Did anyone else conclude from meditation or self inquiry that the most obvious meaning of life is to realise love is the only true emotion ?
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Did anyone else conclude from meditation or self inquiry that the most obvious meaning of life is to realise love is the only true emotion ?
No but I just realized who/what God is. God is what you experience. What you see, what you hear, what you feel, what you taste, what you smell at any given moment. God is All. It is impossible for God to be Nothing.
Every example you gave is of an object for you to exploit. Not one of them even suggests the personhood of the Supreme.
It's like saying "my wife is a pair of breasts I motorboat, and a womb for making babies." "My child is a source of labor and a way to cement my own legacy."
You have no love you have use.
>exploit
How about accept anon? God gives you in abundance and only asks for your belief that he'll make things better if you just trust him, and frankly thats pretty accurate, life goes better when you listen to that voice that says to do the right thing,
So is God your experience or a being that can make your life better?
Wholly an experience, God is not a being, Christ was though, he was a man of flesh and bone, God is a force though, that which caused, I worry sometimes God gave us free will but not itself
You limit God to nonbeing because an energy can be exploited, while a Person needs to be considered.
Your understanding doesn't even reach human levels of love. You "love" like a cat, where the moment there is problem you eat God's face.
You speak of the unknowability of God, but we are focused on YOU, and your lack of love.
Okay, I concede I exploit God, I realize I didnt read through your post correctly, though it doesnt really change that much imo, I could do better with how I show love for my creator, Im still just as thankful im loved
We are all imperfect in our love, it's why we are here. There are many ways to express our attempts at returning to love, and that is really what God wants, for us to try, to show a purified,spiritual desire free of self-interest.
>Id be annoyed
The Bhakti-rasamrita-sindh (Nectar of divine love) talks about paradoxical emotions used to express love, such as love expressed in anger or yes - annoyance.
A mother may get pissed at having to keep cleaning up her kids' mess, but it is precisely because she loves them that she cares about the mess, cares about the kids, and will still clean up the mess.
I appreciate you approaching my words with sincerity, I feel like we are both on the same page but with the general angst of the site I misread and just started barking like a dog, many apologies and I wish you a fantastic day, thank you for helping me learn about god a little more 🙂
When you die, you will remember all that you experienced here. Life is meant to put limits on God’s true love so that you may appreciate it that much more when you go back.
Those that suffer the most while here, had become spoiled by God’s love and are here to be reminded how good they have it. Yin/Yang
imagine having to pee really really bad, like about to burst. That is what all suffering is like. When you die, it’s like you finally let go and pee to your hearts content, surging with all the good feelings all at once. Eventually your bladder is empty and you are thirsty again.
>only asks for
And that is all you give? Does that sound like love to you? Someone gives you everything and you can only think of the bare minimum, and only then because it will get better FOR YOU.
If God came and said "I need everything from you, and you will get nothing," do you love them enough to give it?
Do you only love your kids if they make you proud and care for you when you age?
You speak of love from a human standpoint, God doesnt love you how you love people, God wants everyone at there best potential spiritually as to welcome you home, we dont know all the nuances to "the plan" or if God even has the freedom to make his own decisions
>welcome you home
What if God asked you to never come home, would you do it? If God asked you forever remain away, and only help others come home - would you hate God for that?
Your love is conditional and dependent on your own reward.
>O almighty Lord, I have no desire to accumulate wealth, nor do I desire beautiful women, nor do I want any number of followers. I only want Your causeless devotional service birth after birth.
Note that Lord Chaitanya says "birth after birth". No request for mukti, for salvation, for coming home. Unconditional love does not consider results for self.
>I know no one but Krishna as my Lord, and He shall remain so even if He handles me roughly by His embrace or makes me brokenhearted by not being present before me. He is completely free to do anything and everything, for He is always my worshipful Lord unconditionally.
This is accurate, I wouldnt hate God persay, but Id be annoyed I couldnt be with them in their kingdom, but I would still trust they know what their doing
Yes, creation begins through manifestation of an environment and then lifeforms to inhabit it and then the lives and perceptions of said life forms in the environment
Love is treacherous. It will use you and toss you like a used condom. Instead be practical and make dat money and study dat math.
Just imagine if Jesus' love was expressed in the same way.
>Only going to do the bare minimum for you people, and only if my life will get better by doing it.
