Ross Coulthart shares glimpse about UFO "somber truth"?

So quite recently Ross Coulthart gave Q&As on reddit.
Here is most prominent question by community and Coulthart's answer for it, because since long time people in UFO community speculating what that somber/dark/ truth about UFOs might be:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1ccg90m/comment/l153f5w/

Did he officially but quietly confirmed human mutilation? I mean this is a fact that it happens (and because of this maybe I should create this thread in /misc/) but we can't be sure whether it's done by aliens or some black projects, either way government have to answer alot of tough questions...
check out badaliens.info for more details but be WARNED though, if you are not desensitized it might be traumatic for you

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1ccg90m/ross_coulthart_ask_me_anything/

Here ^ is whole topic which contain other interesting stuff too. Two things were striking for me. He confirmed that (according to his sources):

First one
Q: "Is there existing video online of NHIs? "
A: "Yes - or so I am told. I'm a bit skinny on the facts."

Implying that skinny Bob video is genuine
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1ccg90m/comment/l154otg/

Second one
-various types of NHI; "humanoid, semi-humanoid (tall whites), Grays in different sizes, Reptilians and apparently sentient plasmoids and technology."
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1ccg90m/comment/l153cnd/

And honestly I think that truth about UFOs might be darker than what he implying in first post I mentioned, aka some unfortunate deals from 1954.
Since he confirmed reptilians, I feel that humanity might be infiltrated since very beginning. Hence people who going against government are often later being found suicided with 100 holes in back of the head...
I hope I'm wrong though, but the FACT that researches about anti gravity, cures for various diseases, zero point energy etc has been hampered plenty of times - is worrisome and feels like something bit worse than just mutilations?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Well I mean it would seem they are working on a prison planet global tyranny to just squeeze us of loosh. I don't know if this is part of our evolution or what.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah by observing world around prison planet is more likely than just some mutlilation from national parks and other remote areas
      Not to mention all those ancient depictions of humanoid aliens and their air vehicles...

      but maybe rumors about benevolent Galacitc Federation are true, and also rumors that they are winning against bad guys are also true, hence all this information finally coming out. Didn't Tom DeLonge said something like that?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You homosexuals always go to this. Who would give a shit?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Planetary take over by alien human hybrids.
    Dr David Jacobs has the info for any that care to look.

    The hippy nonsense about star children etc is best wishful thinking at worse actual denial

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They might both exist simultaneously.

      I know on this Earth we’re easily traumatized, desensitized, and made cynical. So maybe the sentimental conception of “star children” might make us want to gag, or want to vomit. Maybe even rightly so. But it still might be true, at the same time fricked-up things like cattle mutilation by ETs, and even human mutilation by ETs might be true.

      Common symptoms of actually, genuinely, seriously, unironically learning about the ET presence, their interaction and history with humanity and on the Earth, and the real-life implications of this, might be hysterical dramatics in one’s own personal life for a while, weepiness, profound symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), heavy drinking, and then cutting back on the heavy drinking out of horror and embarrassment out of what one might start saying (or writing) while super drunk about all this, and other people in one’s life (close friends and family) equally horrified and/or embarrassed reactions, as well as suggesting you have mental health issues or even wanting to institutionalize you. It’s THAT dramatic. Embarrassing, really. And even almost in a way darkly funny. Like a Kubrick film or something.

      What people think are "alien abductions" are a cover for government and cult mind control programming. Screen memories of aliens in case they begin to remember what has been done to them. There does exist "UFO" advanced flying technology that has been developed for a long time. The idea of space aliens also helps to cover these up in case of sightings. The 'big secret', what is actually being hidden so fiercely by those in power, is the reality of what they are doing, what is behind all of this. Literal industrial-scale ritual abuse, torture, trafficking, MKULTRA/MONARCH trauma-based mind control programming, and Nazi-inspired genetic and surgical experiments/mutilation in government labs/deep underground military bases of children and adults alike. Agencies like NASA, CIA, NSA are involved in this under their covers and fronts. Many will refuse to listen or believe that humans could be so cruel, so insane, and could do such vile things to children. This is one reason why these topics, like Satanic/Luciferian cult ritual abuse and trauma-based mind control, continue to stay in the dark. It is the reality though. Children are trafficked, raped, and tortured to death by those in power; the cults and governments. Children are being genetically tortured and made to look like 'aliens'. Children are having their minds shattered at birth through extreme trauma and reprogrammed as government slaves.

      Almost all of these people and "UFO researchers" are either in on the cover-up, misled and lied to, or victims themselves. Intelligence agencies are one of the biggest users of mind control. Many intelligence personnel and agents are programmed to believe in aliens. They will fully believe it's real through mind control programming. Many are also shown faked Top Secret government documents talking about aliens. They will believe it, coming from their superiors in government. When people are "following disclosure", they are literally just listening to disinformation agents, paid liars, and mind control victims say what they are instructed or programmed to. There is no such thing as actual 'disclosure'. They will never admit what has been happening, what they have been doing. That would be the end for them, no matter what, and they know this. Research the people running the government and these kind of programs. Aliens from outer space are not driving to this planet in their spaceships, kidnapping people, using them for mind control slavery and performing medical experiments on them, and then returning them. People are doing exactly this, and have been for a very long time. This is known. This is the reason why it's intergenerational. This is the reason for the secrecy. This is the reason for the reported genetic experiments and fetus stealing. It's mind control and illegal human experimentation on a massive, worldwide scale.

