So God's solution to the problem of evil is to voluntarily empty himself and suffer from the evils of the world with us?

So God's solution to the problem of evil is to voluntarily empty himself and suffer from the evils of the world with us?

I find it interesting how Jesus forgives his deborts by taking on their debts, this massive crime that we committed against God by literally killing him in the flesh is precisely what God uses to redeem mankind from evil.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't need a human sacrifice to forgive or redeem, Christcuck!

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don’t take it too literally it’s just a story

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, don't take your origin and fate story too literally dude it's just your one and only life on Earth and your everlasting soul to follow.
      Not sure why a homosexual like you bothered coming here.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The serpent attacks at all angles to try and bring down as many as it can.

        reddit spacing cancerous tourist thinks those meme arrows are for quotes, and thinks 'le demiurge' is a heckin' zoomer meme

        Cool non argument there bud. You sure showed me!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder if Christianity started as a funny story about a carpenter who somehow managed to nail both his hands to a board

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When Christians complain about Satan and then try to proselytize people into converting to Christianity, they talk about Jesus' sacrifice it sounds exactly like a Blood Magic ritual but ordered by the God who is also the son of God, who's paying a price to himself that he set for mankind.

    And somehow Christians are the only ones who believe in a literal Satan.

    Ironic there would be fools who actually run to the defense of God, the creator of evil and gaslighter of all mankind.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >When Christians complain about Satan and then try to proselytize people into converting to Christianity, they talk about Jesus' sacrifice it sounds exactly like a Blood Magic ritual but ordered by the God who is also the son of God, who's paying a price to himself that he set for mankind.
      My head cannon is that this was Satan's trick and that when you get up to the pearly gates telling Jesus you deserve to get in because his ritualistic torture washed away your sins probably isn't going to go over so well

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This and also:
      God is omniscient, meaning he knows everything ever. Meaning you have no free will and he creates people knowing they’ll never find the light and then sends them to hell.
      God knew every decision you will ever make before you were even born, but don’t sin okay? It’s bad.
      Christcucks are the most moronic I swear.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Confusion is the first curse on your head when you reject Logos. That goes for all of you. And it goes for every enemy of God in all of history. Whether it's armies or entire nations thrown into disarray or one of you. It's also why most of you are homosexuals.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Omniscience does not detract from our free will. We have free will so we can observe ourselves and come to an understanding of ourselves and why we need help and guidance from God.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You say all that yet end it with christ cucks are moronic. Way to contradict yourself.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they talk about Jesus' sacrifice it sounds exactly like a Blood Magic ritual but ordered by the God who is also the son of God, who's paying a price to himself that he set for mankind.
      Christ's sacrifice wasn't actually necessary, and it certainly wasn't a blood magic ritual, but it was a fitting way to handle things. Also, all the talk of Christ "paying a price/debt/ransom" with His sacrifice is metaphorical.
      And "God" is a single substance which consists of three Persons: the first we call the Father, the second we call the Son, and the third we call the Spirit. This language is also metaphorical, so don't take it too literally.
      A great deal more could be said about all this, but I'll leave it here for now.

    • 2 months ago
      Gwaihir

      The Pharisees accused Jesus of being Ba'al Zeruub, himself. They stated that his ability to drive out demons came from him being the Lord of Demons (Satan).

      It wasn't until several hundred years later, in the evolution of the development of Talmudism, that the ancient israeli sects dismissed the existence of a Satan and it was done adhoc to cover up potholes in their post-hoc rationalization of their denial of the Messiah.

      Shut the frick up moron. Talmudists aren't Israelites. Israelites believed in Satan, as in the entity God argued with about Job.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. The One cannot become more than One, you would know this if you truly conceived of what God is, God does not split Itself or empty Itself, because this would no longer make it One. Jesus was a virgin soul, His first birth had no karmic record, He was as pure as a man could be. He took on the world's karma and suffered for it for all of us. Think about how much of a sacrifice that is for a moment and you'll know the weight of his actions. A God, THE God suffered here on Earth for us to help abolish our sins, to help evolve humanity. It's hard for those who understand just how selfless these actions were to not be grateful to The Christ.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      God can do whatever He wants.

      https://i.imgur.com/lzfplZg.jpg

      So God's solution to the problem of evil is to voluntarily empty himself and suffer from the evils of the world with us?

