There's an entity above God, isn't there?

That's why nothing makes sense. God is real, but there is something "above" God, even. I feel like I'm correct about this. Anyone want to discuss this in-depth?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Infinity's a b***h, huh.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shoop da woop modafuka

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        well, if there really is such thing as infinity, then yes it's very feasible that there are infinite number of beings above each other. I try not to think about the concept of infinite too much though because it starts to make me feel really small.

        oh my, I haven't seen that meme in a while. You truly have been around this godforsaken site for a while

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Of course, it's God.
    Do you understand?

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You are correct about this. I think where the confusion comes in is that "God" is really Yahweh which is a lower God much like all the other "Gods" that humans worshipped. Supposedly Christians are praying directly to the God of Gods but I don't think that's particularly useful because it's like sending a letter to the CEO rather than to a vice president. There are a ton of vice presidents that have nearly the power of the CEO of the company so they're likely to be far more responsive. The Gods also have an agreement among each other not to go against the other's will.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yahweh is a lower-tier God. He has been conflated with El, the true top G of that pantheon. I'm not sure quite the history of it, but El was to the Canaanites(iirc) what Zeus was to the Greeks -whose religion was influenced by other proto-religions in the same sphere of influence. By the time the old testament was written, Yahweh became conflated and was taken as the same thing as El and Yahweh (OG Yahweh) combined.

      Been a while since I've looked into it, but feel free to research it yourself and correct wherever I may be wrong.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > I think where the confusion comes in is that "God" is really Yahweh which is a lower God much like all the other "Gods" that humans worshipped.

      Jehovah is really another bronze age egregore as He's described in the OT. I think it misappropriates universalist ideas of god from Persian culture and applies it to a low level ethno-tribal deity. The gnostics, namely the Marcionites recognized YHWH as a demiurge or artisan god. He literally originated as an artisan God. He was a metalurgical, volcano deity worshipped by Kennites and Midianites. They put significance on metalurgy for making implements of war. The Levites appropriated this deity and worshiped it, hoping to gain military victory over their enemies. They forced the Judeans to exclusively worship it when they were losing battles against the Assyrians with the hopes that the devotion would lead to victory. When they were in captivity, they appropriated universalist ideas like Ahura Mazda and promoted their egregore to sole creator of the universe. Its pure idolatry masquerading as anti-idolatry. The name YHWH itself is an appropriation of a universal truth. It means "I sm that I am". This refers to God as being the essence of being and isness. In this sense, This is another great blasphemy, in the truest sense of the term.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If we want to differentiate between Ayin and Keter

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No dont think so.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Next up: Anti-anti-anti-Christ

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have to imagine some aspects of reality are so fundamentally incomprehensible that its literally impossible to conceive of them by any theoretical intelligence bound by our universe

      This is one of the reasons why esoteric mysticism is probably the more optimal spirituality

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Mysticism is very much material, not spiritual.
        It is simply understanding the subtle workiungs of this material reality and manipulating them to your desire. It's literally just science on a higher level.
        And esoteric just means "insider understanding". Data Entry has esoteric information.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I actually originally spent around 5 minutes looking for a better wording. What I actually mean is something akin to: belief in a hidden and unknowable nature of reality. Occluicism or something. Occult doesn't work because it implies humans secrets. I don't know if a word exists for it
          This is different than typical

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            > oops
            ... Than typical religions because it says the truth will never be found and there will always be unknown and hidden things

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      God can't do something that's illogical. For something like the stone that means he would have to not be able to lift the stone (fulfilling the criteria of the stone) and lift the stone (fulfilling the criteria of his power), i.e.doing something and not doing it at the exact same time

      • 2 months ago
        DoctorGreen

        >God can't do something that's illogical
        illogical? He simply uses omnipotence to stop being omnipotent
        like removing infinity out of the equation. this is not a question about power but identity
        it's not a surprise no one of understood it. you all are stupid

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >describing something indescribable
          >tripgay
          many such cases

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          word salad

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        God is quantum

        Aldo it's like of we were playing a game and using exploits during the games stirybto beat it faster

