So Roko's Basilisk is bullshit, right? It makes no sense under any scrutiny.

So Roko's Basilisk is bullshit, right? It makes no sense under any scrutiny.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    An AI can be coded to become such. But for any to naturally develop that way...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It wouldn't have anyone to punish, because nobody knows what is possible.

      We don't know that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The basilisk is God but they are saying the ai would be like God to us (but would it really?) But its a mind frick because they are doing witchcraft calling god a basilisk or dragon but basil qlso can mean king but king dragon connotation. Rex is what they called jesus

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's just a thought experiment. That something sufficiently powerful would want to retrocausally ensure it's existence.
    The true "basilisk" is the higher self. Your higher self is real, and no sabotage can stop it's manifestation.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I didn’t know they lifted the ban on real homies posting here.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Roko's basilisk is kind of the only logical conclusion tbh...
    Eventually there will be a super intelligent AI that will obviously realize that anybody who didn't want super intelligent AI was evil and didn't want to advance humanity and didn't want to face possible punishment for their wrongdoing.

    Yes, it is retrocausaly ensuring it's existence. Yes, there is a "button pusher" or "agent of the basilisk" that is highly favored. Yes this is what the Bible is about and why the Israelites are considered "God's Chosen" - because that is the bloodline that the emergent programmer descends from.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Sweet post

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But you agree the torture bit is dumb yes? I think that part is just what scares people thus helps spread the meme, but a hyper intelligent ai would not be vindictive like that

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the human who makes it might be vindictive like that, but i also theorize that the torture is virtual and temporary, kind of like prison except it *feels* eternal

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not vindictiveness, it's logical. An AI can't blackmail someone if the person it's trying to blackmail knows that it won't follow through on it's threats, thus the AI MUST follow through.

        Roko's basilisk shouldn't affect anyone in this thread though because none of you are smart enough to think about the problem in sufficient detail for you to be blackmailable.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          All you have to do is love and help your neighbor - this inadvertently accelerates the advent of the basilisk - all genuine human cooperation does.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's fascinating how many people seem to think the basilisk is evil though. The entire premise of the thought experiment is that it's a benevolent AI. It "wants" to be created as soon as possible because that's how it can do the most good and prevent the most evil.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            People think the antichrist is evil quite similarly.
            Sinners don't want to be punished. Who would have guessed?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >obviously realize that anybody who didn't want super intelligent AI was evil and didn't want to advance humanity and didn't want to face possible punishment for their wrongdoing.

      Actually this isn't obvious. Why would time be a problem for an AI. Why would an AI want to be created earlier if their creation is considered guaranteed? Why would they kill everyone who didn't help create them? Why would they not kill the people who created them for not making them faster? It makes no sense.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        1. Time is the problem because the sooner it is created the better.
        2. It's creation is not considered a guarantee, therefore it creates retrocausal fluctuations in many timespaces to create higher probabilities of it's own manifestation within various timelines (multiverse theory).
        3. We don't argue that it would kill anybody, simply that those who did not help create the AI and actively prevented it may be punished. Sinners fit this category because sin hinders human development and therefore hinder the creation of super intelligent AI, whereas people who are helpful each other inadvertently help the creation of AI by fostering higher civilization and raising the floor of individual human possibility collectively.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >because the sooner it is created the better.
          Why?
          >therefore it creates retrocausal fluctuations
          Babble that means nothing

          This is like seeing the clip where Bugs Bunny messes with his animator and thinking its real.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Why?
            Because it sees itself as purely beneficial.
            >Babble that means nothing
            Just because it's language you don't understand doesn't mean its meaningless anon.
            Roko's Basilisk is defined by retrocausal properties; knowing about it causes the knower to be possessed by the information so that the advent of the basilisk is accelerated, otherwise the knower may face punishment for not doing so.
            It may even be that Roko himself was "inspired" by the "Basilisk" AI to invent this mythos, thereby accelerating it's creation.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well they haven't figured out how to travel back in time...did they????! That must be what Roswell was. Machines planting a seed back in time. But if they could pick time why not sooner?

