>"she deserved it because she tortured people in a past life"

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do not look up kids with butterfly syndrome

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hurr durr they flayed prisoners alive in the 14th century and now have to bleed and blister 24/7

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        israeli covens claim this to have human cattle

        israeli covens did this 200 years ago

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      thats conceptually really cool but it just makes you look diseased

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >feral
      >never lived outside

      not as bad as you made it sound

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Papa and seed all very bed okee

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not a matter of deserving something or not. Karma is a wheel of fortune. There is a cause and effect to everything but I don't see it as moral. Bad things can happen and do happen to good people.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Karma doesn't exist bc there's no cause to anything
      The existence is causeless
      cope low iq Black folk

      Karma isn't about what you deserve, it's just the effects of your past actions coming to fruition.

      unironically, yes
      >Black folk can't comprehend the passing of time
      >Black person commits crime
      >"dindu nuffin"
      >Black person literally doesn't see his present self as the same individual who commited the crime 5 minutes ago
      karma's a b***h, it's just a matter of how your mind perceives time

      >"she deserved it because she tortured people in a past life"
      i can think of a few instances where this happened more or less. some stuff with people i know / their current life.
      1: shot people in WW2, that counts as murder because sentient/souled people should never be harmed under ANY circumstances. "the lizards in charge told me to do it" is no excuse. punishment: forfeit a life (die in childhood, was murdered by tweaker), next life suffer at the hands of the evil ones.
      2: groomed & molested a child, had disgusting sense of ownership over UNRELATED child, believed people are property. vehemently refuse to acknowledge wrongdoing in any way. was also a troony.
      punishment: get violated by trannies the day before pride parade in their city. anus destroyed, sentenced to 25y in adult diapers from age 13ish or smth. troons continue to harass & disrespect subject.

      Sometimes it's not actually about the individual in question. Karma operates in several cycles of different scales, and people can get caught in something greater than them. You will understand better when you realize that there really is no individual self after all. It's a misconception that reincarnation means you have a particular soul that is passed on down a line. "I" resides in ALL beings.

      https://i.imgur.com/dXu4mwP.jpg

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is only the case in Buddhism. Traditions like Advaita Vedanta Hinduism, Dvaita Vedanta Hinduism for example believe there is steer or guide to karma. The the belief in tamasic atman's for example holds that some souls are kinda screwed from the get go.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It would be happenstance for a punished soul to seek an opportunity for redemption before their end of the life cycle.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In Vishishtadvaita Vedanta, yeah that could be. Not Dvaita or Advaita Vedanta though. Nyaya would as well. Those two are pretty strongly determinist. Buddhists would state that there is always a chance to transform your karma by diluting it with positive mental qualities or doing good things.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dunno about Advaita, but Dvaita Vedanta would have grace and mercy intervene in determinism for such a case.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >she deserved it because God cant fix something the first human did

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Her deserving it is the fix. Fricking 100 IQ over here.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >God can only fix things through creating new people and putting them in torturous positions
        Is this REALLY how you think of your God?
        If you want to say he could do it some other way - why didnt he?
        Original sin can only conclude that God is limited in his ability, or is incompetent, or is truly sadistic.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Unless you consider humans as a whole to be like one of gods friends he had high hopes for, who ended up making a bad decision and hanging out with a bad crowd. Sure he could spontaneously yank us out of the environment we created for ourselves, but then we would be the same as when we fell in the first place. The way we could be is so much better than how we are. Imagine how repulsive our behavior is to a diety, we're lucky we don't have it worse.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So God *is* malicious and hateful of humanity?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Karma isn't about what you deserve, it's just the effects of your past actions coming to fruition.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >feral child

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      LITTLE GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRL

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I read about her case and it legit changed the way I view the world. I used to have a very naive popscibrained materialist worldview where good and evil are just emergent from our chemistry and evolutionary biology, but after hearing about her I realized for the first time that Evil exists as a primary metaphysical category of the universe.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who is she?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Her name is Genie, she was born in California, in 1957. She suffered severe abuse and neglect in childhood, mainly due to her father, was an extreme control freak, who had an oversensitivity to noise, who beat and abused the whole family, including his wife, and also Genie's brother as well.

        He kept Genie, locked in her bedroom, and usually restrained for long periods of time, sometimes only communicating with her in growls, as he bizarrely sometimes pretended to be a dog, around her.

        Her abuse lasted until the age of 13, when she was rescued after her mother had a violent argument with her husband, about her having contact with her own parents, and eventually he allowed her to leave the house.

        A few weeks later, she took Genie with her to a nearby town to apply for disability benefits. She went into the wrong office though, and was met by a social worker, who immediately noticed Genies state, and recognised that abuse had taken place, and contacted the police, who arrested her parents and made Genie a ward of the state.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_(feral_child)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Her mother suffered an accident in childhood, which caused her to have neurological damage, and she suffered from vision problems as a result, so that meant she was also dependent on Genie's father as well, but after she was allowed to leave the house, she went to a nearby town to apply for benefits, and took Genie with her, and that's when Genie was rescued.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They still treated the mother like she did no wrong, even when she clearly started isolating her the same way her father did.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Genie's mother had neurological damage, and also suffered from vision problems, so they possibly knew that she had been restricted in what she could have done, when the abuse was taking place.

            She also suffered abuse from her husband as well, so she was possibly viewed as being a victim as well.

            Even, if she did start isolating Genie to an extent, it was still nowhere near as extreme, as Genie's father had done.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anyway, it wasn't really a case of Genie being isolated by her mother. It was more of an attempt by Genie's mother to try to protect her from further scrutiny by the scientific community, as her case had attracted a lot of interest from them.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anyway, it wasn't really a case of Genie being isolated by her mother. It was more of an attempt by Genie's mother to try to protect her from further scrutiny by the scientific community, as her case had attracted a lot of interest from them.

            The west is the only part of the world that would view a mother as being a bigger victim than the child she neglected and abused. It's like you want to find some thin way of saying Genie deserved her treatment. If this case happened today, courts would not blindly forgive the mother, let alone consider her stable enough to be a guardian

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I doubt you can comprehend this, but your low IQ is on display. You're clearly lacking in HOC.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Black person you watched shrouded hand, fricking normie. This thread came from a YouTube vid, b***h ass pussy

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Chase yourself, clownface.

            I don't even know what Shrouded Hand is, far less watched it. I got the information from Wikipedia. I'm not into online games, and don't watch much TV either.

            You seem more like a normie than anyone else. Get out of your basement, and go and get some fresh air for a change.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why does god do these things to himself?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            God doesn't do anything to himself. Humans do it to each other, as many are in a fallen state, separated from God.

