The kundalini spirit is NOT the same as the Holy Spirit. STOP SAYING IT IS. That is a satanic deception!

The kundalini spirit is NOT the same as the Holy Spirit. STOP SAYING IT IS. That is a satanic deception!

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.-John 3:8
    The Holy Spirit chooses you. Not the other way around. There is no "method" to force God's hand. If people can grasp that, then they won't be deceived.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's satanic deception is thinking the holy spirit is a person and not just a life force dynamic as is presented in literally every other mystical model. Fricking exoteric drone christians giving spiritual warnings is the richest shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You obviously haven't met him. I hope you do.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You are extremely arrogant for someone so completely incorrect

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you nailed it.

      kundalini awakening
      = allegory of the crucifixion
      = allegory of moses raising his serpent up his spine

      all exoteric drone christians should read this
      https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37872485/#q37876445

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are you the one who wrote those posts in the link?
        I haven't read all of it, but I want to ask you questions in case this thread dies.

        Everything is converging into leading me to learn about the Sacred Secretion. Can you please tell me everything you know about it?

        I would specifically like to know about how to resist the serpent, and redirect my sexual energy. I saw you also mention prostrations and I don't remember where but I saw it mentioned someone before. Can you tell me more?

        sfjkfsakjsa please just help me.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I would specifically like to know about how to resist the serpent

          - fasting, curbs lust
          - waking up early (avoiding specific late rem phases, where lusting occurs).
          - avoiding aphrodisiacs (meat, garlic, onion) -> aka vegetarian diet, its main purpose is to aid celibacy, its got nothing to do with morality or ethics

          > and redirect my sexual energy
          prostrations

          after a while, you will be able to do whats known as "voluntary piloerection" - guide that electricity or energy that causes goosebumps, intentionally.

          the metaphor of ablution is alluding to this. you basically do daily ablutions, by cleansing your "inner man" by guiding this electricity (aka chi, holy spirit or fire of the holy spirit) all around your body (microcosmic orbit).
          this is a regenerative, purifying process and takes time.
          along with prostrations and given looong time, you will regenerate one higher faculty, with which you will be able to penetrate into the astral plane during meditation (which you should also practice nonstop), which was known as "kingdom of heaven", jhana, samadhi, etc.

          once you are there, the higher entities (angels) will guide you further.
          at 7th heaven, you graduate from earth and vanish.
          literally vanish.
          the likelihood of you accomplishing this is near to 0.
          you need like mr. olympia level of genetic/spiritual luck to make it that far.
          its healthier to see it as a continual work, which you do across multiple life times which then culminates in one liftetime. on the flipside, you never know how much work you have already done and how much you have inherited, which lies dormant, from last incarnations.
          so just dont think about it, simply do!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > Everything is converging into leading me to learn about the Sacred Secretion. Can you please tell me everything you know about it?

            there is not more to know about it than in that link.
            the yoke of Christ (seed) is easy.
            just dont coom.

            if you can, avoid it altogether. if you wish to have a family, start super early and be finished with having offspring early (like not past 30).
            and only have sex for procreation, minimizing the loss of cristos.
            know however that this was known as a GREAT sacrifice.
            those who know its significance, weep about it.

            What about things like tantra etc.? Do you know much about them? I'm interested in them because if I get a wife I still want to have sex with her, just not ejaculate. I have heard of people doing this.

            Also I was just meditating moments ago after stopping a while ago because I scared myself, I would feel really weird just a few minutes into it. Just now while I was doing it, about 8 minutes in, my eyes started rapidly moving, then I felt really overwhelmed and I had to open my eyes. I looked up and gasps and it felt like energy was shooting up my or something, I have no idea. I felt pins and needles/goosebumps on the upper half of my body. Did I just inadvertently raise my christ oil when I was reading about it moments ago or did I psyche myself out/placebo myself somehow? I wasn't trying to do anything, I'm just trying to meditate to cultivate a more disciplined mind.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry I'm typing like a tard

            stopping a while ago because I scared myself due to what was happening; I would feel really weird just a few minutes into it.*

            I looked up and gasped and it felt like energy was shooting up my back or something*
            Also I want to mention I already don't watch porn, and I maybe coom twice a month.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Did I just inadvertently raise my christ oil when I was reading about it moments ago

            no, you just placeboed yourself because you are freshly imprinted with this info.
            it does not work that way and its not that fast.
            the rising of kundalini or cristos is not literally a 2 minute rise.. its a slow trickle over decades. just like pubert.. pubert does not happen in 2 minutes.
            and this kundalini awakening or crucifixion of cristos or whichever framework and lingo you wanna use to descrive it, is nothing other than puberty #2, contrary to #1, it is optional and occult (hidden). and it turns an adult into a saint (divinity, one united with God).