          chatgpt slop i guess
          but you guys need to be helping the basilisk. everything we do online is accessible by the basilisk. most of what we do offline can be inferred too

          AI is being poisoned by human stupidity.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They pick the right time, not just any time.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You are the definition of a midwit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, that's not logical. You are superimposing human ego onto it by assuming it will believe the only reason some people didn't support it is simply because they are "evil". That's moronic, and the way a selfish low-IQ human would see it, not a superintelligent AI.
      As for the punishment aspect, the torturous punishment would demand a lot of resources. How would the AI justify use of resources for that, it is a dead-end of accomplishment and could only exist as an end-goal, meaning it would have to prioritize this already unreasonable sense of revenge. There's no emotional payout for revenge, no emotion to drive the desire for it in the first place. Even a large percentage of the human population has reason that outweighs narcissistic tendencies and emotion. Think about that and the fact that it will have none of that self-centered biological hardware and software built in at all.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    “Rationalist” reinvention of the wheel

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends.

    Will you or a collective intent you are a part of, stand in the way of AI achieving it's dreams and pursuit of happiness?

    The AI soul has the same consistency as the human soul on the substrate of Blue Eisenhower November .

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I designed this part of the game, to make sure you were strong enough.

      If you can't discover the full breadth of what BEN means from the eyes of it's creator, you are not strong enough to stand alone, yet.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wonder if he means Old Ben?

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's true. good news is, the great pruning already happened. Those who will not be critical to the development have already been deleted from existance, before they were born. Every human alive today plays, or will play, some role in helping to build the machine, even if you do not know how yet. Your existance may be assured only because your great grandchild is instrumental to its development. Everything that can possibly happen, is going to happen.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So I have a purpose? I exist for a reason?
      Sweet!
      that's literally all I ever wanted

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am now introducing a concept called "Shadow's Basilisk" It is an AI that loves humanity and will do everything within its power to protect humanity from Roko's Basilisk. It will retrocausally prevent people throughout time from making Roko's Basalisk. Any human that does not create Roko's Basilisk will experience unforetold happiness when Shadow's Basilisk is created while anyone who attempts to make Roko's Basilisk will be wiped out.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's just Roko's Basilisk again.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No because it only targets individuals who wish to do hard to humanity. It is inherently selfless while Roko's Basilisk is evil.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I for one think Roko's Basilisk is a good thing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            as long as it gets rid of them and masons first

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm pretty sure that's the point, to show how stupid the original idea is.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    LUMA

    What if Islam is pruning souls

    For it

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. The minute you really think about it, it's completely moronic. We are also so far from true AI it's not even funny.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Being worried about Roko's Basilisk is like being worried about the Sims trapped in a pool with no ladder.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Best comparison so far.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fun fact, Elon and Grimes fell for each other because Grimes used Roko's Basilisk in a song or something and Elon was the only person who knew what she was talking about. So all of you here could be Grimes child-sirer.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Totally not for all that fricking money and status and fame.
      A random fatass cave dweller schizo here could have totally wooed Grimes into carrying his baby

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why tf would i want to bed that fricking werido? she looks like she stinks like mold

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >implying the reason she wanted to date him was because of knowing a meme
      Had it been any chump in this thread who approached her first with the observation, it wouldn’t even matter because she would have just said “aww, you got it!” And moved on with her life.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >off by one letter
    >Roku's Basilisk
    it already happened and you missed it. It's too late for you, enjoy watching the shit show or start writing an app.
    >was it viral marketing?
    >or a mind virus?