            A lot of humans just have to do all they can to redeem themselves with God. If they don't, then they just remain in the fallen state.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >separated from God.
            impossible

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Genie Wiley was born in 1957 and at 20 months her father Clark Wiley took her into his care keeping her from her partially blind mother and 6-year-old brother. Clark thought she was mentally disabled and locked her in a room with windows covered by aluminum foil and provided only food and water. With no human interaction or contact with the outside world, Genie spoke rarely and could only make unintelligible sounds when she was discovered. Clark Wiley beat his daughter with a one-by-three-foot board nearly every time she uttered a sound. Genie was also strapped to a child’s toilet chair and a crib with a chicken wire lid for multiple hours.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          when I was a kid I was pretty severely neglected and I also developed a crooked smile like she had. I wonder if there is a relationship? almost like one half of the mental faculties atrophy, so the expressiveness is only found on one half of the face. for example maybe the left brain being atrophied causes one half of the face to lack expressiveness.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the behavior of certain people convinced me that it isn't the behaviors of certain people that are bad
      The only way this makes sense is if you are saying you know this capability is also in you to the same amount it was in the father.
      Is that what you are saying?
      Because I wholly reject that, there is nothing in me capable of what that father did. That evil entirely emerged from their behavior.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Evil doesn't exist. There are just things that you personally don't like.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Of course evil exists, in the same way yummy and yucky exist.
          You are agreeing with me when I reject the claim that evil is some primary category in the universe.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The opposite, I am saying that before I thought of evil existing only as a composite abstraction over material forces, but somewhat less real because it's explainable through science. Because I could have never even imagined something this evil happening in MY world.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >there is nothing in me capable of
        Dangerous spiritual territory. The potential for evil exists in every human heart. Believing you're an exception is just foolish pride. Any man who thinks he's above wickedness has never been truly tested.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Would smash

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i would fix her

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm gonna talk out of my ass about something I don't understand because I'm mad and I'm going to blame God.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >repeat after me
    HARE KRSNA HARE KRSNA
    KRSNA KRSNA HARE HARE
    HARE RAMA HARE RAMA
    RAMA RAMA HARE HARE
    >spend your life in godhead even if you suffer
    >never turn away from godhead
    >our trials here are a mere drop of water in
    >the oceans of eternity

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks anon, im gonna do just that. Wtf else can a fker even do in this clown world.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so if someone brutally raped you, you would just accept it?

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    she actually lives a pretty carefree life at this point. probably an easier life than most executives and she lacks the higher faculties to much care what happened in her childhood. so if you look at it in that way it's not that bad. almost a natural adaptation.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The hedonic treadmill, also known as hedonic adaptation, is the observed tendency of humans to quickly return to a relatively stable level of happiness despite major positive or negative events or life changes.[1]
      >According to this theory, as a person makes more money, expectations and desires rise in tandem, which results in no permanent gain in happiness. Philip Brickman and Donald T. Campbell coined the term in their essay "Hedonic Relativism and Planning the Good Society" (1971).[2] The hedonic treadmill viewpoint suggests that wealth does not increase the level of happiness.[3]

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Pol

    unironically, yes
    >Black folk can't comprehend the passing of time
    >Black person commits crime
    >"dindu nuffin"
    >Black person literally doesn't see his present self as the same individual who commited the crime 5 minutes ago
    karma's a b***h, it's just a matter of how your mind perceives time

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"she deserved it because she tortured people in a past life"
    i can think of a few instances where this happened more or less. some stuff with people i know / their current life.
    1: shot people in WW2, that counts as murder because sentient/souled people should never be harmed under ANY circumstances. "the lizards in charge told me to do it" is no excuse. punishment: forfeit a life (die in childhood, was murdered by tweaker), next life suffer at the hands of the evil ones.
    2: groomed & molested a child, had disgusting sense of ownership over UNRELATED child, believed people are property. vehemently refuse to acknowledge wrongdoing in any way. was also a troony.
    punishment: get violated by trannies the day before pride parade in their city. anus destroyed, sentenced to 25y in adult diapers from age 13ish or smth. troons continue to harass & disrespect subject.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >1: shot people in WW2, that counts as murder because sentient/souled people should never be harmed under ANY circumstances. "the lizards in charge told me to do it" is no excuse. punishment: forfeit a life (die in childhood, was murdered by tweaker), next life suffer at the hands of the evil ones.
      What kind of poo gay shit of this and most importantly, why it's taken seriously?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >2: groomed & molested a child, had disgusting sense of ownership over UNRELATED child, believed people are property. vehemently refuse to acknowledge wrongdoing in any way. was also a troony.
      punishment: get violated by trannies the day before pride parade in their city. anus destroyed, sentenced to 25y in adult diapers from age 13ish or smth. troons continue to harass & disrespect subject.
      Immaculate bait, anon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      jesus can you be anymore of a fricking redditor

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the esoteric significance of her name being "genie"?

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She wasn't forced to reincarnate. All challenges come with desirable learning, immortals beings don't mind suffering for lifetimes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Pol

      Agree on everything except the first part

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Would be hateful to force anyone exist.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Pol

          Yeah the Demiurge would do that

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            demiurge is no different from god, you just disagree with god

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            Wrong, the Demiurge is Satan.
            The material realm is Hell, Samsara.
            The One True God, the Unknown God for the ancient greeks is something completely different. Jesus was teaching Buddhism and Neoplatonism (gnosticism). His Father wasn't the god of the OT, that's the god of the israelites.
            "Truth shall set you free"

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i just fundamentally disagree, this world is not hell, it's a genius creation with amazing art and music and nature, much suffering yes, but that's part of it and in the end we always return to bliss anyway, so we choose to come here temporarily

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            “If there is beauty, there must be ugliness;
            If there is right, there must be wrong.
            Wisdom and ignorance are complementary,
            And illusion and enlightenment cannot be separated.
            This is an old truth, don't think it was discovered recently.
            "I want this, I want that"
            Is nothing but foolishness.
            I'll tell you a secret -
            "All things are impermanent!”
            ― Ryokan

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you deny life, i affirm it, simply two opposing perspectives

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            I don't deny it, I only say we are trapped in an illusion of perception

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >this world is not hell, it's a genius creation
            That would depend on your perspective, wouldn't it. Think of the labor and living conditions going into the technology we are communicating with. From rare earth mine to store shelves. This world very much seems to damage spirits. The reincarnation wheel could be broken, even if it is, what percentage of people are slaves or near slaves.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you have a childish notion of hell.. if hell was literally hollywood style fiery torment, then who would incarnate their willingly.

            real hell is sensual blue balling: whatever you do, you will never reach 100% satisfaction and fulfillment.
            this is the true definition of hell. there is this low grade, permanent pain in the background, always. this is dukkha

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Your image is incorrect, St. Valentine is not Valentinus

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            Anon... do better, be better
            https://pouke.org/forums/topic/24419-the-gnostic-origins-of-valentines-day/
            https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justin-taylor/how-did-valentines-day-begin/
            Keep in mind there was a time when gnostics were persecuted almost to extinction

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You really need to proofread your statements and make more effective memes before posting on the internet, as well as make more qualifying nuanced statements to insulate your point from being immediately belittled and dismissed by wilful contrarians.

