What is Q in Star Trek meant to represent ? Some kind of cosmic jester?

What is Q in Star Trek meant to represent ? Some kind of cosmic jester?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Basically the Pleroma. Q is a collection of higher dimensional beings that exist in their own dimension and they can take on physical forms of any kind if they feel like it, and they take a role in guiding the development of intelligent species around the universe, usually much to their reluctance. They use humor because it’s disarming and probably because the work would be boring otherwise.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >around the universe
      There's no evidence Q has power outside our galaxy, and they arent the only reality manipulators out there.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        His motive and what he represents are probably not entirely consistent, as the different episodes he appears in are written by different people, but there is sort of a common theme, at least in TNG.
        He's a bored jester like entity who has become fond of either Picard specifically or humanity as a whole, and thus has decided to help them advance to a slightly higher stage out of curiosity. He likes us probably in the way that a drunk likes the rooster he put 10 bucks on in the wiener fight.
        A lot of his 'tests' seem more serious and premeditated(the Trial episodes, the time Picard almost died and time travelled back to his Academy days etc.) but overall I think his relationship to humanity is more casual, and most times he just throws in a lesson at the end of his shenanigans as a little treat.

        The Q have been implied to be the most powerful reality manipulators in the ST canon. That episode where he gets his powers taken for being a frick showed that he regularly fricks with lower tier reality warping energy beings just for the fun of it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >have been implied
          Only by the Q themselves.
          >he regularly fricks with lower tier
          Does not imply they are the top in any way.

          https://i.imgur.com/aJq4zRM.png

          The Q-continuum literally exists outside of our galaxy and is able to penetrate 4D~5D space anywhere in the known universe and sure there are a handful of reality manipulators like the Organians, the Metrons, and Trelane, but none of them are as powerful as the Q, and this confirmed by the writers of the shows, books, comics, etc. In the Star Trek comic they even have them compete against each other but the Q are the top of the reality manipulator food chain.

          >literally exists outside of our galaxy
          Nope, exist in higher dimension, but there is no proof they have influence outside the galaxy. Citation, please.
          >but none of them are as powerful as the Q
          I already posted one you didnt mention that is shown just as powerful as the Q in TOS, not to mention there are plenty oif beings in TOS and in the the animated show that match the Q's ability.
          >but the Q are the top of the reality manipulator food chain.
          Nothing shows that, and the only ones who want you to think that are the Q.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >galaxy
            you mean universe right?
            he's said many things that have implied him and the Q have traveled the universe from its beginning to its end countless times.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No, galaxy. Despite people like you saying that, ST has very much been contained to one galaxy save for very few exceptions.
            Go ahead and cite your examples.

            You make a fair point that it's mainly the Q promoting the idea that they're at the top, however I'm pretty sure the goofy face guy you posted is low tier. His motivation and personality made it seem like he lacked the Q and other careers level of awareness of the great of the universe. That dude who Epsteined the Husnock by accident is probably at the same level as Q though.

            >His motivation and personality made it seem like he lacked the Q and other careers level of awareness of the great of the universe.
            Projection. He was curious, but aloof, and had no consequence whatsoever for its meddling. It never had to approach the humans for help, like the Q have done multiple times.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Oh yeah, I always forget the Delta and Gamma quadrants are still just the milky way.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Novels get into why its so contained, and the main part of that IS the Q Collective.
            >In the Q-Continuum novels, the Galactic Barrier is revealed to be a creation of the Continuum used to keep a being known as “0” out of town, and the psionic qualities of a Q sentry contained therein are, therefore, what causes a fuss to the Gary Mitchells of the world. (a psychic who died from entering the barrier)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Are the novels worth reading? I hear there regulated a little worse than the Star Wars novels were, but I also hear they have a bunch of stuff about Julian and Section 31 that sounds interesting.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            To Data: "There are creatures in the universe who would consider you the ultimate achievement, android. No feelings, no emotions, no pain – and yet you covet those qualities of Humanity. Believe me, you're missing nothing. But if it means anything to you, you're a better Human than I."

            here is a clip of Q transporting Voyager to the beginning of the Universe. Which is outside of the Milky Way Galaxy

