Quick Experiment That Works Like Magic (Intent Alone Affects The Mind & Body)

1. Watch the video first before reading the text below it (VERY IMPORTANT)
2. Set the video to full screen (so there's no distractions and nothing ruins the experiment).
3. Watch The Video, & Follow The Instructions While Watching (It's 11 Minutes).

I have spent years trying to find something like this, and I only just stumbled upon it by chance when I was about to go to sleep yesterday (pure luck).

No meditating for 1 hour in an asana position required.

No Semen Retention / NoFap for 30 days required.

No BS "just trust me bro, and do this thing for 5 to 10 years and maybe you'll get a sign/result" nonsense being said (blind cult follower type doctrine).

It simply just works, and what makes this amazing and paranormal, is that you are controlling it just with your thoughts, just your intent alone.

You can even start and stop the phenomena like an on and off switch, with just your intent to do so, it's crazy (you'll know what I'm talking about if you watched the video first, which is what you were advised to do).

The reason why I said to watch the video first is so that you could remove all self doubt of the phenomena only taking place because your mind was primed for it prior to the video. It's a better experience if it works "spontaneously".

This experiment just magnifies the potential for things like self hypnosis to be used for self improvement in various aspects of life, from quitting habits, to getting rid of phobias, etc.

Which makes me start to wonder, why the hell isn't there a "/hyp/ - Hypnosis General"?

It would be a lot more useful than most of the garbage generals I see on this forum filled with mentally ill and delusional people that would ironically benefit a lot from self hypnosis.

If you know of a LEGIT (used by you successfully) self hypnosis guide, post it.

If you know of similar experiments, post them.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He lost me at the finger exercise.

    >Hypnosis is, like, when you think positive
    lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >He lost me at the finger exercise.
      What do you mean?

      >Hypnosis is, like, when you think positive
      He didn't say that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >What do you mean?
        It didn't work. It's bullshit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It didn't work. It's bullshit.
          Oh well I'm sorry for you, it worked for me perfectly, first thing I ever tried that worked. I've even done it multiple times long after I've watched the video and it still amazes me.

          Are you sure you followed the instructions. It's really not about him giving the suggestion, it's about you BELIEVING and most importantly WANTING it to happen.

          Like I said in the OP:

          https://i.imgur.com/Melou0d.jpeg

          1. Watch the video first before reading the text below it (VERY IMPORTANT)
          2. Set the video to full screen (so there's no distractions and nothing ruins the experiment).
          3. Watch The Video, & Follow The Instructions While Watching (It's 11 Minutes).

          I have spent years trying to find something like this, and I only just stumbled upon it by chance when I was about to go to sleep yesterday (pure luck).

          No meditating for 1 hour in an asana position required.

          No Semen Retention / NoFap for 30 days required.

          No BS "just trust me bro, and do this thing for 5 to 10 years and maybe you'll get a sign/result" nonsense being said (blind cult follower type doctrine).

          It simply just works, and what makes this amazing and paranormal, is that you are controlling it just with your thoughts, just your intent alone.

          You can even start and stop the phenomena like an on and off switch, with just your intent to do so, it's crazy (you'll know what I'm talking about if you watched the video first, which is what you were advised to do).

          The reason why I said to watch the video first is so that you could remove all self doubt of the phenomena only taking place because your mind was primed for it prior to the video. It's a better experience if it works "spontaneously".

          This experiment just magnifies the potential for things like self hypnosis to be used for self improvement in various aspects of life, from quitting habits, to getting rid of phobias, etc.

          Which makes me start to wonder, why the hell isn't there a "/hyp/ - Hypnosis General"?

          It would be a lot more useful than most of the garbage generals I see on this forum filled with mentally ill and delusional people that would ironically benefit a lot from self hypnosis.

          If you know of a LEGIT (used by you successfully) self hypnosis guide, post it.

          If you know of similar experiments, post them.

          >You can even start and stop the phenomena like an on and off switch, with just your intent to do so, it's crazy (you'll know what I'm talking about if you watched the video first, which is what you were advised to do).

          I'm doing the thing with my fingers right now, stopping it midway and my fingers stop coming together, and then starting it again and they begin moving. All you have to do is look at your fingers and change your intent/desire, and your body obeys.

          Maybe it doesn't work for you because you actually don't want it to work, and you don't give a frick about it working. I have to think this, because I'm a huge skeptic and this thing works without me even having to try, it's instant.

