You side with demons and not God, why?

You do realize that no matter how much you worship the devil, he will only give you passing earthly pleasures to keep you from God, but once you're condemned to hell, that isn't going to keep up. you're going to be tortured for eternity despite what you did for the devil. why do you choose the losing side? Why do you choose fleeting earthly pleasures instead of an eternity of joy and bliss with your creator?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What earthly pleasures are you talking about?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      money

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't deserve heaven so I'm just playing by ear and exploring in the dark, fumbling against the walls of the cave until something bites me on the hand. I don't have a plan.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No one deserves to get in to heaven. We are all sinners.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, only you Christcucks are sinners! Go find yourself a cross to hang from, and use real nails!...

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    All that duality nonsense is Churchianity.
    > I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
    Satan, represents doubt, not some being of his own will

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do you just go around posting this out of context whenever you get the opportunity

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is perfectly in context with the thread, there are no demons nor devils. And this is my first time posting that verse, so I do not know what you mean honestly

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You weren't arguing with an anon about God and free will in another thread earlier? If that wasn't you then you gotta realize the atheist brigade all says the same shit, it's obnoxious.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, I haven't gone into that thread, I typically don't if it's about free will lol

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            K. But my point still stands. Every atheist has a handful of out of context bible quotes they keep in their back pocket, and that's one of them. I guess because you assume most Christians don't have in depth knowledge on what their own holy book says, so you can just cherrypick random quotes that sound maximally bad to shove in their face and demand they explain. It's very gay and snotty. No anon, Gertrude on Facebook doesn't know whether or not God exists as logos or as a real separate omnipotent intelligence. She doesn't know what the Star of Remphram is and she doesn't know what Saturnalia is. She bakes cookies and complains about gas prices.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The quote he said isn't meant to sound bad, he was trying to get you to see Christ within. You are too deluded by dualistic perceptions.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No. He's just moronic and immature. Just like you're pretentious and mealy-mouthed. Say more with less, nostradumbass.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You are nothing but noise. Please take your own advice to heart and reflect.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you knew anything valuable you wouldn't be on /x/

        • 2 months ago
          no, buddy

          An eternity of the same thing, even joy and bliss, sounds like torture.

          The word demon comes from the Greek word daemon, which is what was used in early versions of the bible. It means something people do unconsciously. More than that, a demon is a type of spirit aka that which imparts action. This is why alcoholic spirits are so named.

          Entertainment media has turned these concepts into a fantasy, but originally they were just about every day experiences.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Demons are intestinal parasites

            Every single one of you has to read this PDF https://archive.org/details/parasite-pill-2.0/mode/2up

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >All that duality nonsense is Churchianity.
      I guess all computers and literally every electronic thing invented are Churchianity nonsense then

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >churchianity

      Hows your fedora fitting today?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What he was saying was dogmatism associated with the church rather than what Christ was actually teaching.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >He thinks the Christ was an actual person
          Kek. Have fun trying to wrap your head around basic esoteruc concepts without any grasp on symbolism, anon. You'll get there some day

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I rather go to hell with dominatrix lilith, you can give hand jobs to your israeli gay messiah zombie.
    I mean seriously, your image looks so cheesy and superficial.
    You think some clouds and a curated image of Jeebus in white robes is the totality of the divine...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They know, at the end of the day the lives of the saints

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I rather go to hell with dominatrix lilith
      atheist redditor view. Heaven and hell aren't two "clubs". If hell is real it will not be fun.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This video actually had quite an effect on me. I think of the people he describes in this video as representations of those living superfluous lives on Earth. I've already been slowly growing weary of degeneracy in all its forms, and am ready to eschew the culture and customs of israelitetopia.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You do realize that no matter how much you worship the devil, he will only give you passing earthly pleasures to keep you from God

    Spoken like someone without a shred of actual spiritual work under their belt. Stay cucked

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot the > for the quote, comment still stands

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's pointless to argue with Christians about anything spiritual. They're too self-absorbed to even begin listening to anyone else's perspective.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's just sad to see.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because there's no evidence of God and other people's suffering isn't my fault.

      They're trying to lure their anti-Christ. It's proving to be impossible.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Daimon used to mean any para-physical entity within the cosmos but below the cosmic egg. The use of Daimon as "Demon" is just an etymological game of telephone. You're quite literally using the word wrong

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Language evolves we are not Minoans

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Losing the original meaning is not an evolution of language. Especially when the contemporary definition is muddied and subjective. Also, Daimon was used up to the 1800s

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Thing I don't want to have happened happened
          >Therefore it doesn't count
          No sorry language evolved to fit with the dominant religion on the planet and anything that wasn't of God was necessarily a demon larping as a God. That's how it is now, and you can't do anything about it. Sorry!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I understand cognitive dissonance is having a profound effect on you right now, anon. Regardless of how you feel, it is perfectly humanly reasonable to question change and colloquialisms. You may as well be defending the use of ebonics in white teens

