The ultimate redpill is that we should stop existing in it's entirety, forever.

The ultimate redpill is that we should stop existing in it's entirety, forever.
You can see this pattern emerge in existing faiths such as Buddism. Since there is far more suffering than happiness, and no objective sense of meaning, that means the world was created out of evil and not good. If humanity didn't reproduce for 120 years, there would be no suffering, ever again. People will hate you for speaking this ultimate truth, as though it is a primordial sin.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am eternal

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      fpDp (divine)

  2. 2 months ago
    Elliot's Husband

    >You can see this pattern emerge in existing faiths such as Buddism
    Name five, (they actually exist but I want to hear from you), homosexual.

    • 2 months ago
      Elliot's Husband

      Also Buddhism is not about stoping to exist. So you've already failed.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've been trying to 'get' what buddhism aims for a while. It's hard to get.
        The aim is supposedly not to 'cease the exist'. But you're cutting oneself from earthly stimuli. You perpetually exist but as one who's not bound by anything. but to a normal person this sounds very close to 'ceasing to exist', even if it isn't, hence the mistake. Would that be a more accurate way to put it? I don't know. It's either that or their belief is very obfuscated.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know much about buddhism, but what you're describing sounds like a trap to me.

          The way I see it, if it's true it's possible to exist in afterlife (by also somehow escaping reincarnation cycle), then the path of cultivating one's energy (i forgot what the practice was called) should be good. But afaik, this process too relies that you have some sort of "attachment", or idea of self, ego or whatever.

          Whilst the buddhism you're describing, sounds like it tries to get rid of "sense of you", ego, so that some foreign force (hivemind) will sap you into their system (what happened to vaccinated people in Darling in the Franxx).

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Whilst the buddhism you're describing, sounds like it tries to get rid of "sense of you",
            Every description of it I've seen does seem to imply/get to that; either there's no self, it is an illusion, a dream (plus emptying your mind, sometimes?). So it's when you detach from it that you escape from reincarnation (which is also an illusion of the self?).

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It gets confusing because there are many layers of self and illusion. All that is certain, is that the soul evolves over time to take in more energy, and the peak of that energy is merging back into the one infinite creator.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >and the peak of that energy is merging back into the one infinite creator
            sorry no, i disagree

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The aim of buddhism is simply to get you to stop being delusional or at least see how delusional you are. Everyone is delusional almost all the time.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You are aiming to be free of suffering. That is the task that the Buddha went out to complete & the one that he succeeded at. As a part of the journey he discovered a lot of things about reality that can be verified but to our deluded mind sound strange. What so often happens & I as a Buddhist am guilty of this some times is that we tell you some of the exciting things that are found on the path & we forget that it is about ending suffering. The concepts of "ceasing to exist" & "cutting oneself from earthly stimuli" are things that become more clear naturally as you walk down the path. You come to understand that existence doesn't quite work the way that you thought it did. You come to understand that there is a way to be actually not cut off from earthly stimuli but rather be fully present with them in a way far more beautiful than you currently can imagine. The stimuli come & go & the beauty is still there. May you be at ease. May you have no enemies. May you reach Nibbana.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >ceasing to exist
            you only cease to exist if you have weak sense of will. ideally you'd cultivate your energy and carry it over to afterlife, retaining your will, instead of being dominated into submission into entities that could use another workforce laborer/soldier to fight in their astral/galactic wars. That's one thing buddhism gets wrong, trying to get rid of ego entirely, and this idea that you'll "merge" with something. To me the idea of hivemind just doesn't sit well, especially when there's great chance there are forces actively pushing for humanity to take that path, as opposed to libertarianism/individualism/free will sort of thing.

            I forgot what the practice was called, if it was form of qiqong or what, but you basically cultivate energy, so you can later carry it to afterlife, and this energy will sustain your "will" after you're dead. I keep which is which, but basically when you're alive you have both yin and yang energy, whilst when you're dead you apparently generally speaking only have yin, which is why many souls get b***h-made deals to either slave labour or manipulated into reincarnating again. When you cultivate energy into this certain area in your energy body I believe it is, you store this "yang" energy for later use in afterlife, or at least that's the theory of this practice.