          I've tried it using two middle fingers, two thumbs, I even tried it with the index of my left and the and middle of my right hand, etc. It works regardless of which fingers you do it with.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >first thing I ever tried that worked
            Are you joking? If you put your fingers in a stress position like that, they will eventually touch. If they touch beforehand, you're choosing to make them touch.

            >most importantly WANTING it to happen
            If I want to touch my fingers together, I touch my fingers together. Why does this blow your mind?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >your body obeys
            Yeah, non-paralyzed people can control their own bodies. Is this news to you?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Yeah, non-paralyzed people can control their own bodies. Is this news to you?
            I think you are talking about active physical movement, it can't be that you did the experiment and you still don't get it.

            Or maybe it didn't work for you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >active physical movement
            Any movement is either 'active' or mechanical. There is no third option.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > All you have to do is look at your fingers and change your intent/desire, and your body obeys.

            just some points to critique:

            1. what happens, if you put the intent of having 2 magnets on each side, pulling them apart
            2. we do control the body, all over, with intents. when you stand up, you intend to stand up, its no accident. when you move your fingers to type a comment on here, its also not by accident, but you intend to do that.

            > No meditating for 1 hour in an asana position required.
            > No Semen Retention / NoFap for 30 days required.
            > No BS "just trust me bro, and do this thing for 5 to 10 years and maybe you'll get a sign/result" nonsense being said (blind cult follower type doctrine).

            you are a pathetic subhuman, aren't you?
            you are probably of the group, who took Ozempic instead of working out and having a clean diet.

            all i say to the likes of you is:
            kys
            if you are about cutting corners, go your your life short!

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >actual instructions don't start until 4:50 of an 11 minute video
    what a fricking blowhard

    Also, the fingers did slightly move inward, but I was able to resist motion, so they remained apart.

    After a little analysis, it appears to be because as you try to pull away, as you try to resist the imaginary rubber band magnet pull, what you actually do is pull your two palms apart, but that moves your fingers closer together due to lever action. Which is why my technique of "just stop moving" prevented it, and why if you focus on keeping your fingers pulled back rather than pulled apart from each other, despite it being the same motion, there's no resistance other than their natural desire to return to flat.

    I wouldn't call this so much hypnotism as mentalism.

    he is right about how affective placebo effect is on confidence and better decision making.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *effective
      damn autocorrect

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >what a fricking blowhard
      Yes, and I thought about just getting a youtube link that starts at that point, but it's better for people to get the whole experience.

      >but I was able to resist motion, so they remained apart.
      I kinda feel like you are trolling me right now, because you do know that's how hypnosis works right. If you resist the motion it will stop, that's how it's supposed to work lol.

      The fact that you even had a motion to resist is the point. Why the hell would just looking at your fingers and wanting them to come together even make your body move involuntarily like that. That's the crazy part.

      >After a little analysis, it appears to be because as you try to pull away, as you try to resist the imaginary rubber band magnet pull, what you actually do is pull your two palms apart, but that moves your fingers closer together due to lever action.
      No lol, you're not supposed to try and resist, that's the point. Who the hell told you to resist lol.

      >first thing I ever tried that worked
      Are you joking? If you put your fingers in a stress position like that, they will eventually touch. If they touch beforehand, you're choosing to make them touch.

      >most importantly WANTING it to happen
      If I want to touch my fingers together, I touch my fingers together. Why does this blow your mind?

      >Are you joking? If you put your fingers in a stress position like that, they will eventually touch.
      What do you mean by that?, I was able to start and stop and movement process at will.

      Also, you don't have to use the stress position or both hands. I've held my left hand up palms open, and wanted my hand to close, and my fingers started to move down and curl inwards. Though it was a process of tiny jolted movements.

      >If I want to touch my fingers together, I touch my fingers together. Why does this blow your mind?
      Again, you are being vague, are you talking about physically and voluntarily moving fingers together (active muscle movement), or like in the video where you just look at your fingers and they move on their own?

      If it's the latter, that should blow your mind, because it's your body doing a specific action with you just wanting it, rather than you doing the physical movement itself.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >are you talking about physically and voluntarily moving fingers together (active muscle movement), or like in the video where you just look at your fingers and they move on their own?
        There are only two possible reasons for them to touch: (i) because they are in a position under tension so will eventually come together as your muscles tire; or (2) your brain is telling them to move together. That's it. There's no magic to this horseshit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        decided to just completely ignore the part of my comment where i explain physically how it works, eh?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I wouldn't call this so much hypnotism as mentalism.
      You're correct, this in hypnosis is known as suggestibility test and it lets the hypnotist know how quickly and effectively the subject will respond to the whole process during the actual hypnosis. When we encounter someone who doesn't show results during a suggestibility test we discard them, they'll most likely sabotage the hypnosis by probing the process rather than following it.

