In Mahayana Buddhism, is it necessary that you can achieve samadhi during meditation to experience nirvana?

In Mahayana Buddhism, is it necessary that you can achieve samadhi during meditation to experience nirvana?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buddhism is gay. If the goal is dissolution and there's nothing beyond then whats the point of their practice? If all of this is an illusion, and nothing exists and... so how can they claim they are enlightened, everything here is illusion, so no getting enlightenment through creation itself, oh, but theres no creator, no nothing beyond this illusion also, so no getting knowledge from a superior source
    Buddhism is a waste of time. And it was already defeated thousands of years ago. But people still waste their time with it
    Stick to a religion thats actually religion. Not atheism for fricking hippies

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well that’s one way to declare your surface level knowledge

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anatman, anicca, shunyata
        What do i need to know? Its just nihilism. Spiritual suicide. Illusion
        Better to follow an actual theistic religion

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >nihilism
          Nihilism is a wrong view. You have a mediocre understanding of shunyata, you are a moron.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How buddhist of you
            So at least you can't teach by example
            Whatever you might know about precept
            The point is, i've studied it. And its a waste of time
            They don't accept the immortality of the soul, God, or an afterlife. So there's nothing to progress to by their own doctrine. Just undefined, impersonal peace or silence
            Better follow the path of unflinching unmotivated devotion to the ultimate reality the Supreme Godhead
            But why don't you try next time to defend your doctrine? Without personal attacks, please. Just logic and argument. Explain why creation comes from nothing and goes to nothing... but still we have to work for final dissolution, and how can we get enlightened on this phenomenical world of illusion, through the world of illusion itself, if there's nothing (i mean nothingness) beyond. If this is all illusion come from nothing, and beyond that there is nothing, and no higher causal power... except mind, because mind somehow creates... but that doesnt mean theres a higher power wah wah, its all ilusion, your own mind puts itself in illusion, but it also doesnt real wah wah
            This is all nonsense. Incoherent mess with no internal logic
            But we are wasting time here. Shankara already defeated you thousands of years ago

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nothing is immortal. Show me a single immortal thing.

        • 3 weeks ago
          SkankHunt42

          I would call Buddhism necrophilic rather than nihilistic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > If the goal is dissolution and there's nothing beyond then whats the point of their practice

      Getting to nirvana is an option. As is chasing your own tail in samsara.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >If the goal is dissolution and there's nothing beyond then whats the point of their practice

      pure ignorance.
      you are dissolving into the emptiness or great void.

      the equivalent abrahamcuck vocabulary would be - dissolving into the ineffable, becoming one with God (union), returning back to the Father.

      frick off unnuanced barbaric ape!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Insulting other religions is not very Buddhist.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Technically, yes. There are multiple samadhi's in Mahayana. They are held to be realized by multiple practices. A bodhisattva will achieve multiple samadhis through the 10 bhumi's. Some may be realized through a meta-practice like in Soto Zen or Shin Buddhism. The Mahāvyutpatti lists 118 different samādhis that are specified by name in the prajñāpāramitā sūtras. Some of the Pure Land traditions, the Chinese and Jodo Shu, seek to achieve the Amida Samadhi. Silent Illumination in Chan/Zen/Thien is an example as well. Some of the Pure Land traditions do focus on recitation only or as perquisite of the above samadhi though. Often these samadhis are meant to be a set up for other practices though. Pic is not a beginner friendly book but describes how this is understood.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks bro.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Ray Peat

    Samadhi is apparently one half of enlightenment it basically means concentration but also memory. For example past lives were the last thing buddha remembered before enlightenment. When you meditate you recall things you forgot and they teach you important lessons in perspective

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, why do you ask if that can be skipped? During meditation is not it, it has to be your normal state of being.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    SkankHunt42

    Introspection is the enemy of happiness

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No need to overcomplicate it.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd suck on the pussy and lick the toes.

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