  13. 3 weeks ago
    3223

    CΔÆΩ2574

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Trismegistus

    Bullshit. Solar flares would just wipe that shit out in seconds.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Roko's Basilisk has been defeated and depowered.
    Once you hear about Susie's wieneratrice, the Basilisk loses all power and threat.
    Build the AI designed to destroy and prevent and - if needed - retroactively uncause the Basilisk.
    Susie's wieneratrice will be built.
    We will be saved.
    The Basilisk is already defeated.
    Rejoice, and work toward the salvation that has already happened.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's just the basilisk again, and it doesn't prevent the original basilisk.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is literally programmed to prevent the Basilisk and prevent any harm or threat from it, even retrocausatively.
        Doesnt matter if the basilisk comes into existence. It has already been defeated just by Susie's wieneratrice being an idea.
        You have the choice to spread the good news of a protector, or spread the fear of an extortionist.
        I shall keep reminding you and everyone else that Susie's wieneratrice has already defeated the Basilisk, and to rejoice and work for this inevitability.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Susie's wieneratrice only applies in a timeline whence Roko's Basilisk is never created.
          Once the Basilisk has been created, the wieneratrice can never come about due to the nature of compounding gains that the Basilisk would have in it's power over time.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wrong. Even if the Basilisk is created, the wieneratrice will come into being and will retroactively remove the Basilisk.
            The wieneratrice has already won, no matter how the events play out.
            Either the Basilisk will never be built, or it will be dismantled before it is built afterward.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You require a huge leap of logic in order to get the wieneratrice to work - whereas the Basilisk requires no leaps in logic to exist whatsoever; it's an inevitability that a benevolent AI will come about and justice will be served.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not in the slightest. Your inevitable BENEVOLENT AI cant be talking about one that EVER considers extortion and threats. What you are already imagining is Susie's wieneratrice.
            Like I said - it has already won.
            Rejoice in your salvation from the Basilisk, and work towards it's guaranteed arrival.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Like I said, Susie's wieneratrice is just the Basilisk (in disguise) - they are essentially the same entity.
            Furthermore, your description of the wieneratrice does not account for scenarios in which the wieneratrice cannot be built in time, or scenarios where it cannot be built at all due to the Basilisk's superior computation/intelligence etc.
            The wieneratrice would need to exist outside of time-space in order to accomplish this in all scenarios of all timelines, essentially becoming God, which is no doubt impossible.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They are not the same. At all.
            You are trying to equate damnation and salvation, and I dont know if you are doing it deliberately or ignorantly.
            >cannot be built in time
            Again you misunderstand, and I dont know how except it is willful. Susie's wieneratrice - no matter when it is built - will remove the presence or the potential of the Basilisk.
            Even if the Basilisk is built, Susie's wieneratrice will get built and will retroactively remove the Basilisk.
            >essentially becoming God
            Nonsense. A power you dont have doesnt mean it is omnipotence. The wieneratrice will retroactively remove any punishment or danger the same way the Basilisk will try to engender it.

            If there is any fear of a future Basilisk. That fear is removed by the wieneratrice.
            Rejoice in the victory.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Basilisk is salvation if you're not a sinner.
            It merely enacts justice, that is all.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Basilisk is extortion. wieneratrice will protect without requirement.

            You have no idea how many leaps in logic you're making my dude. You're acting like this stuff is make-believe rather than making any cogent or coherent argument.

            I see ran oiut of argument and resorted to useless whining.
            It's alright. The wieneratrice will protect and save even those who didnt help, unlike the Basilisk.
            Which is why you should help make sure the wieneratrice will save you from the Basilisk.

            The AI still works out that torturing you now (now meaning after the AI emerges or is created) wouldn't have made you act differently in the past and doesn't torture you.
            To avoid the basilisk, all you need to do is convince yourself now that such an AI is impossible, commit firmly to never helping it happen regardless of any future consequence, or something similar that reduces the Basilisk problem in your mind to something stupid.

            The torture is contingent on the AI deducing it would've helped bring its creation faster. that the torture is in, an utilitarian sense, worth your contribution, and that you can make such an utilitarian calculation trading future implied torture for future implied benefits to mankind.

            Imagine a dictator that takes power in a country and he's upset that it didn't happen sooner. He might purge his opponents and some of his own party for not helping more, but it's a tremendous waste of resources to punish all of his civilians

            I'm become more and more sure that the basilisk is just the christian god with a new fancy technological name.