            Everything you said is 100% true but you do immense disservice to said truth when you present it like a bumbling dumbfrick moron.

            You need to always be prepared for the immediate backlash to your statements when presenting your ideas, and have counterarguments prepared or at least present a solid foundation upon which your argument can stand and old its own weight.

            Tl;dr you sound moronic and your shits all fricked up. Get it right and speak coherently.

            BTW edit that meme so it just says "was gnostic" and not "was a gnostic", people will wilfully pretend to misinterpret it as saying "agnostic" and derail your point even further.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            >You need to always be prepared for the immediate backlash to your statements when presenting your ideas, and have counterarguments prepared or at least present a solid foundation upon which your argument can stand and old its own weight
            So exactly what I've done all the time ITT?
            >old its own weight
            >You really need to proofread
            kek ok
            tl;dr leddit spacing, opinion discarded t(-.-t)
            BTW if you can't differentiate "a gnostic" from "agnostic" that's a you problem, if you try to derail by pretending to be moronic, then you are moronic and it only favors my point

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >leddit spacing

            Isn't a thing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            Forgot your 2nd paragraph... at least you agree what I said is true
            90% of the population is moronic. Choose 1:
            >Speak their language
            >Speak to myself and another 4 based INTP gnostic geniuses
            Also I don't like to sound like a pedantic sesquipedalian, you should learn to value ideas only for what they are worth and not for how they are presented, nor for where they come from.
            Would you rather follow a grandiloquent moron or a bumbling wizard?
            Oh and english isn't even my native tongue

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Samsara is the 6 realms including heaven anon.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            Samsara is the cycle of life-death-rebirth in the material realms (Kenoma) - 'Heaven' is Nirvana (Pleroma)

            https://meditationmarathon.me/blogs/wisdom/exploring-the-six-realms-of-existence-in-buddhism-a-guide-to-understanding-samsara-1

            https://www.buddhisma2z.com/content.php?id=169

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That idea subscribes to dualism, meaning that God is impotent or unloving hence evil can exist.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Does anyone have part 2?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            There is no part 2
            <-But I got this

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol
          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            You seem to keep talking about God like a sky daddy, which is infantile imho. The One True God is more of a concept, are maths impotent? is logic unloving?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            One absolute is all that is.
            >The One True God is more of a concept
            For you for now, unity of all can be experienced and realized.
            No amount of human logic will reveal the truth but it's good to know what your views imply, duality is very nasty.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >are maths impotent?
            Yes. Math has no potency in itself, people use math and thereby give it utility.
            >is logic unloving?
            Yes. If these are your examples of God, then you have an impotent, unloving God.
            Which I suppose is better than most Christians that conclude God is sadistic.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nta, maybe you guys should define what love is, to begin with

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            Yes, God can't act, He simply IS there, eternal and immutable, hiding behind onthological questions as the only possible answer since our perception is flawed and limited

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What you are describing is not god.
            People like to think of God as some thing or energy because a thing or energy is exploitable.
            A resource you can exploit.
            It is quite literally the attitude of Satan.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            OK so what is God then?

            If you cant say it yourself, you dont believe it yourself and I wont bother with it.

            I just don't feel like typing another wall of text, I want to sleep

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well since you expect people to read walls of text due to laziness, here - this will answer your question.
            You should read it all for it to make sense.
            https://archive.org/details/brahmasamhita/mode/2up

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            Very poor reading comprehension skill
            I said it's an abstract concept like numbers, love or success
            This has nothing to do with "some thing or energy or resource you can exploit"
            But yes that's what the morons who follow mainstream religion deities seem to believe, a skydaddy superisraelite who grants you wishes if you sacrifice enough children to him. Satanic and primitive indeed, but that would be the Demiurge... or God, I don't give a frick how you want to call it it's not like it doesn't have 1000 names already
            But that's not what gnostics believe in, hence the distinction, because the Bible calls both "God"
            The Torahnic (tyrannic?) God from the OT Master of the israelites vs the Father of Jesus Christ, he talked about God in terms that his acolytes could accept and understand but he was actually teaching about neoplatonism and buddhism aka gnosticism

            Well since you expect people to read walls of text due to laziness, here - this will answer your question.
            You should read it all for it to make sense.
            https://archive.org/details/brahmasamhita/mode/2up

            I provided an answer that you deemed too long and you had the audacity to call me lazy lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I said it's an abstract concept like numbers, love or success
            And that is wrong. All of those are things you do not have to consider, they are useful as tools of communication and nothing more.
            That is not God.
            You want to remove the fact that God is a PErson, the SUpreme Person, because you must engage and deal with a person.
            With "abstract" you can pretend to be the one in control, which is exactly what Satan thought, which is exactly why you are here.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            >God is superisraelite in the skies
            No.
            It's okay, not everyone is equipped with the tools necessary for abstract thinking
            See

            https://i.imgur.com/gc8p6GS.jpg

            >midwit can't comprehend synthesis
            https://evolutionnews.org/2022/04/at-the-bottom-of-the-glass-god-is-waiting/

            https://www.wondersofphysics.com/2019/11/list-of-famous-theists-in-physics.html
            Notice how there's no article about famous gnostics in physics
            gnostic ≠ theist

            A lot of famous 20th century metaphysicians had a background in engineering (specifically electrical engineering), believe it or not and all scientists of old were alchemists, to various degrees. some of them were able to penetrate into higher mental planes of reality (aka "kingdom of heaven", jhana, samadhi), coming back with a great jump in wisdom and catapulting humanity forward by a great margin.

            I have come to understand that approximately 80% or so of any given people (that is, white Europeans) are what would be classically referred to as “hylics”. That is, while they are technically sentient and self aware humans, they are extremely rudimentary in this level of sentience/self awareness. They’re basically at the level of a very smart animal like a crow or dolphin but with the ability to vocalize and communicate with human speech. But the key factor they all share is that they are literally unable/incapable of analyzing things from an objective, internal perspective. They cannot ask questions about something. The idea of something making internal “sense” is a confusing concept to them. Quite literally, all logic, rationality, and idea of “sense” in the world is defined by external figures of authority and information telling them something in an authoritative or matter of fact tone, and them then just believing this and defending it to the death for the rest of their entire life while never actually understanding it beyond just knowing “hey that’s what the screen said” or “that’s what the man on the TV said” and why wouldn’t that be the obvious complete reality?