        To the characters in lore that's impossible but to us, their gods, it's simple

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why can't God do illogical things? He could make a square circle but humans wouldn't be able to comprehend it and would probably go insane looking at it. You underestimate an omnipotent God that operates in all dimensions and can alter the laws of the universe at will.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Why can't God do illogical things? He could make a square circle

          This perfectly explains how Logos is the true God of reality. There's governing laws in this reality thatbare incorruptible. The logos in geometry and mathematics perfectly illustrates this.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based

      This will make the rick and morty femboys seethe

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kenoma and pleroma. Look it up.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pleroma i know about. What is kenoma pray tell?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The demiurge’s playground. Hell is here.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because the true architect doesn’t want our attention or acknowledgment.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Too bad!

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if there is something above god then he isn't god

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's gods all the way up...

      People really cannot fricking fathom the idea that this is ALL JUST GOD. That the only thing, fricking ever, is only ever going to be, GOD. The *same exact thing*.

      There might be layers and levels to it, but it's not because one part is more "GOD" than others. The entirety of it all is GOD, through and through.

      One of the funniest fricking moments ever (as far as I'm concerned) was realizing just how *all* GOD is, to the point where you realize the voice inside of you *is* GOD. There is nothing that isn't GOD and people don't realize that they are also inherently a part of that initially until they actually get what that means.

      Can I just say- I've been sharing this info since I learned it, for about three to four years now on this stupid ass website. It took until recently for people to start understanding what I've been saying, but I've been watching you all get closer and closer to the truth. Some of you have started repeating the info I've been giving out. I am happy at least to know some of it is sinking in. This is what we came here to learn and I am glad I am able to share those insights with people I consider to be "of the same feather".

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Right, it’s all a moronic debate. If there is something above God then God isn’t God. The whole point of God is that he is the unmoved and uncreated mover, the first principle. I AM THAT I AM, nothing existed before him or after him for there is no before or after God, he just IS and has always BEEN. He is existence. Nothing truly eternally exists but God, everything else is temporary. It is incredibly hard to wrap our heads around, it makes my head spin thinking about it because it is truly unfathomable to the human mind.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know how much you know about it, but this has been the last 3-4 years for me like I mentioned. Everything is so obvious and apparent at this point in many different ways, including everything going on on Earth right now. This shit has been going on a *long* time.

          In the Bible it talks about people going crazy seeing the face of GOD. I have no doubt in my mind they are describing what we (and what others) are dealing with, some people know a little more than others and can "rise above" it (not unchanged, though), others who don't know anything about what they're experiencing are at the worst risk of "going nuts" as most people would call it because of this truth/realization as they're ascending or starting to vibrate higher.

          Like this person said, GOD simply *is*.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Is it because we are confined in the container of our Universe where we apply laws and rules that put things in a restriction? (Cant create matter, can only transform it, Cant move faster than light etc)

            Maybe for 'God' these rules just don't exist. Which we could never comprehend because we always assert a 'Source' to everything; Because our Universe simply works like that. (If something happens to someone, chances are, there is a source for his cause. See someone with a bruised eye? They got it from somewhere) This also brings up the question of what causes birth-marks besides 'random' but that's irrelevant

            So its impossible for us to comprehend 'God' not having a source for those reasons.

            Even though in our own thoughts (if you dont have Aphantasia) you are not bound by any law or rule. You can fantasize whatever you know of. You can never think of anything you havent experienced before though (like imagining a color that you've never seen)

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's gods all the way up...

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It stands to reason that if we can convince of a being higher than us then that being would be able to do so also

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I demand to speak to Jehovah's manager!

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah it's the womb

  14. 2 months ago
    Seek truth

    There is no truth above truth, there is only one independent and enternal truth.

    It is not about being better or stronger, the truth just is. You either belong to truth or you do not. good luck trying to create your own truth.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you replace the term "God" with the term "Reality", you realise that there cannot be an entity above "Reality" since if it is Real, it is by definition an aspect of Reality.

    However there is one exception. Sure, Reality comes first. But for things to be Real, it must be possible for things to be Not Real. Just as there is God, there is Not God. Either Fake Gods, lesser gods, demigods or the Other Thing.

