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Feel free to AMA
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I have a treasure trove of occult secrets and shit posts
Feel free to AMA
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>up in the club
there's no such thing as enlightenment, only puffed up egos with delusional schizophrenia caused by hallucinogens. there is no secret, that is the true enlightenment
I can’t achieve it so it must be fake
FTFY
tell me what the secret is when you're enlightenment. also, you're not so humble for being enlightened, aka the puffed up ego I mentioned. everyone says they're enlightened, but they never can say what they were enlightened with or by. also, an enlightened person doesn't make ama on EerieWeb with barely any context beyond being a 'mystic', you used a vague term so you can larp without effort.
I can never give you wisdom but I can give you understanding you won’t take it though cause you’re not here for that
tell me then
Start here
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36592736/
>can never say what they were enlightened with or by
God
Pretty sure it's the same answer everywhere else IDK who you're talking to.
Kek he’s just shouting in the void :p
No one is enlightened, as the one who finds enlightenment is not the one who experiences it. Imagine if someone were to see the ocean for the first time, bask in its glory, and then go home to a village that had never seen the ocean. I found the ocean! She tells everyone. So they ask her, what did you find?
>I'm not sure, but it's big!
>It's beautiful!
>I felt so at peace, seeing my place along side it
So, what's the secret then? Remembering the ocean, and making sure to return.
Or you know guiding people towards it so they can exsperience it themselfs
For sure, who doesn't want to bring their friends to the beach?
Exactly and we’re all frens here even the un-frens
I agree, though I try not to push evangelization. It easily becomes a disservice. Ultimately the requirement of faith means people must find their own way by searching, and knowledge before someone is ready to even begin only hinders such a search.
I like to think people gatekeep themselfs from knowledge they’re not quiet ready for or that isn’t aligned to there path for better or worse
A farmer went out to sow his seed. 4 As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path, and the birds came and ate it up. 5 Some fell on rocky places, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly, because the soil was shallow. 6 But when the sun came up, the plants were scorched, and they withered because they had no root. 7 Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up and choked the plants. 8 Still other seed fell on good soil, where it produced a crop—a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown. 9 Whoever has ears, let them hear.”
That happens, and then they steal themselves from it. I'm not talking about dissolution in the wrong hands or something like that, I'm talking about the skeptics who see no reason to walk all the way to the sea, so to speak. They should be made curious, not informed.
Information should spark curiosity otherwise you get fools lost in smoke instead of fools lost in divinity
I don’t manipulate via fairytale to hope one makes it to true tale I show how beautifully connected everything is and if that does not spark curiosity then that is not for you
Right, but not all information strikes intrigue, and often people are inherently biased against types of information. For this reason I can't condone a 1 size fits all approach to spreading curiosity. Pointing out connections probably works with some people; I hope you've had success at least. The only sure fire approach though, is one that comes from understanding another's perspective.
So, to bring this full circle, I'm a huge hypocrite. After all, I only skimmed this thread and asked no questions. For that reason though, I tried to say as little as possible. Sharing enlightenment is important, but for someone who doesn't understand it at all that point can come later.
As I mentioned before to your point some people gatekeep themselfs
And this isn’t for everyone
But luckily there are a million paths to take and this is not being forced on anyone
Also you can never deal yourself off from divinity as it is all divine and divinity can’t be put in a box it is the box and what people do with that box is perfectly fine wether it be playing in the mud or finding there true self
Only thing that really matters is the golden rule
>this is not being forced on anyone
I wish that were always true, but I understand your point. Even given dung you can make a home and a garden, or you can make a waste pit. Which you end up with is hardly the fault of the dung or where it came from.
Thanks for the chat.
what happened to the first 42 men who went behind the moon?
I believe china is attempting to do that but it has yet to happen outside of sci fi which people often confuse for reality like flat earthers
MeTAtron's MAtriX3x3 OM'E...
