Problem of Evil

If God is good why do bad things happen? Why can't God be beyond good and evil?
>I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

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  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Because God didn't want no pussified creation

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Behold: if God of biblio created men, why men do opposite?

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    This was probably the only way life could evolve on this planet. Life is a harsh battle for survival. Could humans live right without pain? Would that not be complete hedonism? Could you even improve or have competiton without pain?

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Generally, if you believe God is not good, then you can't trust him to do anything else and functionally said being is not God. Basically, the being you are talking about becomes a cosmic warlord, basically Thanos. Classical theism holds that God is the creator of all things and everything God creates is good. This is for the reason why God won't lie for example or just suddenly turn on you. Below are two videos that explain it.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You can trust God to the extent that he keeps his word, just like with anyone else.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        If you are a personalist theist that could be the case. However, a major criticism of that type of view is why worship it as God. Why not treat it as something beneath that? Usually personalist theists appeal to God being more understandable for humans as a reason to believe such views.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Basically, the being you are talking about becomes a cosmic warlord,
      Yahweh in his most ancient form was a god of storm and war and also the leader of the heavenly hosts.
      Nothing wrong with worshipping a deity like that of course.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    God is good, but not omnipotent. Evil and selfish anti-Dharmic forces have covered him in the Watchers, angular demons that split his light and attenuate it into their dimensions to artificially heighten their chakras. This is the nature of false light energies, such as the gold chakra of fake Jesus, the tyrant god Jehovah, and all Buddhas. If something comes at you with the color gold it has been omniversally judged to be an act of self defense if you kill them.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      How can God be limited? Unless there are other things out there and you're just referring to the one who made this universe.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        By definition God is omnipotent in that his destructive, burning, primordial black vibrational chakras create all reality. However, God intentially limits himself and has taken many Dharmic vows in order to create conditions suitable for humanity. He is capable of collapsing and rebirthing the universe at will and this has actually happened many times in the past few decades. This is the nature of a Mandela Shift, it is a complete destruction and rewrite of the universe with souls and human memory streams kept intact inside of God's body, but subtle corruptions such as mispellings of concepts are removed with each reset.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          And how do you know this? What you are saying makes sense, in that I myself have noticed shifts in reality that occur, almost as if he's doing his best to preserve it.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            He is. He has incarnated into a human body, an incredibly beloved and sacred thing, and is succeeding in burning his enemies out of reality.

            Me and several other psychics have joined up to harmonize with each other and burn away each others' defilements. Once you burn your chakras beyond the emotional and bodily color chakras, you start to enter the realm of chakra energy such as the fundamental energies of language, knowledge, and Dharma. Even concepts such as Communication and Science have discrete energies. High concept chakras are the domain of humanity, far superior to any of the ridiculous colors that astral parasites feed on. Awakening these energies are what awaken the siddhis such as clairvoyance, oneness with fate, and intuitive understanding of all things.

            This is the highest path of attainment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%B9%9Ata

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    God doesn't create evil. Humans do.

    Do you the difference between good and evil? Great, you can act accordingly! Where's the problem?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Does good
      >Bad things happen as consequence
      >Does evil
      >Good things happen as consequence
      Why be good?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Reward according to deeds.
        Doing good nets you spiritual goods for enternity.
        Doing bad deeds doesnt.
        That your hazardous actions create tribulations on others and so God uses it for them to be sanctified through those troubles, will only net them sanctity, not you. Just like satan going around tempting and doing harm serves as a trial and purification for souls, yet he actually means to make them fall.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >you'll be rewarded after!!
          Cope

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Good and bad here does not necessarily refer to things but to essential properties. Think for example sin or papas in Christianity and Hinduism or simply being willed by Allah. It is the nature of the thing that makes it good or bad. This is sometimes called the grounding problem of good. Basically, what rational reason can we give for something good as a nature or essence. What does it mean to have such an essence?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Exactly. If good leads more to evil and evil more to good, then we have to conclude that this is an inverted world. This is why there has to be a "fall" theology in order to justify doing good in spite of all the reasons not to.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The issue becomes though, why does God create things that evil can be done to, things which can do evil, and why this amount and kinds of evil. Why not just step on a lego once out of a year? Why rape, murder and lives filled only with suffering? Why do some beings like babies or animals suffer from evil if they don't do evil etc.