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the beginning of the Universe. Which is outside of the Milky Way Galaxy
            No it isnt. The universe began at every single point. You are sitting where the universe began. So am I. So is the Andromeda galaxy.
            Still not seeing anything that says they have power outside the galaxy. I'd say the books I cited show they deliberately closed themselves into the galaxy.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            WTF you are just a sore loser and haven't watched star trek enough. He teleports Voyager to before the universe existed. Thats proof he can exist outside the universe because we're literally seeing him do that. Stfu

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >lower decks reaction image
            I'm not even him but you should feel just a little ashamed.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >He teleports Voyager to before the universe existed.
            And? Ministry of Time could do the exact same thing. You dont have anything to back up your claims.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I JUST SHOWED YOU A FRICKING VIDEO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THATS EVIDENCE YOU ARE JUST moronic

            THE FRICKING ENTERPRISE EVEN LEFT THE UNIVERSE WITH THE HELP OF THE SPACE PEDO
            ITS STRAIGHT moronic TO THINK Q CANT

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Alright the schizo Sisko image being properly used for a tism fit redeems your prior lower deck posting.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The universe began at every single point
            Jesus man you will bend over backwards to try to be right. Is this a troll or what?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            And you wont? Go ahead and say you were wrong and you wont feel so mad any more.
            Time travel is trivial in Star Trek. So much so there is an entire organization dedicated to making sure the timeline isnt too fricked up.

            https://i.imgur.com/nelmQlO.jpg

            I JUST SHOWED YOU A FRICKING VIDEO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THATS EVIDENCE YOU ARE JUST moronic

            THE FRICKING ENTERPRISE EVEN LEFT THE UNIVERSE WITH THE HELP OF THE SPACE PEDO
            ITS STRAIGHT moronic TO THINK Q CANT

            Calm down. you're mad. Time travel is trivial in Star Trek, they didnt move location at all. Try to watch what you show better.

            > Nope, exist in higher dimension, but there is no proof they have influence outside the galaxy. Citation, please
            In voyager s2e18 Q takes the voyager crew to observe the Big Bang. In Picard season 2 Q takes the crew to an entirely different universe.

            The Star Trek cartoons aren’t canon.

            >In voyager s2e18 Q takes the voyager crew to observe the Big Bang
            Been over that multiple times now.
            >In Picard season 2 Q takes the crew to an entirely different universe.
            Dimensional travel you mean? Again - this is easily accomplished by many beings and is NOT sho0wing any ability of the Q to get outside this galaxy.
            All these people and they cant show a simple thing because they cant admit to themselves that I am right.

            > The universe began at every single point.
            That’s not true, and If that were true then we would be able to see beyond the cosmic microwave background.

            No, that is quite moronic. We know this is true BECAUSE the CMB is so consistent and ubiquitous.

            The Q are supposed to be to the Star Trek humans the equivalent of what the gods were to ancient humans. The one that visits Picard is the trickster god, who is actually helpful to humans even though he is difficult to deal with.
            TNG was made in a very b*sed era.

            So the Q keep saying. Funny how everyone wants it to be true.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You deserve to die.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >they hated him for he spoke the truth

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Calm down. you're mad. Time travel is trivial in Star Trek, they didnt move location at all. Try to watch what you show better.
            Yes I'm mad you are making a mockery of basic science.
            The Big Bang occurred somewhere between 13 billion light years to 43 billion light years away from the milky way galaxy. If Q traveled back in time he moved many billion of lightyears away.

            Q brought Picard to Earth 3.5 billion years ago.