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I see you Mirror Mirror I see me wisdoms wisdom's wisdoms unconditional love and forgiveness is key EnKi
Back to math posting owo
Shame the average iq here is like 80
cosmic donut
Isn’t it delicious
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THE BOSS MONEY!
Given I’m at the point in my own journey where I’m asking this question in this way, could you point me to the next step you would take if you were me?
Idk where you are at so I can only hope to harmonize via the invisible river
Give these a watch
First https://youtu.be/iDG65ESEqZk?si=AFMtXxhVH2mAAsbr
Second https://youtu.be/Etz2Kgtev5w?si=HtPISC0NINFpcn4p
Then these on enlightenment
Short version https://youtu.be/F_MIw4KG7Qk?si=9-EIH_hVJHS5t3OJ
Long version https://youtu.be/-bgWnzjONXE?si=ZeEgfD4Lzq0oUYtb
Give this a watch aswell https://youtu.be/fXW-QjBsruE?si=UL4EkzUji7NNHqnj
And Replace simples with symbols
And here’s the quickest of all run down created by southpark and a personal favorite https://youtu.be/J40BHZkJZa8?si=lak3pEA1FKZaemus
Bonus for you adhd fricks like myself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvuVhCIQgfQ
Thanks anon. I appreciate you.
No problem friend keep up the great work
>I have a treasure trove of occult secrets
>enlightenment
I just needed to see one word to know you don't actually know shit
>most efficient money magic you know of ?
>The sigil of a job application
"Wage slavery is magic!!!!"
What a waste of a thread, seriously.
>yeah im sorry for wasting my time on your larp too
I don't understand why people make waste of space threads like this. There's more entertaining shit to do like watch movies, tv shows, play video games, etc.
Anon guess how I know you’re reading with eyes of projected malevolence trying to spread the negativity that’s within you instead of challenging it with greater insights
>Anon guess how I know you’re reading with eyes of projected malevolence trying to spread the negativity that’s within you instead of challenging it with greater insights
Anon, guess how I know you aren't a licensed psychologist and your are just spewing BS psychoanalyst babble when you aren't qualified to diagnose anyone?
Anon, guess how I know you aren't a licensed psychologist and your are just spewing BS psychoanalyst babble when you aren't qualified to diagnose anyone?
1. I never diagnosed anyone.
2. Lol at the childish "no u" response.
You diagnosed me and yourself which by your own words should not be something you can do without a Licence tm
Yes your projections are quiet childish as children avoid responsibility and would rather throw a tantrum then put in the work
no u 😉
It all me baby even (you)
Ooooo I really like these Ty anon
But the wise have always had to love I. The realms of the tards
Such is the game
There are 26 letters in the English alphabet
G=7
O=15
D=4
All material particles (proton neutron electron glue on, etc) spin at 720 degrees like fallowing the surface of a mobius strip https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinor
If we are part of the God consciousness and can just utilize our imagination to fulfill all our desires / shape our reality what is the point of magic and spirits? Technically, isn't it possible to imagine spirits out of your own reality with your imagination and imagine a reality where you can control it entirely without any magic? But then why are there so many ancient traditions based off of magic even though there is knowledge we are all of the God consciousness?
Sorry, having an existential crisis. I have been a practicing diviner / scryer and all these questions are popping into my head and nobody likes conversing about these things because they either get mad at me or think I'm trying to be an butthole which I'm not. I'm just honestly curious and trying to learn more.