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What cognitive dissonance? I don't believe two contradictory things. You morons just say shit without even knowing the definition.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Based ESL. Cognitive Dissonance is the human tendency to either blindly adapt to new proposed facts, or blindly deny them based on what is more subconsciously favorable - rather than logical thought-out discernment.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That isn't cognitive dissonance. I don't know what to say, honestly. You literally just don't know the definition of that phrase.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The threat of Christian Hell means nothing to anyone who isn't indoctrinated in their death cult. I could just as easily ask any Christian, "why aren't you a Muslim, aren't you worried about being sent to Muslim Hell for denying Muhammad as Allah's messenger and worshipping a prophet instead of God himself?"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No because Islam is a heretical offshoot of Abrahamism mutilated through the lense of dumb desert barbarians. They worship a demon and will all be going to hell. Duh.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        And are you worried about the "fantastic lakes of fire" in the Duat should your heart be heavier than a feather or some shit? The ancient Egyptian religion is just as plausibly the only true religion as any other.

        And yes, the idea of Hell as a lake of fire did not originate with Christianity.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No. Those are demons. Most religions have a version of the afterlife that is similar to the Christian hell, but nothing like the Christian heaven. This is because they're all technically true, just narrated from the perspective of demons. Ok?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >OK?
            I could just as easily say that Jesus was a "desert demon" who aimed to corrupt the israelites by getting them to worship a human instead of God directly. Your perspective doesn't really justify itself.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No you couldn't. Because the israelites who accepted him as their Messiah became the first Christians, while those who rejected him became the most vile and spiteful subhuman morons on the entire planet, cursed to forever roam the earth without a homeland, eternally drawing the ire of their Christian host nations through their evil and ungodly behavior. So. Pretty clear who the good guys were.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you see history in terms of "good versus evil" you're clearly too stupid to ever begin to grasp religion.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            History is good versus evil. If you think differently, you're a midwit.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Okay pal, sure thing. Let me know whatever new tidbit you pick up the next time you're riding the short bus home.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You come up with that one all by yourself

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >"good versus evil"
            It's always been like that. More specifically a spectrum of good versus evil. Some good and some bad. True grayness can never be achieved.
            >you're clearly too stupid to ever begin to grasp religion
            Ever wondered why Freemason lodges have a checkered black and white ground?
            Go to literally any occult society and say "duality doesn't exist" and see what happens. Spoiler: they will call you a moron.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You know the black and white checkerboard tiles don't represent good versus evil, right? They represent light and darkness which are both holy in their own rights and necessary in equal parts to engender this plane of reality in the first place.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why would you think this dumbfrick backwater moron would even begin to be able to process a mental image like that, let alone understand what you're implicating in the first place.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You cannot into symbolism

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            And what do you think light vs darkness represents?
            Man and woman? Right and wrong? Yes and no? 0 and 1? Negative and Positive? Light and darkness?
            Reality is just a massive collection of such dualities. Nothing more. They all work and interact with another. There are constants and variables but at the end of the day they can be decomposed to the smallest particle and in their core you will find a dual relationship.
            If we didn't understood and accept this then things such as computers, AI, medicine etc... wouldn't exist. The best scientists and engineers understand this and manipulate duality.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            All humans carry innate duality, therefore history isn't as simple as "good vs. evil"

            No one is a villain in their own hearts. Your idea of who the "evil ones" in history are would change radically if you were simply born in a different place to a different family. That's how you know it isn't that simple.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            He's not going to understand this part either, anon. Christcucks have zero concept of moral nuance

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Read this post again

            >"good versus evil"
            It's always been like that. More specifically a spectrum of good versus evil. Some good and some bad. True grayness can never be achieved.
            >you're clearly too stupid to ever begin to grasp religion
            Ever wondered why Freemason lodges have a checkered black and white ground?
            Go to literally any occult society and say "duality doesn't exist" and see what happens. Spoiler: they will call you a moron.

            I already said that things are not as simple as they are.

            Sometimes we don't know for certain if a dual constant/variable is true or false. Or good or evil, name it however you want. We can look at one such constant/variable and we may think it's evil but over time (maybe we accumulate more wisdom or experience) it can transform in good. The thing is, such constant/variable always have a clear value assigned to them but we can't perceive them as such due to our human limitations. And in the case variables as the name suggests, they can always change.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            And I'm saying that if morality is relative to human perception then history itself can't meaningfully be described through its lens.