      I find it interesting how Jesus forgives his deborts by taking on their debts, this massive crime that we committed against God by literally killing him in the flesh is precisely what God uses to redeem mankind from evil.

      The sacrifice was to wipe the slate clean but it doesn't keep it permanently clean. It was also to start a new covenant so that anyone can get to know God instead of it being closed off mainly to Israel. Through this, we are offered a chance to return to God if we want to.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        God could not be omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient if It split itself into pieces. Know this well.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, He can. And He already has.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Explain how something that is all present and all knowing can still be all present and all knowing if it becomes two separate beings independent of eachother or you're just talking out of your ass. It doesn't make sense and you know it doesn't, so why bother defending baseless claims?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            This "being" as you so put it is not limited to what you think is and isn't possible.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't care what you wish to call It, It still is One and only One, but being One means it is also All. Does a sun become it's rays? Does a tree become it's leaves? Does a river become it's streams? Of course they don't. That's my final word in the matter to you, good luck on your path.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. All the knowledge of creation can be divided out amongst everything, God can access it all at once we can only access our perception. A computer SSD doesn't store any data that you can access unless you power the computer with electricity but the data is not a physical entity and yet it exists and can be accessed. God is the source of all power and all life and all shape, God can observe creation from any point of view and every point of view, even that of a stone or a gnat.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That was my impression also, that everything we are and all we inhabit is emanated from It, not that we ARE It. I was splitting hairs because I feel it's so important to truly understand the Force we're discussing as intimately as possible to truly worship It. I understand It is behind and within all things in this plane. I feel like I'm so close to a complete understanding but there are tiny fragments of knowledge that aren't quite in place yet.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Everything is connected and God is in everything, he is the energy that sustains life and allows things to take form, the bible is a second hand, symbolic interpretation of metaphysics written by humans who wanted to build a civilization.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I agree with your first sentence and part of your second. The most popular bible is a misinterpreted and mistranslated copy of the original word that Jesus imparted.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It was also to start a new covenant so that anyone can get to know God instead of it being closed off mainly to Israel.
        Why does he need to kill himself in order to do that? In the old testament he just made a rainbow, the whole christ sacrifice is absolutely moronic when you look at it without brainwashing clouding your judgement.
        It also makes more sense if you look at god as a prophet/holy man/enlightened being like Buddha that later christians tried to mold into an incarnated god which resulted in all the stuff that doesn't make any sense about his story. Most of christian theology is just about trying to fix these errors either through semantic artifices or theological artifices

