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It's still too abstract because they are as snakes hidden in the grass, so inability to stand-up leads to the same result. Can waxing Machiavellian add to the effectiveness of ability? Is Machiavellianism one of the demons of this world?
So is the greatest sin being ineffective? I say, if you can only be one thing "Be efficient."
Being efficient only matters if you have goals which aren't contrary to yourself. An efficient school shooter gets a high kill count but is still a miserable bastard until they shoot themself in the face.
Everything is to the enjoyment of God.
But YOU are trying to be the one to enj0oy them.
THAT is the sin - the desire, the attempt.
That it is impossible is not the point.
Then don't put me into this shithole to begin with.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Maybe you mistake God for a father figure like christcucks do? God is very abstract, trying to define or to deconstruct is to try to put boundaries on him, which is nonsensical. I don't it is impossible to understand God, but language doesn't seem to be enough of a tool to do it.
Who says I'm trying? I simply can't help but enjoy. Now, why does God's enjoyment preclude my involuntary enjoyment? Why would God be interested in ensuring my displeasure? Or a pleasure that is alien to me, on completely different terms? I find myself fulfilled as I am, and not out of animalistic nature; I see no need to follow whatever path you will prescribe to me.
Perhaps this desire (and the fulfillment thereof) is to his desire; we should ask God about what he wants from us individuals, and directly, rather than letting ruling dogmas or teachers tell us what to think. "Hylic" and "Psychic sense-dead" are just lies designed to keep you that way.
Everything is to the enjoyment of God.
But YOU are trying to be the one to enj0oy them.
THAT is the sin - the desire, the attempt.
That it is impossible is not the point.
I love how this is the argument that you've settled on that in your deranged stupid evil moron mind is some kind of indisputable proof that God is good and humans are evil: the fact that God forces humans to exist in a world where forces them to suffer for his enjoyment then says they;re evil if they want to enjoy reality. In your stupid moron brain this is proof that God is good when in actuality it's proof that he's evil. the fact that God forces people to exist so that he can torture them for his enjoyment in a moronic hell world while telling them they're evil for wanting to enjoy reality is proof that God is evil you stupid moron.
John 14:26
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you. >he will teach all things >he
Romans 8:26
Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. >but the Spirit himself >himself
What are your quotes supposed to prove? That the lie has been written in text?
2 years ago
Anonymous
John 14:26
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you. >he will teach all things >he
Romans 8:26
Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. >but the Spirit himself >himself
if you read the original greek new testament, the holy spirit is always referred to as “it” and “that,” because the word for spirit, “pneuma,” is a genderless noun. in greek, there are masculine, feminine, and genderless nouns. the only time the holy spirit is associated with masculine pronouns in the greek is when it is referred to with a different title, which so happens to be masculine: “parakletos.”
in the tanakh, or old testament, the holy spirit (“ruach hakodesh”) is always referred to as “she” and “her,” because spirit is a feminine noun in hebrew. (hebrew only has masculine and feminine nouns — no genderless.)
so what can we learn from this, since the “gender” of a noun doesn’t necessarily determine the gender of the person associated with the noun? look how “table” in spanish (la mesa) is feminine, but in french (le table) it is masculine?
well, we can at least learn that english and other modern translations of the new testament are simply wrong, since the translations always refer to the holy spirit as “he” and “him,” when in fact the majority if the time, the greek leaves it genderless.
what is the gender of the holy spirit?
the key is to look at genesis, where elohiym says “let us make mankind in our image; male and female [elohiym] created them.” in the hebrew text, it actually says “he” created them, but that is only because, again, elohiym is a masculine noun (and also plural, so it should really be “they,” if not for the oneness of god.)
also consider the so-called “allegorical” female character in the book of proverbs called “wisdom,” who co-creates the world with the father much like the holy spirit did in genesis, hovering over the face of the waters. the new testament claims that wisdom and knowledge comes from the holy spirit, and here in proverbs personified wisdom is the female consort to the father god.
to be continued…
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Anonymous
… continued:
also, stop idolizing the new testament over the living god for a moment and consider how “the gospel according to the hebrews” written about in the apocrypha refers to the holy spirit as “mother.”
and lastly, ask yourself how there can be a father and a son without a mother?
and i’m not talking about mary, the earthly mother. i’m talking about the heavenly mother of the Son of the trinity — the Son who existed before time began.
the idea of the virgin birth is a greek/romanization of the real process by which the eternal Son came to dwell in the son of man. the virgin birth narrative is never mentioned by paul in any of his letters. it is a malicious lie or cultural misunderstanding based on roman and greek myths of gods like zeus and poseidon going around impregnating mortal women and birthing demigods.
the son of man is fully human and fully divine, not half human/half divine, and the holy spirit is his heavenly mother.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What are your quotes supposed to prove? That the lie has been written in text?