            It's certainly better than nothing, because apparently the alternative way to sustain good sense of self/will in after life, is active prey of living beings. That means, energy vampirism, robbing living beings of their lifeforce. And since such methods will probably get you dealing with hellish entities/you too might end up being someone's pawn, it's just better to start taking more active role here on earth, and cultivating energy here. You can do it for free, it's all around us, why be lazy and not do something that the spirits can only envy us for? That's literally the only reason energy parasitisism in this place exists, those entities need us 4 it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Buddism: life is suffering and our goal is external death
      >Christianity: life is suffering but if you follow our 10 step plan you go to heaven 😀
      >Islam: life is suffering but if you follow our 10 step plan you go to heaven 😀
      >Judaism: life is suffering but if you follow our 10 step plan you go to heaven 😀
      >Greek myths: the gods are evil and men are basically a mistake

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I see this place as a playground for jesters and entities to play with, parasitisism and energy sapping. If there's truth that we reincarnate here constantly, then that proves that there's much more potential to our "core" than we deserve in our stay in this hellhole (provided that reincarnation thing is true).

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You are unbelievably cringe, my brother.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            glow more, satanist

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Get back in your cell prisoner!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        it seems like it was op that responded to you, im surprised he capitulated to your supposition of cessation with eternal heavenx3 the greek thing with no notion of seeking cessation at all..

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The post you replied to is OP (me) not sure wtf you are talking about anon

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            mixing up people is easy on anonomus forums, do you really not understand how listing 3 religions where you enter an eternal heaven has nothing alike with seeking an end to ones eternity? ie the list was ment to be
            >The ultimate redpill is that we should stop existing in it's entirety, forever.
            >You can see this pattern emerge in existing faiths such as Buddism.
            >Name five,

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    femcels poisoning the well taking their consequences and truth out of context to garner pity and use social stigma and peer pressure to change reality
    >the definition of cope
    in other words, business as usual for rosstie single moms that can't find a daddy for their bastard children.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Reproduction is a female quality. Women literally trap souls into existence via satanic portals (their womb and vegana)

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        no the satanic part is how they treat their veganas like a drug dispenser to drown men and themselves in Lust under instruction of the Devil using contraception, abortion, and irreligion.

        to reproduce as a Human is a divine act of Love between two who are dignified and respected by one another.

        they have raped it's sanctity and used it to cast the Devil's influence upon every corner of the Earth

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >to reproduce as a Human is a divine act of Love between two who are dignified and respected by one another.
          So tearing a soul out of the void against it's will and forcing it to live (suffer) is a divine act?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            doing it consciously so the child can grow in a world that you've constructed to produce conscious humans that learn how to realize the nature of their existence (your void soul theory for example) is divine.

            bringing life into the world for your own mental afflictions, material attachments, and without any intent of letting the life raise its soul up from when it had started at conception is the work of the chaotic neutral and evil

            some examples include child slavery, doing it for the child benefit scheme aka gibs, eggless roasties infesting new humans with telegony, fatherlessness, irreligious propaganda, babytrapping men who should not be fathers, etc etc

            I'm sure you can think of a few examples from what you have seen in your life as well, anon.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's just inherently true. For a mama bear to feed her cubs she has to kill the mama deer or her fawns. Existence and

    Can you get any sort of diversity in reality without this? Can you have a platonic bear and deer? What would be the point of them, why would you design them, what would they do, where would they live? The internal consistency of our reality unfortunately makes sense, as every aspect of life was fought for tooth and nail, and everything superfluous falls aside. It just makes sense that a rock stays on the ground where you left it until the Earth around it shifts.