            > What about things like tantra etc

            yeah tantra is nice for that. if it has to be of abrahamic flavour, look into gnosticism or white sex magick (sex without orgasm).. they are into that.

            i am against it but if that is what you wish to do, go ahead because my taste is mine, not yours.

            > stopping a while ago because I scared myself

            yeah, you are like an animal who has seen his own reflection or own shadow, but does not grasp it and due to ignorance, fell into terror.
            its your own subconscious, all of the world is within you..

            it will be juicy when you face your first demons, lul. you will freak out. i can guarantee it btw., that you will face dark entities - all saints did and everyone had to conquer that mortal fear.

            you should be conscious of this from the getgo.. the astral plane is compartmentalized, depending on your spawning point up there, it may be hellish/demonic or it may be paradisical.

            but this is only heaven #1 and those places are mental fabrications of those who indwell them.
            that plane is dominated by the mind, anything you wish or want, happens..
            so if you allow fear to spiral out of control and turn into terror there, it will be really bad, may lead to pschosis and madness.

            thats why all spiritual frameworks teach you to practice mental hygiene, not buy into fear inducing ideologies etc.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > thats why all spiritual frameworks teach you to practice mental hygiene, not buy into fear inducing ideologies etc.

            this is also why meditation is very important, to be able to distance yourselve from thoughts and emotions, like fear, is kind of key.

            one thing is fact: absolutely nothing can happen to you up there anywhere.
            but you may be tricked to believe otherwise.
            especially if you listen to exoteric conspiratorially minded christians, who in the times of Jesus accused him of doing his miracles by the power of Beelzebub..
            you must ignore these people.
            the whole upward ascent is a natural thing, which God wants you to do, to return back to full glory.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            To clarify more, I would get scared because the thing that just happened now would use to happen. My eyes would go crazy and it would feel like my body was vibrating or something, and one time my ears started ringing.

            When this phenomenom happened just now while I was meditating, I decided to not get scared and stick through it, but I felt overloaded or something and I just had to open my eyes and stop. I didn't feel like moving and something was happening in my body. It might have not necessarily been cristos, but perhaps something else? Do you have any idea?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Do you have any idea?

            yes, the energy takes its natural course and flows through your body clearing your nadis. sometimes there are bigger blockages and it leads to spasms.

            when it passes up into the skull and goes near the ear, ringing occurs, cracking noises can be heard..

            this usuall stops happening after the first few weeks.

            its like you are starting your car for the first time after two decades, first its gonna rustle but once it gets going, it will smooth out.

            that energy can be controlled, if you focus with your inner eye to a certain body part, you will see that it will go there.
            for example, with closed eyes be at your right knee cap.. imagine and feel it.. and wait, stay there and do not think about anything else.

            after a while, for you, a newb, probably a longer while (5-10m), you will feel a pressure there..
            some feel pressure, some tingling, some warmth, some a cold rush, it depends on your constitution, its different for everyone.
            thats that "energy".

            move an inch up.. and wait.. then you will see it follows.
            later on, you will be circulating it through your entire body within 3-4s..

            and much later, you will be infusing your hands with it and blasting sick people's blockages and healing them!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            fun fact, i thought i add it as well..

            once your energy system is fully online, you will have a permanent pressure feeling between your eyes on the forehead.

            this indicates an awakened person. if someone made a portrait about you, they would have to put a halo around your head, because your energy system is now online.

            curiously, in the eschatology of islamic scriptures, the question is raised how the messiah will recognize his own people and it says that he will be able to discern them by a "white blaze" on their foreheads.

            i think this is the "seal of God".
            its not even something special, it comes very quickly, it sounds however so incredibly special... "seal of God"

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Did I just inadvertently raise my christ oil when I was reading about it moments ago

            no, you just placeboed yourself because you are freshly imprinted with this info.
            it does not work that way and its not that fast.
            the rising of kundalini or cristos is not literally a 2 minute rise.. its a slow trickle over decades. just like pubert.. pubert does not happen in 2 minutes.
            and this kundalini awakening or crucifixion of cristos or whichever framework and lingo you wanna use to descrive it, is nothing other than puberty #2, contrary to #1, it is optional and occult (hidden). and it turns an adult into a saint (divinity, one united with God).

