So everything is consciousness, everything is alive I get that but do man made objects have their own discrete consciousnesss as those actual objec...

So everything is consciousness, everything is alive I get that but do man made objects have their own discrete consciousness’s as those actual objects? or merely the consciousness of what they are made of eg: a gun has only the consciousness of steel, or a car has the consciousness of its components but it doesn’t have “car consciousness”

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    First off; ask yourself: What allows for the possibility of anything?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Ray Peat

      Consciousness

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Existence itself?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >God digits
      guess its God

      • 3 weeks ago
        Ray Peat

        I think its cuz yer a Black person

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do your cells or organs have a consciousness?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    both cars and guns are actually good examples

    you see, when you get a new car, or a gun, all the pieces are new, they are not "broken in"

    a mechanism is somewhat alive, all the pieces expand and contract, depending on the specific exact moment you are on, the heat of the air, of your hands, quantum fluctuations etc, an infinity of variables

    when something is brand new, the pieces still are just pieces, they have not integrate together, when you use it, you wear it in a very specific way, a unique way

    same as a pair of boots, or jeans, the things gain a "collective consciousness" within its parts and you

    after you use something for a while, it develops it own consciousness beyond the consciousness of the material

    you are alive, you are not dumb, you have seen it I am sure, you have favorite objects, you cannot love something that is not intrinsically alive and /or consciousness

    instead of coming to us with this questions, ask them to yourself, you have the answers

    • 3 weeks ago
      Ray Peat

      Cars qnd guns are like me>=> greater than or equal to

    • 3 weeks ago
      Ray Peat

      Cars qnd guns are like me>=> greater than or equal to

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tools esentially.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Of course everything is consciousness and everything is alive and man made objects have their own discrete consciousness’s as those actual objects and/or merely the consciousness of what they are made of

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Ray Peat

    That pretty much means all you hip gangster wannabe homosexuals have to die https://youtu.be/hJyQ8TvwvEI?si=4-r0WeASFP8mT1Q- and i am here to see it through go quiet or i will get mad

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Ray Peat

    Ill have some of that leminy merits b***h ass while i eat the souls out of the ground

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Ray Peat

    So ironic

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Ray Peat

    What a fricking loser

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Ray Peat

    ?si=1lXn6jJ4wKLapNNA

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    consciousness isn't "creating" anything real, it simply is both the architect and perciever of a dream.
    when you are in a dream and you are no longer looking at a gun in your dream, is also the moment it ceases to exist.

    3d matter can be given the illusion of something real because of the vibration on our meatsack video game controller dream immersion device (nervous system)

    it may sound ridiculous, but i would ask you then, what else can explain the synchronicities? certainly not a true material realm. we are simply in a simulation or a dream. and even when we are stuck in some sort of 3d simulation, that simulation rests within a dream, so it's all a dream emerging from consciousness, nothing outside of consciousness's perception actually exists, even people, even you.
    it goes one step beyond solipsism, there is only one true observer at any given time, that any of us can actually prove, and that means all the character's appearing in your conscious awareness 4d hologram are as fake as you are, and you're as fake as the rest of them.

    so no, the gun doesn't exist, consciousness doesn't create 3d matter, it projects an illusion of 3d matter
    true "awareness" only perceives from one vantage/viewpoint at a time, so in any given second, only one person is "real" for the same reasons you can only watch movies about characters, one storyline at a time. there is only one conscious awareness, and at any given specific point of time, it is viewing reality/experience through one avatar at a time

    source: see, "waves, not particles", "double clit experiment", mushrooms, and ramana maharshi, and you can't prove anyone outside you has true consciousness(rely entirely on evidence you can know, and discard that which you infer, and you already know what it all is)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Ray Peat

      I think u r gay

    • 3 weeks ago
      Ray Peat

      Yea like no disproportionate disrespect to you but i can create a 3-d gun

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        with what, you're holographic hands? and holographic metal? dream hands, dream tools, dream metal, dream gun, true reality

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        reality is that which is experienced, even if that which triggers the experience is just smoke and mirrors. nothing about the experiences we have here are fake, just like in a dream, the emotions, feelings, and experiences are all had by consciousness and that makes them all real, doesn't mean we aren't living in a dream in god's mind, come on now