            That means he also moved roughly 7 light years in Earth's past too. I shouldn't have to explain these basic concepts to you. Moving back in time is also moving back in space.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >13 billion light years to 43 billion light years away from the milky way galaxy
            Just plain wrong.
            https://profoundphysics.com/did-the-big-bang-happen-everywhere-at-once/
            >The Big Bang did happen everywhere at once. This is because in the beginning, all distances between separate points in the universe were zero and at the moment of the Big Bang, these distances became non-zero and the universe began expanding. This happened to all separate points, everywhere at once.
            There is not a single place in the universe where the BB did not happen.
            >The Big Bang did not happen at any single point. This is because at the beginning, all distances in the universe were zero. Every point in the universe was therefore effectively in the same place, which means that the Big Bang did not happen at any particular point, it happened everywhere.
            They did not move from their spatial location, they moved in time. That time and space are inseparable does not mean you cannot move in one without altering your dimensional measurements in the other. that is why time can be considered a dimension on its own.
            Not a single person has shown any Q outside of our galaxy.
            As I said - time travel is trivial. There is an entire institution dedicated to making sure all the time travel doesnt frick up the timeline too bad.
            >In the 31st century, time travel was commonplace. Federation temporal agents from this time became involved in a Temporal Cold War, which eventually led to temporal wars.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            God. FRICKING. C7R C IFXFIXUFXDUXPDYKXTZSTXDYX

            WATCH THE FRICKING VIDEO
            THEY WERE OUTSIDE OF THE BIG BANG NOT INSIDE OF IT

            WHICH MEANS THEY TRAVELED BILLIONS OF LIGHTYEARS

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They were literally outside of time and space. Don't get mad at him he's probably just messing with you at this point.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They went to the moment of the Big Bang, not outside of it.
            And that does not include any spatial movement.

            They were literally outside of time and space. Don't get mad at him he's probably just messing with you at this point.

            >Quinn dangerously transports Voyager to the time of the Big Bang
            Not my fault the canon is explicit. they were not outside of time and space, and they did not move outside the spatial location of this galaxy.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They traveled to a point where the galaxy literally did not exist.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They traveled to the moment where everything existed in one point. Hardly the same as it not existing.
            And as I have repeatedly pointed out - time travel is trivial, it doesnt show anything godly any more than teleportation does.
            >all these hours and not a single person can show the Q having any influence or power outside this galaxy
            >all these anons mad at their failure

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The Milky Way galaxy didn't begin forming until about a billion years after the Big Bang.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            And as I have repeatedly pointed out - time travel is trivial, it doesnt show anything godly any more than teleportation does.

            nta
            Is your position that the Q probably or definitely are limited to the galaxy or a general region? Or that there's just no evidence they're throughout the whole universe, so we shouldn't assume they are?
            I always assumed their powers would unlock the ability to access the whole universe, but I also didn't think about it that hard when watching

            My position is that there is no evidence that the Q have power or influence outside of this galaxy.
            There IS evidence from the books that this is deliberate on their part to keep out an entity powerful enough to threaten them.
            My point alongside this is that the idea of the Q being the top or most powerful in this galaxy is deliberately fed to us BY the Q, and that there are plenty of other powerful beings to point to that cast that supremacy in doubt.
            People want to point to the Q because they are the most meddlesome, but that very act IMO shows they are lower than these other beings that truly act like humans are insignificant to them, instead of asking for their help and seeking their females to mate with.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            makes sense
            if I do the overly syncretic thing, then Q is like Rick Sanchez. a mundane, limited "god" who plays only within the walled garden they made for themselves

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don’t know what “godlike abilities” entails, but that doesn’t matter to me because I wasn’t arguing the Q had them. I am simply making the case that if they can travel to a point in space and time that exists before the Milky Way galaxy was formed, or they can travel to/create parallel universes then their powers or abilities probably aren’t limited to the physical confines of our Milky Way galaxy. The only thing I know about the Q’s powers that were explicitly stated in the shows were that they were “nigh-omnipotent”, but that could simply mean they capable of doing virtually anything besides committing “Quicide”.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >then their powers or abilities probably aren’t limited to the physical confines of our Milky Way galaxy
            Everything shown has not been able to support this. They travel in time, not in location - which many many creatures are shown able to do. The dimensions they go to are never shown to be under their influence, and never shown top go outside their galaxy either.
            there is simply zero evidence of the Q having the power you want them to, and the multiple multiple people in this thread confusing the events of Star Trek to being intergalactic shows that you really havent thought about this before this point and are just defending bad headcanon.
            >The only thing I know about the Q’s powers that were explicitly stated in the shows were that they were “nigh-omnipotent”
            Yeah, said by the Q. But thank you for pointing out that you are ignorant of this info.
            Weird that you think that makes you authoritative.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >so upset he becomes Black person science man