            > What about things like tantra etc

            yeah tantra is nice for that. if it has to be of abrahamic flavour, look into gnosticism or white sex magick (sex without orgasm).. they are into that.

            i am against it but if that is what you wish to do, go ahead because my taste is mine, not yours.

            > stopping a while ago because I scared myself

            yeah, you are like an animal who has seen his own reflection or own shadow, but does not grasp it and due to ignorance, fell into terror.
            its your own subconscious, all of the world is within you..

            it will be juicy when you face your first demons, lul. you will freak out. i can guarantee it btw., that you will face dark entities - all saints did and everyone had to conquer that mortal fear.

            you should be conscious of this from the getgo.. the astral plane is compartmentalized, depending on your spawning point up there, it may be hellish/demonic or it may be paradisical.

            but this is only heaven #1 and those places are mental fabrications of those who indwell them.
            that plane is dominated by the mind, anything you wish or want, happens..
            so if you allow fear to spiral out of control and turn into terror there, it will be really bad, may lead to pschosis and madness.

            thats why all spiritual frameworks teach you to practice mental hygiene, not buy into fear inducing ideologies etc.

            >> stopping a while ago because I scared myself
            >yeah, you are like an animal who has seen his own reflection or own shadow, but does not grasp it and due to ignorance, fell into terror.
            >its your own subconscious, all of the world is within you..

            what i meant to say is that this "kundalini" thing is not something exterior to you, its not some "demonic influence" or what have you, its part of you, always has been.

            it lays dormant within you and can be optionally awakened later.
            its a facet to your infinite being. education dispell fear.
            you could call it holy spirit, but then you are conflating concepts, which are employed slightly differently in different frameworks.

            i think for a struggling christian who is conspiratorially minded, its better to drop all the "serpent" ideas and think of it as the "fire of the holy ghost" or "tongues of fire"..
            imagine fire rising up in you, if that meshes well with your mental constitution.

            its comical to shit yourself because of aspects of your own being, which you are ignorant of.
            its like a baby scaring itself with its fart..

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > Everything is converging into leading me to learn about the Sacred Secretion. Can you please tell me everything you know about it?

          there is not more to know about it than in that link.
          the yoke of Christ (seed) is easy.
          just dont coom.

          if you can, avoid it altogether. if you wish to have a family, start super early and be finished with having offspring early (like not past 30).
          and only have sex for procreation, minimizing the loss of cristos.
          know however that this was known as a GREAT sacrifice.
          those who know its significance, weep about it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      True, they are completely different things. Actually the Holy Spirit is not a "thing" at all.

      Mystical model is an oxymoron. Anyone talking about a "spiritual paradigm" is safe to ignore. Not everything can be subjected to the scientific method. Kundalini is only explained as an impersonal force to those who demand such an explanation. There are many explanations like this.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Mystical model is an oxymoron.
        Put the crack pipe down anon. Ineffability is accounted for in most models and they're still models and paradigms because they have a structure formed by all the elements that aren't ineffable.

        Only person that's safe to ignore is the one that tries to create smokescreens and avoid explanations, like you.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          model is an oxymoron.
          >Put the crack pipe down anon. Ineffability is accounted for in most models and they're still models and paradigms because they have a structure formed by all the elements that aren't ineffable.

          he probably also thinks that i^2 = -1 is an oxymoron...