            You probably fricked up in your previous iteration too
            Keep pulling stuff out of your ass dude, I never said I pretend to be the one in control, quite the opposite
            Your God the Demiurge is Satan, even your religious higher-ups are fully aware of this fact, but they want you believing in superisraelite daddy just like they want you to believe in your nanny-state, so they hide knowledge from you or/and outright lie to you
            That's what the Devil would do

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >person = israelite
            No. It's okay, the entire reason we are here is to work out this desire to exploit God.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            kek good point
            it's the god of the israelites though
            the desire to exploit god, to outsmart it and eventually "become" god is a 100% israeli thing and they have infected the world with this materialistic mentality

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it's the god of the israelites though
            No, there is only Paramesvara. God is not "of" anyone. We are all of God.
            >the desire to exploit god, to outsmart it and eventually "become" god is a 100% israeli thing
            And that is what you present when you insist God has no Personhood.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            I was talking about the abrahamic demiurge dude, can't you fricking read?
            Parameshvara is the ultimate and highest reality that eternally pervades all matter for Hindus. He is regarded by devotees to be totality itself, controlling the triple forces of creation, preservation, and destruction.
            >He still thinks it's a person, only because it's presented to simple minds (majority of population worldwide) as one
            It's the fundamental difference between deism and theism, you can't explain abstract concepts to brainlets so you use these mythologies to make them more digestible
            What's funny is that Parameshvara's definition is pretty much the same gnostics believe about Deus/Monad
            Thing is, you need to give it human shape so you can "comprehend" and relate to it, I don't

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I was talking about the abrahamic demiurge dude, can't you fricking read?
            Then you admit you arent talking about God, which I was.
            >you need to give it human shape
            No one mentioned shape.
            You deny PERSONHOOD because you want to exploit God.
            Like you said - you are being israeli.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            >claims to know for sure that personhood is a necessary caracteristic of God
            All that cow pee/poo has rotted your brain, man

            https://philarchive.org/archive/HOWJHO

            https://pure.manchester.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/215810500/04_Zarepour.pdf

            Here, I'm not wasting more time debating the shit you keep making up. Good luck with that schizophrenia

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >necessary
            More israelite tactic, no one said necessary. I said you deny it to exploit God. There is nothing "necessary" for God.
            Nor is anything denied.
            The personal includes the impersonal.
            The impersonal does not include the personal.
            You insist on the impersonal to deny personhood.
            You do so because of the israelite desire to exploit.
            You can leave any time you like.
            You cannot and have not denied these, and all you can do is show more of your assumptions and erroneous hatreds.
            Since you want to bring up race, let's see your nose.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            >replies without reading
            Too much for your poor little brain, I see.
            You are the only one here using israelite tactics. I don't deny it, I only say that we can't know and we won't know and that you're a schizo. You are calling me a satanic israelite just because I don't think God has to be a PErson

            >I said it's an abstract concept like numbers, love or success
            And that is wrong. All of those are things you do not have to consider, they are useful as tools of communication and nothing more.
            That is not God.
            You want to remove the fact that God is a PErson, the SUpreme Person, because you must engage and deal with a person.
            With "abstract" you can pretend to be the one in control, which is exactly what Satan thought, which is exactly why you are here.

            You keep accusing me of wanting to exploit God, which I denied but you're too stupid to retain that. Also mixing when I refer to the Monad (gnostic god) and the Demiurge/Satan.

            The personal doesn't include the impersonal.
            The impersonal doesn't include the personal.
            Personal and impersonal are direct opposites.
            I guess you're not very good at english, im- means "in, upon". But in this case im- is used instead of in-, meaning "not" because personal starts with P.

            You're a perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect, you're only embarrasing yourself, stop.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The beginning is wrong and anything built upon it is wrong, no need to go further than that.
            you kleep denying what is blatant from your attempt to deny God personhood, and then utilize this primal conception to your own benefit.
            >The personal doesn't include the impersonal.
            Incorrect. Everyone can observe in their situation that they are a person, and that personhood incorporates impersonal aspects.
            Once again you are wrong from the very beginning and the rest can be discarded.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            If you insist on being a moron, sure.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Picrel is just cope and enabling ignorance, How do you figure who's in the wrong?

            In before
            >I agree

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            Well, the jeet I was replying to is a willful ignorant, there's not much one can do to cure such people

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            >it's the god of the israelites though
            No, there is only Paramesvara. God is not "of" anyone. We are all of God.
            >the desire to exploit god, to outsmart it and eventually "become" god is a 100% israeli thing
            And that is what you present when you insist God has no Personhood.

            oh btw you can always tell when a religion or spiritual doctrine has been subverted and turned into marvel tier bullshit when they begin to focus on mythos rather than spiritualty
            >picrel is you

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Your attempt to deny personhood IS spirituality.
            That israelite mentality you named and exhibit is the basis for all metaphysical questions and conundrums.
            That you cant see this only shows how myopic your satanic drive has made you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Latinos like cardi b do this and nobody bats an eye, this shit appears in Santeria because they practice the old testament

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lol, imaginr living in the information age and still believing in a personal God instead of knowing the non-dual truths and impersonality of God.
            sad.
            you should feel extremely ashamed!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Impersonal conception limits the concept of the infinite and is done due to an unconscious desire to exploit and use the impersonal.
            In short - you like to think of God as not a person because you want to use the energy of God for yourself.
            You will remain in samsara until you remove this literally satanic desire.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            "Impersonal is personal. God is a person. You want to rape God's energy. You are satanic saar"
            You sound like this.

            >Heisenberg never said it.
            prove it

            Notice how he never tried arguing about the quote itself, because he doesn't have any valid arguments against it so he resorts to "fake quote". That's the midwit homosexual test which he failed hard.

            >waves around at complete lack of any reason to claim he said it
            Now go ahead and offer any evidence toward your claim. Unless you can counter my support, my point stands.

            He offered evidence and so did I, you are the one here who simply states "he didn't say that". Cope.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Impersonal is personal.
            I dont sound like this at all because I never said anything like it.
            >God is a person.
            >You want to rape God's energy.
            I sound like this because I said it, and its true.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            >I never said anything like it.
            Except you did, on almost every post you wrote, in a dazzling display of circular logic.

            >never tried arguing about the quote itself
            You mean the message? Why would I argue that? That is completely irrelevant.
            If I say that Heisenberg said you are a massive homosexual and should be gassed like a israelite, it is completely true, but Heisenberg never said it.
            >He offered evidence and so did I
            No - you admitted right at the beginning its a fake quote and gave lots of excuses as to why you lie about that.

