what actually happened in Roswell 1947

what occurred that day? I know the Roswell story is basically a mainstream UFO Story these days but the circumstances of the event were still weird,was it actually a Alien spacecraft of some sorts,a weather balloon which was the official statement made by the govt or something like a Soviet spy airplane which has also been suggested aswell,what do you think?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Irdk but if it was on serveral official news it could all have been just a psyop.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I agree

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it was a craft, it was taken down accidentally by our radar, and they found human body parts in the wreckage

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it was a craft
      yes (alien)
      >it was taken down accidentally by our radar
      yes / probably / maybe / it was indeed taken down
      >they found human body parts in the wreckage
      false, they found alien body parts in the wreckage

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, aliens came from the Trinity crash. Roswell was mutilated human pilots.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I forget the details but it was part of a study on radiation affects. It was mutilated kids that they found that had been irradiated or somesuch shit

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    NAZI craft. Occupants were surgically altered children with progeria taken from concentration camps.
    >Skorzeny’s PsyOps saucers contained children from concentration camps who were afflicted with Progeria and other syndromes and who, in addition to the deformities attendant to these diseases, were surgically altered to look like “aliens.” Crashing them in the territory of the United States served two purposes: 1) it would panic the top brass in America into institutionalizing the National Security State, which they did do by the end of 1947; 2) the crashed technology would be delivered right into the hands of Nazi German scientists that the CIA/GehlenOrg had pre-positioned in Operation Paperclip as the only men in this nascent National Security State capable of ostensibly “reverse-engineering” the technology that was putatively extraterrestrial but that their colleagues in Spain and Argentina were in fact continuing to develop. The right hand of the Fourth Reich was giving its left hand gifts, without the body of America ever realizing whose will was really controlling what its hands were doing.
    >In The Day After Roswell, Colonel Philip J. Corso, who was the head of the Foreign Technology Division of the Pentagon, responsible for reverse-engineering captured “foreign” tech, describes the wreckage recovered from the saucer crash at Roswell. People familiar with advanced German research and development in the mid-1940s, see in this description a synthesis of numerous cutting-edge Nazi technologies rather than anything necessarily “alien.”

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Corso describes Kevlar, Velcro, night vision, lasers, micro-perforated metal (so that you can blow through it and feel the air on your hand on the other side of it). All of these types of technologies were science-fictional in America and everywhere else in the world in the 1940s, but they were at the leading edge of German innovation in 1945. Night vision was being experimentally fielded by the German military by 1944. So was body armor made of Kevlar, as well as Velcro. These are not technologies that one would expect from an alien civilization thousands of years in advance of ours. They are technologies consistent with what was the state of the art in classified Nazi German military-industrial research. Poor Corso, impressed by the corpses of the deformed and surgically altered children on board the Roswell craft, was duped like so many others into thinking that it was “alien” technology he was farming out to Pentagon “reverse-engineering” projects that were run by Paperclip Nazis.
      >There are multiple layers to the cover story of Roswell. There is the weather balloon story, which is believed to be the first cover story, then the Project Mogul story, which replaced it after the end of the Cold War. But it is possible that the original alien crash story is also a cover story. Roswell Army Airbase was at that time the highest security facility in the entire United States, because it was the only place where nuclear weapons were stored. Why would military officers from this base announce that they had recovered remains of a presumably alien crashed flying saucer to begin with?!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The narrative that officials at the airbase did not yet have an official line from Washington and naively told the truth to the press, before covering it up within 24 hours with the weather balloon story, simply does not make sense. One possible explanation for this is that in 1947, only several years after the war’s end, it would have been devastating to admit to the American people—or even to their elected representatives in government—that some incredibly competent group of scientists and engineers had escaped the collapse of Nazi Germany and were operating from out of Spain, Argentina, and potentially Antarctica, with a capability of launching these advanced aircraft into the sovereign airspace of the United States—over the most sensitive military base in the country no less.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          this story is popping up more and more but it is being pushed through freemason channels such as Robert Sepehr and WhyFiles which makes me think it's just another cabal narrative.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        that's a nice story, do you have any proof the germans were developing this during the war?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bingo

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/lhr1B4Q.jpg

      They recovered more exotic craft before the roswell find; specifically for roswell though it was almost certainly Nazi craft employing Biefield-Brown effect (T.Townsend Brown staggered capacitance locomotion) with mutilated Japanese pilots sourced from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

      The craft resembled a kite or tent with "balsawood" looking indestructible metal i-beams. They assumed it was filled with an inert gas since the interior was open save for the wienerpit area which was very anthropomorphic, and the two apertures toward what they assumed was the rear of the craft. Supposedly it looks like a mantaray with a wienerpit in the middle when assembled. Testor's even made a model based upon the most credible witness accounts.