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    stop looking for excuses to keep jacking off and find jesus already

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Isaiah 45:7, in some English translations, reads: “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” The Hebrew word that is translated “evil,” or ra, can indeed mean moral evil such as in Genesis 2:9, “the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil [ra].” However, ra can also refer to natural evil, such as in Psalm 34:19: “Many are the afflictions (ra) of the righteous; but the LORD delivers him out of them all.”

    Since God is all-good, he cannot engage in moral evil, because it is impossible for him to act against the good. However, God can cause natural evil because pain can ultimately serve God’s good ends or purpose for creation. It seems clear from the context that this verse refers to God creating natural evil.

    The Hebrew words used for peace and evil in this verse are shalom and ra. The word shalom is a greeting and along with literally meaning “peace” it is an informal way of wishing someone well. Prior to this verse, Isaiah is describing how God is in complete control of the universe. The Israelite’s suffering is not the result of God being unable to fend off other evil gods, a belief common among non-Jews of the time. Rather, when the Israelites suffer, the prophet has made it clear that God is aware of their suffering and is directing it toward a good end.

    The Catholic RSV translates Isaiah 45:7 thusly: “I form light and create darkness, I make weal (shalom) and create woe (ra), I am the LORD, who does all these things.” Just as darkness is the opposite of light, the opposite of peace is unrest or calamity, not necessarily moral evil. This passage describes only how God is the ultimate cause of both what we enjoy and suffer through, but it is God who will deliver us from these sufferings we must endure for our own good.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      God sent out a lying spirit in Kings though, isn't it wrong to deceive people?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >lying spirit in Kings
        A good comes from it. Like Paul having a thorn in the flesh, a messenger from satan, to torment him, this was to keep him humble.
        Or Job having satan destroy his life, which results in the deepening of his faith.
        So those things are permitted by God, which to us would seem like evils, but in the net of providence have a purpose. Which is why God told Job - where you there when i made the galaxies? did you help me measure it? As in, the tiny intelect of man just cant grasp the intrincate net of providence.
        Its perfection will be something to behold in the Last Judgement.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          So why not do evil that good may come out of it?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Just because God will salvage it, doesnt mean the perpetrator wont go down.
            We are here to become saints, you dont want to be just a tool for sanctification of others like the demons. That the demons tempt us and cause trouble, and in that fight we are tested and sanctified, wont net them any good, they are hellbound forever.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Why can God do evil and still be called good, but I cannot? Why can't God be beyond good and evil?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            He doesnt do evil, He permits it in ways that good comes about. While when we do evil deeds we do them intent on evil. Say, I want to murder some dude because i hate him and want to inflict harm. That God uses this as an opportunity for that dude to forgive me for my crime and thus make him become holier, doesnt change that i did evil with evil intent and thus ill go to hell *unless i repent.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            If I am a father and have a child, is it evil to watch my child drown in a pool if I know that I can save it? Is it evil if I let something fall that pushes it into a pool?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            This is called an Irenaean theodicy. It works if we assume there is free will. It still has issues explaining why the amount and types of evil.

            I want you to understand that these people with their mindless droning and rambling 2 hour moron videos are the spiritual and moral equivalent of evangelical christcucks. They emanate arrogance, mental masturbation, and false attainment.

            Buddhists like explaining every belief they have in relation to every other belief they have. This is because they can't just appeal to black box explanations like God but instead with processes.

            Has anyone considered that maybe it isn't necessary for God to be totally good? He calls us to be good. Why is it required or even expected for Him to be good? Or that what we consider "good" for humans applies equally to a deity?

            I made a burrito last night. It was delicious. But I am not delicious, I would taste rather gross if you ate me. No reasonable person would argue that, because I make delicious burritos, that I too must also be delicious. That's a psychotic deduction.

