Why do you believe in the paranormal/supernatural?

What exactly caused you to believe in stuff that most of people think is absolute bullshit and/or deranged nonsense?
Did you have an experience that proved to you there is something else than what we experience?
Something that cannot be explained or is not taken seriously by modern science?
I am curious as to what leads people to believe in the supernatural with conviction.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    iv never lost my childlike wonder of just keeping an open mind to anything, being religious all my life and hearing stories of miracles that 100% proven happened but cant be scientifically explained keeps me on my toes to take “weird or impossible” tales serously.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    OP here.
    I'll share my own experience, didn't do it in the OP as to not influence the flow of the thread.

    Basically, i have seen ghosts, full bodied.
    I have hear clear sentences being spoken in a empty room.
    The dead have spoken to me in dreams, giving me messages.
    I reached the conclusion that it would be moronic of me to deny the existence of the supernatural after experiencing these events.
    I do not know why it happens, but it just does.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/yRtqhlk.png

      What exactly caused you to believe in stuff that most of people think is absolute bullshit and/or deranged nonsense?
      Did you have an experience that proved to you there is something else than what we experience?
      Something that cannot be explained or is not taken seriously by modern science?
      I am curious as to what leads people to believe in the supernatural with conviction.

      so do you "believe" in the supernatural or not? make your position clear

      also, Ill invert the question, why do you believe in the natural? why do you believe in modern science?

      do you believe in science because you understand it? or because you see the "fruits" of science? what leads you to believe with conviction, that if modern science cant explain something, that means "it is not real"?

      and a second question, why are you asking that question? why are you curious about people that believe "bullshit, or deranged" stuff? do you want to "correct" them?

      how do you feel about them? do you feel your level of understanding is superior? if so, does that make your thinking, superior thinking?

      what do you think should be done about people that believe stupid shit?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        COWARD

        OP IS A COWARD

        look at this message , or this one

        https://i.imgur.com/SjPrJBg.gif

        >Try out this magic thing when I'm a teen on the off-chance its real (hey, it takes like 30min a day)
        >Start to feel something when doing these LBRP, energy circulation, etc.
        >Could be just my impression
        >Continue doing training for a year or so
        >Start doing divination, write down predictions
        >They come true most of the time
        >Do rituals
        >Not all of them work, but I know by the end of the ritual if it's going to work, this has never failed
        By now, there's too many things lining up with what I'm doing, unlikely things happening close to a ritual to make it happen, again and again.
        It's been over a decade, there's no room for doubt as far as I'm concerned, and I'm moving closer to bigger goals than merely material ones. I'm not anywhere close yet, but certain Apotheosis awaits, if not this time round then the next or the one after that.

        Before it's asked: I'm not interested in proving anything to anyone. Why would I be? Stop being lazy, with 30min a day for a year, you can prove it to yourself. If the secrets of the universe are not worth that to you, go back to the wagie cage and onions fridge and don't think about bigger things than the next Avengers movie. Eternity is not for the indolent.

        , you have no reply, cause you are COWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    nta but check what?
    >I see paranormal shit
    >ok I diagnose you with whatever to explain it away

    Doctors and psychiatrists will never be convinced that this shit OP sees is real, they will just dismiss it out of hand and pathologize it (And neither can OP prove that it's real for that matter).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >will never be convinced that this shit OP sees is real
      And what if they're not real? Are you gonna be so open minded that when some rando tells you that he sees and hears angels and says that they want you to give him all your money and your wife you're gonna give it to him?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, the point I'm trying to make is that we simply cannot prove whether or not the things OP saw were real, and neither can any professional. Whether or not OP believes that it is real is something he can only decide for himself.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >And what if they're not real? Are you gonna be so open minded that when some rando tells you that he sees and hears angels and says that they want you to give him all your money and your wife you're gonna give it to him?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        [...]