      Also, i'm talking about stage hypnosis, in clinical and street/amateur hypnosis the suggestibility test isn't typically used because during clinical hypnosis the hypnotist can take their time with the induction and in street hypnosis the hypnotist can just jump to a different person if they find a "dud".

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        "Suggestibility" just means the audience member doesn't want to frick up your little 'experiment' by being difficult.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not really, that's just part of having common sense and follow the hypnotist's instructions if you willingly decide to participate. What decides the grade of suggestibility is attention span for the most part, it's difficult to hypnotize drunk people and kids for this reason.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >follow the hypnotist's instructions
            Yes, if they decide to follow the hypnotist's instructions, then the instructions will be followed. They're humoring you. Drunk people and kids have fewer inhibitions and hence care less about whether your 'act' goes smoothly.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think you understand how hypnosis works. If hypnosis was that type of ordinary exchange flash inductions wouldn't work, and they do. Honestly, as someone who's been practicing for 15 years it always boggles me how people still act like hypnosis is some sort of disingenuous play.

            To me it feels like hearing someone say that the earth is at the center of the universe.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Hypnotism denial
            Kek, it's amazing how moronic some people can be.

            I'm not denying hypnosis, I'm calling bullshit on the guy in the video. His 'finger exercise' is nonsense.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well i just told you that's not hypnosis, it's a suggestibility test that's usually performed before the hypnosis.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Hypnotism denial
            Kek, it's amazing how moronic some people can be.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sounds culty, no thanks.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good thread OP, share what you got and for the anon claiming it’s all bullshit, glow harder. The experiment works. Can’t believe the audience was so rude. This guy rocks and yes hypnotism is real durrrrr

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The experiment works.
      It's a crock of shit and you know it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You fed boys are fricked, would you like to know why hmmm?

        >for the anon claiming it’s all bullshit, glow harder
        I'm a paranoid person so on some level I'm thinking it's some guy trying to derail and prevent others from finding and researching things that work, but I try to be more rational and I think it's just the more likely scenario that there's just some person who this sadly doesn't work for, or some bored troll who wants to derail the thread for fun.

        >This guy rocks
        I immediately went looking for his ebook online. I wish he had a course or something.

        >yes hypnotism is real durrrrr
        Yeah, but like I said, why isn't there a /hyp/ - Hypnosis General on this forum, I've never seen it. It's like we have something that we can all experiment with, study, use to improve our lives, talk about to filter out nonsense, etc, but for some reason that general never gets created.

        [...]
        >your brain is telling them to move together.
        You are stating the obvious and leaving out the important part. Your brain is telling them to move together WHEN YOU WANT IT TO.

        Like I've said and I keep saying in this thread, I am able to start and stop the "coming together" movement at will. So it's not just "your brain", you are being vague and misleading.

        >There's no magic to this horseshit.
        I never said it was something occult or magical. I don't think you are reading properly. I said it "works like magic" (a figure of speech).

        I could be any more specific about what this thread is about and my meaning, you are just going out of your way to misinterpret at this point.

        [...]
        >Any movement is either 'active' or mechanical. There is no third option.
        This a huge difference between you clapping your hands, and your eyes blinking, do you get my point?

        Your body breathes passively, but you can also actively breath (manual breathing) as you are right now since you are reading this line and you are now aware of your breathing.

        [...]
        >It's a crock of shit and you know it.
        Are you sure you aren't resisting?

        It definitely is real and this guy clearly knows what he’s talking about.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You fed boys are fricked, would you like to know why hmmm?
          I'd be delighted. But first: you are under arrest for first-degree shitposting. You have the right to remain silent but are forbidden from contracting your hand muscles.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >for the anon claiming it’s all bullshit, glow harder
      I'm a paranoid person so on some level I'm thinking it's some guy trying to derail and prevent others from finding and researching things that work, but I try to be more rational and I think it's just the more likely scenario that there's just some person who this sadly doesn't work for, or some bored troll who wants to derail the thread for fun.