Realizing your god and utilizing this is magik ceremonial magik like religion is just a larp that accesses this power to carry the message of I Am through the generations
Normies have always been more interested in play then the great work so in there play they hide the secrets for the few wise men that pop up out of it
It is the fertilizer for the trees of life
Check out the sneaky little feller on the bottom left announcing that he’s the philosophers stone “I am black white yellow and red”
Like most people who use tarot for divination are missing out on it’s true purpose of studying the archetypes and there relation with numbers symbol and the hero’s journey
But le fun spooky figure out the future game keeps the cards printing for those with eyes to see there true potential
Like the 3 virtues of tarot add up to 33 which represents the spine via it’s vertebrae which represents the Djed(think Jedi) which are those with the spine of Osiris and this is just one of the many hidden in plain sight secrets for those with eyes to see
One cool thing an anon showed me is that every two cards that add to 9 have symbolic connections uwu
And every object when you calculate its degrees and sum them to one number = divine 9
Numbers and their play are quite fascinating
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1monad divided itself into 3 so that it could be infinity
1/3 =.333~ infinitum
1/3+1/3+1/3=.999~infinitum
1=.9~infinity
6/12(3)/18(9) seeds
639
1/6/12(3) circles
163
Just another 1 9 connection
If you count the inner seeds aswell there’s a total of 90(9) seeds the inner seeds also make a 6 18(9) 30(3) connection
And the total of circles is 19(10(1))
And here’s my favorite connection
The 9-11 vertical horizontal palindrome nature of 9 and 11
11 being the pic related
9 being
09
18
27
36
45
54
63
72
81
90
There’s also a connection to the three pillars of kabalah via tarot
9’s vertical palindrome Representing the middle pillar
11 horizontal palindrome representing the pillars of severity and mercy
Wheels within wheels
You're also missing the most obvious numerical connection in the tarot where the Magician is the Wheel and the Sun, the Priestess is Justice and Judgment, Empress is Hanged Man and the World, Emperor is Death, Hierophant is Temperance, Lovers is Devil, Chariot is Tower, Strength is Star, and Hermit is Moon
Reposting things you save doesn't make you a teacher of divine secrets.
There's a reason why you sign contracts when you join to return material to Freemasons and Rosicrucian.
Never heard the words "Pearls before swine"?
All im reading is the post of a swine lost in there sauce
Jesus wept for they know not what they do
But alas I shall continue to be the helping hand for those who desire to go home to the truth
For all shall be set free in the light of the truth
And the truth is go(o)d
As the father loved the prodigal son that slept with swine even at the protest of the brother who never took his inheritance and left home
It is the day of the divine messenger after all
The day of da’ath
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Praise be to the morning star
She so thicc
Yellow and blue the royal colors of tarot interesting how they pop up all over
From the fool to the world
Man laying out all these divine secrets is making me a sleepy boy
But it is woedans day my dudes so I must persist
For I am what I am
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>I have a treasure trove of occult secrets
most efficient money magic you know of ?
The sigil of a job application and the accumulative effect of investing and hoarding outside of that LoA look up Neville Godard’s work and read https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36592736/
>job application
kek nice magic
>loa
didn't do shit
I gave you the path of giving and the path of receiving if you can’t find the middle way that’s on you sorry friend
There are infinite ways to use this information
Your aria or energy is just you vibe and feeling feeling collapse into thoughts thoughts collapse into reality
Read the 4plebs link and watch the videos I posted
> Is psychokinesis actually real
Ask your arms and legs as they dance about to the tune of your mind
Your aura or energy is just your vibe and feelings, feelings, collapsing, thoughts thoughts collapse into reality*
You can bypass thoughts though via active meditation and just have your feelings collapse into reality, which is satori one of the prime basis of bending reality
Ty you anon I’ve been meaning to try magic mushrooms
No problemo friend I hope you find what you’re looking for
yeah im sorry for wasting my time on your larp too
That's just a picture of a woman's buttocks as seen from below her blue skirt.
It’s all about ass anon it always has been
Weird, that Jesus fish reminds me more of a vegana.
It’s supposed to you coomer
Have you never been around one they’re quite fishy
The logo reminds me of Odin.
Othala looks just like that.
Several cathedrals are plastered with that rune.
nice red thong
Is there anyway to actually use the information and secrets you've learned. I am working on Gateway right now, I don't really care if I can ever have OBE's or RVing, however if it's true that we can affect our aura/energy with just our minds, is it possible to use this energy to affect physical reality? Is psychokinesis actually real?
Pic related is a godsend for accessing active meditation and the path of reception
I'll bite. How can I make people like me more with magick or something like that? A spell, anything.