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >and i can show you EXACTLY what I ate for breakfast this morning
            Are you sure about that mr. science man? I thought there was a reason they're building large particle accelerators to figure out what things are made of, because you don't actually know what matter is.
            Thus you don't know what your breakfast is.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            nta
            Is your position that the Q probably or definitely are limited to the galaxy or a general region? Or that there's just no evidence they're throughout the whole universe, so we shouldn't assume they are?
            I always assumed their powers would unlock the ability to access the whole universe, but I also didn't think about it that hard when watching

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > The universe began at every single point.
            That’s not true, and If that were true then we would be able to see beyond the cosmic microwave background.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You make a fair point that it's mainly the Q promoting the idea that they're at the top, however I'm pretty sure the goofy face guy you posted is low tier. His motivation and personality made it seem like he lacked the Q and other careers level of awareness of the great of the universe. That dude who Epsteined the Husnock by accident is probably at the same level as Q though.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >other careers level of
            Meant other reality warper's awareness of the universe. Frick autocorrect.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > Nope, exist in higher dimension, but there is no proof they have influence outside the galaxy. Citation, please
            In voyager s2e18 Q takes the voyager crew to observe the Big Bang. In Picard season 2 Q takes the crew to an entirely different universe.

            The Star Trek cartoons aren’t canon.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Q-continuum literally exists outside of our galaxy and is able to penetrate 4D~5D space anywhere in the known universe and sure there are a handful of reality manipulators like the Organians, the Metrons, and Trelane, but none of them are as powerful as the Q, and this confirmed by the writers of the shows, books, comics, etc. In the Star Trek comic they even have them compete against each other but the Q are the top of the reality manipulator food chain.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the Q are scared of the Borg

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The Borg do own like half the galaxy
            Even for reality manipulators that's gonna be a big deal

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No they're not. They don't want to interfere with the Borg too much because they see the Borg as a driving force for evolution, spiritual development and technology in the Galaxy. If you accept Picard as Canon, Seven of Nine is a sort dry run of Q influenced human apotheosis

            I thought they do go outside the galaxy. that woman picard had the hots for that went galavanting with Q across the universe. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708586/

            Q laments that they never left the Milky Way in theirtrip. But does explicitly state he can take Vash to other galaxies.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They're not though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I honestly don't think the Q would be the Pleroma, because there's too many negative aspects about it.

      For example in one of the later episodes (not next gen but I forget which series) they talk about how everyone in the Q continuum is basically bored out of their mind, and when humans go there they see a representation of the continuum (because I guess they can't perceive the real thing) as a boring house on a farm or something.
      That's why Q (the one from OP's pic) is a troublemaker because he's just trying to find some entertainment.

      That sounds more to me like archons or fallen angels who are still bound to this dumb reality, unable to go beyond because they don't seek it.
      I think there are higher levels of this game we're playing, and by cutting us off from those levels they think they can keep us totally controlled. But humanity will do what they never had the courage to do, which is to go beyond this game altogether. <-- and that is what I'd call the Pleroma.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        Also in one of the episodes it was hinted that humans might go beyond the Q. So that makes perfect sense with what I wrote here:
        >But humanity will do what they never had the courage to do, which is to go beyond this game altogether.

        I always got the vibe that Q (the one we all know) deep down really wants humanity to surpass him individually & the Q Continuum collectively
        in my mind what he wants most is something truly novel, he's bored of the status quo & wants something really disruptive like that
        something where the Q isn't in control, he doesn't know what will happen next, but thinks humanity would take it in an interesting direction

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The only reason I didn’t equate them to archons is because archons are commonly associated with the planets in our solar system. I also have no reason to assume all aeons are happy or that they never get bored or go off script or anything, because if that were true then I doubt Sophia would have produced the demiurge.