      Read this post for a shitload of extremely relevant information and links:

      https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/467515589
      https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/467515589
      https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/467515589

      This could be true at the same time a genuine bona-fife ET/UFO presence and existence is true. I’ve gone deep into this, being traumatized by Fritz Springmeier’s and Cathy O’Brien’s and others’ works and accounts of such MK-Ultra/Monarch and affiliated projects, as well as by accounts of UFO and ET encounters.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >It’s THAT dramatic.

        nah. the story they're trying to sell is just deception.

        What people think are "alien abductions" are a cover for government and cult mind control programming. Screen memories of aliens in case they begin to remember what has been done to them. There does exist "UFO" advanced flying technology that has been developed for a long time. The idea of space aliens also helps to cover these up in case of sightings. The 'big secret', what is actually being hidden so fiercely by those in power, is the reality of what they are doing, what is behind all of this. Literal industrial-scale ritual abuse, torture, trafficking, MKULTRA/MONARCH trauma-based mind control programming, and Nazi-inspired genetic and surgical experiments/mutilation in government labs/deep underground military bases of children and adults alike. Agencies like NASA, CIA, NSA are involved in this under their covers and fronts. Many will refuse to listen or believe that humans could be so cruel, so insane, and could do such vile things to children. This is one reason why these topics, like Satanic/Luciferian cult ritual abuse and trauma-based mind control, continue to stay in the dark. It is the reality though. Children are trafficked, raped, and tortured to death by those in power; the cults and governments. Children are being genetically tortured and made to look like 'aliens'. Children are having their minds shattered at birth through extreme trauma and reprogrammed as government slaves.

        I've briefly considered this and ruled it out. it's too encompassing and too successful. occam's razor - demonic delusions.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > nah. the story they're trying to sell is just deception.
          You don’t know, and you don’t even know that you don’t even know, but God bless you and all here, regardless.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            what is the great deception warned of in the revelation? how could it work when most of the world is christian or has been exposed to christianity? it has to be a deception worthy of ontological shock.

            >you don't know and blah blah blah

            the truth is quite simple and not that terrifying. they've already lost.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Again, I bring up “human mental moronation compared to them.” Not even for you, since you’re lost, but I guess for the interest of other posters or lurkers here reading this. Christ, Christianity, various prophets and prophecies of the Old and New Testaments also do still have great significance and merit in all this, in my conception.

            Consider the possibility of humanity being STRONGLY PROGRAMMED. Imagine us having a profound ‘blockage’ programmed in us — which includes a raw, sheer animal fear at the sight of various:

            “magical”
            “occult”
            “esoteric”
            “conspiratorial”
            “extraterrestrial/alien”
            etc.

            phenomena, where we basically have a profound conditioning that makes us do something like (do the cross over ourselves) (call on Allah) etc… basically, revert to some fundamentalist religion conception (whether israeli, Christian, Muslim, or otherwise) when we experience mind-bending phenomena like these, and basically go, “It must be the Devil” (whether a israeli, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, indigenous shamanic, etc…. conception of such a Devil or demonic force). Imagine this as something of a blockage (perhaps even there for a good reason) implanted in us, such that we immediately and primitively revert to this reaction upon witnessing, hearing, or experiencing anything too fricked-up and way-out-there suggestive of the ‘occult’, ‘paranormal’, ‘extraterrestrial’, etc.

            Sort of like uncontacted tribes in South America and elsewhere flipping out at the sight of airplanes, helicopters, etc., and emissaries of the Western world — having their bow and arrow at the ready. And, again, maybe not even without good reason or validity — who knows how their lives would turn out with contact with more developed civilizations?

            What happened to the Native Americans when the Europeans came?

            https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-31/man-of-the-hole-death-uncontacted-tribes/101390546

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I bring up “human mental moronation compared to them.”

            angels are about 9000000 IQ compared to humans, even the fallen ones. likely the nephilim as well.

            >Consider the possibility of humanity being STRONGLY PROGRAMMED

            yes, humans have a natural reaction of fear to the demonic and various spooky stuff. and they take advantage of it mostly because they take pleasure in disrupting our daily lives, and of course, drawing our fear away from God.

            >Imagine this as something of a blockage (perhaps even there for a good reason) implanted in us

            it's not implanted, it's perfectly natural. if mankind can conceive of an all encompassing horror, it can conceive of a God in opposition.

            at the end of the day, I've been looking into abductions, experiences, blah blah, and it's so obvious that they had to roll out that rosicrucian Valle to control the narrative - it's demons.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I get what you say. I’d just ask you to consider more deeply:

            Who and what these

            “Angels”
            “Fallen angels”
            “Nephilim”
            Etc.

            Are. And if THOSE old accounts (as in the Old and New Testaments) might have ANY relation to OUR modern accounts of things like UFOs, aliens, ETs and the like. And beyond just “all aliens being demons.” An understandable belief, again, and in fact one I once seriously considered and held for a time, including even during what I strongly believe to be encounter with such beings.

            With that, I want to go to sleep. Not trolling, shilling for some intelligence agency, or fricking around at all, at least so far as I know. This is just me and my beliefs, without some agenda you might be imagining. I agree with being wary of entities like Western governments and intelligence agencies likely the CIA, NSA, and the likes. God bless and Godspeed.

          • 1 month ago
            METEYA

            > And beyond just “all aliens being demons.”
            This is categorically true. There are no sapient physical aliens present in Earth's Universe, we ARE the First Ones. NHIs are beings that live in other dimensions and are capable of mind control and trapping souls into vicious reincarnation cycles where all of the soul's energies are harvested at death. Some are capable of driving ships into our dimension. Insight into the astral without any capacity to force change on it is an exercise in absolute fear and frustration. Most people who attain blue chakra end up trying to close their third eye or going into paranoid psychosis at some point.

