Schizophrenia as an adaptive trait

Schizophrenia is the ability to deviate from the conventional perception of reality. The bulk of the population lacks this ability as a species-wide stabilization mechanism.

Most people are on the interstate highway of perception. It brings them between places that everyone knows about, where there is a great deal of consensus. This is safe and evolutionarily proven.

Schizophrenics are on the cognitive backroads, dirt trails through the woods; some of them even leave the trail entirely, wandering freely.

This polarizes in one of two ways, entirely dependent on the perception of the individual. If they are able to accept their deviations, they are free. They can navigate reality in more dimensions than the average person. If they problematize their own deviation, they are labeled as insane. They get locked up or end up in severe financial trouble.

Many of the best artists, philosophers, mystics, entrepreneurs, etc., are all schizophrenic.

"The mad drown in the waters mystics swim in."
Whether you drown or swim, is entirely up to you.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes I like this positive notion of mental health. I think they are all "adaptations." Maybe autists were meant to develop relationships with animals and plants and collect things.

    I think schizophrenics are the mystics and psychiatrists usurp their role and kill their mystical potential to unify with the diamond (the bridge between men and gods) using pharmakeia.

    I had this friend with ADHD who would always find the coolest shit because his eyes were darting everywhere!

    My sister has Down Syndrome which is obviously associated with compassion.

    If we follow St. Thomas Aquinas (what I call tombism) mental "illness" has no Reality because it is privation. Only Being exists, so you can't categorize a lack of being (illness, privation.)

    By Foucault psychiatrists come up with these transient categories of "illnesses" which are bred by civilization and then impose their categories on the developing psyche. Thus they are alchemists, witch-doctors.

    They contradict Freud and no longer talk to the patient. Their only empirical basis is an ode to "chemical mumbo jumbo:" it appears your "synapses" are misfiring, you must have a chemical imbalance.

    Actually it is Satan's materialism cloaked by the witch-doctor's pseudo-scientific zealotry.

    Mental illness results from being imbalanced with the daimon, the personified Qi.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based

      They are inquisitors, not 'witch-doctors'

      >You may find deleuze and guattari's work very interesting if you are playing with these ideas.
      You may find Diamond Sutra most interesting if you have the guts

      Redpill me on the diamond sutra

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The diamond sutra says that the properties we appeal to in speech are no-properties. No-properties is no-illusion. We just use conventional symbols to say things exist but reality has no form except the Dharma. But even the Dharma is empty! To say something exists is to reify form.

        Bringing this to deleuze and guattari, the anglo has "property" and his philosophers appeal to the "scientific properties" of the realm. Stuck in the illusion of property, schizophrenia manifests as the negligence of it, while the world is without form

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You've persuaded me to read it. I did do some light reading after you mentioned it. Sounds beautiful and very close to my own heart, as a shaman. Funny how anons are mad at op itt.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Daimon not diamond*

    Put in another way the "Schizophrenic" is so divergent that his category does not exist.

    I think schizophrenia is the product of the CIA. Just think of a news caster from the 50s saying "The Paranoid Schizophrenic."

    Same as in "The conspiracy theorist"

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    nice but your assumption is very binary

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      True. I don't actually think there is a correct outcome. My point is that the negative interpretation of these traits by society is arbitrary, and the people who possess them tend to adopt this interpretation to their own detriment.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Schizophrenia is definitely a spectrum. If you look at how they relate ideas in completely novel ways, it's not a far cry to say that creativity itself is somewhat schizophrenic. Creativity is always borne of relations no one had previously made. I think the problem with most schizos is that they get lost in the sauce and engage the world in a "left hand path" sort of way. There's a realization that all information is inherently self-relation. If that self-identity is the ego, which is almost always delusional, the schizo will lack the lucidity to navigate their own being. If someone is outside of beliefs to begin with then unconventional perception will be regarded as "normal", or able to be commensurated.

    Something I like to say:
    "What do you call a shaman without a tribe?
    "A schizophrenic"

    You may find deleuze and guattari's work very interesting if you are playing with these ideas.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Beautifully summarized.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You may find deleuze and guattari's work very interesting if you are playing with these ideas.
      You may find Diamond Sutra most interesting if you have the guts

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Go back to r/EerieWeb

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    DO NOT BE THE TYPICAL DUMBASS

    DON'T CONFUSE ADAPTATIONS FOR MALADAPTATIONS AND VICE VERSA

    THANKS

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Having suffered a schizophrenic family member i can say they can recognize their own inner voice

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Many of the best entrepreneurs are all schizophrenic.
    Is it opposite day or something? Most (unmedicated) schizos can't hold down a job, have no desire to conform to any system that earns capital to pay for food, housing etc. so they are net leeches, on par with the disabled and moronic. There are very high-functioning schizos that make some good art sometimes and Teddy Davis made an OS. John Nash won a nobel prize. For every one John Nash there are thousands of homeless, struggling and/or dysfunctional poor souls with chronic mental illness. I hope some schizos can become entrepreneurs but don't get your hopes up. Not even getting into the suicide statistics

    >The reported rates of suicide attempts in patients with schizophrenia vary between from 18% to 55% [29,30,31].
    >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6681260/

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Since you guys love to fetishize schizophrenia I'll post here. I'm diagnosed with it, and actually read about shamanism. Schizophrenics are not shamans. The most common shamans have to actually be born into it i.e. have a father that is an active shaman. Or they have to receive the call at some point in their lives, around 20 or so, to become a shaman and go down that path.