        To me they are like the pleroma because they’re a unified conciousness with reality bending powers. For all I know the Q could just be us from the future and they’re meddling in human affairs in our timeline so that we don’t become exactly like them. Maybe they feel limited in ways that haven’t been made evident yet within the trek lore. Maybe I’m their hubris they’ve effectively locked themselves out of the pleroma and need our help to return.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You aren't on Kether yet, then. All the lower aspects come from Pleroma for a reason.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/5R630JP.jpg

      I honestly don't think the Q would be the Pleroma, because there's too many negative aspects about it.

      For example in one of the later episodes (not next gen but I forget which series) they talk about how everyone in the Q continuum is basically bored out of their mind, and when humans go there they see a representation of the continuum (because I guess they can't perceive the real thing) as a boring house on a farm or something.
      That's why Q (the one from OP's pic) is a troublemaker because he's just trying to find some entertainment.

      That sounds more to me like archons or fallen angels who are still bound to this dumb reality, unable to go beyond because they don't seek it.
      I think there are higher levels of this game we're playing, and by cutting us off from those levels they think they can keep us totally controlled. But humanity will do what they never had the courage to do, which is to go beyond this game altogether. <-- and that is what I'd call the Pleroma.

      Also in one of the episodes it was hinted that humans might go beyond the Q. So that makes perfect sense with what I wrote here:
      >But humanity will do what they never had the courage to do, which is to go beyond this game altogether.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The other characters the actor has played are similar to Q?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He voices a character in my little pony that's basically a Q. The other character I can think of was the breaking bad air traffic controller who is too depressed from his daughter's od death so he causes a plane crash, that one's not very Q like.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it was a jester hazard

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    he's the shitlib's superego, it's not that deep anon

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think he is meant to invoke something like an absurd reality at times like Camus. Humans have to have values they impose on reality and that is usually how they get around his crap.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Gods, essentially.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    star trek was created with channeled information

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's what I'm curious about. People who've been in the depths of drug use or insanity report sometimes encountering three kinds of beings Angels, Demons and Jesters/pranksters

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Enjoy the show.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    au contraire, mon capitan

    he couldn't be more serious

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Q are supposed to be to the Star Trek humans the equivalent of what the gods were to ancient humans. The one that visits Picard is the trickster god, who is actually helpful to humans even though he is difficult to deal with.
    TNG was made in a very b*sed era.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I bet Q's real form is so monstrously hideous that it would break your mind instantly.
    In retrospect though Q could have ended or solved a wide variety of threats. He never explains why the Continuum doesn't help.
    But we're less than dogs compared to them so it probably didn't even register as something more than a fight at the dog park.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Continuum as a whole doesn't give a shit. Q himself either doesn't give a shit or thinks he's helping more by trolling the Enterprise into learning lessons the hard way. That said he did offer to fix a bunch of shit when he offered to join their crew, he just did it knowing Picard would turn him down. Personally I think the DS9 episode proves he's 90% trolling but does genuinely like Picard.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > He never explains why the Continuum doesn't help.

      He literally prevents the borg from destroying the federation and effectively brokers a peace deal between the “watchers” and “legion”, engineers first contact with humanity in 2024, and prevents the federation from becoming Warhammer 40k In Picard season 2.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ...? 2024?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Time travel. Romulans and El-Aurians secretly maintain presence on earth since at least the 1700’s but probably longer. Guinan is a bartender in LA [right now]. Watch the show if you care, I’m not gonna explain the entire plot of 3 seasons of the show to you.

          I've never seen Picard, is it as bad as everyone says?

          I liked it. I don’t know what other people think about it, I never read reviews. You guys will complain about everything anyway, and I’m very forgiving to Star Trek as a franchise since I’ve been watching it since I was a child.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Do they finally explain who the frick Guinan is in that show?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Kinda, you get a lot more info on her backstory than most of the trek franchise had previously explored.

            Wasn't Guinan an outcast from a destroyed civilization

            Her species was scattered by the borg.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Wasn't Guinan an outcast from a destroyed civilization

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I've never seen Picard, is it as bad as everyone says?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The show is fine on two conditions:
          >you arent so EerieWeb redpilled that you cant enjoy basic liberal programming
          >you dont mind some pretty blatant shitting on canon to make things more topical to today, eg - the Federation utopia is a sham and most people on Earth still struggle with some sort of daily grind or lack.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This tbh, but Star Trek kind of filters out most EerieWeb types because it's literally a show about fully automated intersectional luxury gay space communism where even robots have rights.