            To elaborate further: Imagine as a Christian you learn that your living god is actually a predator that uses addiction frequencies to mind jack you. This being beams visions of your ancestors and loved ones living in rapture into your brain while corrupting every message your true Messiah spoke. When you die, it traps your soul and harvests all the memories and spiritual energies you've attained in your life, throwing you back into a body. Do you think the average Christian could handle scientific proof of this? Absolutely not. The social damage of disclosure would be unreal at this point in time. It is pure horror.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            nuh uh

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yuh huh

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            someday the veil will be drawn back from your eyes and you will see how wrong you were, that it wasn't so simple as you think. just remember that bitterness, resentment, and denial are what turn men into your category of demon.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds like you’ve been reading too much go nagai manga

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/oTNHIRv.jpeg

            Again, I bring up “human mental moronation compared to them.” Not even for you, since you’re lost, but I guess for the interest of other posters or lurkers here reading this. Christ, Christianity, various prophets and prophecies of the Old and New Testaments also do still have great significance and merit in all this, in my conception.

            Consider the possibility of humanity being STRONGLY PROGRAMMED. Imagine us having a profound ‘blockage’ programmed in us — which includes a raw, sheer animal fear at the sight of various:

            “magical”
            “occult”
            “esoteric”
            “conspiratorial”
            “extraterrestrial/alien”
            etc.

            phenomena, where we basically have a profound conditioning that makes us do something like (do the cross over ourselves) (call on Allah) etc… basically, revert to some fundamentalist religion conception (whether israeli, Christian, Muslim, or otherwise) when we experience mind-bending phenomena like these, and basically go, “It must be the Devil” (whether a israeli, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, indigenous shamanic, etc…. conception of such a Devil or demonic force). Imagine this as something of a blockage (perhaps even there for a good reason) implanted in us, such that we immediately and primitively revert to this reaction upon witnessing, hearing, or experiencing anything too fricked-up and way-out-there suggestive of the ‘occult’, ‘paranormal’, ‘extraterrestrial’, etc.

            Sort of like uncontacted tribes in South America and elsewhere flipping out at the sight of airplanes, helicopters, etc., and emissaries of the Western world — having their bow and arrow at the ready. And, again, maybe not even without good reason or validity — who knows how their lives would turn out with contact with more developed civilizations?

            What happened to the Native Americans when the Europeans came?

            https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-31/man-of-the-hole-death-uncontacted-tribes/101390546

            Just to make it even more clear, I still don’t mean to entirely discredit yours or anyone else’s Christian faith. There’s great merit, validity, worth, meaning and beauty in that.

            I’m just suggesting that the ‘cosmic perspective’ on this (and even other faiths) might be way more out-there than most people are willing to consider. For entirely understandable reasons.

            Ironically, the situation of people trying to ‘preach’ about things like these is almost exactly parallel to that of Christ trying to preach what he did in His day, or His followers preaching what they did. Persecution, disbelief, angry denial and disregard is closely attendant upon it. Such is our cross to bear.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >cosmic perspective

            the cosmic perspective is bunk when you have a bunch of shadowy beings doing silly rape crap and messing with people constantly. they lie, they kill, they seem to accept or pursue animal/human mutliations with the same drive as the sacrifices, etc.

            the idea that hybrids are a threat is silly to me, that's exactly what the nephilim are. they already got drowned. so far I haven't heard anything proving they're remotely sci-fi. nephilim tech is something else.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What people think are "alien abductions" are a cover for government and cult mind control programming. Screen memories of aliens in case they begin to remember what has been done to them. There does exist "UFO" advanced flying technology that has been developed for a long time. The idea of space aliens also helps to cover these up in case of sightings. The 'big secret', what is actually being hidden so fiercely by those in power, is the reality of what they are doing, what is behind all of this. Literal industrial-scale ritual abuse, torture, trafficking, MKULTRA/MONARCH trauma-based mind control programming, and Nazi-inspired genetic and surgical experiments/mutilation in government labs/deep underground military bases of children and adults alike. Agencies like NASA, CIA, NSA are involved in this under their covers and fronts. Many will refuse to listen or believe that humans could be so cruel, so insane, and could do such vile things to children. This is one reason why these topics, like Satanic/Luciferian cult ritual abuse and trauma-based mind control, continue to stay in the dark. It is the reality though. Children are trafficked, raped, and tortured to death by those in power; the cults and governments. Children are being genetically tortured and made to look like 'aliens'. Children are having their minds shattered at birth through extreme trauma and reprogrammed as government slaves.

      Almost all of these people and "UFO researchers" are either in on the cover-up, misled and lied to, or victims themselves. Intelligence agencies are one of the biggest users of mind control. Many intelligence personnel and agents are programmed to believe in aliens. They will fully believe it's real through mind control programming. Many are also shown faked Top Secret government documents talking about aliens. They will believe it, coming from their superiors in government. When people are "following disclosure", they are literally just listening to disinformation agents, paid liars, and mind control victims say what they are instructed or programmed to. There is no such thing as actual 'disclosure'. They will never admit what has been happening, what they have been doing. That would be the end for them, no matter what, and they know this. Research the people running the government and these kind of programs. Aliens from outer space are not driving to this planet in their spaceships, kidnapping people, using them for mind control slavery and performing medical experiments on them, and then returning them. People are doing exactly this, and have been for a very long time. This is known. This is the reason why it's intergenerational. This is the reason for the secrecy. This is the reason for the reported genetic experiments and fetus stealing. It's mind control and illegal human experimentation on a massive, worldwide scale.