      >Lazar's supposed craft was different from these and was likely a donated lightship (Elizabeth Klarer / Jessie Roestenburg mexican hat-style craft, one of the smaller personal units)

      >Pasulka's crash site was either Rachel or Trinity... either were different kinds of craft from the Roswell craft. Im starting to think they were in a dogfight with each other and got third partied by US experimental high power radar. The "frogskin" is the underside of the craft.

      https://medcoeckapwstorprd01.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/pfw-images/borden/ethicsvol2/Ethics-ch-16.pdf

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >nazi, they barley where able to fly airplane to England, not even to usa.
      Then 2 years after a war made a craft that fly across the sea in to usa? Bullshit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >When American soldiers marched into the ruins of the Third Reich in 1945, they found that the Germans were, in some areas, a decade more advanced than the United States in technology. For example, we found transistors for computers being manufactured by Dehomag, the German subsidiary of IBM, which were orders of magnitude smaller than the ones that America was capable of constructing at the time. In aerospace technology, some of the German jet designs discovered in 1945 could not be successfully reverse-engineered by the United States until the 1970s. One example is the Nazi flying wing that became the B-2 Stealth Bomber. As we have seen, Kevlar, night vision, Velcro, all of these technologies that America was credited with inventing in the 1950s and 60s were actually retrieved from Nazi Germany in the 1940s.
        >The Foreign Technology Division at the Pentagon analyzed these developments and farmed their industrial reverse engineering out to various defense contractors. Those Americans who harvested this technology, and the minds that produced it, naively believed that they could control the Paperclip scientists and Gehlen Org intelligence assets. In fact, the Americans became tools for their agenda of using the United States to defeat their greater enemy, which was the Soviet Union, before turning around and waging a PsyOps war aimed at the controlled demolition of American society.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Evidence???
          You want to even claim Hitler lived in Argentina?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You want to even claim Hitler lived in Argentina
            He did there are even CIA and FBI documents that confirm it now. After the war, he was very sick so Bormann took over as Fuhrer. Look into the capital flight program. Operation Regentröpfchen (Raindrops) and Adlerflug (Eagle Flight). They had a massive contingency plan that included hundreds of dummy corporations and hidden gold which they planned to use to continue their secret research. Kammler disappeared after the war and he was in charge of all third reich secrets weapons projects. Argentinian intelligence confirmed Bormann was living there under the approval of Juan Peron. They worked on a high-energy fusion project down there (likely the bell) and then moved it elsewhere after international attention became too heavy.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Misinformation.
            >When those who played the strings of their puppet Hitler no longer had use for him, he was suddenly faced with the consequences of his actions and allowed others to kill him, acting as the dependent child he in fact was to the last.
            https://www.zetatalk.com/myths/m50.htm

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Whatever helps you sleep at night.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >nazi, they barley where able to fly airplane to England, not even to usa.
          Then 2 years after a war made a craft that fly across the sea in to usa? Bullshit.

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        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >if the americans kill us, steal our technology, and hire us for prostitutes then that means we win!
          holy fricking copium

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            the americans were the biggest nazis. wallstreet bankers and american industrialists are responsible for the rise of nazi germany and hitlers "economic miracle". these same people also financed the russian revolution and rise of communism. ask yourself why.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      total bullshit. really? they surgically altered children to fly their advanced craft? why the frick would they do that. this is easily dismissed with more than two seconds of critical thinking

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      is this the new CIA well poisoning psyop?
      This is the dumbest shit I've ever read, and I read stupid shit constantly, especially on /x/

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        why don't you read the book roswell and the reich by joseph farrell and get informed
        there is no other theory with more supporting evidence
        ETs are the disinfo

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        brother i know way more than probably any human at this point on the topic save for Jeremy Rhys and I thought the mutilated pilot theory was bunk. Then I started doing some research.