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not clear on the nature of sin and the need for redemption as such. It's something I struggle to understand.
      From what I can tell, through personal inquiry and direct experience, there is no bondage and everything is okay.
      Further, there is no separation between myself and God, no matter the appearance that arises before me to pass away.
      Even deeper than that, none of this phenomenal reality is even happening. I can't deny this, it is supreme in what passes for my vision
      And yet, all this seems to be happening, so I'll go along with it because really I don't have a choice and might as well.
      And all is happening as God wills, so it's not like I can do anything "wrong" per se. This isn't some theological claim, again this has been demonstrated sufficiently to me that I can't deny any of this.
      But there's a lot of contradiction and I just don't really understand.
      I'm sure this has already been fully explored in the literature. I haven't really studied in that way.
      But I do genuinely struggle to understand the nature of and need for Christ's sacrifice at the same time as I try to honor and be grateful for it.
      The closest I can figure is that I live in a post-sacrifice world and the nature of personal existence itself has changed, where all are now intrinsically free and I just don't know what I don't know? Either way the whole thing doesn't make sense to me at an absolute level. At a relative, basic human-level where there's good and bad and things like that, it makes a narrative sort of sense, but I know it's more than that. I just don't understand, although I would like to.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That was thought provoking Anon, thank you. As far as I can say about the karma cycle as I understand it, every spirit has it's job here (or elsewhere) to fulfil and the spirit allegedly takes on this job before it gets born here.. as far as I'm aware. The real reason karma exists isn't for the purpose of punishing people for their sins, because everyone is part of the One, we are actually being punished BY our sins. The goal of life and the universe as I understand It is to evolve, everything is in a state of evolvement right now, the universe is expanding, humanity is (very slowly) moving towards a greater love and understanding of God and each other, the planet we inhabit and the universe. We're still very early in the sunrise of a cosmic day, so we have many ages left to evolve to a state of near perfection, until eventually we end up at that stage. The Christ's sacrifice was gargantuan in nature because a purely holy Being intermingled with all us sinners, was punished by the very people He sought to save for the sins of the world. Because He had no sin of his own, He allowed himself to get caught up in the karma cycle, a pure Being, all to help evolve humanity and take on the weight of the sin. I'm not Christian by quite a margin, but I love and respect The Christ for His sacrifice and his untarnished word, it's a shame it was remoulded for the bible.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s cause God made people and then genocided and tortured them like a child playing with ants so everyone was too scared to want to be involved with this entity, which made God sad so he was like “here, come beat me up and kill me it’s all good lmao were even from all that torture and death and curses I put on you for daring to be human lmao, we good now”

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's crazy is that this anon is probably not even trolling.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cope. I call it as I see it. Read the OT

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I have already.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Low verbal IQ? Can’t read between the lines? You’re just told what’s good and blindly believe it despite the wicked nature of the demiurge being blatantly obvious throughout the OT. And then you’ll backtrack and just say it’s metaphor or feign ignorance. Because you’re a sheep in a child rapist cult that constantly justifies summary genocide of men, women, and children because you heard a voice in your head

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you're not allowed to have a different opinion than me!
            >i'm high IQ and you're not

            lmao

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >feigns ignorance

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm well versed, but
            >demiurge
            lmfao

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            So the all loving creator who told us not to murder anything also tells us to genocide our enemies and dash their babies against rocks? Cool story bro

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >our enemies and dash their babies against rocks?
            Hey, do me a favor, yea? Read the entire chapter that that verse in mentioned in. A High IQ intelligent person like you should understand the concept of context giving the surrounding verses.

            A highly intelligent, high IQ'd individual like you should understand how easy it is to be biased in an argument, using cherrypicked biblical verses to formulate an argument that doesn't make sense within the context you're trying to fit it in.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            God sent them to Babylon as punishment
            So the Babylonians were just doing what was forced of them. There’s not an excuse for such a blatant contradiction in moral values besides the obvious one, which you can’t seem to understand.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Hey anon! Your hypocrisy is showing!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The only way people can come to terms with the abusive and murderous entity that runs the OT world is that He came down in human form to experience what He put us through and make it even.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wow, such an edgy response from a highly intelligent, high IQ'd individual! I'm metaphorically clapping!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Better yet, Jesus exceeds the Old Testament god in every possible aspect in terms of moral righteousness. In both words and actions Jesus is the one that made everything right again and balanced the scales.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            But anon, Jesus is LORD of the Sabbath! He is I AM, silly!

            ur not giving him an argument, is he wrong? explain your thinking

            Neither was that an argument. If you want me to take the discussion serious, then stop saying stupid shit.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Remember when Jesus told the leper to offer an animal sacrifice as payment for healing him? Remember when Jesus quoted Isaiah to tell a crowd of people who He was in a subtle manner? Remember when Jesus spoke highly of Abraham? Remember when Jesus transfigured into light and spoke to both Moses and Elijah?

            Why would Jesus do this is according to you, the God (who is Jesus by the way lol) of the OT is evil? Did that ever cross your highly intelligent, 999iq mind?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            ur not giving him an argument, is he wrong? explain your thinking

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            reddit spacing cancerous tourist thinks those meme arrows are for quotes, and thinks 'le demiurge' is a heckin' zoomer meme

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The great filter. https://youtu.be/aCsZ3_db_Fk?feature=shared

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yep

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It will always be trespasses, not debts.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The religion of Christianity is a fabrication of the ego, which has the hobby of creating belief systems. Look how many texts exist and that were destroyed that depict Jesus and the events of the past differently. Basically Christ got hijacked by the ego.