          • 2 months ago
            no, buddy

            Language itself is relative to human perception, so do you think we can't meaningfully describe anything?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Only if you require reductionist infallibles to think or feel

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Actual mentally brain-dead moron

          • 2 months ago
            no, buddy

            >Go to literally any occult society and say "duality doesn't exist"
            Any mystical occult society will reply:
            >Yes, that is correct. Duality is an illusion. Non duality is Truth.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Exoteric dumbass.
            >All things in the whole manifest in a genuine multiplicity, though are still a part of the whole.
            >The All within all, all within the All.

          • 2 months ago
            no, buddy

            There is little that is exoteric in mystical occult societies. Non duality has bade some rounds in the mainstream, but if that's all you've seen then you have a lot to learn. Multiplicity of the one is just a re-framing of the most basic idea in non duality.

            >>Yes, that is correct. Duality is an illusion. Non duality is Truth.
            The biggest red flag that you're dealing with a society of larpers. You will be forever blacklisted from joining the real ones if they found out you were a member of such larpers.

            I am not, it's just something I experienced personally and so I've looked into it. To be frank, being associated with /x/ and especially /ng/ is far worse.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >To be frank, being associated with /x/ and especially /ng/ is far worse
            /x/ not really. You just have to find the really good threads.
            /ng/ most definitely.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >All things in the whole manifest in a genuine multiplicity, though are still a part of the whole.

            Differentiation and integration.

            >Everything that in any sense exists has two sides, namely, its individual self and its signification in the universe. These two poles cannot be torn apart. Each finds its fulfillment in the other via their dialectical relation. Thus, becoming is for the purpose of being (signification in the universe) and being is for the purpose of novel becoming (the emergent individual self.)
            >Objectivity, facticity, is the permanent aspect of reality - immortal achievement immortally realized; subjectivity, immediacy, process, is its changeable aspect-its advance towards novelty. But subjectivity isn not the result of an underlying subject's activity of relating objects to itself, of a one weaving a many into the pre-existent unity of its oneness. It is, rather, the "growing together" (con-crescence) of objects to create a novel subject that enriches the many from which it springs. "The many become one, and are increased by one." The entire world finds its place in the internal constitution of the new creature, and the new creature lays an obligation upon the future: that it take into account the value achieved by the new creature. Thus every creature both houses and pervades the world.
            >Two inseparable notions therefore constitute the foundational insight of Whitehead's process philosophy: the permanence of value achieved and the ongoingness of value achievement. To construct a metaphysical scheme capable of elucidating the implications of these notions was his purpose in writing Process and Reality.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>Yes, that is correct. Duality is an illusion. Non duality is Truth.
            The biggest red flag that you're dealing with a society of larpers. You will be forever blacklisted from joining the real ones if they found out you were a member of such larpers.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The real ones don't organize, anon.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The real ones you won't get in unless you were groomed from birth or you have ancient blood flowing inside you.

            But who knows. A lot of ancient bloodlines were lost to time and the elites are constantly looking for them. Maybe you have one. As a rule of thumb, the closer your reletives live next to each other, the higher the chance you poses one. Mutts i.e. French dad and British mom, are disqualified from the get go

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Of course you wouldn't get what I said there. As expected. I'm also not the anon you were arguing with.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The real ones are work no different than a EerieWeb thread. Make of that what you will

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Your discord servers are not cult organizations

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Who said they were online. The only really big difference is that we somebody says something, they might actually do it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            When's your next grand lodge meeting?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why would I be in a lodge? Where have I claimed to be some powerful elite?
            I'm just a random dude you met on /x/

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This entire thread is just a handful of Spiritual but Not Religious™ and atheist morons sperging because Christians reject their worldview, while rejecting the Christian worldview and demanding that Christians change for them. The Christians aren't even demanding you change. They're just saying you're wrong about what they believe. And you are. Fart huffing morons.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >"Oh yeah, well you believe (thing that nobody said!)

      >No I don't

      >"Well how do you explain THIS THING OUTSIDE OF YOUR RELIGION???"

      >Very easily in fact my religion accounts for exactly that

      You guys are geniuses

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't there a law in Euclid's mathematics with similar circular thinking

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I reject earthly rewards and specifically desire for what you call hell. They've shown it to me, and I know what it is I'm in for.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I worship life. I reject Christianity because it is the religion of life-hatred that generates life-denying losers. Christianity isn't the religion of love, it's the religion of the ultimate enslavement of love to the image of narcissistic tyranny projected onto the celestial sphere: THE LORD.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >but once you're condemned to hell

    already happened, this is hell

    • 2 months ago
      no, buddy

      Maybe for you, but do you really think everyone in this world is in hell?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        heaven can turn into hell, in a split second

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do you choose le losing side?
    Why do you? What makes you think you havent Lost already?

