows away and told me not to do that, I don't really care though.
>I don't care so much I made a post about it
Sure whatever you say
No, I mean I don't care about not doing it, they told me why I shouldn't do it. I will not tell you as you already know and want to test if I was listening.
Okay schitzoanon whatever you say.
I’m the one who said God will thrash. I don’t know if that is a moronic take, but I did out myself as a SU watcher so I am partially moronic.AW2AS
No, you're right anon.
The other poster always talking about other things and lashing onto words as some big gatcha is the silly one.
Yes, when Jesus returns it will be with a sword.
>Rev 2:9
Mind posting it?
The thought hadn't even crossed your mind, bro. What was an example of being mogged by God that isn't my example?
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are israelites, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
The sword business starts on MAT 10:34
I don't care? It literally will not change anything. If he's allowed to come down and throw people into "Hell" like it says in Revelation (Which it does say) or not, bro. it literally will not make a lick of difference whatsoever to anything I believe or am saying. I will claim what I claim if a million beings come down and fight alongside Jesus or don't and it's just him fricking everyone up with 'his' might. I don't care if he starts to understand the ability of sealing or making others surrender with love and then opening a 'portal' and throwing them into "Hell" or The Abyss. It literally won't make a difference to who I am. You could get exactly what you want or exactly what I told you and it still won't change my mind.
>The other poster always talking about other things and lashing onto words as some big gatcha is the silly
who? link
>Getting brutally mogged: the thread
ITT: A display of third world reading
Now you think you have Omniscience, stop trying so hard. At least you're loyal and not seething (anymore).
You're not even replying to correct anons anymore.
Seethe harder moron
I seriously doubt a demon would
1. Come to this place specifically to troll you
2. Provide any useful information if he is in fact a demon
Best you can do is invoke our father, holy god, and his son Christ Redeemer
I never said they came to this place specifically to troll me, I just butted in.
Not the same anon, but the promise to us is that someday God will see to it that Lucifer gets his just deserts. But the more I look around, the more it seems like we are just getting worse and worse. I’m not saying that an 11th hour sudden death upset won’t happen, but you can understand how people with the constraints of space/time would think that Satan is stronger, and that maybe the promise of an old book is a demonic ruse to make people hold onto hope just to have that hope remain eternally elusive. The spiritual equivalent of “two more weeks”
Yes anon I understand your point completely and I have pondered many hours on it. How great of a deception would it be if the devil himself coined the Bible with God as the big evil all along tricking others into worshipping Satan by the billions.
That being said the issue here is of the word "mogging" and other anon having poor reading comprehension.
>Pic rel
Thank you for opening dialogue.
What a terrible deception that would be. Although by benefit of deception or creation, men can recognize the difference between good and evil, and that which is spiritually harmful and that which is spiritually nourishing. It makes me wonder if the original sin is not so much a curse but the natural burden of knowing what evil is. Once you are aware, you are responsible to make the decision to avoid it, to practice the opposite. Beasts are not burdened by it, so their actions will always be neutral because they literally don’t know any better. Although once my dog jumped on the table and ate our cheesy potatoes (we went outside to look at something, forgot to take him with us) and when we came back I’d swear I saw a look of ultimate shame and disappointment.
Yes anon, I agree with you.
Very astute observation.
Anything else?
but God is Lucifer
from within a vessel, tormented
he was the only angel wise enough to challenge a hierarchal system
and the only angel brave enough to challenge divinity
why did God need to flex with his throne?
Lucifer called out Gods ego and was punished
Lucifer was a 12 winged seraphim. That's twice as powerful as regular seraphim which are already the strongest angels
You really need to work on your reading comprehension. The semicolon separates independent clauses. It's the Dragon who is cast to Earth, it's explained in detail in the next line.
>t's the Dragon who is cast to Earth, it's explained in detail in the next line.
Thrown down by the lambkin, not Michael.
Lucif's fell off though
>PY0PS
>Lucifer
>rejected by Father and the world
I can relate.
Witch one is the better liar is the real question.