      >This guy rocks
      I immediately went looking for his ebook online. I wish he had a course or something.

      >yes hypnotism is real durrrrr
      Yeah, but like I said, why isn't there a /hyp/ - Hypnosis General on this forum, I've never seen it. It's like we have something that we can all experiment with, study, use to improve our lives, talk about to filter out nonsense, etc, but for some reason that general never gets created.

      >are you talking about physically and voluntarily moving fingers together (active muscle movement), or like in the video where you just look at your fingers and they move on their own?
      There are only two possible reasons for them to touch: (i) because they are in a position under tension so will eventually come together as your muscles tire; or (2) your brain is telling them to move together. That's it. There's no magic to this horseshit.

      >your brain is telling them to move together.
      You are stating the obvious and leaving out the important part. Your brain is telling them to move together WHEN YOU WANT IT TO.

      Like I've said and I keep saying in this thread, I am able to start and stop the "coming together" movement at will. So it's not just "your brain", you are being vague and misleading.

      >There's no magic to this horseshit.
      I never said it was something occult or magical. I don't think you are reading properly. I said it "works like magic" (a figure of speech).

      I could be any more specific about what this thread is about and my meaning, you are just going out of your way to misinterpret at this point.

      >active physical movement
      Any movement is either 'active' or mechanical. There is no third option.

      >Any movement is either 'active' or mechanical. There is no third option.
      This a huge difference between you clapping your hands, and your eyes blinking, do you get my point?

      Your body breathes passively, but you can also actively breath (manual breathing) as you are right now since you are reading this line and you are now aware of your breathing.

      >The experiment works.
      It's a crock of shit and you know it.

      >It's a crock of shit and you know it.
      Are you sure you aren't resisting?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Your brain is telling them to move together WHEN YOU WANT IT TO.
        Yes, we all have free control of our fingers, assuming there is no nerve damage. They will move how we want them to move, give or take.

        >This a huge difference between you clapping your hands, and your eyes blinking, do you get my point?
        Not really. You seem to have a very simplistic understanding of how the nervous system works. The body can follow instructions without involving major muscle contraction. And most instructions are not consciously deliberated over.

        >Are you sure you aren't resisting?
        If I don't resist, they come together naturally since they are separated under tension.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They will move how we want them to move, give or take.
          Yeah but nobody just spends time moving their fingers with thought alone (something I've never seen or thought about before this video). It's always "direct" movement where you physically engage the muscles in your hand.

          Why are you speaking as if your body moving by intent alone is some normal thing thought in schools, I've never even seen this shit at all before now.

          >Not really. You seem to have a very simplistic understanding of how the nervous system works. The body can follow instructions without involving major muscle contraction. And most instructions are not consciously deliberated over.
          What are you talking about, I literally gave the example about breathing which it seems like your purposefully skipped over.

          >If I don't resist, they come together naturally since they are separated under tension.
          Once again, it's like you literally aren't reading a thing I said.

          >what a fricking blowhard
          Yes, and I thought about just getting a youtube link that starts at that point, but it's better for people to get the whole experience.

          >but I was able to resist motion, so they remained apart.
          I kinda feel like you are trolling me right now, because you do know that's how hypnosis works right. If you resist the motion it will stop, that's how it's supposed to work lol.

          The fact that you even had a motion to resist is the point. Why the hell would just looking at your fingers and wanting them to come together even make your body move involuntarily like that. That's the crazy part.

          >After a little analysis, it appears to be because as you try to pull away, as you try to resist the imaginary rubber band magnet pull, what you actually do is pull your two palms apart, but that moves your fingers closer together due to lever action.
          No lol, you're not supposed to try and resist, that's the point. Who the hell told you to resist lol.

          [...]
          >Are you joking? If you put your fingers in a stress position like that, they will eventually touch.
          What do you mean by that?, I was able to start and stop and movement process at will.

          Also, you don't have to use the stress position or both hands. I've held my left hand up palms open, and wanted my hand to close, and my fingers started to move down and curl inwards. Though it was a process of tiny jolted movements.

          >If I want to touch my fingers together, I touch my fingers together. Why does this blow your mind?
          Again, you are being vague, are you talking about physically and voluntarily moving fingers together (active muscle movement), or like in the video where you just look at your fingers and they move on their own?

          If it's the latter, that should blow your mind, because it's your body doing a specific action with you just wanting it, rather than you doing the physical movement itself.

