Voodoo and Native american rituals and knowledge

Im curious if anyone on /x/ has any knowledge on the rituals and lore of both the native American religions and groups or that of the Haitian religions and groups. Both seem to be pretty tight knit and I want to know if anyone here could help me.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ancient wisdom: mouthwash is a good substitute for alcohol. It will help you communicate with spirits

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would you want that, look at how Haiti is or any big Vodoo/satneria country, its a variable than lets to self destruction and bad energies all over. First the majority of them work in necromancy, to get a death to influences stuff. I can't say how wrong that it. They are literally fricking themselves over for peanuts in this world. I learned as much as you can of stuff like Palo Monte and got short at being "rayado".

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >get death to influences stuff
      >le bad
      Oh buddy, do I have news for you. It isn't just the Haitians.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I know, anyone than dwells heavily in those energies gets wrecked sooner than later, either bad health, luck etc
        I'm sure lots of euro / Usa leaders are into that because they are doing all kind of senseless shit and it will end bad.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >anyone than dwells heavily in those energies gets wrecked sooner than later
          This does not seem to be true.
          >euro / Usa leaders are into that
          This would contradict your previous statement

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It doesn't, the worse is coming in a few years. IT already shows the signals all over if you know what to look at.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    High level: Pillage, rape, killing, sacrificial killing, cannibalism. Nothing is really taboo. Use your imagination from there.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is it exactly that you want to know about Native Spiritualism?

    t. sioux who’s been practicing this shit my entire life

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Navajogay reporting in.

      The really interesting stuff I found to be the black magic, although the prices to be paid are far beyond anything I would be willing to pay.
      The goal is absolute debasement/defilement of everything good, moral and holy.
      This is achieved through singing holy ceremonial songs backwards/in reverse, eating shit (this is the tame way in most Indians go for), necrophilia, homicide of a loved one + cannibalism for abilities like Shapeshifting.
      I met a guy who was able to "read" my life experiences just by looking at me. It was dark spooky shit boys

      hey guys im hoping to connect can i have discord

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"I cAn hAz DiScOrD?"

        Keep bothering with this kind of shit and you'll have more discord than you will know what to do with.
        Only very rarely does a man find himself in possession of the right ingredients to not totally mentally/emotionally/spiritually implode once the mysteries begin to reveal themselves.
        I do not mean to suggest that I am an exception; I am, most categorically, not immune.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Navajogay reporting in.

      The really interesting stuff I found to be the black magic, although the prices to be paid are far beyond anything I would be willing to pay.
      The goal is absolute debasement/defilement of everything good, moral and holy.
      This is achieved through singing holy ceremonial songs backwards/in reverse, eating shit (this is the tame way in most Indians go for), necrophilia, homicide of a loved one + cannibalism for abilities like Shapeshifting.
      I met a guy who was able to "read" my life experiences just by looking at me. It was dark spooky shit boys

      What is Sasquatch?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Navajogay reporting in.

      The really interesting stuff I found to be the black magic, although the prices to be paid are far beyond anything I would be willing to pay.
      The goal is absolute debasement/defilement of everything good, moral and holy.
      This is achieved through singing holy ceremonial songs backwards/in reverse, eating shit (this is the tame way in most Indians go for), necrophilia, homicide of a loved one + cannibalism for abilities like Shapeshifting.
      I met a guy who was able to "read" my life experiences just by looking at me. It was dark spooky shit boys

      I really like nature and I care a lot for learning about our history with the Native Americans on the east coast. Should I be aware of anything when I am out and about hiking or traveling? I know that sounds vague. I just find a lot of artifacts and I want to keep finding them and I want to keep learning about the land we live on and keep integrating with it rather than moving away from it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hear many spirits from many tribes that lived around here through the years. I would very much like to learn more about how the basis of the belief system is. I have a book of folklore which is nice, but I wanted something that explained the native pantheon or belief structure. They have taught me much, the native cultures should be much more respected and cherished and learnt.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Navajogay reporting in.

    The really interesting stuff I found to be the black magic, although the prices to be paid are far beyond anything I would be willing to pay.
    The goal is absolute debasement/defilement of everything good, moral and holy.
    This is achieved through singing holy ceremonial songs backwards/in reverse, eating shit (this is the tame way in most Indians go for), necrophilia, homicide of a loved one + cannibalism for abilities like Shapeshifting.
    I met a guy who was able to "read" my life experiences just by looking at me. It was dark spooky shit boys

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Any good books on the subject?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      some of these skin walkers also go through the process of self-mummification for occultation/so called immortality. they can die, but they feed off a dark web of belief in the devil that cascades across north America and is weak in south America, specifically around the Chile area.

      t. Laguna pueblo occultist

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I ever tought they were just some kind of nahual/Brujo than its mad with either drugs/age or something,and lots of what the people call skinwalkers are another kind of entity.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would scour this blog if I were you.

    https://palomayombepnw.blogspot.com/2014/12/nsala-malecun-malecun-nsala.html?m=1

    "During the Haitian slave revolt of 1790 while the French Plantations were set ablaze by the fires of revolution, the grimories of former slave owners were pilfered and carried away into the jungles of Haiti.

    A type of re-genesis took place as the gaze of African eyes fell on the sigils of European spirits. These former slaves realized that these grimories contained the true secret power behind the French, Spanish, and Portuguese and sought to possess it for themselves.

    These mostly Congolese former slaves applied the methods of African spiritism to contact the Goetia spirits.

    They did not want to hide behind magical barriers or isolate the spirits inside containment fields in order to inquisition them.

    Rather like with their own tribal ancestor spirits and deities, they desired full integration with the goetic spirits.

    They delved head first into the mysteries of these European genies by inducing full spirit possessions.

    Only by full immersion into the dominion of each goetic specter could the African sorcerers truly know the hidden power behind their once captors. Now not only could the goetic spirits be wielded against Europeans along with their own tribal magic, they had a deeper understanding of the European mindset that shaped western civilization from the shadows, and how to use that truth for their own benefit.

    Many of the late 1800s secret societies of Haiti such as the Bizango, the Sanpwel, the Flying Men, and werewolf and vampire societies, even the tradition of Jamaican Obeah, has at their foundation the structuring of the magical orders and hierarchies as found in the European grimoric traditions."

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lots of the sons of slaves of the plantation owners also got indocrtined in mason stuff along black euro magic, the majority of the revolutionaries where masons or simpatisers (using the logues as points of meeting etc).
      In the ibero-americas the mix of euro magic (sigils, circles, the magic iron cauldrons) mixed with the local indians along the different reglas (like congo, yoruba/lokumi etc) and you have now a lot of sorcerors in places like matanzas than have a very unique take on magic.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    my dad taught me one and said to be careful with teaching it. it uses my people's language and requires a cigarette. you call out for any and all spirits to enjoy a smoke with you. I typically mention my family's clan name and my dad's name, my name and how we are related so as to invite good spirits from my clan.

    if you have some ancestors or other affiliations of good people I'll teach this summoning ritual to you, but if you're some fricker trying to talk to Hitler (he's a vampire by the way) I'm not going to help you

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You realize the same people that fricked over your ancestors are the same people who want you not to teach/talk about what you know as it would interfere with the more governmental magics. I'm not saying you should, it probably would have saved me some torment, but it may be a trap to teach it as native spiritually/magics can be used as a focal or pivot point in society against the current powers that be. Just a little unsolicited commentary. I wish more natives were open about their spirituality, it would likely help the schitzos have less uncomfortable schitzoness.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    C

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