    Its very sad but I'd like to know if anything besides All or Nothing exists. It seems like an Eternal Mind could think about a bear for a second, imagine it's intricacies and family and fighting and everything, but would vanish as soon as the energy to imagine it was directed elsewhere. In an infinite mind you could generate all matter and all interactions between matter without losing any of it, just changing forms. the Logos

    So that just might be where we are anyway?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Can you have a platonic bear and deer?

      Yes. Believe it or not, some animals display a remarkable conscience.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Until they get hungry again

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Touche.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do you know that suffering isn't the point? I know that this has been pointed out, but what else directs you to improve and learn? Also, we had a flood and now we have climate change.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >How do you know that suffering isn't the point?
      Why not just have none in the first place?
      Have everything die, back to a state where there are no conscious being in the universe. Then there is no suffering.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Then there is nothing.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Is that bad?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I like the idea of something progressing and feeling good.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >what else besides suffering directs you to improve and learn?

      A safe, comfortable environment where I can be certain my basic needs are met and won't be thwarted by an unpredictable force? My childhood was outstanding because there was virtually no suffering, thus I was able to be hyper productive as a kid and rapidly learn as much as I could. Even today, I live comfortably, thus my progress has been incredible. After moments of suffering, some of the best parts of me just dissipated. Sure, I rose above and came out okay but looking back, they were completely unnecessary for my growth. It only degraded my soul.

      Unfortunately, most people on this planet live in ignorance and despair through no fault of their own. They were simply dealt bad hands at birth, like spawning in the worst possible spot in a video game with no way of leveraging their way out. Desperate parents, no education, no guidance, no wealth, abuse, propaganda, the list goes on. Most people raised with these things end up being perpetrators and that's the point - to tether your soul in an endless reincarnation trap via guilt and shame. Gotta "balance your karma" or some nonsense.

      Roughly 9 million children die each year, obviously through no fault of their own. How can you justify their suffering along with the suffering of their loved ones? Have you ever worked in homeless shelters, food banks, prisons, hospitals, foster homes, care homes? The level of suffering is a disgrace and doesn't inspire hope or motivation in most individuals, not through lack of trying but because their suffering clearly devolves the soul rather than evolves it. Are there lessons in their lives? Duh. Would there have been better lessons were their lives safe from tragedy? Duh.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh, so you are a victim. The rest of us deal with the same issues, but you... Nothing can explain or fix the situation WE are in. If you want to check out, go for it, but choosing that everything should be destroyed because you don't like it is crazy. You have the option of trying to fix it. You've chosen to complain instead, making you worthless. You see the problem, but choose to type. I work in nature daily to preserve and restore natural communities. You have a solid complaint, but are you acting or folding?

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >If humanity didn't reproduce for 120 years, there would be no suffering, ever again.
    Wow I never thought of it like that. For only 120 years, if entire species stopped reproducing, it would all be gone. Kinda deep anon.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >If humanity didn't reproduce for 120 years, there would be no suffering, ever again.
    So.... Animals wouldn't suffer? No more hunting? No more fighting at all?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Humans are more conscious than animals. Humans know that evil exists and they are capable of knowing it's full extent. Humans, also, are the only thing who know that they will inevitably die.
      Ideally the goal would be for all life in the universe to end, but humanity is a good start I guess lol

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        How are humans more conscious than animals?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Read my entire post and get back to me

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think animals are more conscious of their material bodies than humans, who obsess over stuff in their heads and may not even realize they're not immortal until something affects them. Just because humans systemize their vocal chords to share their experience with others doesn't mean their experiences are more real imo. I don't think animals act with any less self-determination than humans do, who for all extents are still trying to eat and frick and entertain themselves

            >Ideally the goal would be for all life in the universe to end
            Never mind. I assume you are unhappy, so you think everything should die. Why complain about suffering if you don't care about all of the universe?

