How does one do it while surrounded by tragedy, monotony, and death?
This isn’t to say nothing positive happens in EMS but it appears the negatives outweigh the positives.
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How can I achieve/maintain spiritual fitness while working in EMS?
if you choose this vocation should you not already know your the only thing standing between more tragedy happening and lives saved?
That’s quite the spiritual burden to bear. Am I supposed to take pride in that? Be humble about it? What if I fail to save a life?
From the NDEs I’ve seen, you seem only partly responsible for people being saved. Yes, you do all the hard stressful work of keeping people alive but at some point they have to choose to come back to their bodies. Sometimes they just don’t want to.
This one has a bit on EMS’s
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This too, a bit less of a hippy grifter: https://youtu.be/gxU34Htvjl0?si=nmwx8r_8UJoxkbTy
Some of it i a matter of stance and psychology. You have to develop healthier regard of such things.
Pride is something one has to be careful about but you can find satisfaction in job done well. You can be pride in that you're happy you do important job, but be humble about it otherwise. Also, you have limited abilities - doing your best and working on yourself so you do well is what can be expected of you, otherwise it's out of your hands. While you should accept responsibility when it's needed, not every failure to meet one's goals is the person's failure. Sometimes things go beyond our control and shit happens. You may recognize and be sad for when it does without blaming yourself for it.
Otherwise, keep on meditating, clearing your thoughts. Perhaps read a bit on sphere of existences beyond our own - our lives are important to us by design and we should care of events in their boundaries, but it doesn't change the fact they're but a drop in the whole scope of our existence.
it you cant bear it try cabinet making.
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rest in peace 🙁
NO EMTS WERE PRESENT, DO YOU SEE NOW OP?!
I miss 21
if the tragic loss of life is something you wish to prevent you should considered a vocation as an emergency medical technician?
>tragic loss of life
Sad but it happens everyday, yeah? We're all here to die.
Protip: Don't say that when replying to a message in a dating app. People don't like to hear that shit.
Anyway, my first question for OP is is the company he works for a for-profit org? Because any for-profit medical service is shady from the drop. Those types want continuance and it doesn't not matter to them if the people they serve die or not. And that is bollocks imo.
It’s an EMS agency for the county so I’m not sure if that’s for-profit
I'm planning on becoming an emt and wonder this alot.
There was a time last year I saved an neonate from choking, it was scary and disgusting, but I felt amazing I actually sved his life and it gave me purpose in life.
Similar to sar operations: compartmentalization and practising to be an emotional athlete. You need your autonomous drills, practice and execution to perform well under the pressure but also plan moments of deflation for yourself where you allow your body to feel fully the emotions that you hold back or keep inside while under pressure.
Your emotions are going to be spikes of relief and stress for a very long time and that will eventually wear you down. That requires a strategy for the short and long term. You need your team and connections and good communication and avoid cropping it up. Also read up on compassion/critical care fatigue. Lots of caretakers can also develop black humour or other things to cope with
That all sounds like a lot of work. Instead, you could just see yourself as a cog in the great machine of life. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Life is not perfect and this world is full of suffering. You do the best you can with what you have.
>That all sounds like a lot of work. Instead, you could just see yourself as a cog in the great machine of life.
it's a little more complicated than that, because your imagination is not the same as your emotional system and different people have different psychological effects. You can't just "just imagine yourself as x" some of those problems away.
Fair. The simplicity of message hides the complexity of the path. Involves a lot of work on the self.
>Fair. The simplicity of message hides the complexity of the path. Involves a lot of work on the self.
I understand, my own journey in life made me very emotionally and mentally tough, but there are still things I wish I'd known or acknowledged sooner. I ended up feeling like a robot at some point and while that helped for me to excel in some areas the price was having less to give in other areas.
You need to have a strong mind/spirit.
You should understand that good/bad doesnt exist outside of the will.
Nothing external can affect you when you have correct knowledge.
>good/bad doesn’t exist outside of the will
Are you saying good and bad are merely man-made concepts and the universe is actually indifferent?
duh lol theres no lovin daddy up there, we're just moving meat that evolved from proteins
There is more to existence than chemicals and proteins. I refuse to hold this simplistic view; how do you explain consciousness?
why do you believe consciousness is any more special then that when its been reduced to neuron structures and neurotransmitters? any imbalance in those chemicals severely alters "consciousness", as does a physical change in structure, suggesting consciousness is 100% material
no experiment has verified any kind of "disembodied consciousness" or "ghost in the machine"
Explain lucid dreams then. How can your consciousness enter a fricking dream, which is considered to be made up of metaphysical thoughts, if it is all just some neurons? The catch is, nobody can explain it.
i dont know what there is to explain besides your visual cortex firing funny lol
dreams come from the brain
See! you cant even go into full details about it. That is not an argument. Which confirms the paranormality about it. And we all know lucid dreams are real... it's like you become a master of the simulation, for a temporary time. I've had one back in 2022. I got up from my bed, looked at my hands and BOOM. I just "entered" my dream, like you know how when you look at a glass window, no matter how close you get to the glass, you will always see that barrier the glass puts? That's what it felt like. Like that barrier of glass was taken away. Through some sort of unintended consequence of cause and effect
no, its just that theres truly nothing special about a fricking dream.
i mean its literally just nonsense noise your brain tries to make sense out of.