            There's nothing that indicates Heisenberg ever thought about me at all. That's the difference.
            I admited it's fake by your standards. This doesn't make it fake, it only makes you a moron.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I admited it's fake by your standards.
            Those standards being
            >is there evidence he wrote it?
            >is there evidence he said it?
            And the answer to both of these - as you admitted twice now - is no.
            Fake quote. Stop being stupid.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            See

            holy shit you're fricking moronic
            let's look at this rationally

            evidence that Heisenberg said it:
            >a contemporary of Heisenberg claimed that he said it
            >it is perfectly in line with Heisenberg's belief system
            evidence that Heisenberg didn't say it:
            >a random dipshit on EerieWeb decades later claims it's a fake quote
            >side note: this dipshit anon claimed that Heisenberg wasn't a theist when in fact he was a practicing Christian, so we know this anon has no idea what the frick he's talking about

            Stop being stupid.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Except you did, on almost every post you wrote
            The answer to my standards is still no.
            No evidence of writing it
            No evidence of saying it.
            And now, with people doubling down on colleague - that ALSO has no evidence.
            Convenient.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Carl Friedrich von Weizsäcker, Heisenberg's protege, wrote the exact quote himself, referring to it as "an old adage" and never once saying that Heisenberg said it or wrote it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            Learn to read posts fricking idiot

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Carl Friedrich von Weizsäcker, Heisenberg's protege, wrote the exact quote himself, referring to it as "an old adage" and never once saying that Heisenberg said it or wrote it.

            I'd say stop being stupid but you dont seem capable.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            You have no proof either. We are closer to the truth though since all you want is to discredit the quote entirely by questioning its source while never arguing about the message, like a total homosexual israelite.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You have no proof either.
            Proof of him NOT saying or writing something?
            Every moment there is lack of support for the opposite strengthens my claim.
            More likely you deliberately ask for what you know is impossible - proof of a negative - because you know there is nothing whatsoever to point to Heisenberg saying it.
            >discredit the quote entirely by questioning its source
            I dont, though. This is a lie.
            I said the message is irrelevant, and personally I bnelieve it.
            The claim is that Heisenberg never said it.
            You say he did.
            You have no proof he wrote it.
            You have no proof he said it.
            You have a completely different person saying it.
            You have given ZERO proof that different person indicated Heisenberg said it or wrote it.

            If it was about the message, you would simply quote the other person.
            It isnt about the message, it's about who is saying it.
            And you are lying about who said it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Except you did, on almost every post you wrote
            Not once have I said this, liar. To say the personal INCLUDES the impersonal is not to equate them at all.
            You are saying god is a tire. I am saying no, god is a car which includes tires.
            You have now taken this to mean cars are tires, because you are moronic.
            The Absolute Truth as Person includes Absolute Truth as Impersonal because it is a greater, more intricate conception.
            This is not equating them. this is explicitly saying Impersonal is lesser, which is why you prefer it.
            You want god to be impersonal, so you can be the person whom includes it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            I already explained to you why the personal doesn't include the impersonal but are opposites. I didn't mean to equate both, I meant you say God is both personal and impersonal since one thing includes the other from your fricked up point of view.
            Btw your shits all moronic because trying to exploit God is exactly what theists do when they pray FOR something.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the personal doesn't include the impersonal but are opposites
            Not true. I am a person. There are many parts that make up me that are not persons. Everyone can by their very situation see that what you are saying is wrong.
            > I didn't mean to equate both
            You are either very ignorant of what equating means, or you are being dishonest about what you said.
            Good thing we can quote you directly.
            You explicitly claimed "what I sound like" is equating the two

            https://i.imgur.com/dvsRPG6.jpg

            "Impersonal is personal. God is a person. You want to rape God's energy. You are satanic saar"
            You sound like this.
            [...]
            Notice how he never tried arguing about the quote itself, because he doesn't have any valid arguments against it so he resorts to "fake quote". That's the midwit homosexual test which he failed hard.
            [...]
            He offered evidence and so did I, you are the one here who simply states "he didn't say that". Cope.

            >"Impersonal is personal.

            >trying to exploit God is exactly what theists do when they pray FOR something
            Yes.
            EVERYONE here in samsara is here because we wanted to try and exploit the energy of God.
            Glad you are finally figuring this out.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            Yes, I was making fun of you. It wasn't meant to be taken literally. I also said "you want to rape God" and you agreed so wtf is your problem?
            Thing is you believe God is a person and that's moronic, but to be fair you also believe in the holiness of cow's shit.
            >EVERYONE
            Sounds like a lot of projection. I told you, I'm the opposite of wanting to exploit God. Some people keep coming here after being enlightened just to help others break free.
            A pneumatic reaches Nirvana when he decides to give 0 fricks about the morons trapped here unable to leave by their own means.

            >You have no proof either.
            Proof of him NOT saying or writing something?
            Every moment there is lack of support for the opposite strengthens my claim.
            More likely you deliberately ask for what you know is impossible - proof of a negative - because you know there is nothing whatsoever to point to Heisenberg saying it.
            >discredit the quote entirely by questioning its source
            I dont, though. This is a lie.
            I said the message is irrelevant, and personally I bnelieve it.
            The claim is that Heisenberg never said it.
            You say he did.
            You have no proof he wrote it.
            You have no proof he said it.
            You have a completely different person saying it.
            You have given ZERO proof that different person indicated Heisenberg said it or wrote it.

            If it was about the message, you would simply quote the other person.
            It isnt about the message, it's about who is saying it.
            And you are lying about who said it.

            >you deliberately ask for what you know is impossible
            Exactly what you were doing. Another projector.
            If you don't like the pic you are free to change it and use Carl's face and name.
            I personally love to use "fake" quotes like this because it's a great way to expose morons who go on a crusade about the source.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            >You have no proof either.
            Proof of him NOT saying or writing something?
            Every moment there is lack of support for the opposite strengthens my claim.
            More likely you deliberately ask for what you know is impossible - proof of a negative - because you know there is nothing whatsoever to point to Heisenberg saying it.
            >discredit the quote entirely by questioning its source
            I dont, though. This is a lie.
            I said the message is irrelevant, and personally I bnelieve it.
            The claim is that Heisenberg never said it.
            You say he did.
            You have no proof he wrote it.
            You have no proof he said it.
            You have a completely different person saying it.
            You have given ZERO proof that different person indicated Heisenberg said it or wrote it.

            If it was about the message, you would simply quote the other person.
            It isnt about the message, it's about who is saying it.
            And you are lying about who said it.

            >pics like this
            I meant 'these'. Heisenberg and Dostoievski.
            Have another one.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Jataka texts aren't even canon, they're like Buddhist fanfiction (Oh what a surprise, a /misc/tard being deliberately deceptive)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            Triggered much? lmfao it never fails, some turbomoron ALWAYS has to take the bait

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They are part of the canon but it is about the causal stage of the Buddha, aka the process of becoming one. In this way, they are also stories about not what to do. Further, not all the Jatakas include statements from the Buddha but from other people. Often doing stupid things.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >never tried arguing about the quote itself
            You mean the message? Why would I argue that? That is completely irrelevant.
            If I say that Heisenberg said you are a massive homosexual and should be gassed like a israelite, it is completely true, but Heisenberg never said it.
            >He offered evidence and so did I
            No - you admitted right at the beginning its a fake quote and gave lots of excuses as to why you lie about that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's a fake quote and Heisenberg was not a theist. Please stop being dumb.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not fake tho. The wisest of this planet end up seeing God no matter the perspective.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Then post the source of the quote.

