Why are we so ignorant?

Why is knowledge inherently hidden and gatekeeped, meanwhile we are born ignorant?

Even if you subtract modern government plots and disinformation campaigns, being born in the wilderness, the teachings of the secret mystery schools would never reach you.

And those said mystery schools don't even come out with the "truth", it's always some elaborate secret society with rituals and rites referencing whatever the great secret is.

Whole thing feels like a unnecessary circle jerk.
If they wanted to eliminate the mystery schools and such they would destroy all evidence. They do it for other things. So they won't tell us outright, but they won't eliminate the knowledge either.

What gives? I feel like everything is an elaborate maze of overexplanation about something relatively simple

I dunno, I think I'm just tired of it all. Tired of being ignorant and aware of my ignorance

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The world is a game god is playing with itself. The goal of the game is for all parts of the world to have knowledge of all the other parts. Our ignorance reflects the fact that our game pieces haven't advanced much yet.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    EerieWeb has cultivated a culture that revels in willful ignorance

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I concur.
      If you had some real secret or power, would you bother teaching the people here?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      dumbass

      I concur.
      If you had some real secret or power, would you bother teaching the people here?

      Yea

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A number of reasons.
    Foremost being power, control, and wealth.
    If the secret societies and our hidden rulers keep knowledge to themselves, it makes us dumber and easier to manipulate, swindle, and control.
    Less competition.
    They can just make up whatever lies and bullshit they want and tell us it's true.
    Human history, who knows how much of it is false?
    They "accidently" burned the library at Alexandria. Who knows how much knowledge was "lost."
    Is the earth a toroid or maybe a sphere that's much larger than we think?
    They'll murder anyone who tries to approach the north or south pole to find out.
    They probably know exactly what happens to us when we die, but they proliferate tons of different religions, to make it harder to find what's true.

    Our rulers hate us.
    We're not even cattle to them anymore.
    They see us as useless eaters.
    With that sort of attitude, they probably sleep like babies after torturing people, raping and eating babies.
    They've completely abandoned any semblance of giving a shit about the people they rule over.
    They hide and hoard knowledge.
    Frick them.
    And then they laugh at our ignorance.
    They get their jollies off of seeing us suffer and die.

    That's part of the other reason they hoard knowledge.
    So they can feel special.
    Like they are superior to us.

    All stars goes through regular cycles of increased and decreased activity.
    Our sun is going to go supernova.
    When it does, it will kill almost all life on the surface.
    And a good amount of life underground as well.
    The elites will be hiding underground.
    The earth will go through an ice age.
    Everyone left on the surface, will be wiped back to the stone age.
    After a few generations, the descendants of the elites will emerge,
    with all of their knowledge, technology, and secrets preserved and intact.
    They'll be like gods to the people on the surface.
    They'll be able to make up whatever lies they want about our past, and everyone will believe them.
    They'll have no way to disprove them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      All it would take to balance this out is knowledge unveiled to the masses.

      If there is a higher power, why isn't this occuring?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Take this next part with a grain of salt, because I haven't done any research, and am just regurgitating things I've heard other anons say on /x/; stuff that made sense to me, but I have no way to prove.
        And I'm sure I'll probably get large parts of it wrong, and anons will make fun of me.
        With that out of the way, God or Source was the first god.
        He lived in the Pleroma.
        He was perfect but alone.
        So he created lesser gods.
        Each one was also perfect and represented ideas like, love or wisdom.
        One of the gods, Sophia, decided to try making a god on her own, without the help of Source.
        She created the Demiurge, the very first flawed god.
        Source immediately ejected the Demiurge from their home, the Pleroma, before he could infect it with his imperfection.