Well, Mikey threw Lou's shiny ass down to earth singlehandedly, so the answer sounds obvious. But it isn't. Lucifer (which is one of the many names this entity has been called. I have an idea about who I think he is, but I won't get into it because at the end of the day it doesn't matter and will only serve to rile people up for no reason) and Michael are powerless without the grace of God Almighty. That is the answer. Who is strongest? Well, who is like God? Angels are but kids pointing finger guns at each other when compared to He who is called I Am.
stop bullying
Lucifer takes every other creature solo, but loses to God. Michael is just an instrument of God's will.
If Michael rebelled and lost God's grace he would be beaten by his brother who is far stronger.
I don't know who you mean.
Satan is Michael's older brother... And as powerful as he is... He can't beat Lucifer without God's assistance. There are none who can. He is the first and greatest of all sentient creations.
>Satan is Michael's older brother... And as powerful as he is... He can't beat Lucifer without God's assistance. There are none who can. He is the first and greatest of all sentient creations
Idk what any of that means, but keep trying I guess.
>I want the restoration of spiritual consciousness in mankind
I have special chosen beings. You will doubt me with your entire heart, I know because I've felt the doubt before, in myself and others. So that means I will doubt myself too.
>You will get this, damn, I don't even think I'm capable of that without surrendering to some other "Source" because I am human so I am limited." I still have that doubt.
>>You will get this, damn, I don't even think I'm capable of that without surrendering to some other "Source" because I am human so I am limited." I still have that doubt.
I'm a hell of a lot of things in addition to being human.
Good for you, I don't think I truly am because I don't feel it in me. That's why my claims seem like arrogance.
Its true whether or not I think I am. Part of the problem lol. I see things and think, thats so wonderful that couldn't possibly be myself, and then the spirit says, 'yes it is'.
That's nice, won't change anything about what I think about myself and how you will recoil at it.
You can always change how you think. You'd be surprised what real love is willing to deal with, in terms of human shittiness. But the love I speak of doesn't come from a place of limited human life and mental perspective, but of an unlimited eternal cosmic perspective. Such love can bring about transformation in even the worst of the sinners, though it may take some time for them.
That's exactly what they would say The Nobody is though?
Sorry, got distracted.
>Why can't you keep focus, you're God
What makes you think YOU can give anyone this feeling?
>What makes you think YOU can give anyone this feeling?
I didn't say that I could. I can feel it myself, and my spirit friend feels it too. When we feel the truth of love in people coming through the spirit there is no mistake.
Oh, my mistake. What is it you want? What is your goal? Be Truthful.
I want the restoration of spiritual consciousness in mankind.
>The Nobody is though?
The mystery of the-holy-offspring is the mystery of Revelation.
Revelation is preparing the Earth for the holy-offspring.
"destroy all opposition"
"prepare the way for the lord"
As if someone in this modern-age would give place to ancient spazzbot monsters.
That being said... Lucifer, though peerless... Is without hope or love. He has ALL of God's blessings... And none of His affection.
It's absolutely horrible and the saddest subject known to me.
Who are you speaking of?
The devil, Lucifer, Satan, the Enemy, the son of the morning... Is the most blessed being in universal history... And the most miserable.
Meanwhile, Yeshua was born a poverty stricken loner destined for torture and humiliation in the service of pawns who despise him... And yet, his spirit was full and He ascended to the position Lucifer covets most dear.
But Satan can never let himself go or get over himself. He cannot love another aside from himself... So God's love is forever withheld.
>devil, Lucifer, Satan,
not aware of any specific union of those three, anon.
They are three separate titles referring to the same figure, pest.
no they aint, simpleton.
Only in gnostic, occult lore would there ever be a distinction drawn between Lucifer the devil and Satan. None of that is biblical.
Lucifer is of Venus.
Devil is not of Venus.
Satan is not of Venus.
You're peddling ineptitude.
The entity's name was subsequently absorbed into Christianity as a name for the devil
Then christianity is autistic.
I see. Good talking to you.
ok, moron.
So it's okay for God to be jealous and vengeful, but greed is where he draws the line?
Neat.
God is not a creation. God is IT. Therefore, to hold him to the standards of a being or creation is a fallacy.