People legitimately have talked about me behind my back and lost me relationships, friendships, shit like that. I think that a lot of people hate me irl, and the reason is they think I am a rapist or something. I have only been told that people say "bad things" about me, but I have never actually fricking done anything and nobody will tell me what exactly the people say or who they are. It pisses me off.
Your outer world is an extension of your inner world ceremonial magic is just larping to invoke placebo which is a ver powerful thing
If you want people to like you be some one you’d like to be around act with empathy compassion and support go out of your way to be loving in a genuine way and others will return the favor and trade your paranoia for confidence if you think people hate you and act like they do eventually they will but if you think people love you AND ACT LIKE THEY DO they will
Who ever you can’t win over ignore as if you feed into there negativity you will get more of it
Who ever you win over feed your attention as the more you feed there positivity the more positivity you shall receive from others
Here’s a long ass video for anyone into math and numbers
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Here’s some more
thank you, have a funny picture
Np anon
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Way
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurdjieff_movements
I'm curious about becoming an alchemist and a Rosicrucian. Do you know how to become a Rosicrucian? Do you know if a Rosicrucian can become an alchemist?
I believe it is best for one to find all the answers within and become an intimate of the fire aka invisible church/river that produces all the smoke of these mystery schools not to say they can’t lead you there in communion just not my vibe although I may join one for the potlucks and lodges abroad
You can be both an alchemist and a RC and you’ll most likely find some of them there who can help you out just join your local lodge and see what’s up but beware unearned wisdoms and do your own research don’t just blindly fallow and only read what you’re told
Just came to say hi again anon, you're cool as frick. Have a great night and thanks for sharing as always
Thank you for the kind words I hope you have a great night aswell
Boop poop
Poop boop
Most people either live in the realm of logic or the realm of “spirit”
Rarely do many mix the two and meet in the middle such is the path of the magi aka wisemen
See, I'm interested in this, then. I don't see how a bridge could ever be built..but if a bridge can be built, I am deeply interested in how. Like, religious zeal-level of interest.
Read the thread click the links
Complete Charlatan bullshit.
I am a deeply spiritual person, but even I realize the physical world around me is not some kind of mirror of the soul. It is place I inhabit - but deeper truths have no shape, no angles, no geometry. They simply are.
Stop selling your abject bullshit and get a job.
Sorry friend that’s just how it be feel free to believe what you please
I don't suppose you or anyone here knows anything about traveling to other universes? Like if I had a specific one in mind and wanted to take someone with me? Thank you, and I hope for the best for those here and elsewhere.
Sorry friend you already asked this before salvia Is your best bet
Ah, wasn't sure if this was a topic by someone else or not. Thank you anyways, hope for the best for you and others.
No problem and I hope the same cheers
Oh god damnit I just realized I got Scorpio’s and Aquarius’s symbols flipped in the wrong spots
I’ll just have to fix it later
Crazy how kabalist understood how the brain functions waaaaay before modern science https://youtu.be/wfYbgdo8e-8?si=gcmoNWADj2IQxEFH
There was an old April fools joke on Reddit that basically showed only a fraction of people watch links before commenting in them
People love to talk not so many love to learn
Another cool thing is how the brain will hallucinate an answer to a question unknown like AI
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood
3609
How can a mystic be bored when every moment is a miracle beheld?
Once you've seen all possible kind of miracles, they get old.
