Every day thousands of creatures experience a horrible, grueling, bloody, painful death.
How does anyone think god is kind?
Every day thousands of creatures experience a horrible, grueling, bloody, painful death.
How does anyone think god is kind?
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I dont see anywhere it says God is kind. Kindness and love are two totally separate concepts
Then maybe God, if it exists, isn't kind.
But kindness is very related to love. If you love something, you will generally be kind to it and would protect it from suffering.
glowie's getting rekt
God is death and life. God is everything. Would you be happy with a utopia where you dont need to achieve anything which makes life pointless?
>utopia where you dont need to achieve anything
that's what heaven is supposed to be, isn't it?
Careful. You'll gives these guys cognitive dissonance. They simultaneously say existence without suffering is meaningless and that heaven won't have suffering and yet it's the ultimate goal.
The energy spectrum goes to worthless fields indeed.
>Would you be happy with a utopia where you dont need to achieve anything which makes life pointless?
Do you truly not see anything in-between? Predatory and parasitic behaviors are not the only ones. Even they can be perfected; predatory and violent behaviors to the rule of cool.. and parasitic to the erotic maximum, purity its nemesis. Then the conflict is eternalized and/or fulfilled.
Right now all human and animal fights appear amateurish and sloppy because of our interactions with the realms of fiction (memory); the downgraded reality-show finally visible.
That it is, sick. It's changing genres though. And some energies are barred, sickness among them.
Yes? That sounds tight as hell. Spend all day with my family reading, vidya, laying in the sun, playing with my children, making music, napping.
Sounds pretty great.
no one would write books
no one would make vidya
no one would make music
A true utopia is a ephemeral pretense of life without meaning.
What are you talking about? The only times I'm ever inspired to work on creative projects is not only when I have the requisite free time but also when I don't feel the burdens of society's trappings on my shoulders. Yes, some responsibility is necessary but the overreaching system of control we slave under absolutely hinders creativity, motivation, and connectedness with other people.
Utopia is simply the global population waking up to the fact that they're already perfect and thus chasing dangling carrots on sticks (money, resources, status, sex) only brings transient happiness with a neverending side-effect of insecurity. You don't need to be slaving away for these things to find meaning. That's just slave-minded.
Yes, I would
yes if i can smoke weed and enjoy the warmth of the sun all day while eating yummy fruit and looking at pretty girls
Isn't that Heaven you just described?
A WHEN WE BECOME GODS THAT STRIDE THE EARTH
EVER GRACEFUL IN OUR STEPS
IN GRATITUDE TO OUR FOREBEARERS
All of the other animals eating them reeeeeally enjoy it so much that it makes it worth it. Eating those animals makes life worth living and we all keep going.
it's a sick perfect balance
Life requires death, and the continuation of life requires killing and eating. This fallen state is a logical necessity of temporal existence. Fortunately God was kind enough to program shock into our system, a reflex that essentially turns off pain at the time when your body recognizes death is near.
This isn't true at all. Shock is when you lose consciousness due to a sudden loss in blood pressure. Your heart being unable to beat gravity because of the decreased blood pressure and your blood can't get to your brain which causes you to pass out after a few seconds.
There's no built-in system in your body since there's no reason for such a thing to evolve.
Shock doesn't always result in a loss of consciousness, and it can inhibit the perception of pain. So can the fight or flight response.
You say that like it's a rule above even God when if God exists he is the reason we have to kill to live.
god is god.
its not unstandable.
its like trying to unstand why justice keeps the 10 laws and obessive over the 2 tablets of laws.
psycosis from it even.
just there or something.
god does things becuase things exist or something
this isn't god doing it though its the demiurge who thinks they are him.
who the frick cares , i'm nether and i don't care.
i just got rekt by one of them once.
i'm sure it was all big missunderstanding or something.
god hired me to do the bad stuff, and things happen, and it just happpens to be bad.
but like not my fault, no free will at all or even thinking different. yep keep blaming him and not me and we'll get along just fine.