        >what in the hell does Carl Zeiss lenses have to do with the German bell?

        >What did Eisenhower and Patton do in the months after liberating the death camps? Why did they hold so many staff meetings? Why did it appear there was still fighting after Hitler was supposedly found dead? Did they make an unknown treaty?

        >Why did all the airship and submarine manufacturers at Friedrichshaffen leave most of their manufacturing equipment behind after fleeing? Why didn't paperclip find any of these industry heads after the war? Did they go to South America?

        Was Neu Schwabia just a research outpost? Or was it an enclave redoubt with production capabilities as the U-boat captains proudly stated?

        We have recovered ALIENcraft as well but Roswell was leftover Nazis.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          There qere much nore than roswell. Some say maybe 10 crashes in nevada/new mexici in 1940-1960.

          So what was aztec crash?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            so much disinfo around aztec it's hard to say. initial reports before the oppenheimer or whatever bullshit was added was:

            The supposed humanoid bodies were said to measure between 36 inches (91 cm) and 42 inches (110 cm) in height, and weigh around 40 pounds (18 kg). Ufologists claim that shortly after the craft was downed, the military cleared the area of evidence, including the bodies—subsequently taking it to Hangar 18 at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.

            >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec,_New_Mexico_crashed_saucer_hoax

            Notice the name change, that "crashed saucer hoax" bit is new. lmfao

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Check the archive.org link few posts up, its supposedly the real report by the gov...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >surgically altered children with progeria

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://smallpdf.com/file#s=1469fe8e-8e56-4afa-8cc9-f3b0e8a5ce8f

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Being born with progeria one thing, it's a gene mutation and you can't surgically inflict a kid with.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            they took kids who already looked aliens and then surgically modified them further

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Corso
      isn't Corso the name of the super villian in Neuromancer? the one who had his brain rewritten by an AI?

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They recovered more exotic craft before the roswell find; specifically for roswell though it was almost certainly Nazi craft employing Biefield-Brown effect (T.Townsend Brown staggered capacitance locomotion) with mutilated Japanese pilots sourced from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

    The craft resembled a kite or tent with "balsawood" looking indestructible metal i-beams. They assumed it was filled with an inert gas since the interior was open save for the wienerpit area which was very anthropomorphic, and the two apertures toward what they assumed was the rear of the craft. Supposedly it looks like a mantaray with a wienerpit in the middle when assembled. Testor's even made a model based upon the most credible witness accounts.

    >Lazar's supposed craft was different from these and was likely a donated lightship (Elizabeth Klarer / Jessie Roestenburg mexican hat-style craft, one of the smaller personal units)

    >Pasulka's crash site was either Rachel or Trinity... either were different kinds of craft from the Roswell craft. Im starting to think they were in a dogfight with each other and got third partied by US experimental high power radar. The "frogskin" is the underside of the craft.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >unit 731
      What the actual frick.
      This shit isn't covered up, even seems publicly acknowledged by the associated governments and is in the top 10 most fricked things I've ever seen and yet I've never heard of it before.
      Seriously holy shit. If this is the kind of shit they admit happened during WW2 then what the frick did the US do that we're not admitting?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Its common knowledge dude. I read aboit it in the 90s. Now there are all kinds of yt vids