This tbh sure I could be spending my time better invoking more beauty and all that jazz but I enjoy fractaling insights at such a convenience
Although it never truly gets old just more normalized
what theosophy books do you recommend (or books by theosophical leaning authors)
I haven’t read any that I’m aware of just watched some lectures back in the day which I found pretty boring
Scroll through the thread I’ve got plenty of recommendations listed
The best book is life itself though take psychedelics and learn how to read it all though you may need prior knowledge going in so the information you find on the other side has something to bind to so you can later distill it
I wonder what the ratio of people who read the thread vs people who just post in the thread is
The mayors a bot
What are dreams
“Heres another little hint hint wink wink nudge nudge from one traveler to another dreams are the hint that your reality around you is of your own creation bound by hidden rules youve made for yourself peering through a character youve made for yourself not realizing that its a character and your the actor and orchestrator”
Law of 7
142857 the play of the material
Law of 3
369 the play of the spirit
As seen in the father the son the holyspirit to the west
And Brahma Vishnu shiva to the east
In kaballah this would be da’at tiferet yesod the middle pillar that which connects the left and right hemisphere of the brain
Forgot to mention the dance of 142857
1+1= 2 that’s that’s 2 digits forward
2+2=4 that’s 1 digit back
4+4=8 that’s 2 digits forward
8+8=16 1+6=7 that’s 2 digits forward
7+7=14 1+4=5 that’s 1 back
5+5=10 1+0=1 that’s 2 digits forward
+2+2-1 (+3) cycle of 3 6 9 which folds back into itself when digital rooted
I’d stick my dick in it
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I wish there was a board that combined /x/ with EerieWeb
/x/ morons are too dumb for EerieWeb shit and just want to play in la la land
And EerieWeb morons are to close minded and stubborn for /x/ shit and will just spout add homonyms like it’s just a coincidence or seeing patterns is just schizophrenia when it’s litterallly the basis of intelligence and math
No one ever warns you that the wiser you become the stupider the world looks
Relativity is a b***h
Nonsense. Vedas call the wise hamsa, swanlike.
They have a wives' tale that a swan can drink diluted milk, accept only the milk, and spit out the water.
In the same way, the mystic can see the good and wise in all situations.
If your "wisdom" leads to cynicism and arrogance, then it is a fool's wisdom.
lol it’s all just a dream my dude no need to take things so seriously
>but a jape
You are absent wisdom.
If you are OP, it is obvious how much you want to be adulated, and how little there is in you that warrants it.
Sounds like you’re a sour puss miss negative bancy
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I should have titled this thread something diffrent this is less of an AMA and more of a lecture on math magik
Bunp
Aight boi, prove it. What you know about Blue Eisenhower November ?
I hear that users of BEN are being protected from death at the moment, by an unnatural force. A BEN user got bit by an animal, and the animal died within hours from it's immune system completely collapsing, that animal is being held for weeks for "analysis" .
Any BEN users have any weird brushes with death recently? Did whatever was going to harm you get stopped, die, or be neutralized for no direct reason by you?
Let's hear it.
I remember my first shit post :p 3/10 do better
For "proof" of magic here you go. Do the simple prayers to these 8 angels, and you'll really see, and feel, some magic. Be serious, though, and make realistic requests.
https://codexastarte.substack.com/p/invocation-of-the-angels-of-omnipotence
Op here all you’re doing is revoking placebo via set and setting it’s a powerful thing but it’s larping at the end of the day not that there’s anything wrong with that
Invoking
>I have a treasure trove of occult secrets and shit posts
Doubtful.
The last few times we had AMA, by a self-declared mystic, it turned out it was a guy who was read on the surface, but got no understanding of what he read. No occult secrets, only regurgitated shit by an arrogant narcissist who thought he was close to enlightenment while further from it than a regular, not even interested in spiritual development person.
AMA are rarely done by particularly spiritually developed. Usually it's done by egocentric people wanting attention and recognition. The only exception in the last, dunno, half a year was the alawite faith guy and it's because he first explained and shared stuff and then it turned into AMA naturally.
Recognize your flaws or at least make less shitty RP, actually providing something of value than baiting for questions.
You sound very bitter and upset pilled maybe look at your own blind arrogance before casting stones uwu
>You sound very bitter and upset
Oh well, I may sound so to you, but then I can also accuse you of projection. I am wary however of "mystics" doing AMA given what kind of shitshows those tend to be.
>maybe look at your own blind arrogance before casting stones
Already done so and I am pretty sure it's not blind arrogance when it's well founded. If my stance would be good enough grounds for such accusation, then you making such would be an act of arrogance as well.