    Realistically Christianity is what humans want Christ to be, due to their unevolved ego's. It gives a permission slip for war and violence, and a superiority complex (which atheists have more of btw), so the religion is what humans want the Truth to be.

    Jesus was killed because he was actually a-religious and did not nurture beliefs. The state he was in was abstract, he was in the state of being everything and nothing, so he experienced the kingdom of heaven here and now, and this pissed people off, since the ego wants to immortalize itself next to God.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

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  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He rose from the dead.
    People always forget that part for some reason.
    The things the sons of pride make cannot hurt or damage what is real.
    That’s the key point.
    He didn’t suffer to pay off some karma… He is God! He controls the karma!
    He “suffered” to show us it ain’t a thing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's absolutely a thing I think maybe just a fleeting a thing ultimately. I mean you know what it's like when you had a horrendous cold or some shit 10 years ago but right now it probably doesn't seem so bad in your mind, same concept maybe.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it’s absolutely a thing I think
        Yeah you’re right… it’s a thing that you think. But what you think is just a tree in a forest. Once you see the forest you will laugh and how focused you were on that tree.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hmmm. What if Jesus was just a guy? You die and go to heaven and you’re asked by an angel why you didn’t get circumcised and have a bar mitzvah. Oyvey.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      b-b-but man kind wasnt "redeemed" or "saved" from evil. Christianity did more to enslave man and was more of a system to introduce and maximize suffering unto humanity so some other order of beings could feast off us. JC might have been the last descendant of a royal family who had knowledge of superior physics and may have tried to save man by offering his flesh and blood as sustenance but that clearly didn't cut it. We originally came from Egypt and in Egypt we weren't ruled by Gods we WERE the Gods. We were immortals known by names like, Set, Osiris, Isis, Horus and Rah. at some point we died, egypt fell, and while waiting rebirth the world was reshaped by Christianity. We we reborn and branded with christian names to a new system that was based on lies and meant to maximize suffering. somehow, a new order was established that feeds off suffering. JC was basically just a criminal to the new religious order. He was maybe the last of a royal bloodline but he wasnt a God like Set was a God or Rah but he was descendant of royalty and carried knowledge of real physics and science and his style of extending goodness to his fellow man made him a criminal. and example was made of him and it ushered in the new era of suffering where its obligatory and maximized on humanity. We are all basically Gods and the lie of christ was that only "he" could bestow that power. The truth is we all had God like powers from the real knowledge and physics of the universe. Christianity is basically the result of eternal hatred for humanity as suffering is inflicted on us as our life force is siphoned and we are farmed and enslaved rather than born to freedom. its fricking obvious too.

      Jesus was just a guy, thats the thing. He was a God, but he was also just a guy, just like most of us.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        None of what you said is true.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          it is true. Real knowledge was removed and we have a slaves understanding of physics. real power is in real physics used by ancient "Gods" but for some reason we are ruled by ones they feed off suffering, which makes them evil, stupid, and vulnerable. humanity is ruled by them nonetheless. how the frick would you explain the current situation of the planet being ruled by blood sucking, idiotic homosexuals who will writhe and screech on-air incessantly if there isnt mass murder happening somewhere on the planet at all times. Trump times made that clear. introduce a constructive idea like preventing wars, building walls and bringing manufacturing home and the ruling elite, the liberals, the educated masses, lose their fricking minds. If they can't wage desert war and indiscriminately kill people en-masse, they have operatives shoot school children in the U.S and blame autism, white concert goers get taken out like fish in a barrel like its a day at the fricking park as mass murder is committed on them and brushed under the rug, white america is gunned down in the U.S in a manner hunters would pay to shoot big game in Africa with impunity. they put a camera on every black person with a rap sheet and call the cops with anonymous tips until they have a shooting they can make viral in order to mobilize swathes of americans as they're effortlessly puppeteered by the tens of thousands to riot, murder and torch everything in site. meanwhile, a small minority can do nothing but watch it all go down like a fricking symphony. people are literally too dumb to notice they get sacrificed for public opinion. If Christianity wasn't a lie to enslave humanity, explain why I am forced to live in a world where nothing makes sense with people emotionally charged about everything except our planet and people offered up for bloodsport as the murder machine has to always running full tilt. Catholicism has been in my family for centuries, i feel branded by it rather than anointed

