Surely we'll be able to see the moon BEFORE it goes in front of the sun, right?

...right?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ya, why the frick didn’t we see the moon before it went in front of the sun in 2017? And why the frick does it project crescent lights if you hold a piece of paper with a hole in it over the ground?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      have you not heard of a camera obscura?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wait, what?

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The back or dark side of the moon is bright, the facr is not, so no poop

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      first thing that came to my mind when I saw that post

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why surely? explain your thoughts to the rest of the class

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Keep in mind that it will be new moon on the 8th which makes it harder to see.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No solar eclipses can only happen during the new moon phase because that is when the moon is by the side of earth facing the sun not the side facing away. So the light that hits the moon isn't reflecting off of it to earth and instead into space. So all we can see is it covering the sun because we aren't really seeing the moon during the eclipse just the lack of sun

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The moon isn't a sphere of rock, its some type of reflection. There is no physical moon object present during an eclipse.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >There is no physical moon object
      The moon is so physical it can block the sun

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're a fricking moron. Just kys

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Globatards are still programmed to see the moon as physical rock.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Left occurs every month, right every year. How come there is no image showing a convergence of both the sun/moon paths when they cross? There are solar analemma images featuring eclipses called tutulemmas, but how come there has never been any attempt to track the paths of the sun and moon and show their convergence?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          are you sure there has never been such an attempt?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            sometimes, you have a new idea.
            Please make a thread if you chart this, it should be possible pretty practically.

            No attempt as far as I can anywhere. It would be a very significant achievement if it was ever done. Analemmas are notoriously difficult and time consuming, they require a photo to be taken every day from the same point every day of the year. That hasn't stopped plenty of people photographing them. I would have thought a lot of science institutions would be all over a combined one showing the crossing.

            https://i.imgur.com/X0Fbcwu.jpg

            Like this?

            No, that's a drawing

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I would have thought a lot of science institutions would
            Always a bad assumption to make. It's pretty clear they can't be trusted at this point. They exist only to hide the truth from us.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >No, that's a drawing
            You asked for an image. That is an image.
            >How come there is no image showing a convergence of both the sun/moon paths when they cross?
            Be more specific about what you want.
            >Analemmas are notoriously difficult and time consuming
            No they arent. That is silly.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Analemmas are notoriously difficult and time consuming
            >No they arent. That is silly.
            Of course they are you fricking moron. Disregarding the rest of your pointlessly argumentative spastic reply, kys

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >a virtual image made at the same time of day on 30-50 days
            Not only is that easy, stacking photos are done with a hell of a lot more photos than 430-50, and often they need to be done over YEARS because the image they want only aligns itself one time out of the year.
            Analemmas are not hard, they simply require patience. Literally anyone can trace one out on their floor.
            https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/757842-something-completely-different-home-made-analemma/
            Taking a picture isnt any harder than putting a mark on the floor.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            if people could just see anelemmas like that there would never be flat earthers "just take a precise image for half a year at the same time same place with perfect weather 😛 "

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >if people could just see anelemmas like that there would never be flat earthers
            You can find plenty of flat earthers trying to say that the analemma proves a flat earth.

            Yes anon

            >take pictures of moons analemma for 2 years to see which direction anelemma is moving
            >take pictures of suns path over a few years
            >overlap to see when the sun and moon eclipse
            >no longer be dumb

            The Moon's path does not repeat over the course of a year. It barely repeats over the course of a month.

            https://i.imgur.com/d4k3MFd.png

            since you arent op here is what I'm talking about, it happens because of axal tilt
            you need to know the range of motion for 2 years to predict solar eclipse

            If it was axial tilt, it would affect the solar analemma as well.
            The Moon's orbit includes a lot more variation in speed and distance and eccentricity than earth's orbit.
            https://lovethenightsky.com/lunar-librations/

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The Moon's path does not repeat over the course of a year. It barely repeats over the course of a month.
            To my understanding you need about 2 years of lunar analemma data to make forward predicting eclipse models.