2 Corinthians 3:17
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. >the Lord is the Spirit
Ezekiel 36:27
And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. >I will put my Spirit in you >my Spirit
1 John 3:4
[...]
Psalms 34:9
Matthew 10:28
[...]
John 6:44
[...]
Proverbs 9
>Proverbs 9
Poetic first and foremost, but wisdom does not equate to the holy Spirit, the holy Spirit is the ultimate truth from God, and it is only through the holy Spirit that anyone can truly understand God.
1 Corinthians 1:20
Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?
… continued:
also, stop idolizing the new testament over the living god for a moment and consider how “the gospel according to the hebrews” written about in the apocrypha refers to the holy spirit as “mother.”
and lastly, ask yourself how there can be a father and a son without a mother?
and i’m not talking about mary, the earthly mother. i’m talking about the heavenly mother of the Son of the trinity — the Son who existed before time began.
the idea of the virgin birth is a greek/romanization of the real process by which the eternal Son came to dwell in the son of man. the virgin birth narrative is never mentioned by paul in any of his letters. it is a malicious lie or cultural misunderstanding based on roman and greek myths of gods like zeus and poseidon going around impregnating mortal women and birthing demigods.
the son of man is fully human and fully divine, not half human/half divine, and the holy spirit is his heavenly mother.
The new testament is the word of the living God, so no; I will not stop going to it for answers, especially because it reflects the new covenant that is still standing, whereas the old covenant is no longer standing. The old has passed, the new has come. >apocrypha
gnostic bullshit
>how can there be a father and a son without a mother
The Son is through the surrogate Mary, conceived by the holy Spirit. Though Jesus is LORD, and Jesus was with God in the beginning, before creation itself, because Jesus is God. No one created God. He was, is and is to come. There is no beginning, nor end to Him.
How do you understand that even? Just uttering bad words about what you don t even understand can t be enough, would be to big of a larp that only denominational morons would fall for. Might it refer to suicide?
Maybe you mistake God for a father figure like christcucks do? God is very abstract, trying to define or to deconstruct is to try to put boundaries on him, which is nonsensical. I don't it is impossible to understand God, but language doesn't seem to be enough of a tool to do it.
John 6:44
John 14:26
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you. >he will teach all things >he
Romans 8:26
Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. >but the Spirit himself >himself
Yes, cowardice is rampant and memoryholed from the public psyche, even applauded as some kind of bravery. It's brave to be a cuck that rolls over and embraces tyranny.
>“If ever it should happen that one of your people should sell his freedom, he is not of you, he is a bastard. I counsel you to expel him and his mother from the land. Repeat this to your children morning, noon and night, till they think of it in their dreams.”
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Context to that quote though...
Peter betrayed Jesus and not only was he forgiven, but he received eternal life and Jesus made him the foundation on which His church was built on. There aren't any circles in hell, everyones suffering on the same level.
>everyones suffering on the same level.
Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city! - Matthew 10:15
well, considering im a huge coward, and my life is kinda dogshit, i would like to agree, because all the problems can result in very big ones, if you are actually a huge figure in the social structure and not poor like me. This makes it less of a sin, but doesnt excuse this trait
>rebellion's bad, m'kay
If it's bad, why does it tend to lead to prosperity?
No kingdom was ever established by everyone dropping their weapons and agreeing to follow a single leader peacefully. Factions form, tribes join together and fight for territory, emperors get JFKed, and the result is prosperity. Rebellion is natural and unavoidable, you just happen to have been raised in prosperity so you have no reason to rebel, but that's not the norm. Most people who have something of value had to fight for it.
Couldn't you say,
Sin is unrighteousness for unrighteousness sake?
Or
Unrighteousness is sin for sins sake?
Believers fear the god will punish them if they make a mistake and become unrighteous through sin.
It is always in their thoughts.
That cancels the ability to think correctly.
COWARDICE IS THE ONLY TRUE SIN. FEAR OF THE TRUTH AND DENIAL OF WISEDOM AND KNOWLEDGE IS ALL ROOTED IN COWARDICE AND WEAKNESS. BE STRONG. EMBRACE THE TRUTH AND HUMANITY. GOOD WILL TRIUMPH
Depends if it is social shaming or self shaming.
The failure to stand up to the demons of this world.
It's still too abstract because they are as snakes hidden in the grass, so inability to stand-up leads to the same result. Can waxing Machiavellian add to the effectiveness of ability? Is Machiavellianism one of the demons of this world?