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, you've just convinced yourself that it is.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're correct about most of the observations you made. However, the idea that this proves Christianity right isn't true. If anything, all the chaos we see is the culmination of the agenda. behind Christianity. I know you're sentimental about it, because its established tradition. However, that's part of the psyop too, as much as transgenderism is. Abrahamic religion is all about forcing the nations to submit to the God of Abraham. It has all established itself through the threat of death for those who refuse to believe. Your ancestors were tortured and threatened at one point in giving up their indigenous beliefs for Christianity. It serves the one world agenda. It also serves irrational compliant behavior, just as much as the VAX, blind support of war mongering, blind obedience, etc. IIt supports the blind trust of experts, as you are expected to believe in old books as the word of God. You are very mistaken. It also demonizes free forms of spirituality. It guilt trips us into being guilty from birth. Its no different from privilege theory or CRT. It asserts you have an original sin. Its all an emotional blackmail.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus died on the cross for the sole purpose of fulfilling the old testament and rendering the covenant the pharisees were abusing and had taken over void and establishing a new covenant. Nobody reads the 4 gospels.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >covenant the pharisees were abusing and had taken over void and establishing a new covenant.
      >covenant
      Just call it what it is, it's a blood pact with a deity. In ot they used animal sacrifices or killing their enemies, in the NT it's jesus and the blood pact becomes metaphorical(this is my blood etc)
      There is zero reason for an omnipotent all seeing god to do any of that, it's absolutely moronic.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My sides when none of you have actually taken any high level theology classes.
    The fact is this: an omniscient god does not leave room for free-will. It’s impossible.
    Most religion is bullshit we tell sick or hurt people to help them cope.
    Religion is a giant global cope.
    The reason we play along is because it helps people. It gives them purpose and a moral compass.
    High level theologian btw

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He was God in the flesh showing you the truth can't be buried..

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop putting another layer on top of reality.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You have been successfully mind fricked. Get your head out of your ass and figure out what religion really is. This simple task is more than many people can handle. Confinement within a false narrative is their fate. At least they will have the support of others who are equally deceived.

    You don't really get to start with the conclusions they provide to you if you are going to be aware of reality. If you can't set down the false narrative and develop your own understanding of what exists they will guide you to be their useful idiot tool.. and you will never even have a rough concept of who they even are.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    God's a little b***h

    If he's all powerful then that means he's also in charge of the suffering

    He created hell

    God is a control freak schizo

    I'd spit in God's face

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The God of the Bible doesn't exist, other than as a collective tulpa or egregore that billions of people pour their energy into. Its a scam that elites created to subvert and harness collective, psychic energy from.

      • 2 months ago
        Gwaihir

        >Everything is scientific, except elites can also harness magical psychic energy and shit.

        The absolute state of morons.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I know some paranormal things are true. I know it from my own experience. However, the idea some magical israelite rose from the dead to save us from God's hatred for us is a massive leap of logic. The idea that believing in the New Testament saves me from God's anger toward me and the idea that all things paranormal outside the context of the Bible is evil, is an obvious con.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anger can be righteous and justified. If you had a sister who killed your dog by shooting it in front of your child would you not be angry and resentful? If you were your sister and killed your brothers dog in front of his child would you not need forgiveness from your own actions from your brother? We are all God's children and we all disobey and commit evil even though we were commanded to do no evil.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Anger can be righteous and justified.
            Amen.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't disagree that anger is justified. Its a normal human response. However, this idea that the OT God has justifiable anger toward me for something I didn't do is BS.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jesus is the OT God.