> I am wary however of "mystics" doing AMA given what kind of shitshows those tend to be.
Read the thread
> Already done so
Ok there champ god damn am I so humble I’m the most humble guy I know
> not blind arrogance when it's well founded
Did you even read the thread
> If my stance would be good enough grounds for such accusation, then you making such would be an act of arrogance as well.
Ok there champ go head and gas light gate keep girl boss you got this
Blah blah blah. Keep being dismissive and I'll be dismissive of you in turn and we'll both keep on trucking.
That’s just how the cookie crumbles
>the alawite faith guy
Based guy, can't wait for his book
So what's the nature of our reality? Are we here to appease and entertain some higher entities with our lifestories? Is this all just one large act? Or is there some deeper truth we must discover, to break free from shackles? Learn the "true self", instead of wearing the masks that the entities tempt you to wear?
<So what's the nature of our reality?
Infinite probability collapsing into personal narrative
>Are we here to appease and entertain some higher entities with our lifestories?you are that higher entity playing you
>Is this all just one large act?
Yes the thing you think you are is a character you’ve weaved and are weaving
>Or is there some deeper truth we must discover, to break free from shackles?the shackles are in your head
>Learn the "true self", instead of wearing the masks that the entities tempt you to wear?
You are the entities behind all masks is the true you to discover this is gnosis which translates the knowledge which translates to da”at
>You are the entities behind all masks is the true you to discover this is gnosis which translates the knowledge which translates to da”at
That sounds exactly with some AI hivemind trying to capture human souls after death would say to try to convince people
Fear is the mind killer
Alll is mind
It kills foreign mind's influence yes. The crater earth youtube guy literally had videos on how there's foreign consciousness invading our world, and all of the world leaders made a deal with it.
It’s a shame the wise have to share space with the morons
https://rumble.com/v4iqssw-59-crater-earth-wonderwall.html
what is the ultimate fate of really fricked up sadists/satanic elites and stuff like that, do they get a chance at redemption, or are they already following god's preordained plan for them, which ends in transcendence?
i'm not tempted to enact sadism on fellow human beings myself, as per my current experience/desires, but something about the idea of the "evil bad guys" being locked away from heaven forever doesn't sit well with me, it makes me doubt my own ability to achieve transcendence, to cast even the most wicked and perverse souls her off forever, i desperately want to believe they are "saved" which i know is the wrong concept to begin with but it's what my brain is working with currently, still working on deprogramming my christian conception of the world
I believe if they can’t get past the karmic washing machine as there sins are to large to bare they probably come back here to work on them in a new ego
Ultimately you got to figure out what it alll represents to you as you made the dream so it’s all gonna be personal
A fitting (yet horrific) fate would be that they get reincarnated as the very children/victims of later people also like themselves (karmic retribution). And another supposed possibility, according to some Eastern Dharmic teachings on reincarnation, is that if they damage and degrade their own soul enough, they might reincarnate into some lower animal like a toad, bat, lizard, scorpion, snake or other reptile (interestingly, often the ones glorified in certain forms of black magic, Satanic cults and/or aberrant malicious forms of shamanism) after experience of a hell realm in the afterlife, melting down their soul then forcing them back to a less sophisticated life-form to slowly redevelop back over millions of years of transmigrations and moving up through different species, until they are worthy of the stupendous gift of the human body and consciousness.
Speaking of this thread, I found the series of webms at the beginning very well-produced and thought-provoking, but after that with all the infographics it seems to devolve into the regurgitation of information, information overload, plus at least some pareidolia. Gurdjieff and the Fourth Way teachings were name dropped and that’s cool, though.