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ?si=vdqYyHVkymMU_Sjl&t=1417

    its all reeeeeeeal

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You now face a new world -- a world of change. The thrust into outer space of the satellite, spheres, and missiles mark the beginning of another epoch in the long story of mankind. In the five or more billions of years the scientists tell us it has taken to form the earth, in the three or more billion years of development of the human race, there has never been a more abrupt or staggering evolution. We deal now not with things of this world alone, but with the illimitable distances and as yet unfathomed mysteries of the universe. We are reaching out for a new and boundless frontier.
      >We speak in strange terms: of harnessing the cosmic energy; of making winds and tides work for us; of creating unheard synthetic materials to supplement or even replace our old standard basics; to purify sea water for our drink; of mining ocean floors for new fields of wealth and food; of disease preventatives to expand life into the hundreds of years; of controlling the weather for a more equitable distribution of heat and cold, of rain and shine; of space ships to the moon; of the primary target in war, no longer limited to the armed forces of an enemy, but instead to include his civil populations; of ultimate conflict between a united human race and the sinister forces of some other planetary galaxy; of such dreams and fantasies as to make life the most exciting of all time.
      >And through all this welter of change and development, your mission remains fixed, determined, inviolable: it is to win our wars.

      Huh. that certainly is suspicious.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Non-human intelligence, most likely. People denying their existence/presence are just scared senseless of the possibility we may not be alone, and especially, that we are not the top of the food chain but just mid tier.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What was the RAAF doing in New Mexico

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the RAAF in this situation doesn't stand for Royal Australian Air force which might be what you thought it was..it stands for "Roswell Army Air field" it's a military Airforce Base in Roswell

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thank you

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I banged your Mom so hard and she made so much noise that she had to make up a story about an alien flying saucer crash to explain it to your father. Then the government got involved after their balloon-based nuke detectors picked up the biggest bang since Nagasaki.

    The lie got a bit out of hand after that and took on a life of its own.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      damn...I have one question though,was this before or after I left all your female relatives pregnant?

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Literally if you want to pay /x/ so to speak release all aliens stuff. Could be relevant but If Elon didn’t meet then idk

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    psyop.
    but not what you think.
    the gov wants the normies to believe in the aliens.
    why?
    project bluebeam.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >why?
      to cover up the breakaway germans
      nazis are the only one off-limits in this topic even though there is the most evidence for nazi ufos

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >nazis are the only one off-limits in this topic even though there is the most evidence for nazi ufos
        it's not off-limits, its pants on head moronic, just like bluebeam and flat earth demons.
        if nazi's were 3000 years ahead of every other nation on earth then they would have jsut won the war.

        you're just a supremacist knee deep in cope that his side lost the war, so you're imagining some fancy alternate timeline where actually they were as super cool and awesome aryans as they said they were.

        >hurrdurr you lose because you called me racist
        I'll call a spade a spade. Your blatant racism isn't my problem with the theory, but it is a pretty obvious cause for your belief.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not him and not pro-nazi but operation paperclip is real as shit, the USA admits that they took in a frick ton of nazi scientists. The idea that they had developed but not implemented tech 'years ahead'(stupid term based solely on the fact that we didn't release it for years, rather than how significant of an advancement it is) of us isn't some completely moronic idea that's irreconcilable with them losing the war. They could've developed theory or maybe a couple of prototypes for tons of this shit but not had the time, resources or logistical bandwidth to implement it in time for it to turn the war.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you're just a supremacist knee deep in cope that his side lost the war
          I don't care at all but I do find this reaction strange. This was a giant part of history and showing interest in this part of history does not make me "a supremacist". I have no racial allegiance as I do not belong to any race. Besides, do people who read about Genghis Khan secretly want to go around raping and pillaging? Are you beginning to see how moronic your logic is?
          If you want my honest take, I actually find all this highly disturbing because I just find more and more supporting evidence the more I dig.
          If you think I am a Nazi because I find interest in researching field propulsion and speculative theories about breakaway civilizations then that is some weird complex you have going on. This is the most important subject anyone could be researching because of the implications but morons will call you racist because you are interested in learning more about a group that secretly made one of the most paradigm shattering breakthroughs in history.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >breakaway germans
        owning the entire planet is so much more empowering than hiding in a cave.

        there're no breakaway Germans, unless you count the blondes living in Argentina.

        The world govts want a One World Govt,
        and for that they need normies under their full control,
        and ignorant, misinformed, gullible fricks are the easiest to control.
        cue the alien-ufo dis-sinfo campaign running for almost 100 years now. Project Bluebeam will be the climax.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Better question is what was the Royal Australian Air Force doing in New Mexico?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      read the comments

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if the R that has imprinted on my arm has to do with this..?

