Why should I believe God is real if he makes everyone sick and old and die.

Why should I believe God is real if he makes everyone sick and old and die.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The better to appreciate the afterlife with, my dear.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He's real but he's evil. That's why you appreciate Lucifer. You don't worship him because good entities don't demand worship. But you appreciate Lucifer as a cosmic rebel against this Abrahamic demon creator.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      or you discard the entire talmudic script instead of reading it from the other end, and study the cosmologies of your ancestors. even the gods are subject to Ananke.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If there is an eternal afterlife, then your question is beyond silly.

    If there is no life after death, then we are the same as flies. Our suffering doesn't matter. Our success doesn't matter. Be humble and appreciate what you do have.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Being alive during the big chill sounds lowkey boring ong no cap.

    Ironic to complain when you post a picture of someone who is almost the exact opposite of an ingrate. Shouldve used stephen hawking kek.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How else would the eternal cycle continue? How would the young gain otherwise? We already see how the greedy old people hold onto every penny while preaching the younglings. Its good that god makes everyone die. Keeps everyone on their toes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >How else would the eternal cycle continue? How would the young gain otherwise? We already see how the greedy old people hold onto every penny while preaching the younglings. Its good that god makes everyone die. Keeps everyone on their toes.
      Look at this comment. Just look at it. Look at how it's absolutely indecipherable gibberish with no real meaning whatsoever. Basically word salad that concludes with "it's good god made u die".

      This is how the cognitive dissonance of the Abrahamic Worshipper works. They're just mindbroken submissives who think up new senseless rationalizations to defend their captive and abuser. Classic stockholm syndrome

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        homie I'm not the follower of any abrahamic religion. I literally said cycle of life. The bodies die so that the new ones can grow. The old gods were praised for hurting the old senile men holding back prosperity.
        But you Fear death . That's all you can feel.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          yea you're a follower of Abraham religion I'm not impressed by gaslighting back off

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Keep crying. An endless void awaits you after death. I'll probably be reborn and live fresh once again with less old people influencing how the world works.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Whatever dude. You think that's moral in any way? You think that's right? You feel no guilt or shame over that? To worship some entity who created everything just to doom people to hellish voids if they don't worship him and satiate his narcissistic whims? You wanna be submissive to him? And love him and "serve him" or whatever like some prison b***h holding a dudes pocket for protection? I mean have fun

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Him? Whom? Your life will be a void after death not because you don't pray to a god i believe in but because you're afraid of life and death and your vision of life is against the natural order.
            And i am perfectly fine accepting how things are. Sure i'd love to live longer but not at the cost of competing with the newer people that can make the world better and hurting their interests.
            Enjoy your eternal dark void filled with angst and despair .

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Your life will be a void after death not because you don't pray to a god i believe in but because you're afraid of life and death and your vision of life is against the natural order.
            yeah OK see this is just how people like yourself are masters of manipulation and trying to avoid accountability for yourself. You show up and say one thing, and when you realize it reflects poorly on you, you just entirely rewrite your own statement and write yourself out of any accountability. And I'm unimpressed.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I am not responsible for your interpretation of my words . I never even talked about you praying to god. I simply expanded on the point that bothered you(endless void).
            Stay unimpressed. Stay foolish.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Uh huh OK cool I know everyone is misrepresenting you and victimizing you for accurately characterizing your own statements. I know and everyone else knows and everyone else is also super used to dealing with your types because your types are everywhere.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Given the topic you started with you're the type who is everywhere. Afraid of death and against the abrahamic faith yet seeing the world through the same worldview and reducing everything to that.
            Remove those filters. And see the world for what it is. Hostility to your life is part of nature and the order that the old gods put in place. Face it or be a wimp.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The old gods were praised for hurting the old senile men holding back prosperity
          Absolutely not!
          Old age was even considered a divine punishment in many cultures, something the gods HATED and frowned upon.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Idk about any culture other than mine. Old age is for practicing the acts that lead to salvation and emancipation. Teach the young what may benefit them,teach your grandchildren. There were a lot of herbs for keeping health intact and weed obviously to get high if the arthritis caused too much pain.
            Anyways they left for the jungle after a point of time to spend the rest of their days in peace in some hermitage.
            Chill life. Nothing the gods will envy obviously.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        but what if tho

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What if what? If there's an evil tyrant that tortures you and terrifies you into submission? That's not "what if" in my mind. I believe in him. I believe in God 100% and have spoken to entities who claim to be in service to him. They're evil and Lucifer is a symbol of resistance against them and I hate them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            what if you got dubs

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yea wut if chief sure thing

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What if what? If there's an evil tyrant that tortures you and terrifies you into submission? That's not "what if" in my mind. I believe in him. I believe in God 100% and have spoken to entities who claim to be in service to him. They're evil and Lucifer is a symbol of resistance against them and I hate them.