        Outside of the Pleroma, was nothingness.
        The Demiurge was lonely.
        So he created the material universe and all living things in it.
        Although he was flawed, he still possessed some of the divine spark from his creator.
        Since he was flawed, all of his creation was also flawed.
        We also possess a small fragment of the divine spark.
        But like the Demiurge we are flawed, and thus unable to enter the Pleroma (Paradise).
        Some schools of thought saw the Demiurge is evil, and has trapped us in a reincarnation trap.
        Where we endlessly reincarnate forever.
        If we left, who would the Demiurge have to torment?
        Other schools of thought say that the Demiurge is good.
        He did the best he could.
        Everything is flawed, but it wasn't out of malice.

        Source, the original god, lives in the Pleroma.
        He can't enter or interact with our corrupt, flawed, and tainted realm.
        He sent Sophia, the god of Wisdom, to help guide us.
        Some believe Sophia then sent Jesus to save us.
        I don't believe that though.
        Others believe that Sophia taught us a way to escape.
        Through each reincarnation, we need to cleanse ourselves and work towards becoming perfect.
        If we can achieve that, we can enter the Pleroma (paradise).

        continued in next post:

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Continued from last post

          The problem with this, is where did the knowledge get lost along the way?
          If it's Christianity, why did Sophia allow so many wrong and conflicting versions to exist to mislead people?
          If Sophia taught the secret societies how to escape, why does she allow the secret societies to hoard the knowledge?

          Alternatively, maybe Sophia never showed up in our universe to guide us.
          Wouldn't she get corrupted too, just by entering our universe?
          So if Sophia never comes to our universe to help us, then basically Source has no way to contact us.
          He either doesn't care or he simply has no way to interact with us.
          And our local god, the Demiurge, is either evil; or he's good but flawed.
          As to why the Demiurge doesn't balance out this knowledge, if he's evil, then he wouldn't want everyone to have knowledge.
          And if he's good but flawed, maybe he's like a stupid and misguided Boomer, that thinks we should pull ourselves up by our bootstraps; and thus hides knowledge.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Gaia-Sophia incarnated as the planet underneath your feet. We participate in her correction.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >stuff that made sense to me, but I have no way to prove.
          Then it's worthless. Why would it make sense to you if there's no evidence to prove it?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >If there is a higher power, why isn't this occuring?
        Obviously there isn't

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        There is, but not everyone is mentally strong enough to be able to wield it. That's the one factor no one in this thread has yet to address yet.

        • 2 months ago
          OP

          Could you elaborate

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not much left to say, I believe I was quite thorough.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I will say this howeverthoughbeit. There's a reason why the LORD tested the prominent figures in the Bible.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      and the cycle repeats

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        people are starting to catch on though..

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    because we have been deprived of the descriptions of wang-tiles and wang-tile formula. We are not able to take our wang-tiles and create sequences any more, the DNA computah has deprived us of this. Dont believe me? Look it up.

  5. 2 months ago
    Gwaihir

    Most of you don't even know math up to, but not including, calculus despite Kahn academy and mitcourseware offering it for free with video walkthroughs the entire way.
    You can teach yourself math physics chemistry biology and essentially prepare for the MCAT for free, yet you don't, and you cry here about knowledge being "gatekept".
    The only person gatekeeping you from knowledge is your own moronation.

    You're simply not interested in knowledge. By your own actions, you think it best to stick with your tulpas and pondering the "mysteries" of solipsism while playing in a pit of feces and marvelling over being "schizophrenic" like it's a badge of honor. Simple as

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Instead of insulting people, why not point people to some books or resources that you have personally found to contain useful information?
      And we're not talking about stuff like physics, math, or biology.
      While useful, that sort of discussion belongs on other boards.
      It's easy to insult people; literally anyone can do it.
      Why not contribute to the discussion?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        stfu dude

      • 2 months ago
        Gwaihir

        Because understanding math and physics and philosophy is crucial background information to understand further complexities derived from that background knowledge.

        I've contributed plenty here:
        https://archive.4plebs.org/x/search/username/Gwaihir/type/op/

        If you don't understand physics, math up to trig and precal, and the fundamental basis of science, you cannot possibly understand the meta-physics, and meta-philosophy,

        The fact that these OPs have very little interaction while moronic Nobody Generals draw 700 replies multiple times a day is proof of exactly how stupid most of you are.