          • 2 months ago
            Gwaihir

            Pretty sure if you want to be judged on your own merits, just your own, is an option, but it requires a perfect navigation of the Torah.

            It's not an option I would want to be judged on, but you do you booboo. Pretty sure your ancestors sins don't count into that judgement either. So your point is fine. You'll just be judged on your sinlessness or lack thereof.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            In the Torah, enire campaigns of genocide are rationalized by the concept of inherited sin. Judgement on entire nations is collective in that narrative.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No. They were judged on their collective culture, and you aren't them. Sodom and Gomorrah were reprehensible cultures, and you're not their descendant.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm part of "Edom" though, according to Hasidics. I'm part of "The Great Satan", according to the Ayatollah. I'm part of " the decadent west"/according to Russia. Because I reject Christ, I will be judge the messiah, along awith the unclean nations according to Christians.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            But I didn't kill anybody's dog. The Bible claims I inherit some judgement from Adam and Eve, 6000 years ago for eating a fruit that gave them awareness of their own nakedness. The logic of the Bible is emotional abuse. I had no control over this alleged cre. The idea that something is wrong simply because an authority tells me its wrong is also a great manipulation. Actions are wrong, because of provable consequences on other people for someonesvbad behavior.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You are wrong though, humanity inherited original sin but you are responsible for the sins you commit. All original sin did was give you the ability to sin, but you choose to sin every day, pointing to the truth is not abuse but instead is helpful so you can learn. You can plug your ears and hide your eyes as much as you want but the truth remains.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Paranormal/spiritual phenomena is like material phenomena. They are both part of the gabric of reality. Logic and science can be applied to both. Christianity creates a false dichotomy of faith and spirituality. Blind faith is no virtue. Science can probe the unseen realm, but religion has imposed a barrier on science.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yah, I agree

          • 2 months ago
            Gwaihir

            >Paranormal/spiritual phenomena is like material phenomena.

            Prove that baseless assertion.

          • 2 months ago
            Gwaihir

            How many spirits can you fit on the head of a pin? How much do they weigh? What is the scientific unit of measure for psychic forces.

          • 2 months ago
            Gwaihir

            What are their quanta, and by what mechanism do they draw these psychic forces out for "harvesting"

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The whole sacrifice thing makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.
    I try to accept a Christian religion. But I feel like the Jesus sacrifice is like a freebie I have to "give" the Bible creators.
    Like letting the scientist s have their "big bang" theory, even though I think it's largely horse shit

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its all emotional blackmail that they drill into peoples heads from the time they're children.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The God of the Bible doesn't exist, other than as a collective tulpa or egregore that billions of people pour their energy into. Its a scam that elites created to subvert and harness collective, psychic energy from.

      Perhaps. Maybe even likely but we do not have the capacity or the information to intelligently and convincingly provide an explanation for an alternative.

      Tl;dr- we don't know. We won't ever know. We can't know.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is a falacy of unfalsifiability. Its so old, that you can't interview anyone who was at the resurrection or the flood. Nobody is alive to validate or invalidate the claims. However, we know how reality operates from our own direct experiences. We are asked to suspend this basic understanding of the natural world and believe the fantastic claims of the Bible. If anybody living asked of me the same thing, it would be assumed by most people to be an obvious con. People hold a different standard for the Bible, because people are sentimental about it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Now, holding this mentality of yours, let's just say you were given undeniable proof that the claims of the Bible were true. How would you approach the situation?

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    God took their debt so they could never use their debt and usury to pay for their sins. A debtors only power comes from the debt, by nulling that debt the debtor has no power. This is why karma is a lie, you can never balance the books because God does not accept payment so karma will only lead you to hell.

  20. 2 months ago
    Garrote

    The harmony in nature.
    MANS

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus doesn't forgive shit.
    There's judgement day? Then he doesn't forgive .