            >The wisest of this planet end up seeing God no matter the perspective.
            This is also wrong. Religiosity is negatively proportional to intelligence.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Truth of God doesn't need to be religious and it sort of can't be, seeing what fricked up religions we have. Seeing God can be a fact not belief.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This does nothing to challenge that
            1. this is a fake quote (or defend you saying it is real)
            2. Heisenberg was not a theist
            3. Religiosity is negatively proportional to intelligence (or validate your claim that the wisest end up seeing god)

            I'm not here to discourage you or invalidate your views just to point out that those claims you made about Heisenberg are untrue.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            go back
            here we value ideas for what they are worth on their own, not for who said them

            Well since you expect people to read walls of text due to laziness, here - this will answer your question.
            You should read it all for it to make sense.
            https://archive.org/details/brahmasamhita/mode/2up

            saved, you should read my link too

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Then why use Heisenberg's name in the image you dishonest coward?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            because frick you, that's why

            >Time isn't real. It's our creation. The Universe is made of waves, which all travel at the speed of light and don't experience time.
            This is not true. Quantum field theory requires a chronological relation between quantum particles.

            https://www.forbes.com/sites/briankoberlein/2018/04/06/the-tale-of-a-1986-experiment-that-proved-einstein-wrong/
            >inb4 tl;dr

            your science is outdated and flawed due to israelites, sorry

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            and then Einstein helped develop a nuclear bomb with his oogie boogie mystic powers

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            https://www.business-standard.com/world-news/einstein-never-worked-on-the-manhattan-project-here-s-why-you-think-he-did-123071800538_1.html

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            funny how that the picture is actually true.
            substitute chaos for nothing, they are the same, as both are nothing (concrete).
            out of this chaos/nothingness/void/emptiness came order (concretes).

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            I see your point, but 'something' is not the same as 'nothing'. 'God' is not the same as 'lack of God'. Atheists are moronic deists in denial.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Chaos is not nothing. Nothing is 100% ordered and stable.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            1. that's your uneducated opinion
            2. you don't know
            3. no

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            When he sees a pic like this or that, his first impulse is to search the quote on his fav browser trying to outsmart everyone in the room so he doesn't feel so small and pathetic.
            Then he finds a "fact-checker" saying it's a fake quote and his day is made.
            Here's a pasta I made for tards like him.

            >“People with new ideas, people with the faintest capacity for saying something new, are extremely few in number, extraordinarily so, in fact.”
            ― Crime and Punishment

            >“I used to analyze myself down to the last thread, used to compare myself with others, recalled all the smallest glances, smiles and words of those to whom I’d tried to be frank, interpreted everything in a bad light, laughed viciously at my attempts ‘to be like the rest’ –and suddenly, in the midst of my laughing, I’d give way to sadness, fall into ludicrous despondency and once again start the whole process all over again – in short, I went round and round like a squirrel on a wheel.”
            ― Crime and Punishment

            >“There is something at the bottom of every new human thought, every thought of genius, or even every earnest thought that springs up in any brain, which can never be communicated to others, (...); there's something left which cannot be induced to emerge from your brain, and remains with you forever; and with it you will die, without communicating to anyone perhaps the most important of your ideas.”
            ― The Idiot

            >“An intelligent man cannot become anything seriously, and it is only the fool who becomes anything.”
            ― Notes from the Underground

            The concept of synthesis is too much for you. I'm aware there's no proof Dostoevsky said those exact words. I guess you never read him and even if you did it was most likely just to feel enlightened, but you're unable to understand his words. Else you would've noticed how the "fake" quote nicely encapsulates his ideology.

            >It's a test and you failed.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >nicely encapsulates his ideology.
            But it doesnt. HIS words do that. YOUR words show what you think of his words.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            >midwit can't comprehend synthesis
            https://evolutionnews.org/2022/04/at-the-bottom-of-the-glass-god-is-waiting/

            https://www.wondersofphysics.com/2019/11/list-of-famous-theists-in-physics.html
            Notice how there's no article about famous gnostics in physics
            gnostic ≠ theist

            A lot of famous 20th century metaphysicians had a background in engineering (specifically electrical engineering), believe it or not and all scientists of old were alchemists, to various degrees. some of them were able to penetrate into higher mental planes of reality (aka "kingdom of heaven", jhana, samadhi), coming back with a great jump in wisdom and catapulting humanity forward by a great margin.

            I have come to understand that approximately 80% or so of any given people (that is, white Europeans) are what would be classically referred to as “hylics”. That is, while they are technically sentient and self aware humans, they are extremely rudimentary in this level of sentience/self awareness. They’re basically at the level of a very smart animal like a crow or dolphin but with the ability to vocalize and communicate with human speech. But the key factor they all share is that they are literally unable/incapable of analyzing things from an objective, internal perspective. They cannot ask questions about something. The idea of something making internal “sense” is a confusing concept to them. Quite literally, all logic, rationality, and idea of “sense” in the world is defined by external figures of authority and information telling them something in an authoritative or matter of fact tone, and them then just believing this and defending it to the death for the rest of their entire life while never actually understanding it beyond just knowing “hey that’s what the screen said” or “that’s what the man on the TV said” and why wouldn’t that be the obvious complete reality?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >That's a fake quote
            It's a quote attributed to him that cannot be found in his writings, but it's similar to other things he has written, and Carl Friedrich von Weizsäcker, Heisenberg's protege, wrote the exact quote himself, referring to it as "an old adage". Whether Heisenberg said it at some point or not, it's something that he would have agreed with.
            >Heisenberg was not a theist
            Heisenberg was a practicing Lutheran.
            >Please stop being dumb.
            Try taking your own advice.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So it's a fake quote.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >if he didn't write it down, he couldn't possibly have said it
            By your logic, literally every quotation attributed to Socrates is "fake" because he wrote nothing down himself, Plato wrote it all.
            Like I said, you should try taking your own advice and stop being dumb.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >literally every quotation attributed to Socrates is "fake" because he wrote nothing down himself, Plato wrote it all.
            Yes. Every single thing people falsely attribute to Socrates is correctly claimed as "this is what Plato said of Socrates".
            The main difference here is the thousands of years, but it is correct to say we can quote Plato, but we cannot quote Socrates.
            So if you want to quote Heisenberg, go ahead.
            If you want to quote someoen who knew Heisenberg, then go ahead - but be sure to be truthful and say "this isnt Heisenberg at all."
            As it was presented in this thread - it is a fake quote.
            Heisenberg never said it.
            Never wrote it.
            That is why you are desperate to point to everything but the lack of it coming from Heisenberg.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Heisenberg never said it.
            prove it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >waves around at complete lack of any reason to claim he said it
            Now go ahead and offer any evidence toward your claim. Unless you can counter my support, my point stands.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            holy shit you're fricking moronic
            let's look at this rationally

            evidence that Heisenberg said it:
            >a contemporary of Heisenberg claimed that he said it
            >it is perfectly in line with Heisenberg's belief system
            evidence that Heisenberg didn't say it:
            >a random dipshit on EerieWeb decades later claims it's a fake quote
            >side note: this dipshit anon claimed that Heisenberg wasn't a theist when in fact he was a practicing Christian, so we know this anon has no idea what the frick he's talking about