            Right, the monkeys after us would be left alone to their dark and increasingly complex thoughts 🙁

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No. He wouldn't be able to evolve to a monkey. This thread is talking about the destruction of EVERYTHING.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Ideally the goal would be for all life in the universe to end
        Never mind. I assume you are unhappy, so you think everything should die. Why complain about suffering if you don't care about all of the universe?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well every religion is basically a cope about how despite life being shit, it's actually good somehow. I'm just cutting out the middleman and saying life is shit. In that case why not just get rid of everything?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Most religions preach how to feel better by being better. They make the rules and standards, but it's usually positive. I teach and work towards improving the environment without religious influence at all. There is no middle man. Some of us live a honorable life with out direction. We deserve an existence.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Can you give me a decent reason for why life should continue to exist?
            >I teach and work towards improving the environment
            Why? Just get rid of it. No life no problems.
            >Some of us live a honorable life with out direction. We deserve an existence.
            Of what, external reincarnation, forever and ever? One day you will probably become like me and realize it's all an illusion. The ultimate truth is to cease to exist

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't fixate on an afterlife. If this is it... okay. I don't need a reward. I teach because I care. I volunteer because I care. I gather funds and grants for environmental work because I care. As far as I know, I will die at any moment, and that is the end. You seem angry at life or a god.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You seem angry at life or a god.
            Why wouldn't I be angry at god? What kind of would create this world?
            God wants human beings to procreate. The ultimate rebellion against something so incomprehensibly evil would be to go against that will. That is why antinatalism and nihilism is so shunned, because it is god's will to exist. Or in other words, god's will to be a slave in what is essentially hell.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            if there is god there is a devil
            why don't you blame the devil
            god didn't tell you do to the dumb shit in your life
            wasn't that your free will?

            why is all the bad shit out there so easily and why does it not go away

            are god and the devil taking turns running the world?

            or are you just too idiotic to see the bigger picture

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Why wouldn't I be angry at god? What kind of would create this world?
            You're acting like you know the plan or who, or what, god is. Why do you expect anything? This is your one shot. This is your one life. Try to enjoy it. I do.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            He just turned 18

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I know, or I hope. Anyone that thinks everything should be destroyed because they are unsatisfied has issues, or youth and no understanding of what life is.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm 25 and trying to sleep now. Hope I don't wake up in the morning. Bye gays

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            nite nite i luv u!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It is an achievement of monumental proportions to still be this angsty at 25! We must celebrate anon! 🙂

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're going to read this, because you want the attention. Life has no promises. It's up to you to make it a good one, but you seem unmotivated. Religion can't make everything okay. AA can't keep you/ make you sober. It's your reality, this is real. Look around. Knock on the floor. It's real. You can't rely on a god, you need to take control. Your anger/self pity won't help. The universe will survive. You won't. I chose a life of service. It suits me. Do what you will, but everything you said was juvenile and pointless. WAKE UP! This is all you get. One chance. Act accordingly.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why did they pick some trees for this image and not babies being raped/killed/disease ridden

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe you should think about it more.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The ultimate redpill is that we should stop existing
    This isn't possible, we are actually in the infancy stage of our entire existence. Which is joyous news! Our experience only gets more interesting as our ability to take in energy increases.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >If humanity didn't reproduce for 120 years
    Falling for the lie being pushed by every evil organization.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Falling for the lie being pushed by every evil organization.
      That doesn't make sense. If we actually didn't exist (went extinct), those organizations wouldn't exist. I'm not talking about hipster "don't have kids so you can party :)" I'm talking about the real deal.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The ultimate redpill is that we should stop existing in it's entirety, forever.
    I can't help but think that this is directed towards this community, rather than the entire world. When it should be the opposite, the entire world should stop existing, and this community should keep existing.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tfw the weed-chili & tequilla hits

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's funny how antinatalists remove themselves from the gene pool while people who don't care about their logic and suffering proliferate.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      In the end I guess it works out. Hopefully I will never be reincarnated again while the more animalistic humans will unfortunately continue to breed and suffer, probably for all eternity.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >You can see this pattern emerge in existing faiths such as Buddism.
    Buddhism doesn't teach that though, it teaches that you're the nothingness itself and that the nothingness is conscious. This myth needs to die right now.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >stop existing in it's entirety, forever
    Literally the one thing that cannot be done in creation.
    >Buddhism
    Buddhism is about dispelling all manifestations physical or spiritual so that ONLY the real you still exist.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We must challenge and lock the 'admins' of this reality (call them however you want).