>even if its total bullshit cope. by OP the homosexual.
>Still believes in free will
Because your subjective feelings are temporary and you get what you deserve
>there are a thousand creatures here in this experience
Yeah?
>Every day thousands of creatures experience a horrible, grueling, bloody, painful death.
This shit is crazy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_attack
And we have to live on waiting to find out what way we're going to die rather than a peaceful planned death like we get to give our pets.
those creatures are also God
its Gods self sacrifice, they are Christ, and so are you and me, and all that "suffers"
Every day thousands of creatures experience great things too. God is everything, not something
Do you think that God somehow claims that you'll have a pain free life/death?
And if 'God' doesn't exist then who tf should answer for YOUR pain?
>blaming god for the actions of another
The chances of making it: not high.
More of the same bs posting. Yes the demiurge is terrible. Ignore the plights of lesser beings and focus on your own spiritual cultivation. Just remember: never go to Denver.
God is Unconscious.
When you're everything, you can't have a "self" or even "archetypes" because you're fricking everything.
There's no way to be conscious without a "self" and the only way to be conscious is to separate from the infinite unconscious. Thus, all potentials become a single potential once Chaos marries Void and produces a ring of light which is now "you". The ring representing the potential of your life, a symbol of both all and nothing, the Ouroboros.
His mind is higher than mine.
I know that God exists and that he is Jesus Christ.
No emotional response is going to bring me away from that faith.
Life and Death don't care
They don't die, they just Are
They were here before time started running, they will be here after time runs out
you'll also die at some point, and born anew in another, but this doesn't mean time is linear when you're dead
just enjoy the ride man, whatever short it is, don't try to find a too deep meaning into it, it's not as it'll change the world in a fundamental way isn't it? I mean for that you'll have to prove something so big, so life-changing it'll change the whole species in this timeline, forever, and I'd say good luck about that we have gotten too good at sweeping things under the rug and... I'm rambling isn't it, whatever I'll shut up before I frick myself
good luck with your ride fellow human, and most importantly have fun!
>what is conflict at one level of magnification is harmony at a higher level
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Not everything is godly, sometimes things are not good and need to be improved.
How can things be improved?
See the thing is that you're deeply brainwashed by Christianity so you automatically assume this realm is created by God. And nothing will make you change that opinion since it's deep-rooted. Even people who don't believe in God (atheists) think God created this realm. They think they are arguing hypothetically that God created this realm, and that they are just citing scripture. But they're not, they are brainwashed as well by Christianity that God created this realm.
In the West, Christianity has done so much damage that you can't escape from it. Now take note here that the Christian RELIGION was superimposed on Jesus Christ. In other words Jesus Christ has been hijacked by a religion created by the ego. And that's too bad.
What are you brainwashed by?
So you believe Jesus's message but not Christianity as an organized religion?
Well yeah. Bacchus cults are awesome. Sprinkle some Orpheus in there for flavor, a little prometheus for spice
good shit
as above, so below
life was fake and gay
death was fake and gay
what does it matter
I don't. If i created a world it would not have this suffering.
thats why you will never be a God. you dont get the importance of the ying yang
If God has to be subservient to this yin yang, then he's not the ultimate arbiter of existence.
What if we just kinda suck a bit
Well their death is the end.
You experience reality and know not what comes next.
Most things die pretty quickly. I hope I go with only a few minutes of suffering
You're presenting the audience with an ultimatum that would be near impossible for the audience to answer. The manner in which you phrase your question is a loaded question because it only lets the audience answer according to the terms of your premise. Individuals I encounter who provide people they are talking to with impossible ultimatums are not trustworthy and do this to get the conversant to resolve their personal issues for them. Why do we have to resolve your personal issues why can't you do that shit yourself you sorry frick?
Experiencing a frogpost is worse than any of that.
A horrible death is only terrible in the context of being followed by oblivion. If it's not the end of their consciousness, it's not that serious.