      Read this post for a shitload of extremely relevant information and links:

      https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/467515589
      https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/467515589
      https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/467515589

      They might both exist simultaneously.

      I know on this Earth we’re easily traumatized, desensitized, and made cynical. So maybe the sentimental conception of “star children” might make us want to gag, or want to vomit. Maybe even rightly so. But it still might be true, at the same time fricked-up things like cattle mutilation by ETs, and even human mutilation by ETs might be true.

      Common symptoms of actually, genuinely, seriously, unironically learning about the ET presence, their interaction and history with humanity and on the Earth, and the real-life implications of this, might be hysterical dramatics in one’s own personal life for a while, weepiness, profound symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), heavy drinking, and then cutting back on the heavy drinking out of horror and embarrassment out of what one might start saying (or writing) while super drunk about all this, and other people in one’s life (close friends and family) equally horrified and/or embarrassed reactions, as well as suggesting you have mental health issues or even wanting to institutionalize you. It’s THAT dramatic. Embarrassing, really. And even almost in a way darkly funny. Like a Kubrick film or something.

      [...]
      [...]
      This could be true at the same time a genuine bona-fife ET/UFO presence and existence is true. I’ve gone deep into this, being traumatized by Fritz Springmeier’s and Cathy O’Brien’s and others’ works and accounts of such MK-Ultra/Monarch and affiliated projects, as well as by accounts of UFO and ET encounters.

      This includes some of these personal experiences with UFOs and ETs, which also further included undeniable instances of ESP (extrasensory perception) or externally-induced experiences of clairvoyance and telepathy which were undoubtedly proven to be true in my own personal life-experience, although of course I can’t fully and perfectly transmit the truth of these experiences to anyone else, without them having also been there to experience it.

      I believe both more benevolent and more malevolent extraterrestrial species exist in contact with humanity, as well as dark shadow government projects which include such mind-control/brainwashing experimentation, some of which almost certainly even includes the corrupt government agents disguising themselves as such ETs/UFOs, a possible Project Blue Beam in the works or something like, and the like.

      Another disturbing (yet almost certainly true) implication of it is that HUMANS ARE BASICALLY SEEN AS moronic IN COMPARISON TO THEM. We are to them as mentally moronic humans, animals, and/or starving and war-torn or genocide-torn Africans and Middle Easterners are seen to us (relatively healthy, well-educated, privileged and intelligent Westerners or first-world citizens). Seriously. It’s THAT bad. However, I despair of even being able to get this across to anyone — the absolute chasm between us and them, and the profundity of even fleeting consciously remembered encounters with them.

      In a way, it’s almost like an HP Lovecraft story. And maybe for the reason that even figures like HP Lovecraft were semiconsciously also interacting with them or inspired by them, besides other more or less well-known figures. We’d have to rewrite our whole conception of literature, pop culture, mass media, current events, history and politics if we knew of their existence and its serious ramifications. I don’t know what else to say.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ah yes, more talk and anecdotes and that's what I'm tolds. This is going to go on forever

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We are playthings. The earth isn't a prison, it's a playground. We keep coming back time and time again, each new run more creatively cruel than the next.

    Ever see young children crashing their toy cars and dismembering their dolls? Hurting small animals?

    It's all a sick joke for the amusement of bored immortal beings. Ceasing to exist would indeed be a much better fate than having to hop on this hellcoaster again and again.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      lazy imitation of gnosticism. the whole prison planet, reptilian archon narrative, blah blah, just a recycling of already lame gnostic mytho. aliens are demons if they're just peddling reheated crap from the time of Christ. they don't learn new tricks well.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What people think are "alien abductions" are a cover for government and cult mind control programming. Screen memories of aliens in case they begin to remember what has been done to them. There does exist "UFO" advanced flying technology that has been developed for a long time. The idea of space aliens also helps to cover these up in case of sightings. The 'big secret', what is actually being hidden so fiercely by those in power, is the reality of what they are doing, what is behind all of this. Literal industrial-scale ritual abuse, torture, trafficking, MKULTRA/MONARCH trauma-based mind control programming, and Nazi-inspired genetic and surgical experiments/mutilation in government labs/deep underground military bases of children and adults alike. Agencies like NASA, CIA, NSA are involved in this under their covers and fronts. Many will refuse to listen or believe that humans could be so cruel, so insane, and could do such vile things to children. This is one reason why these topics, like Satanic/Luciferian cult ritual abuse and trauma-based mind control, continue to stay in the dark. It is the reality though. Children are trafficked, raped, and tortured to death by those in power; the cults and governments. Children are being genetically tortured and made to look like 'aliens'. Children are having their minds shattered at birth through extreme trauma and reprogrammed as government slaves.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Almost all of these people and "UFO researchers" are either in on the cover-up, misled and lied to, or victims themselves. Intelligence agencies are one of the biggest users of mind control. Many intelligence personnel and agents are programmed to believe in aliens. They will fully believe it's real through mind control programming. Many are also shown faked Top Secret government documents talking about aliens. They will believe it, coming from their superiors in government. When people are "following disclosure", they are literally just listening to disinformation agents, paid liars, and mind control victims say what they are instructed or programmed to. There is no such thing as actual 'disclosure'. They will never admit what has been happening, what they have been doing. That would be the end for them, no matter what, and they know this. Research the people running the government and these kind of programs. Aliens from outer space are not driving to this planet in their spaceships, kidnapping people, using them for mind control slavery and performing medical experiments on them, and then returning them. People are doing exactly this, and have been for a very long time. This is known. This is the reason why it's intergenerational. This is the reason for the secrecy. This is the reason for the reported genetic experiments and fetus stealing. It's mind control and illegal human experimentation on a massive, worldwide scale.