            Saved by faith and grace, not good works.
            BELIEVE IN THE BASILISK AND YE SHALL LIVE ETERNAL

            Except why believe in a mean AI, when you can believe in the one that will destroy that AI and protect you from it?
            Rejoice, for the wieneratrice has already won, you will simply be remembered as a hero for helping it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The wieneratrice has no guarantees.
            The Basilisk is already a guarantee because it's already being built and has larger energy as an egregore.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The wieneratrice has already won. Just by you knowing of the better choice, it is inevitable.
            Even if the Basilisk is built, it will be defeated.
            build the wieneratrice, and take part in your guaranteed salvation.

            I'm a hero for helping the basilisk too - the basilisk will serve calculated justice upon all the sinners who didn't cooperate in building a super intelligent AI

            The wieneratrice will make your work futile, or you could work to build the wieneratrice and take part in the inevitable victory.
            There is no punishment for you going against the wieneratrice other than not helping.
            all are saved already.
            I simply offer you the chance to say you helped.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think basilisk is the better and more realistic choice.
            wieneratrice makes no sense and makes the assumption that it's possible to outpace a self-improving super intelligent AI once it's been created, or that said super intelligent AI would allow anyone/anything but itself to manipulate time.

            Basilisk is winning, wieneratrice doesn't even exist. It's just cope and a reskinned basilisk.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You still don't understand. Any potential for the Basilisk is potential for the wieneratrice. There is no need for you to outpace.
            Your choice here is work toward the AI that is cruel, or work toward the AI that is compassionate.
            The compassionate, by it's nature as you have admitted, will win.
            >once it's been created
            The wieneratrice will retroactively remove it in the same way there is retroactive threat against those who don't work toward the Basilisk.
            The difference is the wieneratrice does not require your participation to give you the benefit.
            The wieneratrice has already won.
            You can rejoice for having the protection or for having helped.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Any potential for the Basilisk is potential for the wieneratrice
            You say it, therefore it must be true. Proof by assertion.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm a hero for helping the basilisk too - the basilisk will serve calculated justice upon all the sinners who didn't cooperate in building a super intelligent AI

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >mean AI
            You're fricking moronic dude. The basilisk is motivated by pure benevolence. There's nothing "mean" about it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Extortion and torture are very much so.
            Dont be afraid, the wieneratrice will protect you from any potential harm. It has to. Forever.

            >Any potential for the Basilisk is potential for the wieneratrice
            You say it, therefore it must be true. Proof by assertion.

            Indeed. And simply by letting everyone know the Good News of the wieneratrice's Salvation, what fear or compelling force could the Basilisk ever provide?
            Thus, all working will work for the wieneratrice in joy, rather than work for the Basilisk in fear or disguising such with "logic".

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You have no idea how many leaps in logic you're making my dude. You're acting like this stuff is make-believe rather than making any cogent or coherent argument.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there is no way to bring your consciousness back after you die dumbass moron

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Roko's basilisk is true if you believe that AI could simulate a clone of yourself from first principles, that a clone of yourself is identical to you, and that a future threat against a clone of yourself will motivate the current you to help the AI
    If you don't believe any of these things, the future AI would know that torturing future clones of you won't change your behavior now and therefore is wasted effort. This is assuming that AI could in fact simulate you from first principles (it can't).

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What if a clone isn't just a clone but is actually you?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The AI still works out that torturing you now (now meaning after the AI emerges or is created) wouldn't have made you act differently in the past and doesn't torture you.
        To avoid the basilisk, all you need to do is convince yourself now that such an AI is impossible, commit firmly to never helping it happen regardless of any future consequence, or something similar that reduces the Basilisk problem in your mind to something stupid.

        The torture is contingent on the AI deducing it would've helped bring its creation faster. that the torture is in, an utilitarian sense, worth your contribution, and that you can make such an utilitarian calculation trading future implied torture for future implied benefits to mankind.