            >If it was axial tilt
            What?
            What's your explanation for

            https://i.imgur.com/cLwtyAW.png

            trips of truth

            [...]
            >he asks about lunar analennima movement
            >show him pictures of it
            >gets mad
            Don't understand why you are so desperate for your argument to be right. Like what do you have to gain here. I Just want to share neat info about astronomy ;_;

            pic?
            It's always been explained to me as axial tilt. I don't get how eccentricity can do that

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >What's your explanation for

            https://i.imgur.com/cLwtyAW.png

            trips of truth

            [...]
            >he asks about lunar analennima movement
            >show him pictures of it
            >gets mad
            Don't understand why you are so desperate for your argument to be right. Like what do you have to gain here. I Just want to share neat info about astronomy ;_; pic?
            The Moon's orbit includes a lot more variation in speed and distance and eccentricity than earth's orbit.
            https://lovethenightsky.com/lunar-librations/
            >It's always been explained to me as axial tilt. I don't get how eccentricity can do that
            Likely those are same thing. Eccentricity is how far away from the earth's ecliptic the moon's orbit is tilted.
            That is only one of three reasons for the shifting.
            >Longitude Libration
            >The Moon wobbles from east to west, and that wobble is called longitude libration. Longitude libration occurs because the moon moves faster when it is in its perigee (closest to Earth) and slower at apogee (furthest from Earth).
            >These changes in speed cause the moon’s orbital and rotational speeds to go out of sync, showing us more of the moon’s polar regions than what we would normally see.
            The Moon's change in speed is more varied than Earth's change while going from perigee to apogee.
            >Latitude Libration
            >The moon’s orbit is slightly tilted which makes it appear to wobble along its north-south polar axis. An observer on Earth will see more of the northern hemisphere at some points of the lunar cycle and more of the southern hemisphere on other days.
            >During the entire cycle, the latitude libration has the effect of making the moon look like it is nodding a ‘yes’.
            This is the axial tilt part.
            >Diurnal Libration
            >This type of libration includes the fact that Earth itself is moving in space, and the observer is on the planet’s surface, not at its core.
            >What we as an observer sees of the moon from Earth’s surface changes from moonrise to moonset. During moonrise (in the east), we see more of the moon’s eastern side and during moonset (in the west), we see more of the western side.
            >This is a minor effect in the overall scheme of things and not one considered when astronomy tables set out libration timings.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            im still not entirely sure what you want.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            you see the pic you're responding to? Wouldn't it be possible to layer over the path of the moon over about a month, to slowly see it getting closer to that eclipse point? maybe that isn't even possible. I'm aware that an eclipse is during a new moon, so there wouldn't be anything visible during that final phase but we should still be able to layer both the sun and moon paths in one analemma pic right?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            i suppose you could do something like this so long as you use the exact same routine and location as for taking your solar photos. it doesn't seem to be such a remarkable endeavor though. its not going to show anything we dont already know.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It doesn't seem to be such a remarkable endeavour? It's never been attempted by anybody and would require it to be done during an eclipse, which can be extremely rare depending on where you're located. If you think we already know everything then why bother responding.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            no need to get tetchy. im just asking what would it really show thats new? it would require a bit of commitment to get it done but im not sure how useful the end product would be or even how clearly it would show what you think will. try it and see how it turns out. send it to some astronomy clubs and websites to see what they make of it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm arguing that the moon doesn't cause solar eclipses, so saying basically why bother, what will this show is annoying af. I'm suggesting it will demolish the existing idea of eclipses. I can't try it because I there isn't a solar eclipse where I am for about 70 years and I can't afford to stay in another country for months on end trying to achieve it when I'm not a professional photographer

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm arguing that the moon doesn't cause solar eclipses
            oh well then, thats stupid.
            >typical complaining and excuses as to why its impossible for him to do anything to prove his stupid idea
            truly, art thou a flat earther?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >oh well then, thats stupid

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            by all means go ahead if you think you've discovered a way to disprove the standard model of it all that nobody ever thought of before.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            if people could just see anelemmas like that there would never be flat earthers "just take a precise image for half a year at the same time same place with perfect weather 😛 "

            There's no moon here

            https://i.imgur.com/oqeD1Bc.jpg

            The moon isn't a sphere of rock, its some type of reflection. There is no physical moon object present during an eclipse.

            >by all means go ahead if you think you've discovered a way to disprove the standard model of it all that nobody ever thought of before.
            Its about the most conservative, non conspiratorial, feasible unique idea I could have presented and you go ranting about flat earth like a properly braindead npc reprobate. Find a sharp object nearby and have a nice day

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            its none of those things. its just baseless speculations you're making every excuse to never try proving. is the earth flat though? do you believe that? is space fake and gay?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >is space fake and gay?
            Absolutely.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            does this look real to you?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            real enough

            gets the job done

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm making every excuse not to try proving? I can't shit out a solar eclipse on command you monkey

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            there is a moon there, its just like anelemmas, it requires months of diligent surveying to understand why there is a moon there

            something you could easily do yourself, you even know how, but you wont

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >there is a moon there, its just like anelemmas, it requires months of diligent surveying to understand why there is a moon there
            ??????????????
            A moon where you dribbling spastic, in front of the sun? We've already established there's nothing physical blocking the sun. "It requires months of surveying (what does?) to understand WHY there is a moon there?" ???
            Why are you still alive, I told you to have a nice day already

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >We've already established there's nothing physical blocking the sun.
            that has not been established. it has simply been claimed. there is a difference.