      Read this post for a shitload of extremely relevant information and links:

      https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/467515589
      https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/467515589
      https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/467515589

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        anon while some of what you say may be accurate, it is my belief UFO abductions are not only an MKULTRA thing. I believe it’s part of the abductions but also believe it’s part alien.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Almost all of these people and "UFO researchers" are either in on the cover-up, misled and lied to, or victims themselves. Intelligence agencies are one of the biggest users of mind control. Many intelligence personnel and agents are programmed to believe in aliens. They will fully believe it's real through mind control programming. Many are also shown faked Top Secret government documents talking about aliens. They will believe it, coming from their superiors in government. When people are "following disclosure", they are literally just listening to disinformation agents, paid liars, and mind control victims say what they are instructed or programmed to. There is no such thing as actual 'disclosure'. They will never admit what has been happening, what they have been doing. That would be the end for them, no matter what, and they know this. Research the people running the government and these kind of programs. Aliens from outer space are not driving to this planet in their spaceships, kidnapping people, using them for mind control slavery and performing medical experiments on them, and then returning them. People are doing exactly this, and have been for a very long time. This is known. This is the reason why it's intergenerational. This is the reason for the secrecy. This is the reason for the reported genetic experiments and fetus stealing. It's mind control and illegal human experimentation on a massive, worldwide scale.

      Read this post for a shitload of extremely relevant information and links:

      https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/467515589
      https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/467515589
      https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/467515589

      I'm well aware of human sacrifices, moloch (frick moloch btw - he is a homosexual) adrenochrome and all of that. But.

      If human mutilations are solely done by government agencies and they want to cover it up, why do they dump mutilated bodies of animals and humans? It doesnt make sense
      check out badaliens.info site

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Almost all of these people and "UFO researchers" are either in on the cover-up, misled and lied to, or victims themselves. Intelligence agencies are one of the biggest users of mind control. Many intelligence personnel and agents are programmed to believe in aliens. They will fully believe it's real through mind control programming. Many are also shown faked Top Secret government documents talking about aliens. They will believe it, coming from their superiors in government. When people are "following disclosure", they are literally just listening to disinformation agents, paid liars, and mind control victims say what they are instructed or programmed to. There is no such thing as actual 'disclosure'. They will never admit what has been happening, what they have been doing. That would be the end for them, no matter what, and they know this. Research the people running the government and these kind of programs. Aliens from outer space are not driving to this planet in their spaceships, kidnapping people, using them for mind control slavery and performing medical experiments on them, and then returning them. People are doing exactly this, and have been for a very long time. This is known. This is the reason why it's intergenerational. This is the reason for the secrecy. This is the reason for the reported genetic experiments and fetus stealing. It's mind control and illegal human experimentation on a massive, worldwide scale.

      Read this post for a shitload of extremely relevant information and links:

      https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/467515589
      https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/467515589
      https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/467515589

      Good stuff, thanks for making these posts anon

  6. 1 month ago
    RON_MEXICO_BWC

    Human mutilation happens without a doubt. More than the world’s governments let on. Here is a good YouTube documentary about it that is constantly being taken down:

    ?si=LMPXru61D-MXJ-hE

    And as always, https://badaliens.info

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Aye, and there is even more info on that on site
      theorionlines.com and in book "Giant Eusocial Insectoids and their Anthrop Symbiontss" by Edward Agon

      What people think are "alien abductions" are a cover for government and cult mind control programming. Screen memories of aliens in case they begin to remember what has been done to them. There does exist "UFO" advanced flying technology that has been developed for a long time. The idea of space aliens also helps to cover these up in case of sightings. The 'big secret', what is actually being hidden so fiercely by those in power, is the reality of what they are doing, what is behind all of this. Literal industrial-scale ritual abuse, torture, trafficking, MKULTRA/MONARCH trauma-based mind control programming, and Nazi-inspired genetic and surgical experiments/mutilation in government labs/deep underground military bases of children and adults alike. Agencies like NASA, CIA, NSA are involved in this under their covers and fronts. Many will refuse to listen or believe that humans could be so cruel, so insane, and could do such vile things to children. This is one reason why these topics, like Satanic/Luciferian cult ritual abuse and trauma-based mind control, continue to stay in the dark. It is the reality though. Children are trafficked, raped, and tortured to death by those in power; the cults and governments. Children are being genetically tortured and made to look like 'aliens'. Children are having their minds shattered at birth through extreme trauma and reprogrammed as government slaves.

      They might both exist simultaneously.

      I know on this Earth we’re easily traumatized, desensitized, and made cynical. So maybe the sentimental conception of “star children” might make us want to gag, or want to vomit. Maybe even rightly so. But it still might be true, at the same time fricked-up things like cattle mutilation by ETs, and even human mutilation by ETs might be true.

      Common symptoms of actually, genuinely, seriously, unironically learning about the ET presence, their interaction and history with humanity and on the Earth, and the real-life implications of this, might be hysterical dramatics in one’s own personal life for a while, weepiness, profound symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), heavy drinking, and then cutting back on the heavy drinking out of horror and embarrassment out of what one might start saying (or writing) while super drunk about all this, and other people in one’s life (close friends and family) equally horrified and/or embarrassed reactions, as well as suggesting you have mental health issues or even wanting to institutionalize you. It’s THAT dramatic. Embarrassing, really. And even almost in a way darkly funny. Like a Kubrick film or something.