        I don't have infinite time to repeat myself just to be ignored in preference for moronic shit day after day after day. I have four kids to raise into adulthood and provide for.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          holy shit dude kys

        • 2 months ago
          Gwaihir

          This is lorentz transformation formula. If you issue a simple "Let" statement:
          Let velocity (v)= the speed of light (c), this suggests that time and distance does not actually exist. Rather, it is an emergent property of mass' titration with light. If you approach a black hole, the asymptotic limit of mass-density (absolute density) it creates infinite time and infinite distance which is exactly the opposite of the asymptotic limit of the speed of light moving at infinite velocity in its own frame of reference.

          This suggests that photons view the universe as all mass existing exactly no distance from itself.

          What does that perspective remind you of? The moment before the big bang and the moment after the big crunch.

          When morons trip out on hallucinigens and come to the conclusion that we are all one and difference (distance) is illusory. They are absolutely correct; even if they can't detail exactly why that is the case.

          How can we not all be one? The time and distance between us is relative (subjective), at best, and nonexistent at the limit of reason.

          • 2 months ago
            OP

            I'm gonna stop you right here.

            Almost all modern physics is based on a lie started in the 20s and 30s by the people who are running shit. I would say israelites, but it's too much of an umbrella term. Einstein and Hawkings and all of them are misleading us, even leading quantum physicists. Regurgitating that hot garbage and thinking you are hot shit, shows how immature you are and how much farther the journey is for you

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          From your perspective it is but people have wildly different ways of thinking and coming to the same conclusions. Think about the different races in fantasy world like Warhammer.

          Saying this, I'm glad there are people like you sharing this information because it's really useful to me.

          • 2 months ago
            Gwaihir

            I'm not really interested in a chat-gpt disclaimer about how everyone is different bro. While you're in a mass-possessing flesh suit, that is obvious. When your spirit is free from its flesh suit it's omnipresent with all the other spirits, if such a concept is true, and then that statement is false, because it's massless, and moving at "c"

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          From your perspective it is but people have wildly different ways of thinking and coming to the same conclusions. Think about the different races in fantasy world like Warhammer.

          Saying this, I'm glad there are people like you sharing this information because it's really useful to me.

          I checked your link, lol, I take my words back.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/LLwZ6is.png

          This is lorentz transformation formula. If you issue a simple "Let" statement:
          Let velocity (v)= the speed of light (c), this suggests that time and distance does not actually exist. Rather, it is an emergent property of mass' titration with light. If you approach a black hole, the asymptotic limit of mass-density (absolute density) it creates infinite time and infinite distance which is exactly the opposite of the asymptotic limit of the speed of light moving at infinite velocity in its own frame of reference.

          This suggests that photons view the universe as all mass existing exactly no distance from itself.

          What does that perspective remind you of? The moment before the big bang and the moment after the big crunch.

          When morons trip out on hallucinigens and come to the conclusion that we are all one and difference (distance) is illusory. They are absolutely correct; even if they can't detail exactly why that is the case.

          How can we not all be one? The time and distance between us is relative (subjective), at best, and nonexistent at the limit of reason.

          >empirical science
          You already fricked up.
          Let me just ask you one simple question, is or is not God/Source limited by mathematics and logics.
          If yes, then He is not God, Creator of All Things. Math and logics would be the higher power, and all possible universes and manifestations would be subjected thus and realities outside this limit would not be possible.
          On the otherhand, if empirical math/logics/physics...etc. as we know them today is merely a description of just ONE kind of possible universe, like ours, then they are not true knowledge but temporary convenience to navigate a temporary illusion, like all of science.

          • 2 months ago
            Gwaihir

            The repeating pattern of the Logos is the Though of God (Ennoia) within the God-Mind (Nous). The God-Mind is not limited by the pathological rut by which the thought pattern manifests reality, but The Logos is (The Son) chooses to maintain the pattern to establish the consistency and stability of the creation.