So is the greatest sin being ineffective? I say, if you can only be one thing "Be efficient."
Being efficient only matters if you have goals which aren't contrary to yourself. An efficient school shooter gets a high kill count but is still a miserable bastard until they shoot themself in the face.
lust
egoism
exploitation
however you want to say it - the base is considering yourself the central enjoyer of all existence
But who is to say that these things are not to the enjoyment of God?
Everything is to the enjoyment of God.
But YOU are trying to be the one to enj0oy them.
THAT is the sin - the desire, the attempt.
That it is impossible is not the point.
Well put
Then don't put me into this shithole to begin with.
Maybe you mistake God for a father figure like christcucks do? God is very abstract, trying to define or to deconstruct is to try to put boundaries on him, which is nonsensical. I don't it is impossible to understand God, but language doesn't seem to be enough of a tool to do it.
Who says I'm trying? I simply can't help but enjoy. Now, why does God's enjoyment preclude my involuntary enjoyment? Why would God be interested in ensuring my displeasure? Or a pleasure that is alien to me, on completely different terms? I find myself fulfilled as I am, and not out of animalistic nature; I see no need to follow whatever path you will prescribe to me.
Perhaps this desire (and the fulfillment thereof) is to his desire; we should ask God about what he wants from us individuals, and directly, rather than letting ruling dogmas or teachers tell us what to think. "Hylic" and "Psychic sense-dead" are just lies designed to keep you that way.
I love how this is the argument that you've settled on that in your deranged stupid evil moron mind is some kind of indisputable proof that God is good and humans are evil: the fact that God forces humans to exist in a world where forces them to suffer for his enjoyment then says they;re evil if they want to enjoy reality. In your stupid moron brain this is proof that God is good when in actuality it's proof that he's evil. the fact that God forces people to exist so that he can torture them for his enjoyment in a moronic hell world while telling them they're evil for wanting to enjoy reality is proof that God is evil you stupid moron.
Envy is the ultimate sin.
Blasphemy against the holy Spirit is the only unforgivable sin.
Like renaming it "holy spirit" instead of holy feminine.
John 14:26
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.
>he will teach all things
>he
Romans 8:26
Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words.
>but the Spirit himself
>himself
What are your quotes supposed to prove? That the lie has been written in text?
if you read the original greek new testament, the holy spirit is always referred to as “it” and “that,” because the word for spirit, “pneuma,” is a genderless noun. in greek, there are masculine, feminine, and genderless nouns. the only time the holy spirit is associated with masculine pronouns in the greek is when it is referred to with a different title, which so happens to be masculine: “parakletos.”
in the tanakh, or old testament, the holy spirit (“ruach hakodesh”) is always referred to as “she” and “her,” because spirit is a feminine noun in hebrew. (hebrew only has masculine and feminine nouns — no genderless.)
so what can we learn from this, since the “gender” of a noun doesn’t necessarily determine the gender of the person associated with the noun? look how “table” in spanish (la mesa) is feminine, but in french (le table) it is masculine?
well, we can at least learn that english and other modern translations of the new testament are simply wrong, since the translations always refer to the holy spirit as “he” and “him,” when in fact the majority if the time, the greek leaves it genderless.
what is the gender of the holy spirit?
the key is to look at genesis, where elohiym says “let us make mankind in our image; male and female [elohiym] created them.” in the hebrew text, it actually says “he” created them, but that is only because, again, elohiym is a masculine noun (and also plural, so it should really be “they,” if not for the oneness of god.)
also consider the so-called “allegorical” female character in the book of proverbs called “wisdom,” who co-creates the world with the father much like the holy spirit did in genesis, hovering over the face of the waters. the new testament claims that wisdom and knowledge comes from the holy spirit, and here in proverbs personified wisdom is the female consort to the father god.
to be continued…
… continued:
also, stop idolizing the new testament over the living god for a moment and consider how “the gospel according to the hebrews” written about in the apocrypha refers to the holy spirit as “mother.”
and lastly, ask yourself how there can be a father and a son without a mother?
and i’m not talking about mary, the earthly mother. i’m talking about the heavenly mother of the Son of the trinity — the Son who existed before time began.
the idea of the virgin birth is a greek/romanization of the real process by which the eternal Son came to dwell in the son of man. the virgin birth narrative is never mentioned by paul in any of his letters. it is a malicious lie or cultural misunderstanding based on roman and greek myths of gods like zeus and poseidon going around impregnating mortal women and birthing demigods.
the son of man is fully human and fully divine, not half human/half divine, and the holy spirit is his heavenly mother.
2 Corinthians 3:17
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
>the Lord is the Spirit
Ezekiel 36:27
And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.
