Tobacco Tea Purge Ceremony

Has anyone experienced this? It's a common prerequisite to ayahuasca consumption in South America.

I'm interested specifically in the effects of the tobacco purge, not the ayahuasca. Does it really cleanse your body of toxins and put you in a meditative state?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Does it really cleanse your body of toxins
    no
    >and put you in a meditative state?
    nicotine is extremely water-soluble so it’ll probably get you hella buzzed, yeah
    also dangerous

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP here:
    There's stories of people dying, obviously from nicotine poisoning since traditionally they drink 7 fricking liters of the tea.
    There are also sketchy "shamans" in Peru crushing up cheap additive-filled cigarettes instead of using natural leaf which could be the reason as well.
    Just throwing that out there before someone here eats a pack of cigs.
    I'm going to research the method and try to replicate it safely.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > they drink 7 fricking liters of the tea.
      holy shit

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some spirit, entity, etc. With South American origin, perhaps Brazil/Amazonian told me that ceremonial/ritual use (I.e. not recreational) removes parasites from the mind and body.

    That's up to debate but there was also the reminder that tobacco with the least amount of processing involved is better, and without the additives. How true it all is I don't know.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >kills parasites
      Makes sense considering nicotine is an evolved defense mechanism against bugs eating the leaf.
      >ant takes a few bites
      >gets paralyzed and dies
      Same idea as cactus spikes preventing animals eating it. Unsurprisingly, the mechanism of death in humans for nicotine is cardiovascular arrest or respiratory muscle paralysis. It's just that we can handle a much higher dose than a bug.
      Arguably psilocybin is to defend against consumption as well, i.e. chimp eats shrooms, has a psychotic breakdown, never touches a mushroom again.

      > they drink 7 fricking liters of the tea.
      holy shit

      yeah lmao, the shamans probably have insane nicotine tolerance and then some college girl tries the same and consumes like 10x the LD50

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s dip spit.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    idk but i've been smoking tobacco, weed, and only drinking coffee and eating mushrooms for like a month now and i feel super powers as frick but psychically

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      micro-dosing or tripping balls?
      describe your psychic powers

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Both.
        The psychic abilities I will describe seem mundane.
        Pattern recognition, thought clarity, vivid imagination, discernment.
        I can tell what people are thinking, but it doesn't feel like I'm reading their minds quite yet - just highly perceptive to language, both bodily and spoken.
        Persuasion comes easier, though now I only want to persuade for the benefit of the listener.
        Higher mental faculties increase all ability, know that to be true. The extent and limits are yet to be seen and require much testing and evaluation.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds sick as frick, gonna try. Although it would likely require cycling on/off every month or so. Not sure of the long term effects of daily psychedelics, but there's gotta be a downside.
          What strain of mushroom if you don't mid me asking?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Any psilocybin containing mushroom will do, but I usually have golden teachers - but besides that I take whatever is available.
            I've been taking mushrooms regularly for a few months now and there is a downside. You will want to leave your old life behind, and sometimes that means becoming distant with old friends who aren't willing to come along for the journey of living a better, happier life.

            You can still hang out with them of course. I still visit the stoner skaters downtown and hang out with them for old times sakes. Things are better now than when I was with them every single day accomplishing nothing, but I still care for them.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >hat means becoming distant with old friends who aren't willing to come along for the journey of living a better, happier life.
            crabs in a bucket man. that's not a downside, it's necessary growth

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Both.
            The psychic abilities I will describe seem mundane.
            Pattern recognition, thought clarity, vivid imagination, discernment.
            I can tell what people are thinking, but it doesn't feel like I'm reading their minds quite yet - just highly perceptive to language, both bodily and spoken.
            Persuasion comes easier, though now I only want to persuade for the benefit of the listener.
            Higher mental faculties increase all ability, know that to be true. The extent and limits are yet to be seen and require much testing and evaluation.

            https://i.imgur.com/TOUF8mp.gif

            idk but i've been smoking tobacco, weed, and only drinking coffee and eating mushrooms for like a month now and i feel super powers as frick but psychically

            piece of shit junkie

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was stupid and consumed way too much lobelia inflata, which is often called “Indian Tobacco” once. You really don’t want to do that to yourself willingly.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i assume the downside is violent vomiting but isn't that the point -- purging yourself?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was more than that, the most violent diarrhea I’ve ever had on top of the vomiting among other symptoms. I believe I almost died. I was weakened for like a week afterwards.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          jeez. it's not normal tobacco, so it doesn't have nicotine, i wonder what poisoned you. it supposedly has medicinal properties

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It was more than that, the most violent diarrhea I’ve ever had on top of the vomiting among other symptoms. I believe I almost died. I was weakened for like a week afterwards.

            It’s from lobeline, a well-documented toxin
            >ingests poison
            >is violently ill
            >/x/fw

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Although it may be used medicinally,consuming lobelia causes adverse effects, which may include sweating, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, tremors, rapid heartbeat, mental confusion, convulsions, hypothermia, coma, or possibly death.The root is toxic and can be fatal if eaten.
          Anon you almost died

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is this? Also ay here anything on jfk conspiracy?

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don’t listen to this fool. This is literally how you make poison…

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19272738/

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