    And this kind of cognitive dissonance ought to fool us

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > be me
    > be god
    > create evil and suffering to puff up my ego
    > reward those egocentric like me with paradise
    >anyone kind and nice has to suffer

    remind me why god is the good guy again
    and im not some satan worshipping homosexual
    all worship is cringe

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Suspend the judgement on whether God is good or evil. If there's a system in place defining the game, and you're forced to play it. What purpose does it serve to identify the nature of the person who developed that system you're forced to play within?

      When you play a video game, do you just stand at the starting point forever, questioning the designer's nature?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not exactly what is happening

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        > life is a vide game bro ppl dont suffer
        > dont call a spade a spade bro just beliebe in god

        frick off turboBlack personcattle

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is how the video game goes.
        >Wizard says he's god but he isn't
        >His guild ganks naysayers

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yah, but then you realize the videogame is shadows on a wall. You realize you''ve been chained up in a cave the whole time. The game is a hypnosis.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >You
          You mean "I"?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sure, we are all "I".

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            So now you have the right to collectivize people?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            We all have our own subjective areness. That's what I'm getting at.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            And yet you seek to collectivize a perspective of Plato's cave allegory as an objective claim to Truth on the nature of reality for everyone?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I suppose the bigger question

            We all have our own subjective areness. That's what I'm getting at.

            , is why? How does encouraging people to adopt your subjective opinion help you?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Arguing with Christcucs is worthless. It becomes a game of semantics. I might as well be arguing with a Marxist.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's obviously an objective reality though. Everything isn't purely subjective, as postmodernists claim. IHumanity would be better off not believing in bronze age propaganda that leads to people killing each other and condemning all unadherants as worthy of death. The world would be better not giving any credibility to the genocidal doctrines of the Torah, NT, and Quran. It is not just my subjective view, but is an objective conclusion with a basic, reason based look at history.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dont trip. "Modern people" still find plenty of ways to arrive at breaking the commandment not to kill/murder another person on their own.

            When I was 12 years old, I saw an Asian cat at the nickel arcade shoot another Asian because he was angry that he was getting juggled by Liu Kang on street fighter 3. morons don't need some religious fervor to justify murdering each other in droves. Check out Chi-Congo culture. Those are God fearing Christians murdering each in mass. It's not God fearing Christians running up into schools and murdering 30+ children before being taken down by police either.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Mortal Kombat 3, rather.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Now you're putting words in my mouth. I agree murder is wrong. Plenty of non-Abrahamic cultures agree. Abrahamists break their own commandment though, when they say unbelievers are worthy of death. When the command blasphemers to be beheaded.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No one says that. The official position of essentially every Christian church is one of tolerance. Jesus said let the wheat grow with the chaff, along with a long list of dialogue about not presuming to be the judge, as we (Christians, humans) don't have an accurate measure by which to judge, and remains in his sole province to dispense (after death).

            Where are these Christian death squads?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Christian death squads existed in medieval times when they forced Europeans to convert from their ancestral customs to a israeli cult. They existed in North America, when they forced Native Americans to abandon their ways.

            Matthew 30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

            It says to bind and buen the tares. The unbelievers are the tares. Joan of Arc was deemed chaf when she was set ablaze. You left out the latter part of the verse. First they live among the unbelievers then burn them away at the time of harvest, the coming of messiah. It is fundamentally not a religion of tolerance or peace , anymore than Islam is.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            "Before Abraham was, I AM"

            God = I AM
            Jesus = God's Son
            Son = Father
            Son = I AM
            Jesus = Every prisoner, unhoused person, Son of Man = Ben Adam = Humanity
            YOU ARE I AM

            God's name in Exodus is I AM, Jesus is God's son, the nature of the son is the father, Jesus is in the face of everyone, Jesus is you, You are I AM. This tells me that the savior isn't the arbitrary israeli carpenter who fits the criteria of the israeli messiah but breaks all their rules, it tells me the savior is the consciousness available to every person. That each one of us is God's child and can speak directly to the Source of reality, an infinite mind, the LOGOS, in the inner closet. You are not a wretched sinner, and the people who insist you are are covering their own asses for the worldly evil they committed themselves, or continue to benefit from.