Also you can't have free will without suffering.
>horrible, grueling, bloody, painful death
It's all just a matter of perception. If an animal being eaten alive was to be described to you on a molecule by molecule basis, and it's shrieks explained to you in terms of only hz and waves, you would fall asleep long before you were horrified.
who cares about animals lol
I do.
you actually think you aren't an animal? off yourself anon
God isn't here. Our purpose is to find Him, not for Him to save us.
The womb of creation (call it God if you will) is experiencing itself through you, through all of us. It will never directly intervene or help you in any way or form. Below that are the archons which rule from outside of this construct and indirectly influence this creation; they won't help you either unless you align yourself with their will and certain aspects creation.
There is one more set of creators which are here on earth with us since the very beginning and they have nested themselves below the ground from where they directly influence this creation and govern all higher affairs of humanity. The chances that these will help you are close to negative zero, as their number one priority is to remain hidden.
tldr; nobody is coming to help you
>The womb of creation (call it God if you will) is experiencing itself through you, through all of us. It will never directly intervene or help you in any way or form
Why is that? Is it not capable of helping us, or does it not care to help us? Intervening with us would just be another way of the womb of creation experiencing itself, wouldn't it?
Flawed reality god didn’t make it. But if he did he purposely made it so. It is absent for most of the time surely until something catches its attention.
The one this we don’t under stand is that we are in the middle where light can seep and be present thus stars and black holes. There is a darkness where death reigns incomprehensible to life on this existence just as there is a light incomprehensible to everyone here
God is not kind. Gos is good, God is loving, but God is not kind.
God isn't on Earth. Has nothing to do with it.
I believe God allows himself to be taken to "trial" by his creation, to be held accountable for his choices.
>This was performed through his incarnation into Christ.
>Elie Wiesel, a holocaust survivor, said he would spend the rest of his life accusing God for what happened to him, but feeling still that God exists.
>If you've ever played an RPG, you would know that very often you make hard decisions for the greater good (Baldur's Gate 3).
>God is like the ultimate RPG player, making the hardest choices which really are the best.
>In time we will have a chance to speak with God (in the day of our judgment) and everything becomes clear.
Another "I don't understand God's reasoning so he must be le evil" thread
Mans conception of God/Divinity is partial and fragmentary.
Is there a way for us to discover more of God's nature?
Trust me, I tried, I was feeling like I could understand everything, I knew the answer of everything in my knowledge and was discovering the nature of this amazing world.
I was able to do crazy stuff like connectng my mind(soul) with others, it's not telepathy or talking directly through internal speech.
But my mind was over heating and I was unable to do simple tasks like sleeping or eating normally with my faimly.
After 5 or 6 days it was too much, I made them sitdown and told them about the nature of God, but they didn't listen. They took me to a hospital and injected me with something(I dont know what) that made my brain shut and made me sleep, the next week flew by and I hardly have any memory of what happened in those times.
Now I've returned to my normal self, just regular human with nothing but the story to share anonymously.
Oh, how bad I wish that I wrote what I knew.
But now I can't really do anything, can I?
But I hope if any of you guys get the mind that I had, please write everything down, and beware of the evil satanic organizations.
the only path to the father is jesus, because we are separated by sin.
https://kingjames.bible/Job-1
Research NDE's. A lot of people say that you are met with an eternal peace and love when you die.
Le archon memory insertion
What better way to trick someone into reincarnating?
The wages of sin are death
Animals face the worst of it and don't deserve this.
If I say "over one million Sudanese people will starve to death in a civil war brought on by Western imperialism" nobody bats an eye, because it's all part of the plan.
But if I say one, tiny little colonial ethnostate will get attacked and have hostages taken on October 7th - well then EVERYONE LOSES THEIR MINDS LOL!
society
They are not upset after some time has passed, eternal love takes a while to integrate.