No and im extremely loving i discovered i have an equal amount of hate. Wishy washy
>love is the meaning of life
>life requires killing and eating other life
nice universe you got there, dipshit.
Samsara and the material universe is where love DOESNT rule, but unfeeling, apathetic physics.
We come here because we wanted to stop loving God, and God allows this because despite the slap in the face, He loves us and will give us what we want.
No. Because hatred is a perfectly rational and necessary emotion to things that threaten the things you love. You can't just say "love is good" and "hate bad" because we do not live in a sterile test tube environment. We live in a messy fricked up world with horrors beyond your comprehension.
nope but enjoy your sunday anon
we have all emotions for gods good reasons!
God is Love. Love, by it's nature, cannot help but share itself, so God creates infinite Creation, so He can love it infinitely.
Evolution doesn’t explain why fruits/vegetables exist. Yes its an evolutionary advantage to get eaten and spread your seeds in soil/poop, but why? Why would a fruit know or care if it’s population is dying out. Why does “it” feel the need to survive? What is “it”?
how does a fruit know how to evolve or what to evolve into? There has to be an outside observer, like a “Grand mother apple” that is connected to all the apple trees in existence at the very least, “witnessing” what happens during death and what it took to live what it lived. Call that “grand mother apple” DNA or the god of apples or whatever you want, there is something experiencing death and rebirth from a third person perspective.
Maybe there isn’t an outside observer, perhaps our suffering is encoded into our dna while we’re still alive and changes our offspring while we’re still alive. Say you had a kid at 16, nearly got killed multiple times by the time you’re 30, you have a another kid. There would be a change in dna or something between your two kids, the one born later would be more likely to survive whatever nearly killed you, the one born younger would be just as susceptible as you were when you were 16.
Still doesn’t explain *why* our “dna” or whatever it is inside of us all, that *wants to* survive so badly?
changed my mind, there has to be some sort of time paradox or outside observer, or else we would only care about our own suffering. Why would our dna care about what happens to our children (not their dna) to try to prevent them from suffering? There had to be some sort of backwards transmission of suffering from child to parent at some point. Otherwise, there is an outside observer.
>Why would a fruit know or care if it’s population is dying out. Why does “it” feel the need to survive?
It's not about caring.
The machines that did not have "make another one" in their programming - SURPRISE - didnt make any more, and so they arent around.
explain this one. How would the transmission of “take care of your children or we will die” get transmitted into an already living being, assume you can go back to the original progenitors if you want.
I believe most reptiles abandon their young right? Why do they abandon their young to fend/learn for themselves, but we do not?
I actually just looked up a nice video summarizing one theory. I have tried to timestamp it to just the info, skipping past the "creationists are wrong and dumb" part.
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Basically - you can get lipid (fatty molecules) containers that can grow, divide, and trap proto-RNA material inside of it all purely through physical and chemical processes - absolutely no life needed - which can lead to RNA strands that replicate and are more durable in persistence than others.
The video is from 2008, so I bet there has been alteration as things are tested, or perhaps the theory has been wholly rejected, but it is an interesting hypothesis nonetheless.
thanks for taking me seriously, just chatting to my own thoughts for the most part and thinking more about this as I go. This is one thought I just had
ah frick, having children is like having savepoints in a game. The meaning of life is to live as long as possible while saving the game as much as you possibly can.
having children extends your life as you will have more people to help hunt/cook/heal for you. So someone at some point mustve had lots of kids, try to get as many of them to survive as possible and so they lived longer than their parents/community thanks to having all the extra help for food/etc. These people learned that more children living longer means higher rate of their own survival and passed it down to their own young either through communication or genetics.
Not love
Compassion
True love is unavailable for us here. It's all encompassing. It's devouring. True love manifests as hate here.
But compassion is the bridge between this plane and the next. It's the feeling you need to work on to evolve further.
But this plane is rejecting it, falling further from it. Soon, this entire realm will degrade drastically.
You deserve to know. The only souls left here are the rejects from last harvest. We did not make it. Because we can't be compassionate. Not to others.
But more importantly to ourselves.
Please, have compassion to yourself. Love who you are completely.
Devour yourself.
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Physical body is only a shell, what we are is being of light or we are electromagnetic being with a shell, love is our home our heaven is where we naturally dwell, but we forgot about it.