          • 2 months ago
            Gwaihir

            That is to say, if the Son (The Thoughts of God-Mind) chose to constantly alter the pattern by which reality is manifest, then "science" would have no predictive potential, as the fundamental basis of science would constantly be changing, and require an entirely different model of physics and chemistry from minute to minute. There would be no science, and we would probably not even have life in a purely chaotic universe.

          • 2 months ago
            Gwaihir

            Suppose the Logos chose to suspend the phenomena of Gravity and ElectroNegativity of mass on a whim.....what kind of universe would we have in aftermath?

            I'm gonna stop you right here.

            Almost all modern physics is based on a lie started in the 20s and 30s by the people who are running shit. I would say israelites, but it's too much of an umbrella term. Einstein and Hawkings and all of them are misleading us, even leading quantum physicists. Regurgitating that hot garbage and thinking you are hot shit, shows how immature you are and how much farther the journey is for you

            >Science doesnt describe reality
            Feel free to test your hypothesis by jumping off the 10th story of a building.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >if the Son (The Thoughts of God-Mind) chose to constantly alter the pattern by which reality is manifest, then "science" would have no predictive potential, as the fundamental basis of science would constantly be changing
            This supposes the changes are forced to be undertaken within the temporal framework.
            who is to say these changes arent made and retroactively influence?
            the sims in a game dont notice if you go in and change the source code. No matter how many changes, it will feel to those inside like the current iteration has always been the way things work.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The God-Mind is not limited by the pathological rut by which the thought pattern manifests reality
            At least you know that much.
            >but The Logos is (The Son) chooses to maintain the pattern to establish the consistency and stability of the creation.
            >chooses
            There we go, thus possible creations is not limited by math/logics, free-will is the primal distortion and triumphs all.
            Now ask yourself, how would you, a current mortal, could possibly know what realities the infinite Logos have or have not created in the exercise of their free will.
            Empirical science as distilled from just one universe is not your meal ticket into the Mysteries, if it's even a truly honest description of this universe as pointed out by

            I'm gonna stop you right here.

            Almost all modern physics is based on a lie started in the 20s and 30s by the people who are running shit. I would say israelites, but it's too much of an umbrella term. Einstein and Hawkings and all of them are misleading us, even leading quantum physicists. Regurgitating that hot garbage and thinking you are hot shit, shows how immature you are and how much farther the journey is for you

            .

          • 2 months ago
            Gwaihir

            Why are you so concerned with the possibilities of universes you don't exist within, to the point where you disregard understanding the one you're in?

            You should be more concerned about the universe you are in, then the prospect of guessing at possible universes you are not within. Eschewing understanding of the universe you are within, automatically disqualifies you from any possibility of understanding the universes you are not within.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >If you don't understand physics, math up to trig and precal, and the fundamental basis of science, you cannot possibly understand the meta-physics, and meta-philosophy,
            And why are you so concerned with trying to gatekeep the mind of God with, in your own word, "the pathological rut by which the thought pattern manifests reality"?
            As for me, I am only concerned with modeling the physics of this universe insofar as it is needed in my daily life.
            My hubris is not so grandiose that I believe my universe is the only universe nor that I could model my way into knowing the limits and intention of the Divine through empiricism.

          • 2 months ago
            Gwaihir

            If I was gatekeeping I wouldn't have posted here in the first place.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >To know Y you must know X
            >X been actually not a pre-requisite
            Intentional or not, that is gatekeeping.
            Empericism is not by any means a prerequisite to spiritual enlightenment.
            Plenty of examples in both West and East.

          • 2 months ago
            Gwaihir

            Like I already said in

            The fact stands, before you get to the "mysteries" there's several years of precursor knowledge currently available for free with resources like Kahn Academy and MITOpenCourseWare. Knowledge is less gatekept now than it has ever been throughout the history of humanity. With all the information that is available for free, one could spend a lifetime accruing knowledge, albeit knowledge, itself, is not the path to salvation, only faith is.