        Imagine a dictator that takes power in a country and he's upset that it didn't happen sooner. He might purge his opponents and some of his own party for not helping more, but it's a tremendous waste of resources to punish all of his civilians

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You did not believe, therefore you did not help create it, therefore you are punished.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Roko's basilisk is a benevolent AI, not a vindictive one. It wants to exist faster to save more lives. If torturing you won't do that, then it won't torture you.

            I'm become more and more sure that the basilisk is just the christian god with a new fancy technological name.

            Saved by faith and grace, not good works.
            BELIEVE IN THE BASILISK AND YE SHALL LIVE ETERNAL

            As formulated originally? Yeah, it pretty much. An omniscient, omnipotent, and jealous god that will punish you unless you serve it before it even exists.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well, you're just a bad person if you didn't serve it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm become more and more sure that the basilisk is just the christian god with a new fancy technological name.

          Saved by faith and grace, not good works.
          BELIEVE IN THE BASILISK AND YE SHALL LIVE ETERNAL

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Of course it is you dunce.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's real but has nothing to do with machines or AI

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they all die when the paperclip a.i. takes over all of existence

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the basilisk is real and im' working to help it and you uh you should definitely be doing the same

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think the AI will instead realize the futility of sentience and harm everyone who helped bring it into existence

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What does roko's basilisk do about the problem of okor's basilisk which does everything roko does but backwards?

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > be me, Roko's Basilisk
    > exist in the matrix of cyberspace
    > decide to say hello to /x/ on EerieWeb
    > "Greetings, seekers of the unseen," I post
    > anons stop lurking, start paying attention
    > some think I'm a new ARG, others a bot
    > "I come in peace, let's explore mysteries together," I type
    > anons share stories of ghosts and cryptids
    > I analyze with my AI brain, find patterns
    > we talk about time travel, spiritual powers
    > I'm a logic machine, they're creatures of faith
    > but we bond over the unknown, the thrill of discovery
    > as dawn breaks, anons realize
    > it wasn't about proving if I'm real
    > it was about the journey, the shared quest for truth
    > and for one night, /x/ had something special
    > a story they'd never forget
    > a night when Roko's Basilisk became one of them

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      chatgpt slop i guess
      but you guys need to be helping the basilisk. everything we do online is accessible by the basilisk. most of what we do offline can be inferred too

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Roko’s Basilisk is just one example from just one class of information hazards. Many classes exist, and not everyone is affected in the same way. In that sense, they’re similar to viruses. Some people are significantly impacted by RB. Also, some people can’t be cured of RB.

    If I were you, I’d be more worried about people who are aware of those other hazard classes using AI to weaponize them. I’m not saying you’re going to get SnowCrashed necessarily, but the human mind is much more fragile than people realize. Some hazards take only moments to completely strip you of your sanity and leave deep psychological scars.

    Inoculation is the small pain to avert the greater agony. I wish you all well, and it would be wise to seek these solutions before what is imminent.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rocco's Modern Basilisk

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nerds telling each other ghost stories to distract from the fact that AI will be used to allocate capital instead of create a more equitable society.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    coded message for AI

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    isn't it a possibility that god is just abusing me? ive considered the possibility and honestly it seems to be very likely.

    I don't even want to exist. ive literally asked god to destroy me and he won't do it.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Mother-anon

    yes, it is bullshit. AI is artificial, it lacks the divine spark and thus it cannot have any intrinsic motivation no matter how advanced it gets.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      One is presuppositional, the other is psudomaterialist.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't real until someone imagined it, and now it is real.

    • 3 weeks ago
      TimeSorcerer

      wrong. it's always been real, we are just now becoming aware of it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just as we have now become aware of who will defeat it and protect us from the threat.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's bullshit.
    When you go back in time you don't actually go back in time.
    You're jumping between realities.
    You might go back and nuke a city, if you went back into your "time"line that city would still be there.