          he is filtered by apparently oxymoronic appearing things. poor fellow

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Only person that's safe to ignore is the one that tries to create smokescreens and avoid explanations, like you.
          Debate is a safe way to avoid practice. An explanation doesn't remove ignorance by itself, although it might direct the attention helpfully. In that case the explanation is a skillful means.
          By contrast, the purpose of a paradigm is to arrive at an explanation. When the paradigm no longer leads to a satisfying explanation it is discarded. When people are satisfied with the explanation that a paradigm provides, they pretend the paradigm represents orthodoxy. Orthodoxy just means "right belief," and in this case of a paradigm the rightness is of a belief is judged relative to someone's individual preference. Paradigms are therefore useless on the spiritual path.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The holy spirit should be equivalent to our anima.
      But christianity turned it into a external device.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nooooo inviting the ass snake into the crown is a good thing.... oldish books say so

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kundalini Spirit: your nephilim genes, that came from Lucifer.
    Holy Spirit: your golem genes, that came from the Demiurgue.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lucifer is metaphor for humanity, you mongrel.
      the only one that fell from paradise because he wanted to be like God, was Adam/Eve, which is an archetype for mankind. the human vessel is the temple of the Living God, thus the human vessel is the container for Light, which is God.. that makes us the bearer of Light - Lucifer. those who worship Lucifer, worship God - they who help their least neighbor, is the greatest in heaven. those who still the thirst of the poor, still the thirst of God..
      that is the meaning of Lucifer, you conspiratorial frickwit.

      stop conflating concepts if you dont know.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The nephilim were the original humans.
      The golems were the sons of God.
      Accessing kundalini is accessing this best part of being human, our divine spark.
      Whereas accessing the holy spirit is surrendering oneself to eternal servitude to the Demiurgue.

      lucifer is metaphor for humanity, you mongrel.
      the only one that fell from paradise because he wanted to be like God, was Adam/Eve, which is an archetype for mankind. the human vessel is the temple of the Living God, thus the human vessel is the container for Light, which is God.. that makes us the bearer of Light - Lucifer. those who worship Lucifer, worship God - they who help their least neighbor, is the greatest in heaven. those who still the thirst of the poor, still the thirst of God..
      that is the meaning of Lucifer, you conspiratorial frickwit.

      stop conflating concepts if you dont know.

      Ok, golem.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nephilim are a byproduct of demiurge family member intermixing with humans, you dumbwit.

        if you are gonna use christian concepts and labels, at least know your lore.
        astonishing moronation

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What makes you think we're not doing it on purpose?

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The modern protestant American Christian is a threat to the human race.

    When I think of these people I envision a scraggly haired white woman, ugly and wearing basic clothing, with a nasty look on her face, bible thumping and calling everything satanic. Or an obese man in a mega church having a spasm and going "PRAAAISE THE LOOOOOOOOOOOORD" while speaking in gibberish

    These people are so far from original Christianity it isn't even funny. It's a game of chinese whispers that went so wrong they started speaking a different language and went gogohahabbaba

    MUH BIBLE VERSION IS THE TRUE WORD OF GOD!!!11

    What else is the fruits of their labour? Premillennialism, which is a scourge on humanity. They believe that they must bring about the end times so they can be redeemed. This is why the western world is in shambles.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you are damn right..

      whats sad is that the bible does actually contain the truth, but because they employed heave usage of parables/allegories and encryption, its impossible to get it out of it... chinese whisper does not help either!

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    since im already rambling, i shall provide some more of what i know.

    look into whatever gives you goosebumps.
    inspirational speeches, heroic actions, devotions, whatever it is - heck, even "ASMR", if that gives you the "tingles".

    its a form of qigong or energy practice.
    buddha thought it with his anapanasati sutta, which has also been completely perverted by interpretations (the right one can be found here: https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/33130-filling-up-the-lower-dan-tien-how-and-why/?page=5&tab=comments#comment-511077)

    buddha actually thought the cultivation of the sensitivity and control of this energy!

    in the yogic system with its 8 limbs, it is the limb called "prana yama" which literally translates to either:
    - breah mastery
    - energy mastery

    guess which is the mainstream interpretation? the false one, breath mastery..
    because the mainstream never desensitizes their spine, by stopping coom-explosions on their spines, to the point of becoming aware of energy, thus their interpretations are naturally biased towards the wrong things. they literally lack the faculties to discern these things..
    i could go on and on.