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Roswell crash was one of many alien space ships operated by the mid-height greys who look partially human that crashed. They can speak english. They (and other aliens) use the mini-greys as drones. Mini greys are a species taken from some planet long ago and they are used by the host and they are like slaves and they cant reproduce anymore. They consume sugars and have bio-technology in them like a tazer in finger and ofcourse the enhanced IR vision capability (black film over eyes), 4 fingers with suction cups and four part brain and a telepathic brain interface there.

    The mid height greys have used this part of space for thousands of years and sometimes theyve landed on earth, they have even dropped genetically engineered children throughout the years.
    These aliens live in space in huge space ships and can live atleast a thousand years, the ships somehow lock from star to star when they travel. When approaching planets the mother ships stay far away and the saucers are used.

    They are often in hibernation the long trips but the aliens are still mentally awake and this is where the grey drones come to play. The drones are used telepathically from the hibernation tubes by the mid-height greys. The mid-height greys age slowly and are sleeping, consciously, and fly the ship with the help of the greys who wear telepathic helmets.

    Atleast one ufo that fell in new mexico was likely hit by some exotic radar beam and it made the ship fly erratically to a small mountain top that teared open the ufos hull, the pressure change killed all the mini greys and it fell down. This was possibly the so called Aztec crash where one alien likely survived who later left earth.

    Aztec ufo according to reports made by eyewitnesses had in the bottom part of the ufo, medical devices and human body parts

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Continued
      Surviving alien spoke english and had mentioned that Nicola Teslas tests had sent signals all the way to their home planet even if though they mostly live in space and not their home planet

      They have large mother ships parked in space, they visit this part of space often and have for thousands of years. Humanity and earth is like a nature reserve park where bears stayed in the forest for thousands of years but now suddenly bears are leaving forests so the aliens are intersted what we are doing.

      Aliens supposedly have no political systems or leaders telling what to do or even religions and people are somehow raised up collectively in addition to biological parents.

      Theres also other aliens. Likely with 99.999% confirmation the big forehead blonde no fingernail blonde nordic "beautiful looking" ones.

      In addition to this theres possibly a human looking species, highly telepathical that lives in bottom of oceans and have for thousands of years (mentioned in Morris K Jessup _annotated_ version, written possibly by one of them. They are somekinda remnants of the high-culture era tens of thousands of years ago. Some humans had space ships, they could phase shift in the ships snd become invisible (foo fighters were likely these).

      They moved under oceans thousands of years ago after they had done war against eachother for too long and keeping cities on surface was too dangerous, Carolina Bays were possibly a city bombed to oblivion from space (Jessup book says it was "Mu").

      Us military people who saw supposedly Roswell ufo were: Philip J Corso, Clifford Stone, Jesse Marcell.

      Ufos are secret because 90% of people on the planet are too stupid and dont even know which planet this is from the sun.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Continued:
        So either thousands of people are in a conspiracy where they claim they saw ufos/were abductees and nothing ever visited earth ever, or theres shit flying around in space and we are like new young babies spon joining the space people (if we can handle it).

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Continued
      Surviving alien spoke english and had mentioned that Nicola Teslas tests had sent signals all the way to their home planet even if though they mostly live in space and not their home planet

      They have large mother ships parked in space, they visit this part of space often and have for thousands of years. Humanity and earth is like a nature reserve park where bears stayed in the forest for thousands of years but now suddenly bears are leaving forests so the aliens are intersted what we are doing.

      Aliens supposedly have no political systems or leaders telling what to do or even religions and people are somehow raised up collectively in addition to biological parents.

      Theres also other aliens. Likely with 99.999% confirmation the big forehead blonde no fingernail blonde nordic "beautiful looking" ones.

      In addition to this theres possibly a human looking species, highly telepathical that lives in bottom of oceans and have for thousands of years (mentioned in Morris K Jessup _annotated_ version, written possibly by one of them. They are somekinda remnants of the high-culture era tens of thousands of years ago. Some humans had space ships, they could phase shift in the ships snd become invisible (foo fighters were likely these).

      They moved under oceans thousands of years ago after they had done war against eachother for too long and keeping cities on surface was too dangerous, Carolina Bays were possibly a city bombed to oblivion from space (Jessup book says it was "Mu").