          >Also, you don't have to use the stress position or both hands. I've held my left hand up palms open, and wanted my hand to close, and my fingers started to move down and curl inwards. Though it was a process of tiny jolted movements.

          You don't have to use a stressed position. You can try it with one hand open flat, resting on a table so there's no stress on your hand, still works. Go ahead and try it.

          decided to just completely ignore the part of my comment where i explain physically how it works, eh?

          >decided to just completely ignore the part of my comment where i explain physically how it works, eh?
          Which part, the part about your hands being in a stressed position so that's why it moves towards eachother?

          I already addressed that, you can try it with one and in a complete relaxed position, and it still works. You can make your hand start "spasming" and moving with just your thought alone, no muscle engagement required. Of course you can't make your hand clench into a fist with intent alone because that's an extreme movement that requires muscle engagement.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >as if your body moving by intent alone is some normal thing thought in schools
            You don't need to teach it, it's common sense. Most of the body's processes work unconsciously.

            > the example about breathing
            What about it? It is an example of autonomic activity that is not consciously deliberated over. It can be, though, as in breathing exercises.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >What about it?
            You said:

            >Your brain is telling them to move together WHEN YOU WANT IT TO.
            Yes, we all have free control of our fingers, assuming there is no nerve damage. They will move how we want them to move, give or take.

            >This a huge difference between you clapping your hands, and your eyes blinking, do you get my point?
            Not really. You seem to have a very simplistic understanding of how the nervous system works. The body can follow instructions without involving major muscle contraction. And most instructions are not consciously deliberated over.

            >Are you sure you aren't resisting?
            If I don't resist, they come together naturally since they are separated under tension.

            >Not really. You seem to have a very simplistic understanding of how the nervous system works. The body can follow instructions without involving major muscle contraction. And most instructions are not consciously deliberated over.
            When I mentioned passive breathing, which is literally what you said I didn't understand.

            >it's common sense.
            It literally isn't. Most people are not going to think to randomly try to move their hand with just their thoughts and no direct muscle movement, that's really random.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The body always follows the will, assuming it is physically possible to do so. The will does not need to be mediated by any particular muscular process. It is mediated by whatever system is appropriate to the task at hand.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You can make your hand start "spasming" and moving with just your thought alone, no muscle engagement required.
            Not all volitional activity requires 'muscle engagement'.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Not all volitional activity requires 'muscle engagement'.
            What does that have to do with the point I was addressing about the fingers being a stress position being the reason why they come together. Seems like you are deflecting and trying to move to some unrelated discussion.

            > All you have to do is look at your fingers and change your intent/desire, and your body obeys.

            just some points to critique:

            1. what happens, if you put the intent of having 2 magnets on each side, pulling them apart
            2. we do control the body, all over, with intents. when you stand up, you intend to stand up, its no accident. when you move your fingers to type a comment on here, its also not by accident, but you intend to do that.

            > No meditating for 1 hour in an asana position required.
            > No Semen Retention / NoFap for 30 days required.
            > No BS "just trust me bro, and do this thing for 5 to 10 years and maybe you'll get a sign/result" nonsense being said (blind cult follower type doctrine).

            you are a pathetic subhuman, aren't you?
            you are probably of the group, who took Ozempic instead of working out and having a clean diet.

            all i say to the likes of you is:
            kys
            if you are about cutting corners, go your your life short!

            >1. what happens, if you put the intent of having 2 magnets on each side, pulling them apart
            I'm not even doing the magnet thing or the rubberband thing, I'm just directly wanting the fingers to come together. I tried making them pull apart and my body struggles, it doesn't work as well, you get some spasms and some slight movements of pulling apart, but it isn't streamlined like the coming together part, and that's likely because of physiology.

            Don't forget that there are still rules our body and mind has to obey, the structure of our hands makes it easy to close inwards, so movements towards the center of the hand are easier, but movements outwards need to be mechanically forced.

            >we do control the body, all over, with intents. when you stand up, you intend to stand up, its no accident
            Ok, at this point I know the experiment didn't work for you, or you are trolling, because you are talking about direct engagement of the muscles. I'm talking about your hands moving involuntarily. You aren't engaging any muscles, you aren't actually "doing it", it's something "happening to you".