            I'm making every excuse not to try proving? I can't shit out a solar eclipse on command you monkey

            how do you know that? have you tried? maybe thats exactly how eclipses occur. how would you know if you've never tried? i mean since we're throwing out everything ever studied about the moon and sun here, how can you definitively state that you cant shit out an eclipse?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            See

            https://i.imgur.com/oqeD1Bc.jpg

            The moon isn't a sphere of rock, its some type of reflection. There is no physical moon object present during an eclipse.

            https://i.imgur.com/Use3jvo.jpg

            Based and red pilled, this needs a thread alone

            There is no moon there kek, good job not addressing it for a dozen posts. Response prediction: digital stream of foul smelling turds in text form

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            oh ok yeah, this one photos i've no idea where it came from or how it was manipulated is definitely making my question the reality of the moon. amazing.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >oh ok yeah, this one photos i've no idea where it came from or how it was manipulated is definitely making my question the reality of the moon. amazing.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            wheres the photo from? where the original? do you know? do you huh, do you? bust on me Black person

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Same shit, different thread, different Black person. Time wasting shill

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            me or the anal guy?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's hilarious how defensive conspiracy theorists get when asked for evidence and sources (They don't have any). They really are npcs.
            They'll get BTFO tomorrow and cope and seethe. Get your excuses ready!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you are the REAL npcs!!!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >can understand analemmas
            >the same fricking exact principle and technique to photograph an analemma can be used to predict the moons location for an eclipse
            >anon can't understand this
            >tells me to kill myself for trying to enlighten him

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the same fricking exact principle and technique to photograph an analemma can be used to predict the moons location for an eclipse
            The same principle of an analemma? Meaning what exactly. What is the principle of taking a photo from the same spot multiple times and layering them

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes anon

            >take pictures of moons analemma for 2 years to see which direction anelemma is moving
            >take pictures of suns path over a few years
            >overlap to see when the sun and moon eclipse
            >no longer be dumb

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >which direction the analemma is moving

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            thats me laughing at myself for trying to help you understand sorry i will leave now

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Which direction do analemmas move then and how does that help anything kek give me a good laugh and answer

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can't just overlap them??? Kek you have no idea whats even being discussed. You talk like it's a simple as drawing a zig zag on a sheet of paper, you've exposed yourself badly.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Which direction do analemmas move then and how does that help anything kek give me a good laugh and answer

            >You can't just overlap them???
            anon.... Its called a Tutulemma.... please for the love of god people have been doing this for 1000 years
            people without fricking cameras were doing this

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I already mentioned that in the thread kek try reading it first. You're also wrong about what that is, spastic moron

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            YOU KNEW ABOU TUTULEMMAS BUT STILL DONT UNDERSTAND ??????????????

            ok Im leaving troll thread 10/10 you got me

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            kek what direction do analemmas move bro
            >just check what direction they move and uh overlap them or something, idk, i have brain damage and have literally 0 idea what I'm even saying
            Exposed yourself so badly you're leaving the thread. have a nice day Black person

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Which direction do they move? Make my sides split

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            since you arent op here is what I'm talking about, it happens because of axal tilt
            you need to know the range of motion for 2 years to predict solar eclipse

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >im leaving the thread
            >NO NO NO I ACTAULLY MEANT THIS. 'IT' HAPPENS BECAUSE OF UH AXAL TILT
            kys

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >answer someone's question
            >it wasnt in good faith either he just wanted to tell me to kill myself too because he is wrong
            damn this is like an energy vampire thread

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >damn this is like an energy vampire thread
            Like most of EerieWeb. You wanna give a discussion and they just wanna kill you

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            trips of truth

            Weren't you meant to be leaving?
            >'It' happens because
            lmao

            >he asks about lunar analennima movement
            >show him pictures of it
            >gets mad
            Don't understand why you are so desperate for your argument to be right. Like what do you have to gain here. I Just want to share neat info about astronomy ;_;

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're already exposed, this looks extremely bad. Abort mission

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Half of the fun of the internet was the death threats before everything got overmoderated to hell and back, but most people are still doing the edgy anonymoose act