          >They're evil and Lucifer is a symbol of resistance against them and I hate them.
          resistance against him*, I mean.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            what about the steward, sabaoth? did he forgives lucifer or not even

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know what you're saying, sorry. Dickish entities come to me at night when I'm in a state of sleep paralysis, or when I'm really tired, and they say they're "biblical entities" and they preach following Christ and they're just demons and they get frothing excited at the idea of any kind of convincing someone to commit some form of violence, murder, deception or suffering. They're terrible.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            what about the steward, sabaoth? did he forgives lucifer or not even

            Also one time I got a bible and one of those fricking prayer bead things that christians swear by...rosaries I think they're called? And I tried those? And those entirely spurred them on. It was like I gave them turbocharged monster energy drinks or something

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            my life went to hell once i 'became christian' and im now recovering. i think authentic seeking leaves you vulnerable because it makes one easily spotted and isolated by the spectres. i was terrorized by my aunt in my sleep she was like a wailing banshee and my grandmother too. few hours later got a call she had died.

            I still don't know what you are saying. Sorry. These entities are hardcore christians and that's all I can report. The christians who worship them will swear otherwise and swear they're "good" or something, but IMO that's just fear making them submissive because these things routinely try to intimidate me, frighten me, perform poltergeist shit and whatnot.

            oh well maybe somebodey will answer then.
            those 'christians' wear their 'faith' like a shield. its like taking god hostage and thats how they manipulate people and so many people do that you cant call them out

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yeah the abrahamic god feeds on your fear and pain. The more fear and pain you feel the more apt you are to worship him. When you worship him you devote your soul and all of your energy to him. You devote your entire lifeforce to him so it's easy to see what he's feeding on. And worshippers will give themselves over to him willingly to be feasted upon

            Keep crying. An endless void awaits you after death. I'll probably be reborn and live fresh once again with less old people influencing how the world works.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            demuirge had offspring and one of them turned on him and his name sabaoth and he was made ruler of heaven and earth (but the demuirge is still the 'chief creator'). thats what the text says. maybe sabaoth is lucifer idk

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I still don't know what you are saying. Sorry. These entities are hardcore christians and that's all I can report. The christians who worship them will swear otherwise and swear they're "good" or something, but IMO that's just fear making them submissive because these things routinely try to intimidate me, frighten me, perform poltergeist shit and whatnot.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Dickish entities come to me at night
            I bet they do.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            they do and they're super dickish. And huge lovers of /misc/.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Growth maybe? Instead of death and rebirth?

      I mean why box yourself in, do what you want.

      captcha:dtrt

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its to test you are worthy.
    you know whats going to happen to you, its how you handle it.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Death is a rite of passage, it is the great equalizer of all living organisms. It is the cornerstone of the human condition, sentience, reflection, and projection. We see its effects everywhere. Death is the prime mover of change on macro and micro scales, both as an inevitable force and as a thing to be avoided, to keep it away from us and people we love, to enjoy the moments we experience more deeply due to the fleeting nature of health. Death gives life all of the sincerity, and it provides the best reason possible to seek answers, learn and grow, while we have these temporary imperfect forms, in a fallen world where we can still be close to God and to each other and look back at the history and say that death isn't such a bad or scary thing after all.

  8. 1 month ago
    Mods remove all these religion posts

    Mods these religious posts are x

    Religion isnt paranormal

    Give them a containment board to talk about demons and debate israelites and jesus

    X is about bigfoot, monsters, ufos/aliens- not religious bullshit

    The religion crap is shitting up everything

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      OP's thread posed the classic moral and philosophical question of Abrahamic religion in "why would a just creator create suffering" so why don't you just chill. How many times do you think someone can post a fake Patterson video?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >religion isn't paranormal
      You heard it here first, guys. Zeus is REAL and not paranormal or supernatural at all. He's just a perfectly understood and well documented naked man in the skies who hurts thunderbolts in a completely scientific manner when he gets angry.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        so what if I do
        trips and we'll send a thunderstorm to your neighborhood this afternoon anon

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm assuming you're going with the whole "He's not real because He would stop this shit if He were real"
    Yet you never stopped to question if He might have a point with all this suffering and evil. Maybe the going through suffering part brings extra value to the fun parts of existence. Maybe suffering enhances the quality of existing. A bowl of soup is next to meaningless to a person who was never hungry. It is those who hunger and strain that can feel as if there is meaning in the soup. Why not view this suffering as for our own enrichment? Why not view life like hard handwork, where it pays off in the end more than just being given your reward on a silver platter. Why assume God, this incomphencably powerful and smart and loving being would have nefarious purposes just because you're too focused on the suffering part to imagine there's a good reason for it? You don't get pissed off at a video game creator for it being made hard, do you? You don't write angry emails at a book author for not immediately revealing the twist in the book at the start, do you? You don't purposefully cum instantly in 30 seconds when you start having sex and get mad at people who don't like to do the same, do you?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      God doesn't do evil things or make them happen. The things of this world are not coming from "Him". It's a misunderstanding. "He" is not doing these things to you or others.