      Us military people who saw supposedly Roswell ufo were: Philip J Corso, Clifford Stone, Jesse Marcell.

      Ufos are secret because 90% of people on the planet are too stupid and dont even know which planet this is from the sun.

      trust me bro

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ofcourse this could be fake. Or...real.

        https://archive.org/details/ultra-top-secret-mitd-rotate-large/page/14/mode/1up?view=theater

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Roswell crash
      exotic flying tech used to traffic children for elite sex parties crashes.

      done.
      next conspiracy, please

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I used to live in clovis, frequently in roswell. I'm telling you right now, absolutely nothing happened. There are a lot of air force bases all around that area of new mexico. They test the craziest looking shit you can imagine that you can't even wrap your head around, and especially back in 1947 things looked even more suspicious. The problem with roswell is all the fricking tweakers and cow-manuer-dead-brain locals, all RAN with this narrative. Everything else thats came out is nothing but story telling

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I also want to say I lived on one of the air force bases in clovis. Surrounded by the jumpsuit boys all of the time, on the tracks, idk if any of you have lived on a military base before. You sit outside especially at night, theres no light pollution, you can see everything. I've seen countless abnormally flown aircraft, i've seen what i can only describe as their attempt at invisibility steel/epoxy or something like that would reflect light and in the desert, made it look like a mirage almost but you could still see it. I never saw it used on an aircraft. And thats only the one I lived on, there are multiple multiple air force bases specifically, in that area of new mexico.

      My point is, I wouldn't put it past some higher level aircraft testing that was unbeknownst to some rookie who ended up reporting it as a foreign aircraft that resulted in a frenzy and the confusion unraveling, resulting in the crash and the bodies found were their own men. They could never admit this because it would require too much ass covering. The public ran with the alien narrative and they let them.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        People saw things flying 20000mph in 1960s.

        Your explanation, does not hold

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Roswell crash was 1947, also i don’t know where you’re getting that incredibly inflated mph number

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Come out from the stone age. Many eyewitnesses have made mamy interviews of ufos theyve seen and then also seen on radar flying at huge speeds so they calculate the speeds. Milton Torres air force pilot saw one the size of an aircraft carrier flying on radar, was given order to shoot and then suddenly the ufo went accelerating to huge speeds and disappeared. Nsa went to him and said shut up or you die.

            40 or was it 50 years later when all Nda's went old he told what had happened. Happened in 1957

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Great book, def worth reading.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They were testing a captured Nazi experimental aircraft and it went down. By mixing certain precious metals together in the correct ratios you get a crystalline metal that when exposed to electricity creates an anti-gravity like effect. This was discovered by the nazis some time in the 1930s when a bell maker was commissioner by the nazi party to make a commemorative bell. Following with the folk tradition of the time the bell maker added several silver or gold coins to the metal mixture to improve the resonance of the bell. The exact composition of the metals used for the bell are unknown as it was covered up by the party. When the bell maker went to electroplate the bell with gold the effect was discovered and the party was contacted and the bell was taken for research. This is the origins of the nazi bell and the research on the bell created the flying saucers we know of today.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ummm
      this is new to me
      i have never heard this story related to the bell
      do you know the source
      earliest evidence I can find for technology similar to what is described in die-glocke are 1850s Dellschau drawings for the Sonora Aero Club and accompanying notes describing an electro-magnetic technology involving a chemical serum poured into a bell-shaped device containing rotating drums. according to Dellschau an alchemist by the name of Peter Mennis held the secret to the fuel. this enabled anti-gravity propulsion that interacted with telluric current lines in the earth which propelled a number of different types of sleek airship designs that look like something out of Jules Vern. these craft were probably responsible for 1890s airship sightings. well there were a bunch of people in that era experimenting with antigrav. john keely, solomon andrews, etc. but the sonora aero club was funded by prussian corporate colonialists which is where the connection to the nazi bell comes in. it seems likely to me the fuel created by Peter Mennis is the same mysterious xerum-525 described in Die-Glocke lore. also the way the device operated fits description of Dellschau airships. die-glocke device was about nine to twelve feet tall and had two counter-rotating drums inside of it filled with a Mercury-Thorium isotope and other unknown material (xerum-525) with a constant power supply of AC and intermittent shocks of DC electricity.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You went too far down the rabbit hole on this one. The discovery was purely accidental. The effect also isn't true anti-gravity. It is in the end a gravity generator. The crystal structure allows you to make very stable electromagnetic fields. by overlaying enough of these fields you can create tiny singularities. This effect would have gone undiscovered had it not been made into a bell shape where the fields were naturally pointed towards each other and had an electric current not been passed through the bell. It is a device that allows you to move literal space. This is all explainable in mainline physics. No need for magical elements or chemicals. If you can get pure enough metals, you could make such a device in your garage. Modern spacial manipulation devices are completely spherical and build in the perfect diameter to minimize the amount of energy needed to make the singularity. This is still being kept quite hush hush in government as a reliable energy source has not been found. They can only keep the thing running for 2-3 hours with modern batteries.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Can you use crystals for telepathy.