>I will put my Spirit in you
>my Spirit
>Proverbs 9
Poetic first and foremost, but wisdom does not equate to the holy Spirit, the holy Spirit is the ultimate truth from God, and it is only through the holy Spirit that anyone can truly understand God.
1 Corinthians 1:20
Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?
The new testament is the word of the living God, so no; I will not stop going to it for answers, especially because it reflects the new covenant that is still standing, whereas the old covenant is no longer standing. The old has passed, the new has come.
>apocrypha
gnostic bullshit
>how can there be a father and a son without a mother
The Son is through the surrogate Mary, conceived by the holy Spirit. Though Jesus is LORD, and Jesus was with God in the beginning, before creation itself, because Jesus is God. No one created God. He was, is and is to come. There is no beginning, nor end to Him.
How do you understand that even? Just uttering bad words about what you don t even understand can t be enough, would be to big of a larp that only denominational morons would fall for. Might it refer to suicide?
It has nothing to do with saying bad words towards the Holy Spirit, nor does it have to do with suicide.
so basically orthodox atheistic materialism?
No. Try to really think about what it means. First, discern what the holy Spirit is, and what its purpose is.
Sin is greatest sin. And cowardice is relative to perception and perspective.
So I guess really, I'm asking you to define sin. If we're working from different definitions then we are bound to be miscommunicating.
1 John 3:4
Psalms 34:9
Matthew 10:28
John 6:44
Proverbs 9
Leaven is, for it is the word for sin
In what language?
Yes, cowardice is rampant and memoryholed from the public psyche, even applauded as some kind of bravery. It's brave to be a cuck that rolls over and embraces tyranny.
>“If ever it should happen that one of your people should sell his freedom, he is not of you, he is a bastard. I counsel you to expel him and his mother from the land. Repeat this to your children morning, noon and night, till they think of it in their dreams.”
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Context to that quote though...
Betrayal is the greatest sin according to Dante's Inferno and is at the 9th circle of hell.
Peter betrayed Jesus and not only was he forgiven, but he received eternal life and Jesus made him the foundation on which His church was built on. There aren't any circles in hell, everyones suffering on the same level.
>everyones suffering on the same level.
Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city! - Matthew 10:15
Newsflash, no one is in hell yet. The final judgment has yet to happen.
Where are they then? Purgatory? By that logic is there no one in heaven?
Read the Bible.
dead lions vs living dogs
well, considering im a huge coward, and my life is kinda dogshit, i would like to agree, because all the problems can result in very big ones, if you are actually a huge figure in the social structure and not poor like me. This makes it less of a sin, but doesnt excuse this trait
nah, there's active, willful, malevolence out there, but cowardice is definitely worse than it naively appears
Cowardice is self betrayal
Aren't you all cowards if you fear god?
Courage isn't the opposite of fear. Courage is the ability to withstand fear. You only have a need to stand up against unrighteous.
Foolishness is rebellion for rebellion's sake.
Bend over pussy
>rebellion's bad, m'kay
If it's bad, why does it tend to lead to prosperity?
No kingdom was ever established by everyone dropping their weapons and agreeing to follow a single leader peacefully. Factions form, tribes join together and fight for territory, emperors get JFKed, and the result is prosperity. Rebellion is natural and unavoidable, you just happen to have been raised in prosperity so you have no reason to rebel, but that's not the norm. Most people who have something of value had to fight for it.
"Disobedience is man's original virtue."
Paraphrasing Wilde.
Through disobedience, social change occurs.
Imagine is we all followed the rules without question.
A benefit to our rulers, oppression to the masses.
"A rule is only as good as it's ability to be enforced."
"The most meaningful rules are the ones we enforce ourselves."
Couldn't you say,
Sin is unrighteousness for unrighteousness sake?
Or
Unrighteousness is sin for sins sake?
Believers fear the god will punish them if they make a mistake and become unrighteous through sin.
It is always in their thoughts.
That cancels the ability to think correctly.
>understanding crime and punishment means you can't think correctly
It's impossible for you to understand anything.
Correct.
It's morons like you who think they're super intelligent that have ruined this board with your shit post spam.
Nah it’s pride
COWARDICE IS THE ONLY TRUE SIN. FEAR OF THE TRUTH AND DENIAL OF WISEDOM AND KNOWLEDGE IS ALL ROOTED IN COWARDICE AND WEAKNESS. BE STRONG. EMBRACE THE TRUTH AND HUMANITY. GOOD WILL TRIUMPH
Cowardice and Shame are auxiliaries to an even worse sin.
pride
nah, god is biggest coward there ever was
Yes. Without courage you cannot have any virtue needed to become a good person.