      [...]
      [...]
      This could be true at the same time a genuine bona-fife ET/UFO presence and existence is true. I’ve gone deep into this, being traumatized by Fritz Springmeier’s and Cathy O’Brien’s and others’ works and accounts of such MK-Ultra/Monarch and affiliated projects, as well as by accounts of UFO and ET encounters.

      Whether mutilations were done by government, aliens or both it will be interesting to hear what government have to say about it. ofc when they move past thinking that abduction is the worst thing that can happen from a flying saucer

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    oh my god you guys, profound indifference is so spoopy.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Masters' extratempestrial hypothesis

    QRD?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why do people listen to this homosexual who pulls the "i know but i cant tell" line like every other one of these grifters. they are c) ALL OF THE (AS) ABOVE (SO BELOW). they are aliens, time travellers, spirits of the dead, angels and demons, dwarves and elves and djinn. gods and antigods, projections, inhabitants of the dream realm. they are physical and non-physical. our reality is a slice of a broader continuum. this world is where they grow. death is birth. birth is death. they are the ones behind the veil, the otherworld. material, materia, mater, matter, maya, mother, mama, mommy. the womb of the material. the place of birth and death. no distinction between fertility cults and death cults. the dome of heaven and world axis--the belly of a pregnant woman with navel at the center. incubation is the name of the game. grown here for something else--war is what is written.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      nah, just demons

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        nah, just (human label here)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is what I've found. All supernatural / celestial / occult / religious stuff is consciousness related as its all a play on the same exact idea; non human entities that exist in the physical (reality) and the metaphysical (living creative energies of the world and of our mind). Why do you need drugs to communicate with machine elves / rainbow serpents? Same reason you need drugs to communicate with demons & Gods during invocation rituals, you're shifting frequency & finding yourself in between two channels of consciousness interspersed with "static", aka abnormal frequencies. This is also where the possession / body sharing shit comes from, you can commune between one another without invading the other's biologies if the entity isn't malevolent. We're radio receivers, barbie dolls with electromagnetic pin points all over our body. We can be shut down, eaten, tortured, reprogrammed, mixed & matched, lived inside of, etc. What reasonable government would let the people know that, knowing the panic that would ensue knowing we are so helpless we aren't even the sole controllers of our own bodies?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    “Aliens” LUL

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because yeah the government can’t make their own fricking cows, they need to experiment on the cows of farmers (oh and in public) all over the world

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    And anyway, entirely unrelatedly, here’s a fricking great instrumental song, “Theme From Burnt Weeny Sandwich”, by Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention. Nothing really to do with aliens or UFOs, except that Frank made another song (where he also played a great guitar solo) called “Inca Roads” that was simultaneously a parody of some prog-rock of the time and of interest in UFOs and extraterrestrials, who (aliens/UFOs) are jokingly mentioned in the lyrics (of Inca Roads, not this song, which is entirely instrumental).

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  12. 1 month ago
    METEYA

    > And beyond just “all aliens being demons.”
    This is categorically true. There are no sapient physical aliens present in Earth's Universe, we ARE the First Ones. NHIs are beings that live in other dimensions and are capable of mind control and trapping souls into vicious reincarnation cycles where all of the soul's energies are harvested at death. Some are capable of driving ships into our dimension. Insight into the astral without any capacity to force change on it is an exercise in absolute fear and frustration. Most people who attain blue chakra end up trying to close their third eye or going into paranoid psychosis at some point.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Hey so do aliens exist?
    >Maybe lol.
    >Do videos of aliens exist?
    Well I dunno, maybe lmfao.
    If he were answering here he'd be called a Black person homosexual for not giving concrete answers and get called a larper, rightfully so, the only question he did answer directly was that ball lightning and reptilians are confirmed to exist, but we've known that since the 70s thanks to the Italian case, he could just be bullshitting for all we know.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the Los Pelacaras incidents in Peru were real

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      and by real i mean not illegal miners on jetpacks, that's fricking moronic as shit but the whole world ate it up and the story died

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      and by real i mean not illegal miners on jetpacks, that's fricking moronic as shit but the whole world ate it up and the story died

      Yeah alot of people are poisoned with finding "rational explanation" but fortunately some of them still care about truth. Watch this if you didnt see it :

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He is just restating ayylmao lore
    Also skinny bob is fake af and if you can't see that I don't know what to say to you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The way "Bob" blinking looks fake but I saw explanation that it looks like this because so called Greys are biological androids

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The fake zooming around when he's walking makes it obvious
        Convincing panning in CGI is impossible

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >IT APPEARS MY SUPERIORITY HAS CAUSED SOME CONTROVERSY

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Well, the entropy is always increasing and so the recourses of the universe are scarce, in the end, right? So, as a civilization you obviously want to endure as long as possible, thats why you can’t tolerate any competition in the long run. So one day, they will simply wipe us out of existence.. shouldn’t be too hard, just steer a huge ass asteroid our way or whatever. But why are we still here, breathing and procreating? - too see if come up with anything useful, like, they seem to be interested in our nukes, right? So what if they just didn’t come up with the idea? it’s pretty low tech, but a thermonuclear bomb definitely is impressive. Maybe they just want to see what other solutions we come up with. Something they just didn’t think of. Maybe they even triggered technical development here and there by giving us, idk, the transistor for example? Perhaps they are creating hybrids, probe and mutilate people just to see what it leads to, like just frick around and see where it takes us. But in the end of the day, they will either lose interest or we will advance too far, like developing ai or selfreplicating nanites, then they will simply wipe us out, without remorse.

    tl;dr We are nothing but an ant farm and have been doomed the moment they found us. No way out, it’s hopeless.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Btw, when people talking about “archons“ harvesting our “loosh“, it’s highly symbolic, not metaphysical. What is actually meant is that they are harvesting our ideas, our creativity and in a way, everything that drives us. Our hopes and dreams. Our will to create a better future, travel to the stars… monroe didn’t fully understand how much his “astral“ is linked to our unconsciousness and is therefore symbolic

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Btw, when people talking about “archons“ harvesting our “loosh“, it’s highly symbolic, not metaphysical.