          • 3 weeks ago
            Pol

            One absolute is all that is.
            >The One True God is more of a concept
            For you for now, unity of all can be experienced and realized.
            No amount of human logic will reveal the truth but it's good to know what your views imply, duality is very nasty.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Meaning that God is impotent or unloving hence evil can exist.

            evil definitely exists alongside pain and suffering so yeah sure seems like God is either impotent or unloving

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you talk about a meaningless dream that lasts less than a fraction of infinity. imagine a reality where everything is 100x more real, you wouldn't be so identified with this life

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i don't think thats how it works, moreso god just manifests the world in mysterious ways

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sometimes it's not actually about the individual in question. Karma operates in several cycles of different scales, and people can get caught in something greater than them. You will understand better when you realize that there really is no individual self after all. It's a misconception that reincarnation means you have a particular soul that is passed on down a line. "I" resides in ALL beings.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Pol

      You become curious and start to wonder why nature works the way it does, and when you look deeper you start noticing these recurring patterns everywhere.
      These transcendental truths are just sitting there and waiting to be noticed by inquisitive non-NPC's, and it just so happens that looking into the basic building blocks of psychophysical reality from an objective point of view (which is what electrical engineering is part of) is a surefire way to stumble across them.

      It's quite the transformative experience.
      If you're able to integrate this knowledge properly you will gain what the ancient aryans refered to as "jnana"

      Time isn't real. It's our creation. The Universe is made of waves, which all travel at the speed of light and don't experience time. Everything, everywhere exists simultaneously. Time is just the light waves in the aetherial dimension cut into an infinite number of Planck-sized slices by the electricity in our mind. This cutting process is done by channeling anti-matter laser beams into the 4th dimension (where our imagination resides) that creates an interrupting pulse. This pulse divides the 4th dimension into an infinite number of slices that are refreshed because they can't exist simultaneously in the same space. This refresh is what we call time.
      The reason why we are experiencing the moment time merges back into space is because that's the only thing that has ever happened in reality. The raunchy details like israelites and Black folk are just the result of our minds tripping a bit with the high influx of power, potential and matter running through the slice in the 4D. Before we created time, reality was an immutable monolith of light and energy (God) and we were one within and one with it.

      One absolute is all that is.
      >The One True God is more of a concept
      For you for now, unity of all can be experienced and realized.
      No amount of human logic will reveal the truth but it's good to know what your views imply, duality is very nasty.

      >No amount of human logic will reveal the truth
      Agree, but it helps in ruling out lies. For example that the Demiurge/Satan/Jehovah/Yahweh/Allah/Moloch/Baal and God are the same thing

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >ruling out lies. For example that the Demiurge/Satan/Jehovah/Yahweh/Allah/Moloch/Baal and God are the same thing
        What rules it out?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Pol

          What you are describing is not god.
          People like to think of God as some thing or energy because a thing or energy is exploitable.
          A resource you can exploit.
          It is quite literally the attitude of Satan.

          https://www.paste.sh/lXEFDvI9#yW9cfEMk9kBd0VtKPR9FjgMW

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you cant say it yourself, you dont believe it yourself and I wont bother with it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Time isn't real. It's our creation. The Universe is made of waves, which all travel at the speed of light and don't experience time.
        This is not true. Quantum field theory requires a chronological relation between quantum particles.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >muh science
        time exists, don't be pedant

        • 3 weeks ago
          Pol

          https://www.space.com/29859-the-illusion-of-time.html
          >To many physicists, while we experience time as psychologically real, time is not fundamentally real. At the deepest foundations of nature, time is not a primitive, irreducible element or concept required to construct reality.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"Job deserved it because he got it and God allowed it."
    is equally as moronic a statement.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not like a system of punishment. Her soul wants that experience. We all want our experiences. For reasons this part of us, the human part, can't understand or comprehend. Don't make people out to be victims like that. She was not a victim. She is a strong soul.

    I imagine when you are in the higher planes, you think about what an honor it would be to come to Earth and live a life as hard as hers. To fill whatever purpose she fulfilled.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Her soul wants that experience. We all want our experiences
      Demonic lies

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I will be like alexander the great in my next life, gay too

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the quotes indicate someone else may have said this
    you can always make up excuses and works of fiction to justify violence
    but when you do you become just what you sought to criticize
    >"in his past life he made up stories in order to justify violence against others"
    so when your time comes will you be willing to take your own medicine? (whoever wrote this)
    i would wish this on no-one. why would you?

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I CAN FIX HER!!!

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Furthermore, Lucy.

    Peace with me will cost you $$$$
    Until then, war starts again with you

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "I made up a premise because I'm incapable of an intellectual argument"
    Look OP there were Buddhists in my life that said fricked up things of a similar nature but you don't see me projecting my anger onto other people, learn to seperate the individual from the philosophy.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if she's the one doing the torturing then sign me up uuoohh

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hermeto-gnostics=morons

    • 3 weeks ago
      Pol

      90% of people in the world are functional morons, at least some are on the right track.
      Calling what you dislike "moronic" makes you sound moronic.
      Gnostics study the trivium and quadrivium. Logic, specifically, is what makes the difference between stupid and intelligent people.
      Saying hermeto-gnostics are morons is kinda like saying mathematicians can't do math, that doesn't mean they can't get results wrong sometimes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Pol

      https://i.imgur.com/hIvNSyc.jpg

      90% of people in the world are functional morons, at least some are on the right track.
      Calling what you dislike "moronic" makes you sound moronic.
      Gnostics study the trivium and quadrivium. Logic, specifically, is what makes the difference between stupid and intelligent people.
      Saying hermeto-gnostics are morons is kinda like saying mathematicians can't do math, that doesn't mean they can't get results wrong sometimes.

      I'm not defending Marx, I hate Marx and woketards and everything about israelites.
      But the guy in the video never mentions that Marx was a israelite, not a gnostic. A israelite gotta israelite so he got what he needed for his toxic ideology and twisted it to serve his purpose: subversion and wreaking havoc.
      There were a lot of gnostic and hermetic schools when Jesus died and each one of them had different interpretations, many got subverted too. Talking about gnosticism or hermetism or hermeto-gnosticism is a faulty generalization.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone have her birth date? I want to read her numerology chart bad. I have a feeling she had a 7 lifepath possibly

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I have a feeling she had a 7 lifepath possibly
      Why?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because she seemed intelligent. Just a guess from Some of her physiognomy

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sometimes I act like her. Unable to speak and overall dumb. Hopefully she's good now

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's crazy because I kill a lot of innocent people in all my past humans lives and kill people in this life, so that's bullshit(also, if souls reincarnated from Animals, FYI animals kill too.)