            >you are a pathetic subhuman, aren't you?
            Lol, troll confirmed. I knew you couldn't be that dense, it had to be on purpose.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >about the fingers being a stress position being the reason why they come together.
            What other reason is there, apart from just intending them to come together?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Might as well rename this thread to "Astral Projection thread"

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't work.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Didn't work.
      Are you sure you weren't actively resisting it. Because it's long past the time since I watched the video and I can keep replicating it in different ways. With even one hand I can make my fingers start moving inwards as if trying to clench and make a fist.

      It's about intent, if you don't want it to work, it's not gonna work. It doesn't matter if someone does the suggestibility test or not, you should be able to do it on your own.

      Or maybe only some people can do this and I'm projecting, but I honestly think anybody can do this. Since I'm a super skeptic that doubts basically everything and it even works for me.

      >about the fingers being a stress position being the reason why they come together.
      What other reason is there, apart from just intending them to come together?

      >What other reason is there, apart from just intending them to come together?
      Ok, so like I've said like three times already. Try doing it with one hand, just one hand opened flat, palms up in the air, arm resting on a table, and look at your hand and with intent want your fingers to move towards the center of your hand, want your hand to close as if making a fist and focus, and you will see your fingers start jolting upwards slowing and bit by bit your hands begins to close without you engaging any muscles at all, without you trying to directly close your hand.

      There's no way only this works for me. It has to be that you are physically resisting or you don't want it to work.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >one hand opened flat, palms up in the air
        Same thing. You are creating tension by holding an unnatural position. Start from a position that does not need to be maintained via muscle contraction and it won't work.

        >your hands begins to close without you engaging any muscles at all, without you trying to directly close your hand.
        Again, because your hand is in a position that requires muscle contraction to maintain and you are telling your muscles to relax, so of course your hand returns to its natural state.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Same thing. You are creating tension by holding an unnatural position. Start from a position that does not need to be maintained via muscle contraction and it won't work.
          I did it with palms down too, but you give me the position then, describe the position.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Completely relax your hand. The fingers will naturally be curled upward. Now tell your hand to make a fist. It won't happen without muscle contraction.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Completely relax your hand. The fingers will naturally be curled upward. Now tell your hand to make a fist. It won't happen without muscle contraction.
            I literally already said this shit lol. You are arguing against a strawman, the argument is never that you can make yourself walk, or jump or do other extreme movements with just your intent.

            You are clearly not reading my posts. I already said you can't make a clenched fist, that goes against your physiology. Your brain still has to obey the physical limits of your body.

            You can't make your hands form a clenched fist with just intent alone because that's something that requires extremes of muscle engagement. Just like you can't make your lungs become completely filled to the max with air through passive breathing or just with intent alone, because that requires extremes of muscle engagement.

            But you can make your hand close to a about a quarter the position of a clenched fist, but it won't go any further because that requires direct muscle engagement.

            A better example for you to have given me would be to start with your hands somewhat curved instead of flat, and then try to make your fingers move upwards and backwards as if opening up your hand.

            But I already tried that, and though it's a much slower process and much harder to do, it still works.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >But you can make your hand close to a about a quarter the position of a clenched fist
            Yeah, it's called relaxing your hand. It's not rocket science, everyone does it all day. No hypnosis required.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Yeah, it's called relaxing your hand.
            No it isn't, relaxing your hand is actually about ending muscle engagement in your hands and letting it go limp.

            Being able to start and stop a sporatic involuntary movement in your hand is not "relaxing" lol.

            I'll repeat it again, because it's obvious you aren't reading.

            I am able to stop and start the movement process with intent, multiple times, and I mean WITH JUST MY INTENT (I am not engaging the muscles in my hand at all).

            That is not relaxing.

            At this point it's like you are actively trying not to get it, or lying and pretending like you don't.

            If I do it with my hand facing up my fingers move AGAINST GRAVITY to curl up towards my hand, how in the frick is that my hand returning to a "natural position"?

            Are you moronic?

            If I do it with my hands down you could make the argument that my hand is relaxing and returning to a natural position, but it works even when I go against gravity, what you are saying makes no sense.

            Just say it doesn't work for you and move on, but what you are saying right now is completely false, I'm literally doing it right now lol.

            >No hypnosis required.
            It's not necessarily hypnosis, it's a suggestibility test for hypnosis, and it has to do with intent and belief. You can literally just "do it" outside of any framework of hypnosis.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If I do it with my hand facing up my fingers move AGAINST GRAVITY to curl up towards my hand, how in the frick is that my hand returning to a "natural position"?
            Because you are contracting your hand muscles in the original position. By relaxing your muscles your fingers naturally curl up. Basic spring mechanics.