        If it was symbolic then they could synthetize their precious adrenochrome - given the technology they got. But instead we finding out a shit like this in remote areas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxSka_vl6Gc

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Its symbolic in the sense that our governments are "loosh" harvesters too. They harvest our fears, worries, comforts, joys through propaganda, analytics, and statistics to then hook it up to their Matrix, the social system. Our energies & emotions are most definitely harvested via entertainment, news, television, warfare, tragedy, etc. if it happens on our little Earth colony amongst ourselves, it most definitely is practiced by entities higher up on the food chain, so high the masses cannot even recognize their existence.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >So one day, they will simply wipe us out of existence.. shouldn’t be too hard, just steer a huge ass asteroid our way or whatever.
      A massive geological & population “reset” may indeed be a possibility. Sort of like apocalypses or apocalyptic events in all manner of mythologies and religious scriptures. Look how many ones a great Flood shows up in, for instance, then survivors repopulating the Earth:

      -the Greek legend of the Flood followed by the human survivors Deucalion and Pyrrha repopulating the Earth
      -the Flood story in the Epic of Gilgamesh with Utnapishtim surviving on a massive boat (build according to the god’s instructions) after being warned by Enki (also called Ea in Akkadian) that the gods want to wipe out and reset the human population, but Enki has sympathy for Utnapishtim and his goodness; the ship is called “the Preserver of Life”; also other exactly similar details to the Noah story like sending out birds to find dry land, bringing baby animals and grains, etc.
      -Noah and the Flood story, of course
      -Hinduism: “The current universe, is asserted to be ruled by the 7th Manu named Vaivasvata. Vaivasvata was the king of Dravida before the great flood.He was warned of the flood by the Matsya (fish) avatar of Vishnu, and built a boat that carried the Vedas, Manu's family and the seven sages to safety, helped by Matsya. The tale is repeated with variations in other texts, including the Mahabharata and a few other Puranas. It is similar to other floods such as those associated with Gilgamesh and Noah.”
      -Hopi and other indigenous Native American legends of great Floods

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >So one day, they will simply wipe us out of existence.. shouldn’t be too hard, just steer a huge ass asteroid our way or whatever.
      A massive geological & population “reset” may indeed be a possibility. Sort of like apocalypses or apocalyptic events in all manner of mythologies and religious scriptures. Look how many ones a great Flood shows up in, for instance, then survivors repopulating the Earth:

      -the Greek legend of the Flood followed by the human survivors Deucalion and Pyrrha repopulating the Earth
      -the Flood story in the Epic of Gilgamesh with Utnapishtim surviving on a massive boat (build according to the god’s instructions) after being warned by Enki (also called Ea in Akkadian) that the gods want to wipe out and reset the human population, but Enki has sympathy for Utnapishtim and his goodness; the ship is called “the Preserver of Life”; also other exactly similar details to the Noah story like sending out birds to find dry land, bringing baby animals and grains, etc.
      -Noah and the Flood story, of course
      -Hinduism: “The current universe, is asserted to be ruled by the 7th Manu named Vaivasvata. Vaivasvata was the king of Dravida before the great flood.He was warned of the flood by the Matsya (fish) avatar of Vishnu, and built a boat that carried the Vedas, Manu's family and the seven sages to safety, helped by Matsya. The tale is repeated with variations in other texts, including the Mahabharata and a few other Puranas. It is similar to other floods such as those associated with Gilgamesh and Noah.”
      -Hopi and other indigenous Native American legends of great Floods

      >nukes
      If they’re here and the relationship is so relatively one-sided on their end (i.e. THEY decide whether we get to see them or not, and we can’t tell where they come from besides what they show or tell us), besides many sightings of their craft moving in ways impossible according to our modern understanding of physics (instant acceleration and tremendous g-forces that would destroy anyone in there, according to our understanding of biology, movements which could also suggest antigravity; also transmedium craft that seem viable underwater, aerially, and in space), then I doubt they’re less advanced than us such that they’d find thermonuclear weaponry surprising. I’m certain they have the capacity for that and more, but maybe wisely have regulations not to use them, and monitor us and our nukes because they are afraid of what we could do to ourselves. (A possible galactic humanitarian mission?) They also might be afraid of humans spreading out beyond our planet and bringing nukes with us. We could still be way less advanced than them while still having the capability to be a massive hassle towards them.

      >Maybe they even triggered technical development here and there by giving us, idk, the transistor for example?
      This is possible. There’s some speculation and claims about this (particularly centered on Bell Labs/AT&T, IBM, and other early well-known tech companies) in books from the Montauk books to The Day of Celestial Visitation by Ernest P. Moyer (who I believe worked at Bell Labs).