        Skeptic tactics are so funny, perfpmrers like me can see right through your subconscious conditioning tactics
        In these posts you:
        >shifted the goal posts
        >questioned if they did something not directly related to the topic as a conditional factor to prove themselves to you (when that was never something they needed to do in the first place)
        >forced a fake hypothetical scenario and billed it as fact

        There's more to it but seeing these tactics In EerieWeb arguments is so gay when you realize what's actually happening

        Face it fed, our faith is unbreakable.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Uh you show brain activity in [x] region...
        >So that means it didn't really happen!
        All psychological phenomena is real to the observer, it's their reality, maybe not yours, but it is theirs. Cogito ergo sum. Telling them that their thalamus or their parietal lobe or whatever lit up, or that they have Ghost-Farting-Disorder as outlined in the DSMV isn't going to change that. Even if more than one person sees it, then it just becomes "folie à deux". It's all cope, just constant cope all the way down.

        The only time you should be seeing a psychologist or a psychiatrist is if your psychological phenomena becomes so troublesome, so life impeding that you need to get rid of it, and then maybe some CBT or concoction of nootropics will help suspend things for a while.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This is exactly what bugs me. Of course if you craft a methodology and rhetorical/epistemological framework which you're always the Chad and everybody who disagrees is the Basedjak you're going to seem like the most logical. Like when "skeptics" claim that people who hold religious beliefs just have hyperactive agency disorder or they have some large list of cognitive biases. Which is ironic in itself considering evolutionary biologists don't even agree how likely agency detection plays a role in human behavior and there are studies that show traditionally religious people and practitioners of witchcraft have equal levels of agency detection as non-believers in the paranormal (agency detection was only higher in people with new age of folk supernatural beliefs). Which itself doesn't even invalidate it, it just shows a neural/ psychological correlate which is to be expected as almost fricking no one denies the correlation between brain activity and consciousness.

          That's all it is, are correlates and fitting observations within a different framework. What is synchronicity to one person is probability to another. What is a fine-tuned, ordered universe to a believer is a senseless, non-teleological existence only """""permitted"""""" (used in the most impersonal way imaginable) by the laws of physics. You can pretty much believe in the same thing with the same amount of evidence, yet one is seen as ridiculous and fallacious.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    only the paranormal still makes rational sense to me

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

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  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't, because the universe doesn't exist just because of the earth. But I frequent this board because the threads here are interesting.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I would say I'm massively skeptical, but more willing to admit agnosticism regarding it than outright disbelief. This is based of two experiences I had.
    >1. My wife's grandfather died around 3 AM after being hospitalized for a set of ministrokes we didn't believe were going to kill him. My wife and I, plus her sister, and her mother, all independently woke up completely lucid. Which seems like to odd of a coincidence.
    >2. Once, I had a dream where I clearly visualized a misty small plot used as a cow farm. It was at the bottom slope of two hills intersecting, built just outside of the forest. There was a rickety shack, shitty wire fencing, and a cow with long brown hair with hay in their hair. About a year later, I travel to the Appalachian mountains which is 10 hours away from me, and see that scene verbatim. Including the mist, shack, and the exact cow.

    Granted, I'm still not a believer. It's hard to believe when there is so much physics and neuroscience that essentially rules out the existence of paranormal phenomena plus the staggering majority of scientists rejecting it. But I guess I'm slightly more open to believing if I see anything overt.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a bit tired, so I didn't realize that I contradicted myself by saying I am agnostic/ don't disbelieve and saying I still don't believe. What I was trying to communicate is that I'm not as closed off as many other people are. My bad.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    imagine if a stranger barged into your room and whipped his large gigantic wiener out and broke your butthole in two and traumatized you and hes gone as quickly as he arrived after leaving you half dead and perfectly leaves no evidence behind whatsoever that could be traced back to him and even leaves a dildo about the size of his wiener in your room before he goes that have his fingerprints scrubbed off of it

    and then everyone you tell afterwards calls bullshit and tells you to prove it when you cant

    this is exactly what psychologists do to people who have paranormal experiences

    except instead of it being a physical being its incorporeal and its wiener can phase through walls

    you would end up living with this forever simply because there was no physical proof whatsoever
    and your door was unlocked and the man was perfect in his conduct like a serial killer

    this is the weight of what your doing when you invalidate other peoples experiences

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >why would you jump to that conclusion without getting yourself checked for psychological or medical issues first?
    OP here.
    People that passed away giving accurate information i had no way of knowing otherwise kind of escapes the realm of current medicine.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I am the paranormal/supernatural. I come to enjoy your normal/natural.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For those of you that have experienced paranormal shit, did you try finding it yourself or did the experience just come to you randomly?