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know who's trying to trick me and who isn't. I will let God speak to me through nature and the animals, not a "demonic" frequency weapon that you are using to chastise me

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You'd like The Book of Early Whisperings

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I will try to find it, found one of his other books on the archive, this one is a little more difficult to find on mobile

        Thank you for the recommend, his stuff looks interesting

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get why people indulge these bad faith "Christians" that are clearly just here to bait and be as obtuse as possible to get your frustrated reaction. All they want is your loosh, whether conscious of it or not.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Psychosocial aspects of spirituality are being outpaced by formal efforts to teach about the preferred "good guys." At the end of the day, it doesn't matter very much since we're all passing through the same purgatory. Not a great answer, right? Very non-dual.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The whole has dual aspects. If life were truly non-dual we would all be an imperceptible grey smear with zero differentiation. An illusion could not cast if there were no means of perception by a seemingly separate object on some level. Herego, differentiation. Herego, duality.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The whole is non-dual. Since non-dual in your mind is analogous to a nothing, ambiguous reality, care to explain what function infinite punishment for finite sin serves in a world of duality, minus the doubletalk?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Let me make it real simple for you to understand duality:

          constant 1 = good
          constant 2 = bad
          constant 1 in our mind when we perceive it clearly = good
          constant 1 in our mind when we don't perceive it clearly (i.e. lack of knowledge) = unknown (secretly still good)
          constant 1 in our mind when we don't perceive it clearly (i.e. lack of knowledge) but we want to guess = good, bad, unknown (secretly still good)
          variable 1 (chances depending on the situation i.e. time) = bad
          variable 1 (chances depending on the situation i.e. time) after x amount of time = good
          variable 1 (chances depending on the situation i.e. time) after x amount of time but we don't perceive it clearly (i.e. lack of knowledge) = unknown (secretly still good)
          variable 1 (chances depending on the situation i.e. time) after x amount of time but we don't perceive it clearly (i.e. lack of knowledge) but we want to guess = good, bad, unknown (secretly still good)

          Create an infinite number of constants and variables with duality in mind you got yourself the universe.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Too simple beyond the 3rd constant.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well... there are some things I forgot like for the case when we don't give a frick about constants, or functions and matrices which take a value or a number of values and changes them.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Also, thank you for ignoring the question.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The question answered itself indirectly in my post.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Also, thank you for ignoring the question.

            Keywords are constant and variable + what is the point of ascending.

            Also you do know the action of ascending implies the existence of descending?

          • 2 months ago
            no, buddy

            Your mistake is assuming that good and bad are constants when in reality there is no action, no person, nothing in this world that is always good or always bad. Instead it is the context surrounding actions and they way there are committed that determines our moral perception. Ignorance for example can be good or bad depending on the context. It is not bad but secretly good, it is in actuality non dual.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            > nothing in this world that is always good or always bad
            That's exactly what I've said. Life is a spectrum of good and bad. There can be some bad and a lot of good and there can be a lot of bad and very little good. Villains have to drink water sometimes.
            The only ones that are off limits to you are the extremes. The middle can only be achieved with immense knowledge of the world around you which is nearly impossible unless some super all knowledgeable deity exists. That's the point of Karma. In reality it's a spiritual trap.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're confusing your limited perception with the unknown truth

        • 2 months ago
          no, buddy

          >infinite punishment for finite sin
          Don't forget the infinite bliss we experience as well despite our finite sin. That we are charged with judging such things is not a punishment.

      • 2 months ago
        no, buddy

        That's simply not true. No one is arguing that what we normally perceive isn't dualistic, only that there is a form beyond what we perceive that unifies the dual. In other words, duality is an illusion.

        If the whole were truly dualistic then there would be no whole.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's what you believe. You aren't certain of it.

    • 2 months ago
      no, buddy

      That's also what you believe. You aren't certain of it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not really, lack of certainty is the only true certainty. You can call out any of my other beliefs as uncertainties, but not my acknoweledgement of your, my own, or anyone's lack of certainty of anything except for lack of certainty. Only thing you (or others) can know for certain is that you (or others) know nothing else for certain. Pretty simple.
        That's what makes God a liar right off the bat. Apparently, God claims to be the nost high and omiscient, but it's impossible, because He could not possibly know if he does not know something which he does not know OF. Therefore, He must be a liar, or at least any that have made that claim is.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Religion is for npc cattle.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'll take my people's deities over a semitic desert demon thanks.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You act like you will just lounge in heaven and retain your personality and consciousness but you will be eaten. You will be absorbed by whatever you worship unless you create your own afterlife which Taoism and the LHP teaches.

    Humans were created to just be food and fuel

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Huge if true

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >you're going to be tortured for eternity despite what you did for the devil.
    moron, also use proper capitalization.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Atheism will not exist in 50 years.

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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There you go again about your God's fricking Hell! It's just another Christcuck lie that you've never been challenged on. You have nothing more to offer anyone except your puerile "Step on a crack, break your mother's back!" tier threats! "I'm going to save you from Myself by killing a human sacrifice, who is Me!" Bullshit!!

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