            Knowledge isn't the path to salvation/enlightenment/redemption/reunion. If your education isn't leading your toward Christ and the Father, you're obviously headed in the wrong direction.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Whatever, the other guy is right. Youre going on the ignore list

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/k2aNGkH.jpg

            >To know Y you must know X
            >X been actually not a pre-requisite
            Intentional or not, that is gatekeeping.
            Empericism is not by any means a prerequisite to spiritual enlightenment.
            Plenty of examples in both West and East.

            The fact stands, before you get to the "mysteries" there's several years of precursor knowledge currently available for free with resources like Kahn Academy and MITOpenCourseWare. Knowledge is less gatekept now than it has ever been throughout the history of humanity. With all the information that is available for free, one could spend a lifetime accruing knowledge, albeit knowledge, itself, is not the path to salvation, only faith is.

            Like I already said in [...]
            Knowledge isn't the path to salvation/enlightenment/redemption/reunion. If your education isn't leading your toward Christ and the Father, you're obviously headed in the wrong direction.

            >if someone understands this teaching, even if he's illiterate he's a Buddha.

            .

            >The fruit of attaining the sramana stage is gained by putting an end to all anxiety; it does not come from book-learning.

            .

            >the intellectual undercurrent is not useful.

            .

            >Ordinary spiritual powers, subtle capacities, intelligence, and eloquence are totally useless here

            .

            >This cannot be penetrated by language or known by thought. Wisdom comes out in the village of infinite nothingness; spirituality is found in the realm of unfathomability. Where dragons and elephants tread is not within the capability of asses.

            .

            >If you happen to have little natural ability, then you should be natural and content with simplicity; why pretend to genius or aspire to intellectual brilliance?

            >If you spout vulgar inanities, you disturb the influence of the Way. Weaving miserable misconceptions, you cause trouble. Unconvincing falsehoods will increase later disgrace.

            .

            >When Xiangyan was in the community of Baizhang, his natural intelligence was brilliant and swift, but he couldn't attain

            >Guishan questioned him, "When you were at our late teacher Baizhang's place, you had ten answers for every question, a hundred answers for every ten questions. This was your brilliance and mental acuity, conceptualization of intellectual interpretation, the root of birth and death.
            read a book?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/k2aNGkH.jpg

            >To know Y you must know X
            >X been actually not a pre-requisite
            Intentional or not, that is gatekeeping.
            Empericism is not by any means a prerequisite to spiritual enlightenment.
            Plenty of examples in both West and East.

            The fact stands, before you get to the "mysteries" there's several years of precursor knowledge currently available for free with resources like Kahn Academy and MITOpenCourseWare. Knowledge is less gatekept now than it has ever been throughout the history of humanity. With all the information that is available for free, one could spend a lifetime accruing knowledge, albeit knowledge, itself, is not the path to salvation, only faith is.

            Like I already said in [...]
            Knowledge isn't the path to salvation/enlightenment/redemption/reunion. If your education isn't leading your toward Christ and the Father, you're obviously headed in the wrong direction.

            >"Zhangjing is right--it's you who's wrong. This is something that can be blown by the power of the wind--it inevitably disintegrates."

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Ma Ku, carrying his ring-staff, a went to Chang Ching. He circled the meditation seat three times, then shook his staff once and stood there upright. Chang Ching said, "Correct. Correct." Ma Ku also went to Nan Ch'uan: he circled the meditation seat three times, shook his staff once and stood there upright. Nan Ch'uan said, "Incorrect. Incorrect." Ma Ku then said, "Chang Ching said 'Correct'; why do you say 'Incorrect,' Master?"

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Nan Ch'uan said, "Chang Ching is correct; it's you who are incorrect. This is what is turned about by the power of the wind; in the end it breaks down and disintegrates."