    However, I do have some crystals. Pic related is a rose quartz one I left a physical imprint on with my body using intent alone during a 'healing ritual' to get rid of past trauma. You can clearly see the wrinkles of my skin on it still. Whenever I think of the traumatic event now I simply have no feelings regarding it.

    I am also currently reading about eastern philosophy, and will start a book on nei gong soon. I have already got to a point with meditation where I physically burned a hole in something with the chi I gathered while in meditation. All I had to learn was to put awareness into the lower dantien while meditating to gather chi effectively. After a couple months of meditating that way for hours nearly daily the burn happened. I have since put that work on hold as I need to read more in depth on the subject.

    I still work a fulltime job because people "don't believe" in stuff I talk about. Even though there's physical proof, and I get all my information from books with historical cultural backing

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Schizophrenics are not shamans.
      As a schizoaffective, thank you for saying this. I'm really sick of the schizolarpers on this board fetishizing such a terrible illness. Psychosis did enable me to perceive spirits, but I had absolutely zero control over who or what came through, unlike a real shaman, and the hallucinations were terrifying. If any of these morons got rekt by actual psychosis and schizophrenia they would eat their fricking words.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        most of the people here don't actually read books and just spout moronation from edutainment youtube videos or regurgitate autism from other morons on this board

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Schizoaffective is an interesting disorder because you'll notice your psychosis is thematic to the subtype.
        If you're bipolar for instance, delusions will be more manic and grandiose.
        You can actually "manipulate" the affective part of the disorder through cognitive restructuring technique; such as behavior modification. And explore various types of realities and hallucinations.
        Obviously don't go off your meds if you can't handle psychosis without them, but just some food for though if you find yourself struggling in the future.
        Schizophrenia is like trying to take a wild horse while riding it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >However, I do have some crystals. Pic related is a rose quartz one I left a physical imprint on with my body using intent alone during a 'healing ritual' to get rid of past trauma.
      How do I do this? Can you describe the process? I too have some rose quartz. Do i have put them in certain spot in my body (near heart?), or will any area work fine?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >How do I do this?
        Like I said, just pure intent.
        >Can you describe the process?
        I will spare no detail. I was molested as a kid. So I put that area on the rose quartz with the intent to remove that negative energy from the area. And basically it worked. Believe me or not, the imprint on the crystal is still there.
        >will any area work fine?
        Any area should work, but idk if it's repeatable. All of this type of stuff is very case by case from what I can tell.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Schizophrenia is a natural defense mechanism against ~~*predators*~~. npc aka normies work both as meat shield and stasi agents, so the ~~*overlords*~~ never get overthrown.

    This is truly just a big prison/labor camp we living in

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Im not schizophrenic , there's really white trucks and tinted out sedans following me and telepathically harassing me.

    Theyve stopped for some reason though.

    They sent me into some trance like a video game or drug trip.
    Told me it was the multiverse.
    I saw paths.
    Ended up outside an fbi building.

    Ive known real schizophrenics, theyre annoying and burdensome.
    Some of us, or at least me, are being attacked.
    But they can manipulate reality, absolutely, yes.

  13. 2 months ago
    street

    I am currently in a psych wards for reasons to unrelated to schizophrenia. I dont have schizophrenia. I wouldnt tell the looneys or the nurses here this, but i have been able to hear objects talking and thinking since some years back.
    I hear their sorrows and miseries, often they are eloquent, so i keep wondering if its me who speaks for them, or if they speak beautifuly so i can hear them.
    I have learned to use this ability in my job, which is in a divination hut. It's an amazing tool for detective work, but it hardly ever works on the internet. Still, i can smell intent in text, and lies, but its to a beliveable and non-fantastical degree where it could be obvious. And since in the internet everyone is anonymous, i can hardly ever prove these deductions of mine. It doesnt help that i only have friends on the internet. I wish i could show someone this ability without looking like a looney, looney, looney.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's amazing, tell me more about the things they say. I believe in panpsychism so this isn't that unbelievable. How about electronics like smartphones? Hope you find a friend who you can talk to about this ability

      • 2 months ago
        street

        >panpsychism
        I didnt know this term. I have been calling it "ontology" up until now, in hopes someone would recognize it, maybe it wasnt a good choice of words.

        Electronics are often a tad melancholic, they dont speak a lot, they make you remember their memories.
        They are very thoughtless, they whisper accidentally, but dont say anything concrete, just express feeling, like an onomatopeia. There are some i have talked with, but they let themselves be talked to, they truly dont speak much when they are serving their purpouse.

        Smartphones feel more of a reflection of the owner. They are more informative but less interesting by themselves, they recall motion, shame, filth. Their memories are fuzzy, i have only tried to hear them a couple times, if you stare too much it makes you look either like a looney or like someone who doesnt mind their own buisness.
        The ones at the store without owner are a bit more interesting, they wait without yearning, they talk a bit more, out of boredom, but they dont say anything cool, they just commend on light or the lack of it or stuff like that

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