      You're speaking from an entirely worldly perspective. I can't say anything to you, either, because it's your choice. Maybe you will change your mind eventually. When you're like 75 years old. Then we can talk about suffering.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >When you're like 75 years old. Then we can talk about suffering.
        Bro, come on! I don't even know if I will live that old! I don't even think you will! Can't we just go with 40 years, instead? everyone says it gets bad in your 30s.
        For fricks sake, what do I need to do to talk about suffering?
        >You haven't suffered enough to talk about it.
        Then I go though difficult pain for a year
        >you have suffered too much to talk about suffering, so you can't talk about it.
        NEET and chill out with everything I want for a year
        >Oh, you're too young. Come back to me when you're 30
        Okay, I will wait a couple years to 30.
        >40, b***h. No, actually 75, that way I will be dead and never have to talk about it.

        It doesn't even matter to me what God does or does not do to whom or what anymore. If He does cause the suffering, then He could easily have a good reason, as I pointed out. If He doesn't, then more power to Him. Doesn't mean the rest of what He's done is bad. I've got a life to live, hate, and love, and it takes far to much spiritual work to hope to escape it.

        also,
        >God doesn't do evil things or make them happen.
        >Why should I believe God is real if he makes everyone sick and old and die.
        Pick one. Does he or does he not make people sick?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >>Why should I believe God is real if he makes everyone sick and old and die.
          somebody else said that it wasnt me
          i think the demuirge does that making people suffer, and the archons. they're not god they are diametrically opposed to god but so le powerful on earth that many worships them out of fear

          point being, you dont seem to comprehend life when you are cool with a god being a tyrant, how will you obtain eternal life? a miraculous rapture and splendid spiritual transformation? presuming much about god, doing that. more like a .. request . and requests can be denied, as you are saying. how can you take risk of not having life, the kind you keep.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The things of this world are not coming from "Him".
        Who else could they come from? God is all there is.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What king could live without a queen? A dictator leaves only ruins.

          captch hmh8

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >projecting animal reality onto the divine
            Ah, the sadly limited cognitive horizons of the average /x/ poster.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            C'est la vie

            dwjj

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That "god" the abrahamic israelites have shoved down your throat since your birth, doesnt exist anon. Almost every religion is a dogmatic psyop. This corporeal place is temporary.

  11. 1 month ago
    Garrote

    What is old age? What is sickness? What is death?

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What reason do you have to believe there exsists no such thing as a god/gods?

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Superman went bald? That sucks.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You are not your physical body. Think of this like a uniform to temporarily stay in this place, except it needs a more... dramatic way of removing it.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because he is distant and the world is ruled by the demiurge

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If God made no sickness, no death, no problems, then Mankind would not have anything to overcome.
    We left Eden to prove to God that we can overcome anything put in our way. We will prove to God that we are indeed good, and we can overcome all evil.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When did /x/ become a shit-tier theology board? Every day there's got to be at least 10 threads that are just some LARPagan or gnostic moronhomosexual crying about "muh problem of evil" like it's a new discovery.
    >"heheheh, evil. Checkmate, Christians!"
    >foundational text of Christianity full of historical narratives concerning evil
    Yeah, we know about evil moron. We've explained it too. Get a new argument.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why should I believe evolution is real if we haven't evolved to live forever in perfect health yet?

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anon if i was God, i would do so much more bad shit you have no idea.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Patience is a virtue young padawan

      OP4M

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Don't forget that he ravishes women and likes rubbing shits in peoples faces. Malachi 2:3

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Oh look it's the ESL pajeet whose last shit thread got nuked

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        KEK, you still raging into this thread over your rapist god? You keep responding and allow that thread to live rent free in your head if you like mate. Keep wiener sucking Yahweh, but seriously go touch grass.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          How much do you make per day in the sweatshop?

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    On an infinity long timeline your life would be a blip so small it's indescernable. Point is, the afterlife, heaven and hell are ETERNAL. and that's what you should be worried about. Save your soul Anon. Repent, read your Bible, and walk the narrow path.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's complicated. Sometimes it's for lessons for personal growth, a self created choice to experience and learn from to not have to deal with again, or some metaphysical reason that isn't disclosed until you're dead. And sometimes it's that the medical industry isn't anywhere near as good as they'd like you to believe.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That would be the Sun.

    Look up the effects of radiation poisoning and look at the effects of aging.

    They’re the same picture.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >sick and old
    >die
    These are not the same.
    Death itself is gentle because Death is like Sleep. When you die it's like falling asleep, you fall into the other side. It's letting go.
    Age on the other hand is a curse. Aging does nothing except degenerate the vessel and turn it into a husk of its former self.

    It's such a horrible curse that an early Death may be preferable to aging/rotting away.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Read Pistis Sophia

    Alternative take on creation/reality

    We originate from a place without aging or suffering but wound up stuck here...

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe people sabotage themselves and blame god

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe because YHWH is the Canaanite god Mot -the Lord of Disease and Death...

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