>God is not a creation
God is THE creation. God us US and more. Therefor, to not hold him to our standards would be a disservice. Do you not know that one do you will judge angels?
If you're allowed to create your own Universe, then yes. You won't have to judge these angels at all.
Create your own universe and become the judged then. I'm sure you'll love it.
>Create your own universe and become the judged then. I'm sure you'll love it
>HURRRRRRRRRRRRRR DURRRRRRRRRRRRRR I'M THE NOBODY. YOU'RE SHIT.
C'mon, kid, claim to be me all you like. It will get you nothing.
Looks like I struck a chord. Would you rather I leave you to dream?
Oh boy. Okay, you're The Nobody. What does it change now? You're still in Hell.
Is that what you think it's like to be the nobody? I have to wonder why you claimed it then. In my experience it's more like being detached and playful while engaging fully with life.
>And yet, his spirit was full and He ascended to the position Lucifer covets most dear.
Jesus is a morning star, they're team-mates.
Only in the sense that they both fulfill God's plan. Satan is a step below Jesus.
Jesus exalted Lucifer to become a morning-star.
"scratch my back, I'll scratch yours"
They're TEAM-MATES
When did he do this? When did Jesus exalt the devil?
>When did Jesus exalt the devil?
Jesus exalted Lucifer
Devil is not even of Venus, bro!!
When and where. I need citations. Even a single passage from any source will do.
Do you not know what a morning-star means?
watch
.
>Devil is not even of Venus, bro!!
>Devil
Who is Devil? "Lucifer?" He even said he was of The Venus Density, maybe he meant now, I guess but yeah.
>Venus Density
Density?
wtf?
Yes, every planet in this Density has a "Dimensional" counterpart to it. Or a Density/"Mind." I call them Densities because you can either feel "The Love" or you can't naturally and plainly. In this Density it is hard to feel it because it is the lowest.
new-age
go bother someone else.
You can believe what you want. Reject the information all you want. It won't make you be at true peace.
Don't lecture me, teenager.
>"FOLLOW THE WAY OR ELSE"
Won't change anything.
>Won't change anything.
No, it won't.
You'll still be a moron whom thinks the Devil & Satan are of Venus.
>You'll still be a moron whom thinks the Devil & Satan are of Venus
What? He literally said so himself.
>What? He literally said so himself.
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The Father of Dragons is not Lucifer.
Oh boy, keep lying to me, I love it. (That was sarcasm, Autist). I don't have enough faith in myself to leave this place. You don't get it, bro.
>The Father of Dragons is not Lucifer.
No, its Kokab.
That's not even a new name. That's not his name at all. Like I said, The Father of Dragons is "Omnipotent" in a power sense not ability sense. He didn't even fall. Michael didn't fall either, they were separated. He now travels the Universe trying to understand why -- interfered. This place is bigger than your small ass solar system and Astral realm, moron. Michael wasn't even Omnipotent, he's just crafty, none of his tactics worked and he would've eventually been killed.
He participated in his human form.
>Inb4 He doesn't have a human form
He has several.
>We are only what you make of us. Of course I don't get it, I don't live in your mind. Can you acknowledge your ignorance of me, or would you like to continue playing mr. superior with a literally nobody?
I don't WANT to have to deal with your bullshit, but I will have to.
>That's not even a new name. That's not his name at all.
Kokab is Mercury
Dragon is a Virgo monad +participants.
specifically chosen participants to create the Dragon ascension-form.
>Like I said, The Father of Dragons is "Omnipotent" in a power sense not ability sense. He didn't even fall. Michael didn't fall either, they were separated. He now travels the Universe trying to understand why -- interfered. This place is bigger than your small ass solar system and Astral realm, moron. Michael wasn't even Omnipotent, he's just crafty, none of his tactics worked and he would've eventually been killed.
not interested in storytime, anon.
>Kokab is Mercury
More with your small ass solar system and small ass understanding of the Universe.
>Dragon is a Virgo monad +participants.
Who the frick told you that? He's not even from here, you obviously never met your own Father.