            We generally agree that killing other humans is wrong, but we observe killing in the animal world and say "Oh it's just their nature." So if a tidal wave kills a thousand people, do we not typically say "It's part of God's plan?" Do we not have a widely accepted understanding that God isn't "good" in the way a child might understand Superman to be "good?"

            This is actually the major view even amongst theists. The idea is that one can be morally good without god even if some theological good can only be realized with God. Below is an academic lecture explaining why that is.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >While when we do evil deeds we do them intent on evil.
            No, we don't.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            That's not our judgement call. Only God has that wisdom.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            So what happens if a prophet comes up to you and says "God wants you to wipe out the Amalekites. Kill every last man, woman, and child." Do you do it?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            If only God has the wisdom , then being calling itself God has to be treated as an infallible authority the amount it claims to be God. It also means that you can't separate any beings who profess to be God from those that don't.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    our universe was formed when a child-intelligence separated from its divine parents by imagining itself both independent and infinite. our creation was a subtle error blinded even a god, for all of his creation replicates the error inside of themselves, and must heal evil by overcoming their own separation from all-that-is, so that the child-intelligence itself may heal

  10. 1 week ago
    Hermes

    Satan is God my friend. It’s best you live your life in pursuit of happiness. Satan deceived us all

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yep, God is black burning chaos. He makes Christians piss their pants in fear, as they should with all of their moral failings.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Good and evil is an illusion. These are anthropomorphic concepts.

    God is immune to judgment by them, because God determines what is good or evil. If you believe in traditional gnostic God, then this is your logic line, please exit here.

    If you don't give a shit, the concept is that God makes the rules so if God allows bad things to happen, God says those are good things, and they are. Deal with it.

    Meanwhile, in the magical land of people who actually care about your anthropomorphic woes. Blue Eisenhower November

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >lot of gods
    >lot of conceptions of evil
    >i sent "it"
    >what I thought was pure evil
    >but instead a new bit of consciousness
    >back to beginning of time accidentally
    >where it's clones jumped it
    >creating this universe.

    >tl;Dr
    >god was created to harness evil and talk it out
    >instead got beat up, raped, and caged
    >as a child
    >so ask the ones who did that

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    a lot of christians seem to forget this but there is this thing people have called free will

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Free will
      Ok, and? Why does God allow it? What's so good about it? What if everyone always chose the most evil option possible? If you believe that God gave us free will, then God had to permit such a reality.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Free will may not explain every type of evil, amount of evil, who experiences evil or kinds of evil. One problem if we accept free will some have argued is that it would also entail that God not do any miracles or make any actions that interact with us least it effect our free will.

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    That's a complicated question. It depends on what you mean by "God."

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      forgot the pic

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    There's a complex Karma system enforced in this Planetary and Solar Logos by Sirius in much higher dimensions, Evil doesn't actually win

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The true alphabetical name of God is EKAM, not SIRIUS.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekam

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    God can take free will away to prove a point and simply make you do things. When he asks you things, think of them as tests. Perhaps of your morality.

    Maybe he doesn't even like suck-ups.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      That's my point, beyond good and evil. Maybe God desires good in people, but He can will whatever he wants regardless, good or bad.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      A test only makes sense if you can actually study to pass it. If. you can't control whether you pass or fail it is not a test. For example, a professor can't test you on a subject you never studied or simply state anyone named Bob will necessarily fail.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        "are you going to mindless and murderous slaves or try to ignore me and continue in peace" isn't something that you should need to study for