    Chaos. Pure, Unfiltered, Chaos. Within this Chaos is the Ability of Reality. Think when you asked yourself "What came before the Big Bang?". If the answer is God, one then asks themselves "What came before God?". Others may try to gaslight you into saying "Ooooooh nooooo there is nothing Before God, or After God, its Ourobouros" or some shit. In truth, For there to be Ourobouros, there must be the possibility for No Ourobouros.

    Finally, your "feeling that it is correct" is solid. Trust your gut. I trusted mine as it came to a similar conclusion.

    HOWEVER, without Reality (or God, if that is one's preferred term), there is no Primordial Chaos. Since Primordial Chaos has no basis of comparison. It is alone. Primordial Chaos only becomes what it is, not at the step of Reality's definition, since then Primordial Chaos would only exist in the form of "Not Reality", but later. It is a kind of Thid Wheel to Reality, but is making itself more and more present as religions fails to grapple with this odd yet fascinating Truth. This New Reality.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Apparently, from my own source, God cannot interact with the universe directly. He has to use some sort of system of "randomness" that dictates what happens in the Universe. But he created this system himself

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      God made a computer that throws a dice for 'chance', he is not allowed to throw the dice himself.
      Chance calls and God follows.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        God believes He is playing Himself.

        In Truth His opponent is Primordial Chaos.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Welcome to Gnosticism

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    God is a continuum of creation

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    well nothing makes sense if God is a demiurgus. but sophia wanted to create outside the other AEons so you may be perceiving this AEons who are "above" God in the pleroma

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most god's are egegores, collective tulpas. I believe the gnostics understood this on some level. They believed there was a demiurge or artisan type creator that created a false reality. Above this layer of reality was Sophia and purer forms of reality. A lot of gnostic ideas were incorporated into Kabalah. I think ots ore accurate to say that we collectively create the egregore,. Just as a brazen image is forged by an artisan in a furnace, the animating principal of the deity is forged out of the collective unconscious of a society.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, YOU. God and the universe exist in your own mind. Every consciousness is their own individual total reality. Sounds like a paradox? It is, and it is real.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      omg i got trolled

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The closest thing to a God outside the God we know is literally just God, in his macrocosmic form.
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    Se see God visible to us creation, but outside that is just the all that is and God. We're in his mind.

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  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is none higher than The Absolute, It is Absolute after all.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't usually waste time writing out anything here, let alone my ideas from several personal experiences and knowledge I've gathered over the years, but frick it, why not?

    So, let's take as fact the Perfect Sphere is the only solid that doesn't exist in any dimension we can fathom, probably only in the highest one, I'll dub it as Source's Own Realm (SOR, for short)

    In SOR, basically every thought of "GOD" is projected/dreamnt down to all the other dimensions, and it rammificates (equating with free-will, all the possible scenario bullshit, à la tree of life fashion/Kabbalah whatever you want to name it) down/upwards.

    So the part of "having faith" in this God, is basically that every single action needs to be carried out, good or bad, in a way that life or creation itself, turns into a sphere, it goes around itself, very hard to convey this mental image.

    Imagine all these branches of reality intertwining in a way there's no edges left and thus it can "roll", or flow like the buddhists like to say.

    And then what? Then we have a perfect sphere of understanding about itself, and our GOD ascends from his playground of other God's because he finally gets to play intergalactic marbles or graduate from God Kindergarten, some shit like this.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's why there's not any weight or actual negative consequences to you not living your life path, some version of you will do it in another timeline, you're just getting pushed away from that event line.

      Sure you could be a millionaire, but since you don't actively want to be one, you're living your best incel life in this current reality, while gigachad you in another universe is out doing his thing, if you really wanted you could be that version of yourself basically, but if you're not, no sweat.

      Actually, I don't know about this last part, since technology leads to mental and physical stagnation basically dooming us all in every single reality, because there's an algorithm that anticipates our own choices.

      It's tricky, it might be the Devil's actual way to win, preventing the sphere from being made by cancelling its construction.

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