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Namegay = full of shit.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everything is made to foster conflict and growth, probably not for your own benefit, and not the kind growth that you are familiar with. Things don't make sense from our perspective.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your post reminds me of the old science fiction TV show Babalon 5.
      In the future, man travels the stars and meets many alien races.
      Some of them are younger species, like humans.
      Others, aliens are much more ancient.
      The two oldest alien species are the Vorlons and the Shadows.
      Both try to guide the younger species, including humans, to learn, advance, and grow.
      But they disagree on the best methods.
      The Vorlons believe that peace and cooperation is the best environment for growth.
      The Shadows believe that war and conflict provides the best environment for growth.

      Stop reading if you don't want massive spoilers for the old TV show, Babylon 5.

      Eventually, both the Vorlons and the Shadows force humankind to choose between them.
      In a pivotal scene, the main character, a human, tells them both to frick off and leave the younger species alone.
      He rejects their false "choice" and chooses neither of them as his answer.
      The Vorlons and Shadows actually honor his answer, and leave the material universe forever.
      All of the younger alien species, including humans, are then free from the manipulating influence of the two eldest alien races.
      I watched this when I was a teenager, and it always has stuck with me.
      You don't always have to choose between the choices you are given.
      There is almost always other options that have been intentionally withheld from you.
      It was also super satisfying to see a human tell two species of fake gods to frick off and leave us alone.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like a good show. I have this theory that those two elder alien species went through soul death. I think the soul is a mix things that are contradictory so when a species chooses a side, they tend to become more and more polarized, either good or bad. This creates a domino effect that only leads to more polarization and less compatible souls being incarnated within the species. Those souls start incarnating within younger species creating somekind of cycle.
        I'm not really sure about this, the idea has flaws but it's something that has been in my mind.

  7. 2 months ago
    DaWizeWazoo

    Truth is like a door with multiple key holes. Knowledge is but one key and wisdom is the other. We aren't exactly born ignorant, but our society definitely raises us to be so. The way to truth exists within both writings and in the collective unconscious itself. We all have a way of accessing it through things like religion or science, but to make complete sense of it requires us to formulate it through our own minds. Experiences in one's life leads us to undeniable truths that only that single person could fully understand. Perhaps reality is slightly different for each person because of God's presence and his work within our existences. Even if information is withheld from a person, through critical thinking, observations of daily life, and our link to the collective unconscious we are able to find truth. Perhaps that is why the calcification of our pineal glands is so important to our leaders.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >we

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    village idiot
    that's why.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because we are a social species that depends on each other for physical, emotional, and spiritual needs.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >why are we ignorant?
    We drink too much coffee and spend too much time here.

  12. 2 months ago
    Gwaihir

    The fact stands, before you get to the "mysteries" there's several years of precursor knowledge currently available for free with resources like Kahn Academy and MITOpenCourseWare. Knowledge is less gatekept now than it has ever been throughout the history of humanity. With all the information that is available for free, one could spend a lifetime accruing knowledge, albeit knowledge, itself, is not the path to salvation, only faith is.

  13. 2 months ago
    Gwaihir

    It's interesting that you drag the conversation off into the weeds with Buddhist/Daoist thought while espousing anti-intellectualism, because the cultures where Buddhism and Taoism is predominant are generally the most intellectually rigorous cultures in the world, but whatever.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      nta, but although intellectualism/intelligence has its merits by dividing and understanding, this really leads to death. Which is why you will never gain enlightenment just by using the elemental principle of air, that cuts like a sword through the one and disintegrates for information and medium. It is important to have a balance in all things. All things. What anon shares is a bit weird, but it's worth contemplating.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's dangerous to try and force beliefs and ideologies into one mass rather than accept that truth is objective.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not me, that's somebody else up there quoting Eastern philosophy.
      That been said, for the East, they are just as anti-emperical. Else they'd ask you to reach Enlightenment through book reading and scientific experimentation instead of meditation.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah there's a big chance some of these quotes came from people who were among other things scholars or people with official positions [in the government] so that's a misreading on your part
      it's of course also ironic that they have a long rich history of literary works, incl. poems and verses
      they also tend to check on the validity of certain texts/claims, incl. historical accuracy
      dont mistake your hammer for your self or something?
      like (the meaning of) words not depending on the arrangements of letters and sounds per se, seeing as people can have different interpretations of a single word
      so how are you gonna tell someone knows what they're talking about or not
      because books aren't gonna keep telling ya