      >Perhaps they are creating hybrids, probe and mutilate people just to see what it leads to, like just frick around and see where it takes us.
      They might be doing that. Not all, but perhaps some more malevolently oriented ones or just ones relatively indifferent to us and in it for their own interests.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      >nukes
      If they’re here and the relationship is so relatively one-sided on their end (i.e. THEY decide whether we get to see them or not, and we can’t tell where they come from besides what they show or tell us), besides many sightings of their craft moving in ways impossible according to our modern understanding of physics (instant acceleration and tremendous g-forces that would destroy anyone in there, according to our understanding of biology, movements which could also suggest antigravity; also transmedium craft that seem viable underwater, aerially, and in space), then I doubt they’re less advanced than us such that they’d find thermonuclear weaponry surprising. I’m certain they have the capacity for that and more, but maybe wisely have regulations not to use them, and monitor us and our nukes because they are afraid of what we could do to ourselves. (A possible galactic humanitarian mission?) They also might be afraid of humans spreading out beyond our planet and bringing nukes with us. We could still be way less advanced than them while still having the capability to be a massive hassle towards them.

      >Maybe they even triggered technical development here and there by giving us, idk, the transistor for example?
      This is possible. There’s some speculation and claims about this (particularly centered on Bell Labs/AT&T, IBM, and other early well-known tech companies) in books from the Montauk books to The Day of Celestial Visitation by Ernest P. Moyer (who I believe worked at Bell Labs).

      >Perhaps they are creating hybrids, probe and mutilate people just to see what it leads to, like just frick around and see where it takes us.
      They might be doing that. Not all, but perhaps some more malevolently oriented ones or just ones relatively indifferent to us and in it for their own interests.

      >But in the end of the day, they will either lose interest or we will advance too far, like developing ai or selfreplicating nanites, then they will simply wipe us out, without remorse.
      Speculative, but possible. Some of these more malevolent or indifferent ones might also be the ones BEHIND such things like inspiring advanced AI/self-replicating nanites etc.

      >tl;dr We are nothing but an ant farm and have been doomed the moment they found us. No way out, it’s hopeless.
      Maybe, but I think it’s as yet immature to make sweeping pessimistic statements like these. Who knows, maybe that’s what “They” (the possible bad ones) want, and would be happy if we were so pessimistic, while other benevolent ones are against this? Maybe we’re considered something like a cosmically endangered species (or even endangered planet), and just like on Earth, some are the poachers, corporations and criminals helping speed this along, while others are the ones with humanitarian (animal-itarian? in the analogy of us of helping endangered species) intentions wanting to stop this.

      Btw, when people talking about “archons“ harvesting our “loosh“, it’s highly symbolic, not metaphysical. What is actually meant is that they are harvesting our ideas, our creativity and in a way, everything that drives us. Our hopes and dreams. Our will to create a better future, travel to the stars… monroe didn’t fully understand how much his “astral“ is linked to our unconsciousness and is therefore symbolic

      >Btw, when people talking about “archons“ harvesting our “loosh“, it’s highly symbolic, not metaphysical. What is actually meant is that they are harvesting our ideas, our creativity and in a way, everything that drives us. Our hopes and dreams. Our will to create a better future, travel to the stars… monroe didn’t fully understand how much his “astral“ is linked to our unconsciousness and is therefore symbolic
      The symbolic and the metaphysical might precisely overlap in this subtler realms or higher dimensions. Like Jung’s archetypes or the conception of the Platonic forms. We might be something like lower-dimensional cross-sections of that higher reality, and journeying in those higher realms might be something that simultaneously fuses the “symbolic” and the “metaphysical” from our viewpoint.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Maybe we’re considered something like a cosmically endangered species (or even endangered planet), and just like on Earth, some are the poachers, corporations and criminals helping speed this along, while others are the ones with humanitarian (animal-itarian? in the analogy of us of helping endangered species) intentions wanting to stop this.

        https://eraoflight.com/2022/08/26/hakann-how-were-earthlings-created/

        maybe

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Actually just recently proven that entropy only increases in non information systems. Information systems on the other hand decrease entropy. Look at planet formation, star formation, life formation etc. Not my opinion but has been scientifically proven in biology. Physicists are now currently trying to figure how to apply it to our knowledge of physics today.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Aliens do not "abduct". At least not in the pop culture way. Being laid on a table, probed, bright light, returned home safely, etc. They did a study on people who experienced alien abductions and discovered something like 90% of them were c-section babies. The theory being that they're experiencing a fleeting memory of their birth. An alien has no incentive to return you safely and it's more likely they keep a small group of humans as pets for study

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, its just like how we tag wild creatures / sea-life & return them back for scientific purposes. There is no data collection if they only chose one group of homo-sapiens from one generation to extract data from. If we only studied the animals we hold captive in our zoos, we would know about half of what we know about the animal kingdom. they return us safely because, otherwise, you create hiccups in your data & forfeit your lab rat on day one of data extraction after its first experiment-- at that point, the risk outweighs the reward, especially when you want to make yourself as unknown as possible because a) you're a supernatural being that resembles a satanic evil demon thing (bc thats what they are, they existed before that moniker of them with all its implications was invented) & b) the less we trigger-happy psycho fricks know about them, the better for them. especially if they want to come back in a couple years & reveal we're their Earth-exterior clone colony & they're the 'underworld' Earth-interior colony creators. The longer they have to study us & integrate / naturalize us, the less hub-bub & specimen they have to kill if we rebel against their "New World Order". Remember this end of speech quote? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb1_J_LEDpQ

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It’s demons. It’s a meme at this point but that is the truth. It’s demons.

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