          Like a mile high crystal tower.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe? Human brain waves have been shown to interact with stuff outside of someone's head. If you had a crystal that resonated at the same frequencies as someones brain waves you could both receive and transmit those brain waves. Transmitting would be pretty impossible though without something to actually aim and accurately target the correct spots on a persons brain. Otherwise you would be bombarding a person entire brain possibly interrupting vital brain functions. Seems like a bad idea. As a receiver though it would work great.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Just wondering because, you gave a highly scientific answer to uap propulsion (atleast when on a planets gravity, in zero gravity theres likely other propulsion methods that are very fast (but secret). If there really is "ether" you can "attatch" to (oe some mumbo jumbo like this).

            But the crystal. I had imagination friend when i was maybe 9-14. I would sit in darkness and concentrate with my head, dark tunnel opens and i fly in and then float to this tower thing. It was like blue crystal thing.

            There was like this being. Seemed humanoid but wide. Like a friendly uncle or a shrink/professor.
            I would enter the room, it was oval. Big table and chairs, but they were partially carved in the room.
            It would stare me and i it. There was no talk. I would ask, like what is this. It wouldnt answer, but was sympathetic.
            It was there often when I went.
            Once when I went and i hadnt been in few years it wasnt there (I was maybe 18-20) . I started to scream come here and it came like from a door.
            I could sense he/it talked to others too.
            Maybe few years after this i went again, there was like a box and a message, he wasnt there but the message was he/it hasnt forgotten me. Like a comforting thing.

            Also, if i did the concentration in front of a mirror, my pupils would enlargen (still do (without connection to anywhere though) but i havent tried to "visit" the "alien buddy" in long time).

            So was it all just imagination or did I possibly hook up, to a intergalactic space "thought-internet" and someone somewhere who was also scanning, found me? I think he was a "space telepath" and this was the meeting room.

            Once i remember there being many other beings with addition to him, but they seemed still.

            So was i born crazy or was there something?

            If i remember correctly, this started when I went to imagination land when i was maybe 8, i could see a small black tunnel open in darkness, but i would boost it more open with the concentration thing.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            So well you bring up some interesting stuff and fundamentally we are going to be getting into metaphysics and philosophy here. If you really want to get some idea about that sort of stuff I am not well suited to explain it so I will defer to some written text that gives a good and thorough explanation of the metaphysical nature of the mind and the universe. The Kybalion by the Three Initiates. Here is an audiobook version that hasn't been adulterated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nKg3Fyk0Xo&t=1725s.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            So well you bring up some interesting stuff and fundamentally we are going to be getting into metaphysics and philosophy here. If you really want to get some idea about that sort of stuff I am not well suited to explain it so I will defer to some written text that gives a good and thorough explanation of the metaphysical nature of the mind and the universe. The Kybalion by the Three Initiates. Here is an audiobook version that hasn't been adulterated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nKg3Fyk0Xo&t=1725s.

