The Devi Bhagavata Purana explains reality

This reality is just a maya of Vishnu for teaching lessons. Either it's my personal maya or a shared leela.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lila_(Hinduism)

The Gnostics are dead wrong about reality. There isn't a demiurge and there is nowhere to escape to. When the lessons are learned you immediately awake from the maya dream and the consciousness wakes up in base reality. The zodiac will guide you through your lessons until you do.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't see how maya opposes the idea of a demiurge, even in gnostic mythos the demiurge isn't an immutable figure, so that would make him part of the maya.

    Under my point of view all major religions are correct in their insight, they follow the same trends, it just takes different tools to interpret for each one of them, that's when conflict and preference arises.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How many maya does it take to equal 1?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't get your question, the whole concept of maya stems from one, although if we get technical (as much as you can get with the ineffable) zero would probably be a better answer.

      • 3 weeks ago
        three more initiates

        ARARITA

        • 3 weeks ago
          three more initiates

          whoops messed up the trip

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            goddam why isn't it doing it

          • 3 weeks ago
            three more initiates

            better?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't oppose it, it includes and makes it irrelevant.
      Who cares of demiurge if The Absolute is all there is? Someone worrying about a "demiurge" is exactly like the guy in the tale suffering for his drowned b***h.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean anon, that's the message, it doesn't make it more irrelevant than your worry for paying rent which is equally illusory as a dynamic of maya.

        I think people tend to go to extremes when introduced to the paradigms in these traditions, reaching almost a point of nihilism because "everything is illusory". Despite everything being impermanent or illusory it is still a sphere of existence that everyone's interacting with, it is real in our scope of experience. The key word here is "impermanent" which is a way better word to use, because "illusory" ends up giving people the wrong idea due to semantics.

        Even the most enlightened individual still interacts with the impermanent and engages in its dynamics, with the difference that he does so skillfully. It isn't irrelevant.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not worrying doesn't mean not interacting.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Of course it doesn't because you can't escape the interaction, which makes it not irrelevant. It all comes down to having skillful interactions in order to not have it disrupt the quality of your experience.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not irrelevant but so low in the importance hierarchy that it doesn't even matter. But that's only if you understand the nature of Absoluteness, otherwise, you will still try to do stuff "the material way" like a normie.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >so that would make him part of the maya.
      its real if you believe it but that's the catch here
      you can end up believing in your own incarceration
      there's no one or nothing incarcerating you unless you submit yourself to the belief, and that's what makes you subject to it - what makes it 'real' (the way 'real' operates here)

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >demiurge
    Essentially the culture wrangling israelites that project a Maya upon moviegoers, listeners of music, or anyone who consumes their cultural media to make them content with paying 20% taxes their entire lives ie literally sucking their souls and enslaving them every fifth hour.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >content with paying 20% taxes
      I would be very content where is this tax heaven? EU communism is closer to 60%.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Not Wrong

    >Nonsense
    Fun can't be counted. As I will so it shall be - Only the Lord knows.

    "Consume and Deny"

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I dont believe what you say and i wont be intimidated odin why dont you talk to your birds

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I had 0 fun reading your shitpost.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Im not impressed

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Started off as a great post until your last paragraph. All mystic traditions tell the same story. This one is the story of Jonah.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The Gnostics are dead wrong about reality. There isn't a demiurge and there is nowhere to escape to.
    The Gnostics only "get wrong" with externalizing some antagonist. The Demiurge is real - that was your first life. We have all been the demiurge at one point.
    I dont think gnostics consider escaping to some outside place, either. Any more than the Puranas talk about "back in Vaiukuntha."

  7. 4 weeks ago
    hobkfag

    It's almost wrong, Skibidi Toliet is only true

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why should anyone believe in Vishnu? Why should we accept the Vedas as true?

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does not follow:
    -If it the water is vishnu
    -Beautiful woman was from vishnu
    -The family was vishnu
    -Everything Narada enjoyed was from Vishnu
    -Hell, Narada is probably from Vishnu
    Why does anything exist at all? Why does Vishnu ask for water to be fetched
    >Well it was supposed to be part of the lesson
    Why is there a lesson to be learned in the first place? Why even distract Narada with the woman that only existed

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Vishnu asks so that Vishnu can become Vishnu through Narada, and so that Narada can become Vishnu. All emanations that exist separate from him have one path: to return to source. No matter how vibrant and different from perfection they are, they all return to source, just as water returns to base level after the droplet disperses the waves enough

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >my hipster niche is more hipster niche than your hipster niche
    I really want for you to be robbed and raped by a pack of Black folk.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The Gnostics are dead wrong about reality.
    they are dead wrong about many things

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can't awaken if you keep believing the world was created by evil. The maya is incomprehensible from the worldly perspective.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so, whats the difference between Vishnu and Brahman?
    And why is Shiva often depicted to be above Vishnu?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >so, whats the difference between Vishnu and Brahman?
      For the enlightened, ultimately none.
      >And why is Shiva often depicted to be above Vishnu?
      Because hindus are a bunch of fricking morons incapable of grasping metaphysical concepts and rather would play with action figurines like elephant beings with multiple mighty arms and arjuna this and maytreya that.
      Like catholics and christians but streetshitter version.
      >Verification not required.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      probably has more to do with their own hierarchy of values as per their own identity
      all concepts of god seem to center a main figure, even if its their personal choice

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      also to tack on, i think different offshoots of 'hinduism' have a different understandings of these figures, and that they represent different things to them

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    their relationship with 'maya' and comments like 'illusion' are different than our own
    but imo here he is saying that once you realize this is collective projection, you realize you can influence this projection. like a movie you can help write
    as vishnu is representation of creative force

    >The Gnostics are dead wrong about reality. There isn't a demiurge and there is nowhere to escape to.
    that's absolutely correct. no one is incarcerated anywhere unless you absorb and adopt that belief
    even people who do the worst evil can change their course and balance their scales

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