            I love it, it's one of the few franchises on TV that depicts a non-grimdark, non-cyberpunk, post-scarcity future. Call me a cornball all you want but that's significant to me, I like to imagine that we as a species won't always be doing the same lame shit we've done for the past 12,000 years.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >it's one of the few franchises on TV that depicts a non-grimdark, non-cyberpunk, post-scarcity future
            But that's my point - Picard shat on that, revealing this ideal society to be a facade, with most residents still in gritty struggle.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Oh come now, it wasn't that bad. Picard was an attempt to do a gritty show in an arguably utopian setting. I would still prefer to live there than here, as I think most fans of the franchise would.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >an attempt to do a gritty show in an arguably utopian setting
            >one of the few franchises on TV that depicts a non-grimdark
            As I said - it's fine if you can look past it shitting on canon.
            >I would still prefer to live there than here
            It's literally the "you will own nothing, and you will be happy" meme.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Picard owned a vineyard that was passed down by his family for centuries and lived with his friends and produced wine for fun, and explored the galaxy because he thought it was neat. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            And the show makes it a point to dress him down for that "sheer fricking arrogance".
            As I said, it's a fine show, I enjoyed it, but I'm not blind to how it radically altered what was known as fact about the main Federation planets.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes at this point he is just troll.

            They went to the moment of the Big Bang, not outside of it.
            And that does not include any spatial movement.
            [...]
            >Quinn dangerously transports Voyager to the time of the Big Bang
            Not my fault the canon is explicit. they were not outside of time and space, and they did not move outside the spatial location of this galaxy.

            No you moron. Watch the video. Quinn literally says they are outside of the universe. Why don't you understand this

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Quinn literally says
            The Q say a lot of things. You keep believing them. It's funny.
            Canon is they went "top the time of the Big Bang". Quinn lied because they like humans to think they are omnipotent.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            WE ARE SHOWN THAT THEY ARE OUTSIDE OF THE UNIVERSE

            EVERYTHING ELSE IS YOUR HEADCANON

            YOU ARE CONFUSING YOUR HEAD CANON WITH WHAT IS SAID AND LITERALLY, LITERALLY SHOW BY THE MONITOR THEN BACKED UP BY TUVOK AND HARRY

            FRICKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKLLLKKMKKM

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >WE ARE SHOWN THAT THEY ARE OUTSIDE OF THE UNIVERSE
            No, we arent. They went to the time of the big bang. Quinn lied, just as all the Q do about their position.
            And it's funny that in your rage you have gone from outside the galaxy to outside the universe.
            You';ve given your "evidence", and it fails.
            Why does it bother you that you are wrong about this?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Quinn lied
            This is headcanon. All supporting evidence in the clip I provided proves Quinn was telling the truth

            It's funny you don't consider outside the Universe it be outside the Galaxy.

            Why can't you just accept the Q have universal power? Why does this destroy your headcanon so badly

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Official canon contradicts what Quinn SAID.
            You misunderstand the clip, they are at the moment of the Big Bang, as it shows. they are not outside the universe.

            I thought they do go outside the galaxy. that woman picard had the hots for that went galavanting with Q across the universe. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708586/

            Nothing in Star Trek ever takes place outside our galaxy. Not even the time travel.

            Q absolutely went outside the galaxy, this anon is just being a homosexual

            And yet despite hours and hours of you raging in all caps, you have no support for this claim.
            The Q are contained within the Milky Way Galaxy. This MIGHT be their own doing, but it is clearly true.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            there was that one time with the Traveller
            and that unstable wormhole those ferengi got trapped behind, wasn't that in the ass end of nowhere?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >there was that one time with the Traveller
            Yes, The Traveler is another example of those possibly more powerful than the Q Collective.
            The Barzan wormhole connected alpha quadrant to shifting points in the Beta, Gamma, and Delta quadrants - nothing outside the galaxy.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I am absolutely not interpreting the clip wrong nor does it contradict Canon. Another headcanon from you.