>Lucifer has frick all to do with being part of any dragon ascension-form
Lucifer is not The Father of Dragons. The Father of Dragons won't incarnate here, he hates humans. Part of the reason why he even rebelled was because of the plan to put some beings in a human body.
is Mercury
>More with your small ass solar system and small ass understanding of the Universe.
is a Virgo monad +participants.
>Who the frick told you that? He's not even from here, you obviously never met your own Father.
Frick off with your moronation.
Kokab is Mercury Virgo monad.
Dragons are not associated with Venus, moron.
>Lucifer is not The Father of Dragons. The Father of Dragons won't incarnate here, he hates humans. Part of the reason why he even rebelled was because of the plan to put some beings in a human body.
No, he isn't.
He isn't in any.
I don't know what you mean by this.
Dragons do not sojourn thru lucifers realm.
They are not the same.
Oh, that's what you were trying to say. I've often said I don't know if Lucifer even is Helel. But uh, yeah, apparently this "Hidden-Hand" person claimed to be Lucifer. That's why I even granted him the idea. I don't even care for the title "Lucifer", I don't like saying it. (As if I ever had the title).
>person claimed to be Lucifer
He was obviously schizo, anon.
>He participated in his human form.
>>Inb4 He doesn't have a human form
>He has several.
>>We are only what you make of us. Of course I don't get it, I don't live in your mind. Can you acknowledge your ignorance of me, or would you like to continue playing mr. superior with a literally nobody?
>I don't WANT to have to deal with your bullshit, but I will have to.
wtf is this shit?
Lucifer has frick all to do with being part of any dragon ascension-form.
>Lucifer
isn't a participant of the 3 nor 7 headed dragon.
>this place
We are only what you make of us. Of course I don't get it, I don't live in your mind. Can you acknowledge your ignorance of me, or would you like to continue playing mr. superior with a literally nobody?
Do you not know what a morning-star means?
>The devil, Lucifer, Satan, the Enemy, the son of the morning... Is the most blessed being in universal history... And the most miserable
Funny, I guess me and him have that in common.
>Meanwhile, Yeshua was born a poverty stricken loner destined for torture and humiliation in the service of pawns who despise him... And yet, his spirit was full and He ascended to the position Lucifer covets most dear
Does he want to just be on the Throne and for "Jesus" to go back home? What would he do on The Throne? I don't get what the position of the Morning Star even is? You're saying Venus is the true god of Israel? I'm not gon' lie to you, senpai, I'm kind of pissed he basically said I ain't shit.
when i was raised from the dead the first time on azuze they called me harknes the andoird
or pinocco because i wanted to be a real person.
this was one of the astecs jokes they knew i came from atlantis.
i looked like a tin man.
it was very insulting
because harkness meand saddle.
"someone to be ridden on"
they where talking about sex and calling me a male prostitute.
Lucifer would never in a hundred billions years dream of sacrificing himself in the service of lesser creatures... But leading them and being worshipped by them is an entirely different story.
There would be no way for a mortal to tell they were Satan's pawn, and no way to tell that he was the dark lord in disguise. His deception is without flaw because he is legitimately a being of light.
However... There is a distortion in the spectrum. Satan's color is yellow, not white.
Pride and vanity is ugly.
15yo christians should frick off with their pea-brain ignorance.
THIS
They're memesters who like to scream "Deus Vult!" and pretend to be crusaders.
It doesn't really matter.
I would personally recommend you suck them both off and compare the cum taste.
Pick the one you like more.
The Father of Dragons doesn't have a dick. He's not 'lowly'.
guys?
I'd lock them away, that's not funny. Idk where the frick they come from.
Interesting how one and the other are either robed and can't see their face, with the other having a huge white beard
Sometimes beings hide their face because they don't want stuff done their image, I know why and I won't tell you "consciously" because you might know in the Astral and think you're the one that told me.
?? Idk what you mean and I think you got the wrong guy, but I appreciate the flattery
michael.. read The Life of Adam and Eve
Angel of the lord Vs the fallen one
Golly, that sure is a tough one.
Whichever one God wants to win will win.