            You are a city on a Hill, and sin is knowing what is good to do and not doing it. Obviously the israelites and their OT are not divinely inspired or morally superior to anyone else if their holiest temple got destroyed twice. Those rules didn't prevent them from doing evil, so JC took it to the literal baseline, even a kid can get it: Do what you would want others to do for you. The only problem is he left it at that.

            Why can't Christians do miracles if the end of Mark 16 says anyone who believes can drink poison and live, be bitten by snakes, heal sick people. If you need faith to move a mountain but NOT ONE SINGLE CHRISTIAN HAS THE FAITH TO HEAL PEOPLE IN 2000 years, that places serious doubt in the existential authority of the church

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I've made the same association with YHWH meaning the great "I AM". A great nexus of beingness. I see these as occulted messages, as if the architects of the Abrahamic nexus are just trying to cover their selves karmically by putting the truth out in the open behind a wall of esoteric metaphor. Anyone who pieces it together is deemed a Luciferian. At the end of the day, its better if its viewed metaphorically, rather than literally.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't have to be.

    Anyhow, what practical benefit by continuing to do what Edomites are described as doing afford you?

    (To clarify, Edomites are described as compulsively leading people away from God and into self-accursedness outside of God's protective covenant as a means to weaken them for conquest)

    There's lots of practical benefits to the beneficial cultural adjustments brought about by Christianity. For example, no one is feeding you to lions after militarily subjugating your people, no one is castrating your orphaned children in aftermath and keeping them as their Ganymede frick toy after they've fed you to a lion. To bring it to a more modern perspective, no one is enslaving you based upon the color of your skin, or denigrating you as a lower class citizen because you're not as white as an albino Scandinavian. I mean the list goes on bro. Even though you're a homo, you're tolerated. You don't have to worry about the neighboring witch doctor eating you to absorb your spiritual powers.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its honestly perfect propaganda that memetically perpetuates itself. Any person who tries to wake people up to the con that is Abrahamic religion, is condemned as a heretic, blasphemer, an Edomite worthy of death.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Moreover, you're not "convincing me" so don't use "you" or "we" when you're speaking for "I".

    That's a rhetorical ploy adopted when one is seeking to persuade another to disregard their position, and psychological align themselves with the rhetorician. Keep your words straight and speak for yourself.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dude, you're just bringing minutia and arguing semantics to try to derail the argument and act like you won.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No. You are. I am speaking for myself. You're the one operating under deceitful guise by stating "you" when you mean "I".

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, you are the believer of the all holy truth. I'm the deceitful heathen. Yes yes yes.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even in South Africa, they don't have Christian death squads. If anything, they're being victimized and murdered by Muslims and heathens.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's Sunday a few weeks before Easter. Don't you have something better to do besides making up shit about Christian death squads and shitting all over the board with moronic rhetoric, that basically amounts to "just be anything but Christian, guys"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mean Venezuela is 99% Christian, and Paul said God chooses our leaders, where is their protective covenant that would stabilize their economy, and why do the Christians of America not take them in as brothers? Some Christians are the loudest and most racist voices against letting them in when our own government is responsible for the destabilization in all of South America. All of this speaks against any divine intervention existing in the world and more like a materialist work of history. But God will save you a parking spot near the front of the mall thank you Jesus Amen Hallelujah

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The sacred heart burned until it consumed itself and then appeared again

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A god or son of god dies for the sins of mankind.
    But somehow, this is not enough, they need your belief, time, money etc.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    In Rev 9:3 you see that anyone who DOESN'T have that seal (everyone except the 144,000) gets tortured for 5 months by scorpion locusts!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm lying that probably doesn't happen

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So "god" did just like a israelite and chickened jesus into the wall

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >For God so loved the world...
    He became as we are so that we may be as He is. The very act of his birth, death, and resurrection in the flesh fundamentally changed reality for His creation. We are no longer two. We are one.
    “And lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.” (Matthew 28:20).

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