It goes away too though. Nothing is permanent. Life ebbs and flows as does your consciousness along with it.
Realizions last for life those can't be lost, receiving samples is common those vanish.
Realizations may last but discipline wanes even in the most devout.
Discipline is needed for the next realization and not to enjoy the previous ones. Eventually the need to meditate vanishes and joy is felt daily no matter what.
The nature of life is a struggle between order and chaos. Good and evil. At times, what must be done to maintain order is not at all nice, or kind. Love of what is right and good, not endless 'forgiving' and permissive love should be a guide to your actions
Imagine thinking humans evolved to live in an orderly fashion. Nature is absolutely chaotic and thrives as such. Humans attempt to create order and are miserly for it (because nothing is permanent - you have to learn to let go and surrender to the flow of life, ala daoism, if you want to personally thrive).
Someone has to lose in order for another to thrive.. A plant or animal will have to die and/or suffer so that humans or other species of animals could survive. Someone has to end up poor & suffer poverty for others to get rich. This is seemingly how the game of Life as we know it, was created. If anyone wants to break free & blaze their own trail to create a new system, they are dealt with & quite possibly, eliminated. So what does it all mean? It means that everyone is brought up or conditioned, by design, in a way to act in their own self-interest. As one would act as such, —it may or may not align with another’s self-interest. It’s a win-lose game. A gladiator pitched against the other in the stadium, fomenting divisiveness. This is the cruel game that the designer of this sadistic world enjoys. Once we understand this, it is easier to see why someone would have acted in the way that they did, even though it was immoral and selfish. And it becomes easier to forgive them.
Life is about power and domination. Dominate or be dominated, I strive to be the cause of as many of those "horrible, grueling, bloody, painful deaths" you speak of. Because I am a dominant life form, and anything weaker than me is my b***h and lives only because of my mercy.
that's what masons/satanists want us to think
Really Randians and stuff.
Not really, we want to assume God is a good in a perfect way. There is no expectation that we are god like that. God is also the maker of everything in some sense.
You're just an ape and you'll die scared and alone like the rest of us.
>postures on EerieWeb
i'm scared
I think God secretly thinks like that.
Life is not only about power and domination, there is much more to life than that. Also your thinking is very primitive. You will just attract negative and evil people with that thinking, including people who will want to dominate you.
This is a really good development on the experiential problem of evil.
Explain
It's hypocritical to say that God is immoral for wild animal suffering while yourself paying for domesticated animal suffering
Go vegan
Horrible, grueling deaths are not inherently unkind
because we live in a fallen world
it's in genesis, Eve ate the apple and Adam followed her
Gods favor the strong.
born after Challenger, born before 9/11
don't have a cow, man
What about those who experience intense pleasure and amazing joy? How can anyone think God is unkind?
God is like you and me in the sense that He has a personality. God can be kind if He wants. Let's say you kiss his ass a lot and He likes you. He probably will be kind to you. Let's say you don't kiss His ass then He doesn't like you very much. What os stopping him from being an butthole with you?
God can be kind. It does not mean that He's kind with everyone. God has favorites.
was the Father kind to Jesus when he sacrificed His Only Begotten Son? Be like Christ on the Cross. The Cross is sufficient proof against Gnosticism. It's the function that takes privation (evil) and brings us to something Good
>and Every Day God gives them a respawn
Sounds like the best God.
My Lord Jesus Christ, we must slay Lucifer and his legion of demons and bring glory to the kingdom of God. We cannot allow Fallen Angels to exist and any non humans must be purged. Humans are the master race. We will be slain if we do not retaliate. They are responsible for our suffering after giving us the magic technology and creating an Earth where we are slaves. If this fails I will become a Space Alien and kill the demons until I slay Lucifer with the power of Jesus Christ
how can npcs not walk outside and see nature and life? stop looking at the israelite numbers on your israelite device you dumb npc Black person. look around. nature and life happened. it was corrupted too. God allowed that. why? the great filter.
Cope