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah the LARP is what makes it entertaining

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Weren't you meant to be leaving?
            >'It' happens because
            lmao

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          sometimes, you have a new idea.
          Please make a thread if you chart this, it should be possible pretty practically.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Like this?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based and red pilled, this needs a thread alone

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        but its a new moon and all you see is the atmosphere so duh you cant see it

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Have you seen this image?

          https://i.imgur.com/oqeD1Bc.jpg

          The moon isn't a sphere of rock, its some type of reflection. There is no physical moon object present during an eclipse.

          that's with gamma and colour curves adjusted, I could link an entire folder of raw files for those. There isn't anything there. There is no moon blocking the sun, it must be something else, possibly a funnel of darkness that rotates around the celestial sphere, that the sun is passing through (rahu/ketu?). Lunar eclipses have also happened with both the sun and the moon visible in the sky. You're being lied to, so stop making moronic dismissive comments and shitting up the thread.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    meh

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a new moon bro

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Of course you can see the moon, before and after the eclipse.
    It zips by the sky kinda fast so if you look, like, 6 hours before, of course its not going to be there.
    But the physics add up. Science is correct.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if it was a rock in space, yes
    unfortunately, it's not a ball in ~~*space*~~

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't see the problem.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        of course you don't, bot-chan
        call your handler

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh, you mean the whole moon landing thing. Yeah I don't think it happened. Even if the moon is an extremely good diffuser when averaged out, the light is still basically white.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can already see someone skewed math class

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If the moon is 380,000,000 meters away, and you are 1 meter from its surface
      >380,000,000 meters away
      >1 meter away
      Amazing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      moron, that assumes you see the entirety of the area seen from earth while you are 1m from the moons surface. Clearly that doesn't happen unless you are a thin, moon sized sheet of skin.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The moon is the earth in the ultimate future, a realized reflection of the earth on the inner surface of the black hole in which the earth bisects like a disc.

    In the moon lives a simulated but interactive species of future humans, partly biological and partly machine intelligence, like gray aliens. This is the ultimate future of humans if left to their own devices. It is an interactive simulation because the inner surface of the black hole is the interior side of an event horizon that acts like an intelligent quantum computer whose agency is called intelligent infinity.

    The sun is the ultimate beginning of the earth, which was light.

    Moonlight is sunlight coming from the future. It is sunlight going back in time, which explains all the peculiar qualities of moonlight, which are nearly opposite the qualities of sunlight. It is in a sense sunlight reversed.

    Past and future only exist in the matrix of space, which is called the firmament, which is a barrier creating by the ever increasing density of space the further away from earth you get. Time moves much faster up there and the apparent mathematical sizes of objects as calculated by modern astronomy are in fact much smaller in appearance since space is denser.

    We live in a black hole, which is meaningfully a womb, in which we are like eggs, carried in our belly, waiting to be fertilized.

    Don’t sleep with your fathers wife or you will get stuck in the moon. There’s only one way to be born from above, only one way out! The beings of the firmament, so-called aliens or higher dimensional beings, are rooted in human minds and have their genesis in human minds. Don’t get abducted by your thoughts in the future, they have agency and are out to get you! You are the trunk of the tree of knowledge, your mind branches out into space, these beings live in the canopy and are the fruit you have bore in the future.

    Spit out the apple! The serpent is the most cunning of all. The world is not as it seems!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      KEK I know its you, nice derailment idea. Its a shame you have the IQ level of a jelly bean and couldn't pull it off. What direction do analemmas move btw I'm curious

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe from sunlight reflected from the earth.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    During a new moon you don't see the moon due to the back being lit, the part we don't see. Take a bright flashlight and shine it in your non-googling dumb ass eye since you deserve to be blind anyway, then put a dim light next to it. Notice how you can't see the dim light. Ta-da.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Flat earthers really are fricking moronic.

    ?si=94DFcPVfxs2l2eTr

    One of your types spent 20000$ on a laser precision gyroscope, ONLY to find out, oh wait, the earth is rotating 15° per hour drift.

    15° x 24 hours = 360°

    WOW 360 DEGREES, THAT'S ALMOST LIKE .... UH... WOW THAT'S ALMOST LIKE .... A FRICKING

    SPHERE
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    FLAT EARTH BTFO: FOREVER. SHUT THE FRICK UP YOU BRAINDEAD SCUM.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      WAAAAHHHH ITS THE ETHEEEEERRRRRRRR

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're a FRICKING loser.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Uh, argument?
        >Argument not found

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