What are the flaws in this moral system? >1. Do not do to others what you wouldnt let others do to you. >2.

What are the flaws in this moral system?
>1. Do not do to others what you wouldnt let others do to you
>2. Do not expect from others what you wouldnt do for others

Wanting to improve it, where are the flaws in this moral system?
Not looking for definite statements like murder is bad, worship god, etc etc.
I am looking to build a moral system that the majority of people can agree on
Added rules shouldn't be able to reasonably fall into pre existing rules

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be me
    >want kidnapped, wrapped in latex and hung from the ceiling until I starve to death
    >follow your moral system
    >start doing this to others
    Flaw found

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      99.9999% of people dont want that to happen to them, so per
      > the majority of people can agree on
      thats moot

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        One batshit crazy person ruins the belief. No mention of a majority in OP

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I am looking to build a moral system that the majority of people can agree on
          are you moronic?

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus said it clearly, the entire law sums up to love your neighbor as you love yourself. It's perfect, there's no room for improvement.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What are the flaws in this moral system?
    The flaws are that it is a moral system. It isn't. Or at least it wasn't meant to be. Something got lost in translation, either unconsciously, or consciously to use as a system of social control.

    We have free will. God doesn't intervene. So why suddenly one day do we get these rules? It doesn't add up. What would be more likely is that a wise chap went up a mountain for a pray, asking god, what's it all about. And god replies, well if you live a good life and turn your attention to me and remembering the things of the spirit, this is what your life will look like, because you won't want it to look any other way. You won't kill, you won't steal, and so on. Replace the word 'commandments' with 'commitments'. These are god's commitments to you. Live right and this is what you can expect.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wasnt referring to picrel

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're making assumptions that aren't true and resorting to a
      >it doesn't add up
      conclusion. It's not that it doesn't add up, it's that you aren't correct in your analysis.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      well according to RA, Moses was contacted by an entity claiming to be YHVH (but wasn't). this was only possible because Moses was in a negative state at the time. the 10 commandments were a negative entities spin on things.. however, as Moses was quite the positive being, the entity claiming to be YHVH could only create so much distortion.
      so you are correct in your observations

      as far as i recall, it was not too soon after this that the one originally known to us as YHVH left the earth, changed their name, never to return (in this timeline). something about meddling and trying to help humans not going as planned... and kind of creating more trouble lol

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Simple... Morality does not exist in Nature. Nature is the true god.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      some primates exhibit proto morality. Did god instill morality into them? And if so, why would he do that?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's a video of a blue whale that saved a woman ocean biologists life from an incoming shark.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Higher mammals are capable of empathy but morality doesn't apply.
        Dolphins have saved humans from drowing, but dolphins are also avid rapists. It means nothing really

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It clearly means something. Sure, they may not have the same capacity of understanding as we do and don't have common unspoken rules that we all know of things that should and shouldn't be done, but to say it means nothing is a bit of a stretch.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          And I'm curious how you think the whales action was empathy, when the lady had no idea that there was a shark nearby until much later?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't understand the question.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You said higher mammals are capable of empathy in response to a post that I made in regards to a whale sensing the human was in danger without the human herself aware of it, and the whale doing what it felt was necessary to make sure the lady didn't get torn to shreds. I don't understand how that's empathy.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It can infer that being attacked by a large predator is displeasurable.
            Perhaps it saw the woman as kin, like it would have a cub. Who knows what a whale thinks, if it even thinks. At least it feels something, causing it to react.
            Animals do things beneficial to their survival, in social animals that includes group survival. So that gesture at least elevated the woman to in-group status.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Basically what I'm trying to say is that reflects compassion more than empathy.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Depends on the scope of the question. I cited empathy because it is the cognitive faculty. Being able to assume the position of other beings, if only in a limited way.
            The resulting action can be characterized as compassionate, sure

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yea that's all I was asking basically, why you chose to see it as empathy. I get you now.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          ok and? so what if dolphins are avid rapists. You are working under the assumption your sense of morality is the one true one, which isnt true. If you believe in god, then you arent god and thus cannot 100% know his sense of morality. And if you dont believe in god, then you must accept objective morality can't exist.

  5. 2 months ago
    sage

    your picrel is terrible
    live your best values, don't worry too much about others, but if you hurt other people, which potentially includes subverting them with your nu religion and nu ideas, they will have to determine whether you are a threat to them. if you are, then there are consequences.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I am looking to build a moral system that the majority of people can agree on

    That's not how morals work

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      how do morals work then?

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is without flaw.
    This is the most concise and comprehensive set of rules that you could reasonably base an entire society around.
    Love God and love your neighbor: that is the law

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Amen. Great image.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pic rel is not the moral system I was talking about

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop following arbitrary saturnian materialistic laws and open your eyes. Look within you!

    http://gnosis.org/naghamm/gthlamb.html

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      as an atheist, jesus (assuming he was alive and the teachings people claim are from him actually came from him) is pretty rad

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    basing your morals on god is unjustifiable and makes no sense

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    bump

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