  14. 2 months ago
    OP

    Threads always go well until namegays appear, strutting around loudly as to validate their own existence

    • 2 months ago
      Gwaihir

      The thread was whining about "gatekept" knowledge. When presented with knowledge you whine about it not being the knowledge you're looking for. Knowledge evades you because you evade knowledge.

      Simple as

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you develop your ability to perceive through out of body states of consciousness you can make many observations about what actually does exist. Armed with even a small sample of real knowledge gained through direct cognitive perception you can approach the things of this world with a freshly opened mind and see the things that exist which align closely with the things that you have direct perception of through your own efforts.

    Beyond this there are other things that you may discover about the world around us that are known to very few and recognize the truth surrounding information from these sources no matter how they go about screening it away and out of view of the majority and the controlling narrative. Additionally you can use your developed cognitive perception to verify and/or invalidate otherwise unconfirmed sources of information.. don't believe what they tell you without using this form of cognitive perception to investigate the truth.

    I have a very considerable amount of knowledge gained through this means.. as well as other forms of advantage gained through the application of cognitive aptitudes ..but if you don't have a similar knowledge of this aptitude you are left with the same condition that existed prior to offering it no matter how much effort I put into transferring it to you. I could give a long lecture from the experiences I have with uncommon sources of knowledge and information.. but with the audience questioning the means of perception they really cannot appreciate the quality of what is being made available to them. To the truly unaware there is no easily accessible difference between ignorance and knowledge.. they have a very similar external appearance in the manner that they arrive and are made available.. and this is the greatest filter keeping the unaware away from attainment

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So what have you seen in OBE?
      Is the Earth flat?
      Are stars distant suns, or something else?
      What is at Antarctica?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I only see things when there is a natural connection.. I see a lot.. usually in the form of cognitive imagery during the sleep phase but it also happens that the cognitive imagery can arrive within the mind while fully awake so it really is a matter of being able to examine and scrutinize the cognitive imagery within your mind.

        The attachments happen for many reasons and there is a lot to learn about how and why this works.. and as experience goes you can often gather perception of things that you do not yet comprehend.. experience is the only way to gradually improve your understanding of what exists and what your relationship to it is.

        An objective reality does exist and those who have perception of it will be in unison no matter how much else to their individual experience has been shaped through limited regional and societal influence.

        It is astounding to me that you have concerns about things that you can comprehend through tangible analysis methods that were within my own comprehension very early in this life. Those who are responsible for your confusion have worked to create it through a very long term and wide ranged program of societal manipulations. To have much knowledge much effort towards the endeavor of learning must be made.. gradually over time this doesn't have to have the appearance of great effort. Become expert at the fundamentals of basic science concepts and principles and realize that the current narrative is no better than previously held narrative so it is a given that the precepts of the current narrative will be invalidated eventually.

        That having been said, there are many ways to view the same thing.. our perception of space is not similar to the concepts that are held by the beings from the stars. Geospatially oriented, the material is the same.. only the insights of comprehension are vastly different.
        If you are determined to be wise and knowledgeable you must be able to grow beyond what other humans are aware of.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why not join the O.T.O. OP?

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Life doesn't matter anymore and it has become very obvious everywhere you go.
    You can feel it when you are out in public, no one gives a frick about anything anymore. Even normies are blackpilled husks now.
    I go to work and basically just do nothing. I don't give a shit if they fire me, it literally doesn't matter at this point. I'm poor if I'm NEETing and poor if I work full time. This society is pointless.
    No community, no property, no families, no future. Where the frick do we even go from here?

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its very much intentional, i can assure you of that!