    They are the ones allowing and generating the constant conditions for this suffering to persist in almost infinite and abominable cycles of resurrections.

    Sitting on their fat asses, far away from the horrors of this world, in their nirvana-like safe-space, with their unchallenged outsider perspective, they pull the threads of our lives mercilessly, unseen from us, and want nothing more but to expand and evolve the cosmic consciousness (this, by itself, is fair if done right) but what's totally inexcusable is that they disregard our well being in doing so. These buttholes, without having the basic decency and respect of consulting respectfully and directly with the being concerned, make scam deals with the being in between incarnations or in dreams which means frick all on a consent perspective if most of the being's lucidity is dormant and any deal made is not what is really going to happen, only another fricking scam to use us to meet their own ends. Just because these turds don't feel does not give them any right to subject a being to horrible scenarios. The end does not justify the means. They think it does because they never dipped a toe in this place.

    So after all this shitty experience is over and we overcome their bullshit, let's dump all these 'top' strings pullers, right in the very depths of the horrible reality they made and leave them there to experience their own hell as long as necessary to purge all their corruption.

    They don't deserve the fruits of our pain. They don't deserve to sit by our side when we come back. Only after they have experienced every single drop of pain they inflicted on all of those they tortured and fully understand the extend of their inexcusable cosmic mistakes, THEN they might have a right of audience in the new world, only IF they are truly transmuted. Fricking parasite turds.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This entire fricking post. 10000x. This is it guys, this is what gnosticism is about.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What if you just need Christ in your heart? Or is that an equivalent parasite requiring your surrender to his will? And if we must surrender to any entity at all in order to be saved from ourselves, why are we given any free will at all? Why would we be created? All signs point to us being food, science experiments, and/or entertainment for "higher" lifeforms.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, this is basically why I struggle taking Christianity too seriously. The prequisites are just that insane. "Oh you want to be saved? Better start climbing into my mouth goyim". What kind of benevolent god would do that?

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Since there is far more suffering than happiness
    If that were the case life wouldn't continue onwards, everything would just give up. Each moment, each being which strives to fulfill its purpose and find meaning and happiness, is an affirmation that the net positive of existence is greater than the negative.
    Every entity which finds love, affirms that their existence was more meaningful than it was bad, and they pass that along to a new generation.
    Each being which does not, simply ends their existence at the end of their life and slips back into the void, maybe becoming themselves once again when they have a better chance at existing and finding happiness than their previous life, or perhaps never finding such a chance again and remaining asleep until the end of time.
    Existence seems to favor those which strive for meaning, perhaps the meaning they discover outweighs the suffering and loss of those who never make it.

  18. 2 months ago
    BlueBoy

    The ultimate red pill is that there's like the mega ultra space God pill

    Hard to come across but the first step is to not be like, a total hater NPC

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can you elaborate on both of these points?

      • 2 months ago
        BlueBoy

        I made it up. The real pill is this

        There was no pill to begin with.
        You were the pill this entire time.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    But animals would evolve and create something as conscious. I don't think you can stop it.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I bet this dude has eaten food since posting this.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >there would be no suffering, ever again
    black pill: evil always wins, human consciousness is an unfortunate evolutionary vestigial feature, humanity should suicide in as humanly a way as possible

    white pill: to suffer is to battle against demons, evil may be strong but good wins in the end, the highest purpose for humanity is to fight evil on earth, humans in the future will look back on us as warriors who fought and won the war against the nearly endless horde of demons currently plaguing mankind

    are you here to suffer because of an accident beyond your control, or are you willing to find purpose in the little sphere of influence you CAN affect and see yourself as a warrior fighting for the ideals you feel are lacking in our world?

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