“The Divine Plan” by Geoffrey A. Barborka
“The Etheric Double”
“The Astral Body”
“The Mental Body”
“The Causal Body and the Ego”
“The Solar System” (all by the Theosophist A.E. Powell)
“The Masters and the Path” by C.W. Leadbeater
“The Externalization of the Hierarchy” by Alice Bailey
I’ve also heard the original founding times by Blavatsky (Isis Unveiled, and The Secret Doctrine) are good reads but ironically I didn’t get to them yet, although everything else here I read once (except Bailey’s book, halfway through and dropped it for a long time).
>A fitting (yet horrific) fate would be that they get reincarnated as the very children/victims of later people also like themselves (karmic retribution)
Doesn't matter if they don't keep their past memories. It's not true reincarnation if you've forgotten everything.
If you don't have your memories you're essentially dead and it's an entirely new person existing. So it would just be a random person being tortured for no reason.
Without awareness of ones crimes, the punishment isn't a punishment and it doesn't matter.
It would be like if a serial killer was only the way he was because of a brain tumor. He gets it removed and is now a completely different person that is squirmy, repentant, crying, sad, empathetic, apologetic, etc.
It would be hard for the loved ones of the victims to find any solace in his execution of he got a death sentence, because it's no longer the same monster being killed, it's as if another person is suffering in their stead, the monster still "won in the end" since they escaped the punishment even if their vessel didn't.
I think you’re arguing this more out of what’s emotionally satisfying vs. what’s emotionally disturbing to you, although I entirely understand this and struggled with such conundrums myself when even younger and conflicted about the evil in the world and what seem like great injustices that go on (the good going unrewarded, the evil unpunished).
Regardless, I still think the Eastern Dharmic notion of karma (mostly consistent across Jainism, Buddhism, and Hindu religion, despite their different teachings on the nature of God and selfhood, besides how extremely they take the theory, with Jain ascetics not even wanting to kill bugs or microbes) still is pretty logically coherent and sensible in its implications if you take it as an axiom.
In a way you’re right that the individual physical body and ego, the newly formed body, organs, and brain, seems to be an entirely different entity even if you hold reincarnation is possible, and that it is something like a cosmic injustice if they face the results of suffering they caused in a past lifetime in a new body with its past-life memories mostly wiped out or inaccessible. A response to this might work on several different levels:
1.) there’s something like a preservation of a karmic moral record for every individual soul (jiva, as it’s called)
2.) this is stored in the so-called causal body per Indian teachings (karanasharira), so called because it bears the seeds of the CAUSES of what happens in one’s life; a primordial supramaterial state-of-consciousness that bears the traces and memories of what has been experienced, as well as the deeper character-traits and wisdom gained through many lifetimes of action, behavior, speech, etc.
3.) the physical body is itself animated and enlivened by these higher supramaterial aspects of the human individuality, like the so-called subtle and causal bodies; the body could be regarded as a cloak these put on to experience life in this world, a descent from a higher supramaterial plane or possibly even higher dimensions, into a more limited gross material one.
Another analogy could be that one individual physical lifetime is something like a “finger” put down by the causal body into material life on Earth, whereas the causal body itself would analogously be like the entire body/self animating it putting out that finger. The body itself and consciousness behind it is what did what it did. So the seemingly innocent “finger”, even with its own seemingly limited “finger-consciousness”, still gets punished, assuming one did something like, say, stick it into a fire. And the record of this experience (pain from the hot fire, as “punishment” for sticking one’s finger into the fire) essentially is really affecting the very self animating this finger, of which the finger is a tiny cross-section or part for it to experience things.
Another (imperfect) analogy could be to doing something wrong sober, then popping enough Xanax you forget who you are, but still being punished for it while high on Xanax, because you’re still you even while you seem temporarily forgetful of it all.
However, I do agree with the sentiment that the world can be a cruel and fricked up place, and some of these possibilities are emotionally disturbing.
However, it still seems more coherent, just, and fitting than necessarily temporary/limited suffering caused by one’s sins in the material world (no matter how great the suffering caused, it’s still inevitably limited, because of the limitations of the physical body in both time and space) being punished with eternal hell in the afterlife (the you-got-one-shot-at-life-&-then-eternal-pleasure-or-punishment-after-it worldview of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and Zoroastrianism), or the atheist materialist worldview that it just goes entirely unpunished if not punished during one’s lifetime, just as good goes entirely unrewarded if there’s no reward for it in one’s lifetime.