            I will add that perhaps there are mental frequencies that are being projected towards you that are not the same as normal brain waves that you can mentally tune into to receive the transmission. Personally I have never experienced something quite like that, but I have had moments where it seemed as though knowledge had been directly handed to me. A divine revelation of sorts.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Good points thanks

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            i have seen these crystal cities in my dreams
            they are real

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i believe you but can you give me a source
          i want to research this myself

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I can't give you a source. This is my original theorem based on a wide array of research I have done. I had a sort of divine revelation one day and the pieces just fit. There are real designs of electromagnetic singularity engines that are theoretically possible that were designed by NASA engineers when NASA was at its height. A crystalline metal alloy with high conductivity and heat resistance would be able to produce extremely stable electric fields. To top it off is actual first hand accounts of a bell maker in Germany who was commissioned to make a bell for the party and had the bell confiscated by the military before it was done. I literally dug for hours through newspaper clippings during the the time when I was researching the bell when I first heard about it to find that story so I don't have a source for that one unfortunately. I also researched bell making around that time and learned about people adding gold and silver coins to bells to cause them to have better resonance. Years before I had ever researched the bell I was also into metallurgy. Cannons were often made from the same materials as bells and even some cannons were made from melted down bells. Some of these cannons made from bells were useless as they would always crack and explode. This is because of the added gold and silver. The canons would be partially crystallized metal and would be very vulnerable to shock. I have personally seen levitating air craft near a US Air force base. That is what spurred my interest into these types of things and that inevitably led to the Nazi bell. I know the US had them and they are possible. I know there are stories of the Nazis having similar craft. Many Nazis worked for the US after the wars. It is in my mind no stretch of the imagination that they got the tech I have witnessed from the Nazis. Sorry if my thoughts here are a bit jumbled.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            My theory is only connecting events as logically as I can. Bell gets confiscated by nazis. US captures Nazi documents describing strange anti-gravity propulsion bell. NASA engineer who worked closely with Nazi engineers designs a singularity engine. Bob Lazar describes working with anti-gravity sphere. I personally see a levitating aircraft. The bell made by accident really could produce perfectly aligned electromagnetic fields if it was a conductive crystalized metal. The bell was being made for the nazis in the first place so there was no reason for it to be confiscated and disappear.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >batteries
          You mean diesel power-packs and jetfuel turbines produced by General Electric at the Westinghouse plant where they made the A-3 testbeds into Temple Torpedos.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            can you elaborate on this

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            project blue book case 10270

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_A-3_Skywarrior#cite_ref-bomber_129_5-6

            >Funny how the book that cites this information about the Skywarrior testbeds being produced at Westinghouse isnt available online and is hundreds of dollars. 🙂

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    thoughts on this? ignore danny
    https://youtu be/a1kespVSrfY?si=o3vR-md7a9r7U4aL&t=10242

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        "Next New Find" is what got me on the trail of the contractors behind blue book case 10270 and the cash-landrum incident

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g03.htm
    >The plan was to allow ships to crash, ostensibly at the hands of humans. This maximized the feeling of control the humans would experience, particularly as the front end of any contact was, unfortunately, through the military. Once they felt they could harm us, they were willing to parley.
    >For instance, one is led to believe that all the aliens died, yet EBE lived for a time.
    There is even claim they have spoken to this alien, one child was able to communicate with it. They where scared of Alien, so they didn't help to make it live longer. Aliens where not adjusted to earth magnetic frequency's, this is why they travel in space ships.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Parsons and crowley fapped in the desert and forgot to close a portal or something

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Space Colony ARK shot the moon dude

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The alien shit it was a cover up they created.
    The reality is completely different, it has to do with something linked to Hollywood.
    I'm not going to tell you what it was, but you can join the dots easily

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      see

      >Roswell crash
      exotic flying tech used to traffic children for elite sex parties crashes.

      done.
      next conspiracy, please

      and of course, they use Hollywood to brainwash kids into becoming hypersexual because fricking a crying child is not as enjoyable as a child already willing to "serve" you.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They said it was a classified balloon that crashed but the alleged balloon never actually flew so NOBODY ACTUALLY KNOWS because it's still fricking classified.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing happened in Roswell, whatever occurred was in outside of Corona about 70 miles north

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the news lies!
    >news is fake!
    >all journalists are scum!
    Hey everybody, this news article proves a UFO landed!

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