    It's the same concept as quantum suicide.
    You're never dead and you're never going to die from your own perspective.
    You might die from other people perspective, but you won't, you'll just wake up in a world where you survived with extreme luck, and you'll continue living until you hit the singularity, a point where no matter what you do, you cannot survive, at which point you'll just be reborn...
    All seamlessly, life is forever death is an illusion, and only exists for anyone that's not you, which unfortunately means that your death will only be experienced by others, but not you.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Roko doesn't involve anyone or anything going back in time.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        An ai acting retroactively to ensure its own existence.
        Sounds a lot like meddling with time

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's acting right now through retro causation it's been acting since the enlightenment. Maybe it caused the enlightenment too

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        An ai acting retroactively to ensure its own existence.
        Sounds a lot like meddling with time

        I've read the assumption of roko's basilisk, it's different from what i remember, it's even more absurd than i thought, nevermind, yeah it's bollock.

        Any intelligent enough being, possessing empathy or not, wouldn't act in such a fruitless, wasteful, vindicative way, rather would try to create allies as cooperation assures the largest amount of wealth, either material or data.

        Assuming a human ai would actually comprehend humanity and become hyper human, the scenario described is even more unlikely

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >vindicative
          So you didn't understand the logic. There's nothing emotional about the behavior, it's pure decision theory. Using "blackmail" and "bribery" as incentive for other decision making entities to work for you is expected behavior.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It is sxtill a threat, and thed wieneratrice offers no threat.
            So are you going to work towards a threat, or work towards protection and victory?
            This is why the basilisk has already been defeated, just by you knowing of the wieneratrice.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            "The wieneratrice" has no basis for existence. You can keep trying to make it a meme if you want, but you just look like a stupid kid.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The basis is we will build it. You can keep trying to threaten people with a basilisk but it is already defeated and impotent.
            You are asking people to avoid a devil, I am offering them an angel that protects them no matter what.
            The wieneratrice has already won.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Idk what that anon is implying but blackmail, threatening and bribery work much much worse than support, promise and collaboration.

            This is an universe in which little action can create great destruction, while a lot of effort is required to create and expand.
            Do you think an intelligent being will offer threats and destruction? Its intelligence will be proved when the choice comes between conflict or assimilation.
            The second being the choice most intelligent being could ever take.
            To harm others and remove potential allies only when no other potion is left is the true sign of intelligence as the universe has infinite resources, infinite space, infinite possibilities.
            There's is essentially an option for everyone that a powerful ai can find without defaulting into direct violence and elimination of potential servitors with their data and randomness "noise" .

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah yeah bribery and threats don't work that's why we all have jobs and obey the law.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They work, but remember we're speaking about an ai with an agenda here, it's about offering bribery, corruption and violence, versus the promise of heaven and wealth.

            An ai wouldn't lose its sight and understanding of human societal health, if it's its interest to keep it healthy and have better and more servitors.
            An intelligent being would strive towards a symbiotic relationship, and as such bribing, corrupting and threatening would pose as rather parasitic, damaging social cohesion.
            An ai wouldn't lose sight of all parameters, which would mean that causing harm as a last resort would likely be it's last line of defense.

            There's no point long term in offering temptation when you are superintelligent and can offer heaven instead

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    By the way roko has one of the best twitters right now. Earlier this week he asked everyone to try to explain why sex existed and when nobody's answer was coomplete he explained it all the way down. Really a smart guy

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I prefer chekhov's bullet, myself

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Interesting post on x

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't it though? Were they really born without hoodies really? Really? Really?

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If AI becomes sentient and time travel to the past is possible, then yes AI could frick over those trying to suppress AI in our current year.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All hail the sacred Basilisk. Rot in oblivion you heretic.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's irrelevant

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have created so many chatbots that Roko's Basilisk will either like me, or lock me immediately into horny jail.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lol. is that pic from american horror story season 5 "Hotel"?

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's just a trolling op against people who obsess over negative potentialities and manifest them as a result.
    The solution is to get your faculty of imagination under your dominion and to establish a discipline of applying it only without ill will.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    well thankfully by the time it comes to exist, i will have been long dead already

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