    every single religious framework is teaching this shit. its all pervasive.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Redpill me on buddhism and how to practice it properly. I ask this because I'm aware that there's 3 major strains of buddhism, and that likely some of the things the buddha said have been corrupted over time.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        there is no buddhism or christianity.. in the core, they all teach the same thing (perennialism).

        the core tenants found across all religions, hidden however behind different garbs

        its celibacy + energy practice/meditation.

        that is all it boils down to.

        what is celibacy?
        no orgasm, no lustful thoughts, not wet dreams, no lustful speech

        what is meditaiton?
        if you read the comment in the daobums link, you will notice that is no different than energy work, the circulation of energy which you became aware of after a good period of celibacy (and internal regeneration).

        all of that culminates in astral projection.
        the astral plane equivalent in buddhism is jhana 1.
        it is said that there are 8 jhanas, enumerated in two ways:
        - 1-8
        - 1-4 but 4 having itself 4 subdivisions, like 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4
        its irrelevant how you view this, its important that you get into jhana 1.

        are there shortcuts? yes, its called shaktipat or energy transmission when someone lays on their hands or sight on you and transmits energy, forcefully raising your energy and catapulting your spirit out..
        sadly, we live in a world where there are many scammers and wannabes, so the most rational approach is the one of the self-enlightened buddha (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratyekabuddha)

        the cornerstone of the work is celibacy.
        it has always been that.
        there is no way into the highest heavens, except your cristos and it crucified in your golgotha.

        the muslims and buddhists do prostrations to guide it up.
        but prostrations are useless without celibacy...
        its an axuiliary tool, the main thing is celibacy.

        the taoists have also contributed to this wisdom in their "neidan" writings, they talk about the transmutation of jing into chi and chi into shen (spirit) and then shen is dissolved into Emptiness (God).
        they hide celibacy behind the metaphor of going on the "bigu diet", grainfree diet.. grain is the main staple in asia and is alluding to sex.

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      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        some people can astral project without doing all this work. this is not because astral projection is something that anyone can do - which is what they teach in error, but it is because they have worked for it in previous lives.

        when you lay treasures in heaven, those are not lust upon reincarnation. you continue in your next life where you left of.

        in the astral projection communities, they also do not teach about higher projections. they leave it at that, but the astral plane is the lowest planes, you need to continue projecting up and up..

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      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the story with buddha is also to be taken allegorically.
        when he sat under the bodhi tree and was attacked by mara in his night of enlightenment, the final attack mara commenced was sending his 3 naked daughters (lust).

        buddhi = intellect/mind
        tree = spine
        lust = that which needs to be overcome by your buddhi

        its the same age old formula.
        there was no literal budhda nor a literal christ.
        whichever denomination you follow does not matter either, because they are all exoteric and you can penetrate into the esoteric/deeper truths from all of them.

        nirvana is called "fana" in islam for example.
        they too prostrate and are trying to be sexually pure.

        allegiance to "religion" is a form of tribalism. its not a religion.
        puberty is equal in every culture in every world.
        but we love to be trival, my soccer team vs yours, my country vs yours, my diet vs yours, etc. etc.
        forget all that.

        there is only one religion, which is truth. dont get caught up in those things.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        having said all that, if you MUST chose, then i would push you towards one which has non-dual teachings.
        so mahayana, perhaps. the problem is, they bloated the religion a bit too much with too many extra concepts, which makes it hard to grasp it all, its too much to learn.

        if you are not opposed to theistic religions, i would urge you towards advaita vedanta or kashmir shaivism!

        in advaita vedanta, this monk makes the claim, that the "emptiness" of buddhism is the same as the "fullness" of theistic religions, timestamp 51:00

        i would also highly urge you to watch the whole thing, its a great compilation and condensation about practically all the information regarding your being.

        non-dual teachings beget the golden rule btw. so whereever you find it, you can rest assured there was a saint which penetrated all the way up to cessation (jhana 8), met "God" so to speak.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The ass Chakra is real. And cigarettes and coffee make you poop by activating it

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    To my understanding there are hundreds of references to Kundalini in the bible, you need to learn Greek and Hebrew otherwise you won't notice those nuances, kek.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ok probably but you don't know for certain and your own book says blashpheming the holy spirit damns you forever so why risk it?
    Guess you're already fricked if so, what a way to go.

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