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because our perception is limited and our subconscious further filters the millions of inputs down to a couple dozen that we are even consciously aware of

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Prison planet, after our death we get mind wipe then sent back to produce loosh. Next gay thread

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're here to learn, you can't learn if you already know and so you must be born ignorant. There is nothing wrong in ignorance, so long as one does not remain ignorant.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Personally I prefer to have to manage myself into the end of the cycle with lgbt, short temper finger pointers and some mumble rappers than to manage grimoire wizards, priests and vodoo on every street corner... They can keep secret knowledge under closet for the moment.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the Reader's Digest article your image is from links to a list of "29 things your grocer won't tell you"... but if you click the link, the title of the article says it's 22 things... but if you look at the url it says 13 things... but if you actually look at the list there are 23 slides!? wtf clickbait mindfrick

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only thing that make you worth more than an other today is very simple, it is your ability to know the consequences of what you are doing over time...

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because game ceases to be without the veil of ignorance

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Surveillance Identity.

  27. 2 months ago
    no, buddy

    Ignorance is a gift you accepted by being born into this world where your identity and separateness from other guarantees its presence. Even if existence is infinite,that which we are ignorant of has a higher infinite cardinality still. This is why every finite thing that we know exists is surrounded by an infinity of things we do not know. Every piece of knowledge is lost in an endless void. It is not hidden, there is no gate and keeper, there is only the acceptance of ignorance. Secret teachings come from nowhere, anyone can learn them in the void. This is a freedom granted only to the ignorant.

  28. 2 months ago
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  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Since some posters already went there, I'll just say it.
    The teachings are not gatekept, you just gotta figure out how the transmission works and receive it.
    There's already mention of Logos, Sophia, etc. What the frick is it? It's spirit, a pesky little spirit that seems very eager to fix you right up and doesn't mind working whenever you let it.
    A teacher is very helpful with initiation, because you pick up directly what he lays down, no need for much words.
    A direct transmission from a teacher works in much the same way as the actual divine transmission.
    The second way is self-initiation, here you need to employ some cheats. The microcosm is mirrored on the macrocosm. Since the spirit in question is the dark, female, negative it's most easily perceived under Full Moon and on an empty stomach.
    If you have no teacher or are too socially challenged to find one through the internet or word of mouth, then fricking sit your ass down and get to figuring shit out.
    Once you know the mysterious spirit, the dark swirly, the pesky white light there's nothing stopping you going to the end.
    Life may never get you down again, if anything, you'll enjoy every second of it, knowing it will be your last. It's an end long coming, a graduation. The spirits of your kin will be blessed, should you succeed. If you die once here, you won't die after death. Maybe something more, or something less, who knows? Not you! There's no merit in reading The Bible, Kabbalah, Quran, while they all teach it, it's fricking wrong. The only right is to experience, see the way, be the way, then don't be. Instead of wasting all life to be something, sit down and be nothing. It will be more productive for humanity and our collective spirit should you even crack the door to truth a little more.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hey anon, just wanted to say to you and others I believe you can find happiness and joy. Others to connect with and help you can receive. Adventures to be had and dreams to follow. I hope for the best for you, and others as well. This message applies to others too.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    knowledge won't save you, you will never know everything

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Since there's universe talk in this thread, I don't suppose anyone here knows anything about traveling to other universes? Like if I had a specific one in mind and wanted to take someone with me? Sorry if off topic. Thank you, and I hope for the best for those here and elsewhere.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the problem you face is the simple fact.. that where every you go.. there you are.
      the hardest part of what you are describing is even recognizing that you have made any adjustment to your current situation at all. everything extrapolates into a transcribed version of itself seamlessly as you travel from here to there. it takes a lot of experience to even begin to see these transitions in terms of comprehension of the concepts involved.. based only on subtle elements of hints and trends within the array of forms around us.

      knowledge won't save you, you will never know everything

      things can be known.. but those who do not know can not perceive the basis of this.. they can not evaluate to judge the knowers or the subjects known. they do not recognize attainment of knowledge.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why are we so ignorant?
    WE?

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