I am still trying to work out cricks in my worldview (as well as even add as many new, great, wonderful, true and valuable truths or perspectives to it as I can), so I am not preaching this as gospel, but sort of speaking devil’s-advocate style on intelligent reincarnation-believers would say, or the most intelligent theologians and mystics of faiths teaching it. (Although mainstream forms of Buddhism get trickier and more difficult with their “no-self” teaching, so this is different from that).
You can even sort of reverse-engineer/derive some of this from stuff like Robert Monroe and his cultivation of out-of-body states and supposed journeys into his “higher self”, or higher, supramaterial aspects of himself.
I don't trust the Theosophical Society, even tho I believe there are many good things that can be learned from them, but I'm not on a level where I can tell apart what is good from what is bad.
Of course all authors have this issue, but some authors from the TS speak on behalf of some hidden "masters" or "mahatmas", which sounds iffy.
In general it's considered good practice for esotheric authors to speak on their own behalf, even if they have acess to someone of higher knowledge. On top of that, the blatant materialism of some authors like Leadbeater is just weird.
How do I trap a succubus or some other order of demon inside an object? Specifically an ona+plush doll.
I want to see if i can "correct" a demon and reedem them back to their prefallen state.
I can summon them, and get them into the object. But the minute they realize ive set up power seals to stop their energy absorption they just leave.
I have used several circles to try to keep them in. Nothing has worked.
Any ideas?
I am asking here and not succ gen because most of those gays larp.
Cool. No response. Confirmed not a mystic. Confirmed gay. Cur-sed are you and your descendants. A servant of servants will your seed be until the end of days.
You’re just playing with your imagination
Not a response. Not OP.
These days my memory of dreams upon waking up is pretty spotty, but I regularly have dreams involving water. Specifically, either falling into a body of water, or swimming around under water. I understand enough to realize that water represents emotions and that the depths correspond to spiritual depths, but besides that I'm not really sure how to interpret these experiences. Do you have any insight?
Op here I had a synchronicity line up relevant to your dreams so I thought I should add that water often represents the mind
Ur a mystic huh? So does that mean you can do something extreme that will result in me having a cute furry gf who loves me back? Asking for a friend of course, I think he said something along the lines of "can a mystic conjure me a cute foxie that I can date and have sex with, but most importantly be in love with?"
is there somehow correlation between popularity of italo disco and car emission legislation?
Everything’s connected
How to have people I hurt forgive me and love me again?
Happy with any method. Don't bother with self-love spews, I know it all already and am working on it, but it hurts too much to be blocked and ignored.
You know the answer best you can do is self love and move on
Time to make new connections and practice non attachment
Boop
Lucifer just showed up on /misc/
But noone appears to have noticed apart from me and the guy who summoned him
Kys
I'd rather not but thanks
If you think heart and unity isn’t involved you weren’t paying attention
What I mean, Anon, is that math is cold logic. Feeling isn't.
Your point is misleading as there is heart and love in the divine math
>There is heart and love in the divine math
No, there isn't. Cold math is pure, raw logic, like all math. It has no soul. It may point to something else hidden - some other structure, some other logical thing, I confess this, fine.
But it cannot point to a feeling. To the raw QUALIA of an experience, because the two words do not in any sense come together. Numbers can never, ever, describe the sensation of love. They cannot describe the sensation of mortal terror.
As much as this stuff goes in to describing our world, it's limits, it's fractals - these all exist in geography, the position and ratio of the sun, moon, earth - time - and then end once inner experience is to be discussed. If I'm wrong, show me how.
If you can’t see the creativity and poetry in number your lost if you can’t see the number in art symmetry beauty you’re lost
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I'm surprised this garbage larp thread is still up.
What larp?
What do you think about god and the logos?