    • 1 month ago
      Krishna

      i was an atheist and i wrote my honors thesis at Cornell on physicalism under Derk Pereboom. the mind-body problem. then i thought the govt was surveilling me and synchronicities started happening. i was reading the bhagavad-gita secularly and lightning was syncing to the verses and then i unified to the Brahman during turbulence on an airplane. when i was later interrogated (i think) the holy spirit started speaking for me and i started believing in God.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      randomly, never tried for it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Always random, I feel like seeing it out makes it less common, it has to come to you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I went out of my way to find it. Bad experience, do not recommend. If you're feeling spiritual, just be a Christian. Skip everything in-between. Some lessons you can only learn the hard way.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Try out this magic thing when I'm a teen on the off-chance its real (hey, it takes like 30min a day)
    >Start to feel something when doing these LBRP, energy circulation, etc.
    >Could be just my impression
    >Continue doing training for a year or so
    >Start doing divination, write down predictions
    >They come true most of the time
    >Do rituals
    >Not all of them work, but I know by the end of the ritual if it's going to work, this has never failed
    By now, there's too many things lining up with what I'm doing, unlikely things happening close to a ritual to make it happen, again and again.
    It's been over a decade, there's no room for doubt as far as I'm concerned, and I'm moving closer to bigger goals than merely material ones. I'm not anywhere close yet, but certain Apotheosis awaits, if not this time round then the next or the one after that.

    Before it's asked: I'm not interested in proving anything to anyone. Why would I be? Stop being lazy, with 30min a day for a year, you can prove it to yourself. If the secrets of the universe are not worth that to you, go back to the wagie cage and onions fridge and don't think about bigger things than the next Avengers movie. Eternity is not for the indolent.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why is OP such coward?

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the fact that i met the female me

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    no replies to the messages above

    but it figures from a selfish evil atheist, not interested in discussion or the truth, only interested in generating drama and chaos

    seriously, atheists arent human, lol

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because some things really dont make sense howmuchever logic you put into it, and we just attribute it to chance

    some ex that come to mind are
    kamikaze of 1200s (twice)
    why is most of world oil supply where it is
    why was us number 1 when it was really christian
    why indian peeps never have nightmares of ghosts
    meditating at 1330 local sidereal time
    etc, you know

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why did I have spiritual sex at the age of 8? Why did they eye frick me at 18. Why they went in my dreams to cuddle with me. Why they never stop to talk. WHY WJY WHY WHY SO MUCH SEX DREAMIE. WHO WAS THAT SCHZIO HOBO TELLING ME I WAS SUPPOSE TO MEET AT THIS PLACE TO TALK WITH THE INNER MACHINATIONS OF MY MIND ARE A NE NGIGMMA ANNME ENGIMA PATRICK? OH YEAH SAINT NICHOLAS BOULEVARD CHURCH OF POPE THE GREAT INTERSECTION JUNXTION

      Captcha: TTTT

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In a world where everything seems to be known, it’s comforting believing that there are just some things we’ll never understand. Also it’s just fun, being scared and uneasy is genuinely fun and exciting.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    COWARD

    OP IS A COWARD

    look at this message , or this one [...], you have no reply, cause you are COWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ALEXANDER THE GREAT ONCD SAID IF I WAS NOT ALEXANDER THE GREST ID RATHER BE ALEDANDER THENFGESTT . AND GUESS WHAT ALEDANDER THE GREAT SAID? ID RATHER BE ALEXANDER THE GREST. NOW GET OUT OF MY SPOT. YOU ARE BLCONIBG THE S SUN... HEY HEY DONT BE SCARED DONT BE AFRAID. DO YOU WANNA CUDDLE? LETS CUDDLE. OWW YOURE HURTING ME. OH IM SORRY I SHOULD BE MORE GENTLE. MMMMMMMM .. MMM YES BABY PUT IT IN OH SHIT IT FELL OUT U LIKE IT RAW? WHAT IF U GET PREGNANT. WHERE IS DADDY WHY IS HE AFRAID? WHY CAN HE NOT COME OUT TO TELL HIM I AM TAKING HIS DAUGHTER. BABY COME BACK. IM MY KNEES COME BACK. BEGGING COME BACK.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    belief is for morons.. people who know this stuff exist have experience with it and they know that belief is nothing other than pretense.

