Was he involved in the occult? Is there more to the LDS Church than they let on?

Was he involved in the occult? Is there more to the LDS Church than they let on?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is there more to the LDS Church than they let on?
    Its not really a secret that they utilize masonic rituals and worship other gods

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >other gods
      like what

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mormons believe god (lower case g) is the same race as humans. They even have some semi-canonical sci-fi about his past life as a space wagecuck on a planet called 'Kolob'.

        In truth, they are atheists, but its technically polytheism in the same way as neo-pagan larpers.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          kino

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

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          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It might be if they owned it - but they dont and publicly refer to themselves as christians

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Smith was a mason. He strikes me more like a con artist than anything else. I had these golden tablets... but I wasn't allowed to show them to anybody... trust me they existed... I tell you what they said... I'd like to show them to you but they vanished into thin air... Bullshit artist of the cheapest sort. Yet here we are 150 years later, and there are still idiots falling for that.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, he was a Mason who started a cult to rip off the moronic a naïve. Today its just the stupid who double down on it after quietly realizing they made a mistake but lost everything to it

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mormonism=Freemasonry=Jews

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1999, 2001, 2021.
    Why not ask about some of the archeological finds that don’t fit in the region. Real history is dangerous especially the growing! amount that doesn’t cause some would like their origins of wealth a mystery it would seem.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes he dabbled in the occult. Before he founded Mormonism, he (unsuccessfully) hired himself out a diviner for buried treasure and also carried a Jovian talisman on his person.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this may be unrelated but my Mormon mom and ex Mormon dad keep telling me this story, my dad (who is atheist now, ever since the divorce) still says it happened.

    >parents go to Mormon temple
    >mom is pregnant with my younger brother
    >they visit some rooms which are only allowed to certain people (married couples I think?)
    >rooms in temple have sky paintings and other shit (I forget details)
    >ffw some months later
    >brother is born
    >ffw 2-5 years later
    >brother randomly drops a bomb of a story
    >"I was flying around over you [mom and dad] inside this white room with sky paintings, a room with a table at the center and a crystal ceiling lamp (and other details I forget)"
    >ffw some years later and my brother forgets that ever happened
    >recently asked mom about it
    >she insists it happened
    >talk with Dad about it
    >he still tells me it's a true story (he's against the LDS church, which makes it weird that he's not skeptical)

    it used to freak me out but it just seems harmless and feels like a fake story.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Mormon Church is another Illuminati front (infiltrated at the top) and directly involved with ritual abuse and MONARCH programming/trauma-based mind control. Heavily CIA-linked. Some relevant information:

    https://mormonmonarch.com/who-am-i/

    https://www.scribd.com/document/105967728/Memo-Bishop-Glenn-L-Pace-to-LDS-Church-Members-Committee-Ritualistic-Child-Abuse-7-19-90

    https://cathyfox.wordpress.com/2022/06/28/ut5-kristy-allen-mormon-ritual-abuse-and-mkultra/

    http://whale.to/b/sp/springmeier.html

    There is a large underground programming facility underneath the Portland Mormon temple.

    https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37909533/

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes, learn from the FLDS

    https://rumble.com/c/FLDS

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://rumble.com/v216hb8-flds-beliefs-of-pre-existence-creation-and-the-war-in-heaven.html

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Was he involved in the occult?
    Yes, look up the Jupiter talisman, the "Holiness to the Lord" parchment, his treasure digging escapades, and his involvement in Freemasonry.
    >Is there more to the LDS Church than they let on?
    Kind of, but instead of being interesting and cool it's some wacky ceremonies cribbed from Masons (the temple endowment) and once you get really up the chain it's another wacky ceremony that guarantees senior Mormons a ticket to Mormon Heaven regardless of sins committed short of murder (second anointing/calling and election made sure).
    There's wacky theological shit too but everyone in Mormonism is trying to bury it out of embarrassment.
    All the other "hidden" shit is either ridiculous nonsense from earlier periods in Mormonism which didn't get buried or un-canon'd somewhere along the way (Heavenly Mother, Kolob, garments, the 3 Nephites, most temple ceremonies, etc) or mundane but shitty stuff that doesn't get attention because it's boring (SEC release 96951 is the main source document for this, the tl;dr is that the mainline LDS church has like $140 billion in assets and knowingly like $40 billion from the government for decades and it all gets used on shopping malls and investment properties and shit even though tithepayers are led to believe most of it goes to charity and building temples). It's also highly likely that the "royal" families of Mormonism and the businesses they are involved with are all engaging in incestuous financial fraud, kickbacks, real estate fraud, and that kind of shit, especially in the Utah/Idaho/Wyoming and Gilbert, AZ areas, but there's no "smoking gun" document proving that as of now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and knowingly like $40 billion
      **and knowingly hid like $40 billion

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and knowingly like $40 billion
      **and knowingly hid like $40 billion

      im supposed to be mad at tax fraud
      sounds based to me

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon they're not using it to build white people-only compounds in Utah in preparation for the second war of Deseret or whatever, they're just accumulating cash and assets for the sake of accumulating while optimizing for ways to extract more from their believer base. It's really a lot more boring and amoral than it sounds. The people at the top take great pains to act like they truly are prophets and apostles and shit in public but their bottom line is the LDS church's bank account.
        There's a couple historical factors that led to this situation but they're honestly pretty boring if you didn't grow up Mormon and won't make much sense. At the end of the day, the LDS leadership has become overly cautious about its assets while at the same time becoming desperate to reverse an ongoing decline in young membership rates. Eventually, the situation will hit a point where some infighting over the control of all of the assets will occur, as an insular core of "royal family" types with access to all that shit will be the last group strongly anchored to Mormonism.
        Though who knows, there's a lot of people thirsty for something more spiritually fulfilling in the LDS faith, and combined with the fact that Mormonism makes people philosophically braindead, this has created a fertile ground for all kinds of wacky conspiracy shit to take root - Q shit was super popular among right wing Mormons and there are small not-quite-splinter sects popping up every year. Right now the most prominent movement centers around Visions of Glory, an NDE account written by some Mormon dude a couple years ago who predicted typical end-of-days shit but with the added fever pitch of individual revelation, a commonly accepted cultural phenomenon in Mormonism, which has led tons to batshit types to take the word as gospel - supposedly including Chad and Lori Daybell of recent legal fame for the murders of their children and Chad's ex-wife.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          just sounds like a shizo cult the creates more schizo trying to make their own cult

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they take families (ie, offspring) as the salient value of the religion as you "get to keep them forever". i asked what if you don't like them or what if you were raped they said nothing. every mormon church i go to has family members groping and feeling each other, too

    its funny because when i was little i would tell tales about super hell for some reason (was catholic raised). but the mormons believe in super heaven lol. sounds like the same place to me

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Absolutely, this is a must read on the subject
    https://annas-archive.org/md5/17446d25ae618ebe4d634b0f87b79527

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    See this thread in archive. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37879309/#q37879309

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