            >suggestibility
            More like susceptibility to con artists

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Because you are contracting your hand muscles in the original position. By relaxing your muscles your fingers naturally curl up. Basic spring mechanics.
            I'm talking about with my palms facing downwards too, with my fingers moving up and away from the palm, and moving in the direction that my knuckles are facing.

            >More like susceptibility to con artists
            Who said anything about buying something?

            Also the irony of this, I have a feeling you believing in one of these Semen Retention or Succubus General nonsense, but something that is a purely physical and mental phenomenon that you can test yourself is what you think has to do with con artists?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >with my palms facing downwards too, with my fingers moving up and away from the palm
            That would require muscle engagement.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >That would require muscle engagement.
            No, that would require muscle engagement to spread your hand out completely flat, but if your hand is in a relaxed position, you can move your fingers up a bit slightly without any muscle engagement.

            The reason why you are saying all of this nonsense is because you are arguing instead of simply just trying it yourself.

            I doubt you are even actually trying to do it.

            Hey, believe what you want. It's not my job to convince you. I've already said everything that needs to be said.

            There are other examples for you to try like Chevreul's Pendulum (google it).

            Congrats on being out all the shill op, love to see them sperg out on damage control lol

            Good thread OP, share what you got and for the anon claiming it’s all bullshit, glow harder. The experiment works. Can’t believe the audience was so rude. This guy rocks and yes hypnotism is real durrrrr

            Go ahead and try the Chevreul's Pendulum example of this phenomenon, it also works.

            I would start a "/hyp/ Hypnosis General" but I don't want to create a general about untested unverifiable shit. Like posting links to courses by hypnotists when I haven't successfully tested and used it on myself.

            Too many generals are just filled with untested and unverifiable garbage.

            I'm gonna be doing some research, and if I find something that works, I'll create a general.

            I want to do a crazy test like to see if I can make myself feel like vomiting every-time I drink coffee (something that actually tastes good to me). If I can induce such a strong mental change, then that specific kind of self hypnosis actually works, and then it's worth posting about.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you can move your fingers up a bit slightly without any muscle engagement.
            If they move, it is via some mechanism downstream of the will.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ultimately, only npcs are "suggestible". Those who are fully conscious understand that the body responds to stimulus in ways that go beyond deliberate muscle contraction.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Ultimately, only NPCs are "suggestible". Those who are fully conscious understand that the body responds to stimulus in ways that go beyond deliberate muscle contraction.
            Yeah that's all well and good, but it doesn't really mean anything unless we all have clearly laid out steps on how to utilize some process to invoke the changes we want. I don't see myself as "superior" to any "NPC" until I can do something extreme and life changing.

            This is the same thing I always bring up in occult threads. So many people claiming to have all these amazing magic abilities, and that everybody else is a "hylic", but they work a wage slave job just like every other hylic around them, to buy the same things that hylics buy, etc.

            If you can't use your magic to escape wage slavery, then your "magic" isn't worth boasting about (assuming you aren't just delusion).

            I'll wait till I'm actually in a position of superiority before I start calling other people NPC's.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not about being an "npc" or not, from extensive experience i can tell you that skeptics make the best hypnosis subjects, i've seen it over and over again.

            The main factor for a successful suggestibility test or induction is attention span, people with jumpy attention spans are easy to get during induction but really hard to work with during the deepening phase, you gotta prep them. And people with stable attention spans are either a smooth sail throughout the process or they try to dismantle the techniques and block the hypnotic process. In the second scenario which is typically the case with skeptics, their expectations get subverted completely the moment you produce a simple effect like catatonia or levitation of a limb, and they become the ideal subjects after that.

            If someone comes to me before i hypnotize them saying "this only works on npcs" i'm already 99% confident i'm gonna have a smooth sail with that one. As a related side note, everyone who uses cold reading in their practice as a supplement in stage knows about common generalities, which we tend to call "items", such as "most men only enjoy reading books written by men" or "most women are never pleased with the way their hair looks". The best known item in the stage hypnosis scene is " most men think they're immune to hypnosis".

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Where did you learn hypnosis:

            A specific school/institution?

            A specific course?

            From specific books?

            Please list the sources.

            I'm only really interested in self hypnosis but still all the other sources are appreciated.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you just want to practice self hypnosis read Milton Erickson, he was a clinical hypnotist who developed his own branch of hypnosis and since his focus is clinical everything he teaches, even the hetero-hypnosis can be applied to self hypnosis. If you want something lighter go with Ledochowski.