            >Nothing in Star Trek ever takes place outside our galaxy. Not even the time travel.

            Kirk’s Enterprise crosses the barrier into intergalactic space deliberately (The reasons for this mission are vague) in “Where No Man Has Gone Before”. It does so again after capture by the Kelvins in “By Any Other Name”. The Enterprise is forced into intergalactic space a third time in “Is There in Truth No Beauty” due to sabotage by the mentally ill Larry Marvick.

            The Enterprise-D travels to a distant galaxy due to the influence of The Traveler while testing a new warp drive in “Where No One Has Gone Before”.

            Voyager leaves the galaxy (and indeed the universe) by traveling into Fluidic Space in “Scorpion”.

            The USS Discovery frequently transits through the mycelial network, which technically does not exist within the universe, and thus technically counts as leaving the galaxy, however it is not possible to use the mycelial network to jump across the galactic barrier as the network itself “thins” as it approaches it, however, Discovery crosses the barrier by conventional means in the episode “The Galactic Barrier”, and Book’s Ship has followed it by “Rosetta”.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I thought they do go outside the galaxy. that woman picard had the hots for that went galavanting with Q across the universe. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708586/

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It’s made evident in the show that Q has been engineering events and assisting humanity for at least hundreds of years.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    QAnon. Its predictive programming by the Deep State, battling against a time traveling Baron and Donald Trump.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong thread, Sherlock.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine being so obsessed with a boomer meme that you create a bot to spam any thread that uses the letter Q.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's dedication for sure. I hope things work out for him.

          The other characters the actor has played are similar to Q?

          John de Lancie has essentially been typecasted as a Q.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He's just a little guy with a lot of time on his hands.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the sad part is that this conversation (debating the capabilities of a fictional character) is still more interesting than most of the things discussed on /x/ every day and I think that's why we're still here.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He kind of comes across to me as Picard’s guardian angel. It kinda makes sense that a self-serious guy like Picard would be challenged to grow from difficult situations by a guy who knows exactly how to push his buttons.

      Hey, I can’t complain about there being a good thread on /x/

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Q absolutely went outside the galaxy, this anon is just being a homosexual

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Q lies too much to believe him. In TOS they meet another god that is proven to be an actual god that can be defeated. And in TNG they meet a supposed god that is really just an advanced starship.
      It would be very on brand for Q to be just another in a list of egomaniacal super beings.
      After all despite his incredible powers he still can't do everything.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        In both of those instances the crew was able to detect the technology being used and they were able to disable it.

        There are a couple of instances in the show where Q grants his abilities to other people and has his abilities taken away by the Q. in "True Q" He meets a young woman whose parents were Q that gave up their powers and chose to live on earth and her powers began to manifest. If the Qs powers are tied to some kind of technology then it was never detectable by any of the ships sensors.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Guinan also has some ability to sense Q as well, but I think that's because of El-Aurians ability to "feel" time and space or something.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The big bang did not happen IRL.
    Perpetual creation is a thing low IQ sciencebots cannot grasp.
    Q continuum is humanity in the future.
    This is why the Q's keep saving humanity because they are guiding themselves.
    This is obvious to anyone with above room temp IQ.
    OP is a homosexual for posting a EerieWeb thread on /x/.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So, what was that first Q episode about in this context?
      was this like, Q coming to terms with their past trauma (adolescence/ignorance) by "going back in time" to berate their teenage self for being a dipshit idiot? the whole thing is Q roasting humanity for being buttholes, and Picards task is to justify the continuation of the human race

      what's going on there? if I could go back in time to give my past self advice, I don't think I'd be such an butthole about it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      they way Q has always talked about themselves, Q seems to be more of a criteria than an actual species. Like someone who can beat Ocarina of Time in 6 minuets using hundreds of frame perfect inputs. That's Q.

      They save humanity because humans have the potential of Q criteria. Not because they are future humans.

  19. 1 month ago
    Tea

    Q is the idea of a god seporate from accountability. Old wisa and all powerful But no understanding of pain suffering or growing old handing out punishment and rewards without an understanding of experiencing the ability to be human. Q is child like Peter pan never growing into an adult a spoiled child.

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