    "belief" is what you do when you don't have enough knowledge gained from your own experience to actually "know".

    second hand knowledge is 'belief'
    just because you follow someone else who knows does not mean you actually do.. and if they are wrong you have no means to verify or invalidate without your own personal experience of the source

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    if 'most people' were blind those who have sight would be less common but would have little difficulty recognizing the ability of the other sighted people if there were conditions that supported this to happen.. but if the majority had insured that light would be rare in their living spaces then the sighted might not often realize that they even are sighted and might not recognize others who are.
    the analogy carries over

    i have an abundance of experience with things that 'most people' would likely have great difficulty with if they had been present and witnessed the same.. in many cases they would reject their own perception so that they could remain in conformity to the herd that they follow.. not everyone values truth

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >was told things in dreams I couldnt possibly have known prior, like foreign words
    >have seen physical ghosts (which everyone tells me is Ball Lightning which is impossible)
    >chaos magik worked to solve a problem with impossible odds

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      "everyone tells me"

      "most people"

      if only one person knew for certain from direct experience it would outweigh the entire number of however many people have no knowledge

      the number of people who know may be very small as opposed to the number who do not know.. but the value of truth displaces the beliefs of those who do not have knowledge

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >was told things in dreams I couldnt possibly have known prior, like foreign words
      Yeah, the astral TED talk of "Preserve information, not your genetics," by Armaka was something interesting to watch. I understood her point but I still think it's important to leave your surroundings better than before.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Big cylinders of electricity arcs floating up from my floor to my ceilings and passing through. It could also be something passing through the 3d dimension, not necessarily a dead person ghost

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've had paranormal experiences with no other explanation than the supernatural. Or the preternatural, more specifically.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It must be so hard to want to believe in something you never experienced. I'm so sorry for you. I really am.
    Some of us never had a choice. I know it's impossible to believe if you're put of it. I didn't choose anything. I fought against it for so many years but it's inescapable.
    I'm so sorry for you people

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    On several occasions throughout my life, I've felt presences that are inherently Human like, but when I turned to look in their direction, no one was there. Most of the time I wrote it off as nothing.

    There were some instances tho that I couldn't simply write off so easily.

    Before my dad's house got burnt down, many years ago, I was on skype with a few friends when I felt a set of footsteps go infront of my bedroom door. Normally, because of this shitty house's design ( it was built in the 70s, the inner walls where just a set of thin wood Panels, there was frick all insulating between rooms ) , When my dad would walk past my room, I could feel every footstep. It felt exactly like that. After investigating the house, I noticed that Dad was gone to work. ( he worked nights at the time).
    This happened twice in one night, and it led me into going down into my basement, where I felt that sort of presence in the back of it. It felt like I was in someone else's house but I wasn't welcomed. I remember talking to it, saying something along the lines of " If you don't bother us, we wont bother you" and it seemed content with that since it never interfered with us beyond that. It just kinda lived there.

    Same thing sat on the corner of my bed one night too, right where I'd play the xbox. It was as heavy as a person sitting on the corner, weight and all. A little too real for me at the time.

    There have been other instances, but i dont have the character limit to type em out rn

    Sorry I don't come around here anymore, So I hope the fellow anons wont mid the long post.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >a genuine interest in the strange and esoteric
    >the failure of rationalism to convincingly explain the irrational
    >many stories from trusted friends and family members
    >blatant government and celebrity interest in parapsychology, ritual magick and mysticism
    >open mindedness and humility

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I started having some genuine spiritual experiences where I saw stuff that blew my mind, than I began applying myself to the study of magick slowly started seeing things unfold around me I couldn't explain. Poltergeist shit and whatnot, to the point even my atheist best friend acknowledged it.

    At this point it's just too much a part of my life and goals, I can't not believe in it anymore than I can not believe I have a heart that beats. I hope one day to create my own system and tradition of magick and instruct others on how they can walk this path to bring themselves and others to good ends.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The extrasensory phenomena that is slowly returning to me, no matter what I do to push it away. Other than that I can't help but shake the feeling that I almost made it out.