            I've read pretty much everything, but hypnosis has a low mainstream ceiling, outside clinical the books won't take you that far, people tend to develop their own techniques and batteries (groups of techniques executed in sequence for specific effects). You don't really need any of that for self hypnosis, just read Erickson and get a general grasp.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Are you sure you weren't actively resisting it
        Lol are you for real right now? Either it works or it doesn't.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Lol are you for real right now? Either it works or it doesn't.
          I don't think you get what I'm saying. If the entire point of an exercising is to make your fingers move with thought, but you are PHYSICALLY trying to hold your fingers apart, then you AREN'T ACTUALLY DOING THE EXERCISE.

          It would be the logical equivalent of me telling someone that if they stare at a bright light for 5 seconds they will automatically blink, and they are PHYSICALLY holding their eyes open with active force and then telling me - "see, it doesn't work" lol.

          They are just being disingenuous. The exercise is about a passive response, if you actively resist something passive, then you are doing the exact opposite of the exercise.

          If you just want to practice self hypnosis read Milton Erickson, he was a clinical hypnotist who developed his own branch of hypnosis and since his focus is clinical everything he teaches, even the hetero-hypnosis can be applied to self hypnosis. If you want something lighter go with Ledochowski.

          I've read pretty much everything, but hypnosis has a low mainstream ceiling, outside clinical the books won't take you that far, people tend to develop their own techniques and batteries (groups of techniques executed in sequence for specific effects). You don't really need any of that for self hypnosis, just read Erickson and get a general grasp.

          >If you just want to practice self hypnosis read Milton Erickson
          Where to start, and what book deals in particular with self hypnosis.

          I actually already started downloading his videos and books from some torrents, I stumbled upon his stuff and started downloading shortly before I found the video I created this thread on.

          Do you know of any torrents / mega drives / google drives with all of this content together in one place. His stuff is hard to find (well the videos).

          If you don't want to post it here because the links will get doxxed and then deleted, please message me on discord. My username is "uunknownuunknown".

          Thank you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >ut you are PHYSICALLY trying to hold your fingers apart, then you AREN'T ACTUALLY DOING THE EXERCISE.
            in which part did he say that?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >in which part did he say that?
            Where did he say he didn't. This is an anonymous forum, the last guy who said something similar like him said that he was doing that, and he could be the same guy responding, I don't know.

            Bruh, maybe this "works" for you because you're a highly suggestible NPC. Stop trying to convince me of this bullshit. Just don't bother.

            >Bruh, maybe this "works" for you because you're a highly suggestible NPC
            What does it have to do with suggestibility if I'm doing it on my own, alone in my room, without the video or any suggestion?

            Maybe it's not working for you because you are an NPC with no free will, so you can't invoke anything with intent.

            >Stop trying to convince me of this bullshit. Just don't bother.
            Nobody is really trying to convince, I'm just arguing your nonsense, you could literally just leave the thread lol.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If someone tells you that your favorite larp doesn't work for them, be a gracious adult and say "ok" and move on lmao. Instead you're trying to make it like I'm the one who failed your test. No, Black person. You failed my test. This shit doesn't work, and you're a moron.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Instead you're trying to make it like I'm the one who failed your test.
            No I'm not lol, like I said, if it didn't work, why are you still here?

            >You failed my test
            Ok bro, good luck.

            OP is an empty-headed NPC with no soul. That's why this shit works for him.

            >That's why this shit works for him.
            Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep well tonight.

            If there are two people with an alcohol addiction.

            Guy 1 is an "empty-headed" NPC that hypnotizes himself through some process and quits alcohol cold turkey in two weeks, and never has urges again.

            Guy 2 is a "superior enlightened being" that has to go to AA meetings for years for emotional support, and struggles to resist drinking everyday for the rest of his life.

            I think I'll go with being Guy 1.

            Labels don't matter, results do.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ok, NPC.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bruh, maybe this "works" for you because you're a highly suggestible NPC. Stop trying to convince me of this bullshit. Just don't bother.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Congrats on being out all the shill op, love to see them sperg out on damage control lol

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP is an empty-headed NPC with no soul. That's why this shit works for him.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I stumbled upon this video years ago, it works like a charm.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ew.. ped0bear adjacent

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it works like a charm.
      For what?

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