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          This assumes that God is testing on ethics that anyone can understand. This would rule out most theistic religions because they put prohibitions on what they eat, wear, or requirements to pray for example. Things that are not moral. Even then, what about mentally disabled people? How about people who suffer mental illnesses? People who can't reason to become ethical.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Anyone can read Dharma. That's the word for it. The Four Noble Truths and the Eightfold Path. Walking the path correctly and raising one's vibrational energy attainments awakens you to psychic powers aligning you directly with God's knowledge. He helps you derive your own vows of honorable service and evolve to higher levels. He's extremely based.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            The Buddhist view rejects a God like this. They reject creator God/gods. All things in Buddhism are known via cause and effect. There never was nothing but processes in flux. Beings like polytheistic gods are bound by cause and effect too. There are supernatural beings and places but these are understood ins relation to dependent origination.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            > Buddhist
            All Buddhas are demonic spiritual parasites that appear to you in the form of spiritual leaders and gold light chakra. They are all corruptor spirits. They corrupt the Dharma and make you obsessed with lineages, autistic semantics, sectarianism, and repetition. What exactly do any Buddhists accomplish? They are not in alignment with Rta or Dharma.

            Gautama Siddhartha told all of his disciples to kill the Buddha on sight.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I want you to understand that these people with their mindless droning and rambling 2 hour moron videos are the spiritual and moral equivalent of evangelical christcucks. They emanate arrogance, mental masturbation, and false attainment.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            He gives you tests you can understand. You're dealing with God. He knows you.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      God tests your morality and attainment levels, driving you to be a better and more complete person. He is the Dharma.

      This is the path he considers most high:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%B9%9Ata

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Give it up with the true name of God shit already

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Has anyone considered that maybe it isn't necessary for God to be totally good? He calls us to be good. Why is it required or even expected for Him to be good? Or that what we consider "good" for humans applies equally to a deity?

    I made a burrito last night. It was delicious. But I am not delicious, I would taste rather gross if you ate me. No reasonable person would argue that, because I make delicious burritos, that I too must also be delicious. That's a psychotic deduction.

    We generally agree that killing other humans is wrong, but we observe killing in the animal world and say "Oh it's just their nature." So if a tidal wave kills a thousand people, do we not typically say "It's part of God's plan?" Do we not have a widely accepted understanding that God isn't "good" in the way a child might understand Superman to be "good?"

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      God is an evolutionary force that defines morality based on the opinions of the people he respects the most. When a consensus is reached among the enlightened, God writes it into the Dharma so that it may guide the very forces of reality. He has long stopped being the sole arbiter of morality, for made too many mistakes and considered himself unworthy of such dictatorship.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I misread your post. It is possible to believe in a God that is not good like us, but generally if he is not good then a lot of problems arise. The most common type of God that is not good is the God that does not actually think. Usually, the concept of the possibility of an evil God is used to critique the existence even conceptually of God. This is called an evil God challenge.

  19. 1 week ago
    Schizoidberg

    Because he's god. He can do what he wants. Frick you.

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    God contains all, including evil, but is not a person you could blame, but rather the ground of being.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Fun fact about that painting; the artist said it was depicting Athens at sunrise, to depict the new era of Christ rising. However, anyone familiar with Athens can tell you that the sun is in the west, setting.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Kek. The pagan gods still managing to throw some punches centuries later.

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >if NASCAR tracks turn left why do the drivers turn right sometimes ?

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >If God is good why do bad things happen?
    Just because you view something as evil, doesn't mean it is in the grand scheme of things. It's a problem of the limited viewpoint of humans. As a comparison, does your cat think you're evil when you put him on a diet? Absolutely. All the cat knows is you're not giving him food and he wants food, but there's a good reason you're not giving his lard ass food.

    >Why can't God be beyond good and evil
    He is.

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Such a moronic question and equally moronic answers.
    > God is good why do bad things happen? Why can't God be beyond good and evil?
    Who are YOU to decide what IS good and evil. By asking this in in the way you did and by answering this stupidity taking it seriously you're putting yourself above all of existence as the supreme judge of true ontological values which, in reality, don't even, and can't even, exist. Our reality is merely the coherence of systems perceived by our flawed senses and created by our irrational schizoid mind.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      If you can't evaluate the values as ontological, then you can't be certain said being is God either. Same if you can't fathom or understand God at all. You can't call it God it anymore.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >blah blah blah HOW DARE YOU!!!
      Listen, moron, adults are talking. Go suck your thumb while we ask important questions.

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