      >I hope one day to create my own system and tradition of magick and instruct others on how they can walk this path to bring themselves and others to good ends.
      Just keep planting seeds. Some will grow, as this is a probabilistic certainty, even if most of the soil is barren.

      It's only about two years ago that people are finally talking about the astral grids on /x/ and I've been screaming into that hellhole of a void for over six years. It takes time for things to develop, since it's basically institutional knowledge.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I just want something interesting to happen man

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes I do.
    >I was given a series of 13 prophecies in my dreams by a reassembling skeleton
    >They all came true
    >Had night terrors and various kid from hell things
    >Skeleton tells me that the last prophecy will make me forget the contents of the prophecies
    >I know all thirteen came true by the age of 11
    >all sleep shittery and problems disappear immediately after
    >Everything else is normal (well I'm here on /x/ but as normal as possible).
    >Only thing I can remember is the nightmares
    Don't look behind you Anon.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    high strangeness events must have some explanation. It might not even necessarily be paranormal phenomena but it must be something.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ive seen some shit in my day

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I was a total atheist and started to meditate intensely for hours per day, my eyes were opened.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If anything, the way this place willfully believes anything as long as its tinged with conspiracy or contrarianism has caused me to be even more wary of the idea of it being real.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    People have always thought they were right, that conventional beliefs would stand the test of time and that refining what we currently know is the key to progress. It's why people a thousand years ago probably couldn't imagine a society like ours. Maybe it's just me being an idiot but I'm not taking smarter people's word as dogma, they've been wrong before. I keep an open mind and accept that we'll probably never know everything.
    Cat>mule

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because i've experienced it several times and i'm not mentally ill nor stupid enough to alter my paradigm based on uncertainties. I made sure that what i experienced each time wasn't just a transitory hallucination, and if i lacked the means to confirm such things i just discarded the whole thing, which means i've probably experienced more paranormal occurrences than i give myself credit for.

    This is why i know there are things paranormal in nature today.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've experienced a lot of strange situations that I can't explain with simple le science.

    >Seen a fricking shadow darting across the room in two different houses, both also seen by different people

    >An ex's house was fricking cursed: things moved, after 11pm you'll hear banging coming from the attic. You weren't able to go in her room because some type of fricked up shit was happening there. I recorded voices close to us once.

    Shit was terrifying. I hope she's alright now.

    You can feel heavy atmosphere in certain houses and shit, not every house though. New houses or renovated homes tend to have a "fresh" feeling, but sometimes shits heavy
    Outside of those experiences, I've seen minucia happening that I don't really pay attention because I deemed it as normal or it belongs to "probably imagination" category.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Grew up in a haunted house think paranormal activities level of haunted but I was the only one being fricked with until I moved out
    ultimately I think that and the nightmares I’d have trained me for what I’d face doing a bunch of psychedelics over a long period of time
    And that coupled with all the books wrote by prior masters have really given me a walking dream sense of I am

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

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  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I see an angel and she tells me about the creator and love as the basis for existence.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do you believe in the paranormal/supernatural?
    Yeah
    >What exactly caused you to believe in stuff that most of people think is absolute bullshit and/or deranged nonsense?
    Direct, incontrovertible experience. Experience so direct that I'd have to disbelieve that eyes, nose, tongue, ears, body, and mind can lead one to believing 'real' that which is 'real' to ever even begin to deny it.
    >Did you have an experience that proved to you there is something else than what we experience?
    Yes. Saw some shit (fairies, a ball of light spirit, a demon or angry spirit, a ghost). I've also, besides seeing some shit, have heard, felt (via body), tasted, and smelled some shit as well. Like I said, the only way someone can convince me that there is nothing paranormal is to convince me seeing/etc. =/= seeing/etc, full stop. I have internal assurance and stable certainty.
    >Something that cannot be explained or is not taken seriously by modern science?
    It can be explained and taken seriously by modern science. They just have to stop standing on the premise that it's false before they've actually falsified it (aka be sane and earnest). Check out real magic by Dean Radin PhD if you want to read something at the intersection of science (with statistical rigor) and magic.
    >I am curious as to what leads people to believe in the supernatural with conviction.
    I looked earnestly and I didn't stop until it was properly falsified or verified. It ended up being properly verified. Anyone who doesn't know something and stops before starting and completing their search in just that way is a fool.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    sexo

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