Was Joseph Smith a Wizard?

From the book
>Early Mormonism and the Magic World View" by D. Michael Quinn
http://www.jvalentiner.com/2019/10/jer-reads-early-mormonism-and-magic.html
Was Joseph Smith a Wizard?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He seemed to see himself or at least sell himself as one at first.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mormons practice(d) magick.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why didn’t he free himself from custody before the mob got him than?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The technical term at the time for his magic was cunning folk traditions. Most of his claimed magic was the ability to see hidden things in a spirit world Things like his seer stone are examples. He had different ones to find different things such as water, treasure, spirits etc. Pic is one of the seer stones. He also used talismans that supposedly protected him, allowed him to control others and make luck so he could have wealth.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        so what's the rock for? what do you do with it?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Usually, you looked into the stone after saying magical incantations to see things when you look into them. Such as locations for treasure or water. For example, Urim and Thummim, were seer stones that were looked into according to Joseph Smith, to translate things like the Book of Abraham.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds like dogshit to me. I can stare at a rock and make shit it up too.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He was into occult literature, all his methods are common in works of that time period, specially the talismanic magic and the "dowsing spells". As for the stone, that's just a scrying medium.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He was really just selling his services to others to earn money. It was really just a scam though. Pic is of his Jupiter Tailsman.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, he was a con man as it's been demonstrated several times already with his fake ass translations.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not that the devil wouldn’t use con men in order to lead people away from the path with signs and wonders (e.g. Simon Magus).

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There was a lot of folk magic going on in the early Americas, including among so-called puritans. Smith's father used spells to find buried treasure and he taught these arts to his son.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    watch this video by Dan Vogel:

    He did massive research on Mormonism and wrote the best book about Smith

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      thanks anon

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No problem. His book is amazing. It's long as frick but the amount of detail is impressive.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >joseph smith with a bag of rocks and crystals
      so joseph smith is like chris-chan but in a way more sectarian successful?
      >also
      sounds like hubbard scientology with crowley kek

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He was killed via tar and feathers because of his actions and people were starting to catch on that he was pretending to tell people secret knowledge and trying to get people to give him women. Really, the religion took off sorta like a drug cartel after him, basically extorting and raiding people. Something, he himself alluded to want to do. Think of things like the Mountain Meadows massacre and the events that lead to the 1838 Mormon War. Pic is of a book more centered on the process of creating the Book of Mormons such as sources and texts taken.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >like chris-chan but in a way more sectarian successful?
        Most importantly, he was charismatic, which allowed him to literally make shit up on the spot without being outed. He was a very creative young man who knew the Bible and used conflicts between denominations present in America to shape his religion. When attacked by non-Mormons, he would create the narrative that Mormons, as the only right religion in America, were persecuted just like the first Christians, which also boosted the trust of his followers in him. For me, he's the most important American figure of that era.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I should point out that he was jail when he was killed by being shot but there was evidence people were aware and violence had happened before. Sidney Rigdon, Brigham Young, and James Strang, were the people who basically began organizing their own religious movements after his death and functioned more like drug cartels.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >organizing their own religious movements after his death and functioned more like drug cartels.
          sound like a hippie lsd cult...
          uhhhmmm....

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    North america was an ancient homeland of the Biblical giants. Although its endlessly covered up to sell all the psyops this clown has to offer the cattle, it is something that folks shouldn’t forget about as the world comes undone.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No he was a prophet of God.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He couldnt even water douse

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