Hey! Dont mis-represent it. IM TALKING ABOUT LUCID DREAMS, Not just dreams. which is where your ducking consciousness enters said dream. If it's just shit noise how can your fricking conscious enter it? By your materialistic point of view, if consciousness is made up by some part of the brain, and dreams are made up by some other part. Something would cause the flow of those 2 parts to come together by some cause and effect. Which causes you to enter the dream as if it was literally your video game
This homie never meditated or took psychedelics haha
>meditation
>just sit quiet until youre so bored you start having waking dreams
actual waste of time
why are you on a paranormal board trying to convince people who believe in the supernatural that "le hecking cold hard truth and muh science" is going to hurt us?
because I'm waiting for the epic materialism killer silver bullet
Are you open to the idea that not everything can be quantified through modern science experiments?
maybe but I'd have my guard way up to anything presented like that from the getgo, since anything that can be observed measured recorded and repeated fits
Very hard without a higher level of self realization. People choose their own lives, there are no accidents, their higher selves have perfect control over their own lives as humans.
Knowing this and seeing no victims still exposes you to the fricked up energies, ask yourself if you should quit.
Indifference would be hateful, the universe is unconditionally loving.
This isn't a main or important point, but I find it interesting that you put 'monotony' on par with and in between tragedy and death
Are you a Christian, anon?
No, I consider myself a pantheist
Just look at yourself as a type of biological robot repair/removal serviceman.
I like this, although it seems a tad reductionist
You have to focus on creating positive energy to these challenges. Research NDEs on how. Indeed, NDEs are actually irrefutable proof that heaven really is awaiting us all because (1) people see things during their NDEs when they are out of their bodies that they should not be able to under the assumption that the brain creates consciousness, and (2) anyone can have an NDE and everyone is convinced by it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U00ibBGZp7o
So any atheist or materialist or agnostic would be too if they had an NDE, so pic related is literally irrefutable proof of life after death. As one NDEr pointed out:
>"I'm still trying to fit it in with this dream that I'm walking around in, in this world. The reality of the experience is undeniable. This world that we live in, this game that we play called life is almost a phantom in comparison to the reality of that."
If NDEs were just hallucinations then extreme atheists and neuroscientists who had NDEs would agree that they were halluinations after having them. But the opposite happens as NDEs convince every skeptic when they have a really deep NDE themselves.
Also, once you know death is wonderful, it is way less of a big deal to see it all the time.
a dream is irrefutable proof?
>How can I achieve/maintain spiritual fitness while working in EMS?
You know your cohorts that do the evil shit like drive out the reserve to pick up fentanyl laced drugs to help sell in town? Turn them in, help the public crucify all these worthless pieces of garbage that betray ua all.
I’ve never heard of this before. I think you’re confusing EMS with police
“The profession you’ve chosen is a noble one but you know you’ll wind up a lot like the boatmen do that ferry souls from this life to the next. You’ll grow cold, there is no way around that, to do the job properly, you’ll have to compartmentalize or you’ll surely be drive mad. You must find a way to keep that one foot of yours that is noble and loves others firmly planted on your island of humanity while the sea throws everything its got at you throughout it all. I think you can do it, if you can balance that. Many have stood where you are at throughout the ages with all forms of medicine's to aid the physical forms as your spirit navigates it through its journey.”
Try twenty minutes or more daily prayer. Helps with everything spiritual.
Be a shining light in the dark
Smile, anon, you have done the best you can, and will hopefully continue to do so. I’m sure everyone is grateful in the end
Realize that you are mired in a system of engineered human suffering and either continue on that path or leave and find peaceful work elsewhere, if you truly believe in this system that holds 'work' in higher regard than it does living itself. Those who are in true need of assistance will get it, and I imagine that such a job is important but personally I could not do it.
Do the right thing and stop using narcan on the frickin homeless.
This, that 'harm reduction' shit needs to frick off. Chronically homeless would be better off dead imo. Sure, kids make mistakes so save them once or twice but if they can't get it together then wtf. 50, 60, 70+ homies on the street? Hell naw, it is amazing they have survived that long.
Protocol says I gotta help anyone in need breh
By realising that you are performing a self sacrifice. You are sacrificing some of yourself, to elevate the tragedy and suffering you experience from being put onto ordinary people that may not be able to handle it.
When you bring a heart attacking old woman to the hospital, you're stopping her kids, her grandkids from seeing her white, with flies and bloating. She may die and you'll feel her death heavy but in taking the brunt of the trauma, you take that from many many many more people.
You are singlehandedly, responsible for the wellbeing and sanity of everyone you've saved and the families of those that didn't make it.