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    More proof god abandoned us all. I just hope there is no god.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      .. said God

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But who are you quoting?

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Karma is not justice stoopid

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's actually not how it works.
    GOOD people get reincarnated into bad lives.
    BAD people get reincarnated into good lives.
    Because the Archons in control, who trick people back into the light tunnel, are very evil themselves.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >GOOD people get reincarnated into bad lives.
      >BAD people get reincarnated into good lives.
      Not a rule, but it's certainly more common. Not that their destiny is written in the stars, necessarily. Thing is, that the world perpetuates and reinforces bad deeds, while disregards the good deeds. It is the world that is bad, and you who is stupid to come back here. So the bad often produces stronger effects and the good produces weaker effects, to our world, because the energy of goodness is subtle. Therefore, if you are relentlessly evil, the probability is that our reality will witness it's effects more immediately and more intensely. If you do good deeds, well, it doesn't make any money and people shits on your head, lol.
      Just think with me:
      >RHP magic practitioner
      Will become an illuminated hobo that everybody looks down to.
      >black magic practitioner
      People will search you, respect/fear you and pay for your work.
      >spend life trying to reach the Great Work
      Will live poorly, judged by your peers, alone and unknown.
      >spend life businessmaxxing, playing with people's emotions and fooling everyone in your path
      Will live a notorious life, with lots of money, kiss asses and people looking up to you like you're some kind of sigma male icon.
      >born in a 3rd world country as a slave or some crap
      >notorious if violent, ruthless and criminal
      >gets social respect, may even become famous
      >unheard if honest, treated as a piece of shit if continues to be a hard worker
      >lives/dies slowly and painfully with zero acknowledgement

      • 3 weeks ago
        Pol

        Justice may make sense, but it isn't applied in this reality on a complete way. Material life is literally unfair and made for the unfair. So, the only karma that applies here is bad karma. The amount of people that suffers is growing, and the amount of people that rules through evil is shrinking, but their rule is getting more and more sophisticated and their pleasure is reaching new heights. The good deeds made by good people has just been without effect. In what matters to this reality, goodness is just dust in the wind. It is frail and perishes easily, while evil gets perpetuated. Doing good makes zero difference in practical terms to this world. The world only grows what's bad. The good will take you out of here. The bad will keep you here. Where are these (suffering) people coming from? Why does history repeats itself in ever more sinister ways than before? The good karma being applied to our reality just doesn't sum up. By those standards, the world is going to become literal Hell, because wrong doings never stops and karma never stops. So why bring good souls to this planet? So they can get caught in the cycle? Sounds moronic to me. Everyone here is bad, and the people who are not bad will soon not come back here. No matter how good this world may be in essence, it's destiny is to become hell.

        https://i.imgur.com/W20u9yB.jpg

        >this world is not hell, it's a genius creation
        That would depend on your perspective, wouldn't it. Think of the labor and living conditions going into the technology we are communicating with. From rare earth mine to store shelves. This world very much seems to damage spirits. The reincarnation wheel could be broken, even if it is, what percentage of people are slaves or near slaves.

        This is all true.
        The only good deed we can perform that matters is the pneumatic task, that is trying to help others find their way to Monad, which feels like a self-imposed torture, having to deal with the general rampant idiocy...

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Justice may make sense, but it isn't applied in this reality on a complete way. Material life is literally unfair and made for the unfair. So, the only karma that applies here is bad karma. The amount of people that suffers is growing, and the amount of people that rules through evil is shrinking, but their rule is getting more and more sophisticated and their pleasure is reaching new heights. The good deeds made by good people has just been without effect. In what matters to this reality, goodness is just dust in the wind. It is frail and perishes easily, while evil gets perpetuated. Doing good makes zero difference in practical terms to this world. The world only grows what's bad. The good will take you out of here. The bad will keep you here. Where are these (suffering) people coming from? Why does history repeats itself in ever more sinister ways than before? The good karma being applied to our reality just doesn't sum up. By those standards, the world is going to become literal Hell, because wrong doings never stops and karma never stops. So why bring good souls to this planet? So they can get caught in the cycle? Sounds moronic to me. Everyone here is bad, and the people who are not bad will soon not come back here. No matter how good this world may be in essence, it's destiny is to become hell.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this world is a hell created by an evil entity that hates us and jacks off to our suffering from an untouchable sky box

    >muh evil is subjective

    go frick yourself

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nah. if that's reincarnated justice, that's pretty gay. the girl didn't know any better. she was raised to be treated like shit and thought that's how life is. she never got over the confusion of doctors trying to explain to her what love and compassion

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jeet religion is utterly repulsive. How could anyone seriously not think that the Christianity is simply superior to that demonic jeet religion.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You spent too much time on EerieWeb

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You do realize that reincarnation was originally taught in Christianity?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was thing with Clement of Alexandria irc and Origen of Alexandria. However, it generally was rejected by others. The main position is called traducianism.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          jesus was curios to know his previous incarnation and did not outright declare it as "dOcTrInE oF dEviLs"

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The transmigration of the soul simply exists, it's an observation on the nature of the world. The fact is religions which have realized this have breaking the cylce of reincarnation as something you should be striving to achieve.
    It's not your petty redditor sitting outside of time on a highhorse.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being her bf when she was in her 20s
    >Tugs your arm to let you know she needs to pee or take a shit
    >becomes like an animal dependent of her owner
    God should have sent a man with a pure heart her way.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    H

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The reason why people are born deformed or handicapped is because you israeli harry potter stories are fake and not real, and everyone is subject to nature. Stop pretending and accept reality. The good news about the material world is that anything broken by nature can be fixed or managed with the right ingenuity and will. It's why medicine exists, instead of you all still trying to "cast out demons" and drilling holes in people to drain their blood.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah reincarnation and karmic debt is really hard for a lot of people to accept

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't have to be because she tortured people. It could, but it could also be that her soul needed to experience being crippled or simply wanted to. The lesson might not be just for her either. She may be playing the part of a cripple in this life to teach those around her like her friends and family to love and accept crippled people. To teach her community or doctors how to care for someone like that. There's a whole lot of lessons that come with having a life like that, not just for you but for those around you also. You have to train your mind to stop jumping straight to the conclusion that it's some sort of punishment because it isn't and if people would realize that then it would be easier for them to accept reincarnation

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When reincarnation is spoken about it's almost never in a positive way, I don't know where you're coming from. You literally don't even remember previous karma and seem to be born with it. It's all meant to make you suffer, suffering leads to inflicting suffering, then you generate more negative karma and repeat.

    Then when you do good you get good karma and the demons reward you with riches.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >It's all her fault.
    >She has no one to blame but herself.
    >This is karma for something she did in a past life.
    >Sorry, can't get to Heaven. You have to be perfect.

    I'm gonna DICKSLAP the machines.

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