        • 3 weeks ago
          Ray Peat

          >i cNsmit you you with my power

          Childish toy

        • 3 weeks ago
          Ray Peat

          So trigger reality

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            trigger what? reality? reality triggers experience, reality is a unreal projection of consciousness, all life appears as a dream within god's mind. experiences are real, even if all is fake, so this world isn't fake, it just isn't materialistic in nature.

            it means god is less of a king, and more of an author/storyteller. the core heart of creation is meaning, not matter, stories, not substance

          • 3 weeks ago
            Ray Peat

            Evidence check em

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    iron is like the least spiritual metal

    • 3 weeks ago
      Ray Peat

      Iron is the most spiritual metal my friend and it is close to my heart

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Entirely spiritual universe

      >something is “less” spiritual than something else
      No.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is pee pee conscious? It just wants vjj

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Ray Peat
  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As an aside to all of the philosophy here. I like this tool. If I was a professional I could choose worse than a hi-power.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Ray Peat

    I pulled into town police car

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >everything is alive I get that but do man made objects have their own discrete consciousness’s as those actual objects
    Japan has the concept of 'Tsukumogami'. I think you should look into this OP.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsukumogami

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      medieval japanese believed in all kinds of wacky shit, not necessarily because it was true
      Like they thought you had to dock a cats tail because if you didnt, it would grow a second tail, and with it a hunger for human flesh

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you are conflating consciousness with mind.
    they are not thinking level conscious. they are just conscious.

    just the same way you are conscious in deep sleep.
    consciousness is fully awake, but the rays of light emanating off of it, have nothing to be reflected back on (no senses organs, they are all shut in deep sleep and are completely missing in inanimate objects).

    this consciousness serves another purpose. its an entry point for you to be able to absorb into and merge with it, in order to dominate it (control it), like change its atom structure, make it go up in flames, grow/shrink/multiply it, etc. as it interfaces with your consciousness.

    this is because you are the dominator of the universe and you have the highest vessel, which all the angels of heaven were once asked to prostrate to.
    in fact, the reason why idol worship is forbidden is because you are the highest idol, made of the dust of the earth and having the breath of God in you (meaning, the essence, meaning, you are God, you are the avatar of God).

    regarding your second question, that of parts vs the concept of the thing itself ("car", "gun").
    there are different levels of consciousness. you as an individual human have a consciousness of "human", then all humanity share a collective consciousness, the higher up you go.
    the lower you go, you will realize that each part of your body has its own cosnciousness, for example, your heart beats on its own, your organs function on their own (they are patterning against the archetype which is deeply embedded in the subconsciousness, which itself is patterning after the primordial archetype in the superconscious or collective conscious, or what Plato called the plane of ideas etc.)

    think of a fractal.
    its self repeating down to the tiniest parts and it is self-similar, thus "as above, so below": the laws that govern the tiniest scale, also govern the biggest scale and vice versa.
    thats why you can glimpse dynamics from nature and all around you.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the lower you go, you will realize that each part of your body has its own cosnciousness, for example, your heart beats on its own, your organs function on their own (they are patterning against the archetype which is deeply embedded in the subconsciousness, which itself is patterning after the primordial archetype in the superconscious or collective conscious, or what Plato called the plane of ideas etc.)

      regarding that, you should look into "morphic resonance" theory!
      there is a "database" of sorts that categorizes blueprints accross multiple levels, which is what you form after.
      the physical "manifestation" is you filling out that blueprint in the higher domains.
      and physical manifestation is an ongoing process. your nails keep growing, every single cell in your body is continually renewing itself. its patterning itself against the morphic image of what constitutes "you".. that then patterns itself to the blueprint for your race (caucasoid, Black, mongoloid).. and these 3 are patterning themselves to the blueprint "avatar of God".
      all things can be traced back to one thing.

      and you are not just part of God. when you take a fractal, any snapshot of the fractal is not "part" of the fractal, but the full fractal itself, as the full picture is contained within its part.
      thus you are not just part of God, you are FULLY God allmighty.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I named my SUV Itzpapalotl, or Izzy for short. My SUV has been loyal to me for ten years now and 120,000 miles.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think objects can have something conscious associated with them. This is especially true of named and/or imbued with energy. Think talismans, sigils, cursed objects.

    In the Samurai tradition, there's lots of rules around the katana sword. I've heard or read that they say once a sword has tasted blood, it wants more.

    There's also religious, war and cultural relics plus family heirlooms. All of these are considered to pass along the energy associated with former holders of the objects or somehow effected by them.

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