population growth debunks reincarnation forever. okay, one more hypothesis gone, let's move to the next one

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okay, one more hypothesis gone, let's move to the next one

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what if thats the exact reason why people are so soulless nowadays? Too many bodies, not enough spirits

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Makes sense. Consider this among the animal kingdom as well. You'll find creatures still stuck to the norm we see in all of them except for that select few and with cameras and the world getting smaller, they are becoming easier to spot lately.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I want to become the first human among ALL those to do something, achieve something.
      What can I hope to achieve that no human has achieved before? Im getting baki vibes

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You know what to do anon

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        One word: BAAVNYEME

        Inspire now -

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    aliens, all other forms of life, and multi/parallel universe theory debunks this debunk

    I wouldn't worry about it though

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You're assuming this is the only planet with life, you're assuming that the number of free souls is smaller than the number of imprisoned souls.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    One spirit is incarnated as multiple people at a time across different times. We are many.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're assuming this is the only planet with life, you're assuming that the number of free souls is smaller than the number of imprisoned souls.

      Hasn't there been more than 100 billion people over time? Right now we're near 8 billion currently living humans, so surely if we're all reincarnating that means that there have been plenty of souls in the past to fill the demand of souls for all currently living humans?

      There are infinite souls.
      Most souls never enter samsara.
      At any given moment there are countless souls entering and exiting the cycle.

      https://i.imgur.com/zdd13zR.jpg

      Astral projection debunks consciousness only existing in the physical body. Checkmate materialists.

      Reincarnation is not real. Once you die it's over, nobody will judge you and you aren't going anywhere after. You simply cease to exist.
      They can create unlimited humans on the other hand so life will never stop existing here on earth.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The most ugly form to say this, tbh.

        True. The butt mad new age / pajeet responses prove you right.
        >b-but muh aliens reincarnate on earth
        Aliens aren't real, lmao. Midwits.

        > Aliens aren't real, lmao. Midwits.

        They are and they comming for our men

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Watch some animals getting eaten alive by other animals. Or even better watch humans getting dismember alive by other humans. Then read some history about all the atrocities that happened here on earth. See how pretty this creation is, how beautiful the truth is.

          tldr; there is nothing more that the normie cattle, this homosexual I'm replying to, fear more than the ugly truth. They will do anything to avoid the truth and stick to their illusions, because the lies are sweet and comforting.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    baur new souls can be born

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >thinking souls can't split
    >thinking there can't be soulless humans

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How are souls made?
    Are there a limited number of souls?
    How quickly does the mind learn knowledge?
    Some faster than others, is there a reason for this?
    Are we remembering past knowledge or just happen to be innately talented by our blood and genes to understand certain things better than others?

    t. Platonist

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >How are souls made?
      souls are not made it is omnipotent, omnipresent. It is beyond birth and death.
      >Are there a limited number of souls?
      Only god know as he himself splitted into this vast incomprehensible existence.
      >How quickly does the mind learn knowledge?
      karma, It is all decided by your karma. Hinduism has a concept of Varna(Tendencies of mind). Krishna in gita says "Chaturvarnam mayashrishta"
      means i have created these four varnas to peacefully run this society else there will be Chaos every where. Concept of equality is fraud it should rather be equality among equals. Defining varnas will be a hectic task here as for the word limit but you can read about them on internet.
      >Some faster than others, is there a reason for this?
      Karma, varnas read on net.
      >Are we remembering past knowledge or just happen to be innately talented by our blood and genes to understand certain things better than others?
      previous karmas, no karma is gone into vein. If you are born in one of the upper three varna ( read about dwij bandhu first than varna) It is a very complex concept that people mix with caste bullshit.
      >t. Hindu (refrence from Bhagvad Gita aka the song of god)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What's the point of karma if we don't remember our past lives? We have no reference point. You can point to the 12th house but alas it's merely a human interpretation.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >What's the point of karma if we don't remember our past lives? We have no reference point. You can point to the 12th house but alas it's merely a human interpretation.
          Point of karma is to keep the cycle of the world running so that the soul can eventually realise the Highest truth.
          >cant remember past live
          thats a boon my fren else humans who cant even handle this single life and off themselves would have gone insane the moment they were born.
          >does previos life karma does not matter
          karma never goes into vain. Karma is the reason you were born again. karma is the reason you will keep suffering and rejoicing. Every moment every being is doing karma wether you acknowledge it or it. That is why Gita advocates The Karma Yoga for every human as evey human has to do karma why not do it in way that librates.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Point of karma is to keep the cycle of the world running so that the soul can eventually realise the Highest truth.

            Just take psilocybin if you want realize the ultimate truth. Any incarnation can figure this out.

            >thats a boon my fren else humans who cant even handle this single life and off themselves would have gone insane the moment they were born.

            The reason people can't even handle this single life is precisely because they're operating in the dark. Were they to remember past lives, they'd at least have reference points to guide their actions towards "highest truth".

            >karma never goes into vain. Karma is the reason you were born again.

            Yet we're left in the dark about our negative karma we must pay off? How do you not see this as a soul trap?

            >karma is the reason you will keep suffering and rejoicing.

            Attachments will do that but again, any incarnation can figure this out when the information is given. What if someone generates a bunch of negative karma before realizing their attachments were the cause of their suffering? And now they must reincarnate to balance it despite not knowing any better. Where's the empathy of the Gods here? I can't find it.

            >Every moment every being is doing karma wether you acknowledge it or it. That is why Gita advocates The Karma Yoga for every human as evey human has to do karma why not do it in way that librates

            Yet we are left in the dark about it. Furthermore, we're merely assuming this system of karma and rebirth is true. We could be wrong.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >karma
        just so bullshit used to justify almost any abuse of power or indiscretion imaginable. And it has no explanatory power.
        >Varna
        Nonsense which only applies to India not anywhere else and even then the castes have already been mixed for centuries, if not thousands of years.

        Anamnesis in the Socratic dialogues points toward a remembering of that which we have already learned before.

        >A child reads a book for the first time and reads a word he's never seen before or a concept and understands it without having to research what it is

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Karma
          this is the unwavering rule of this world wether you like it or not. Karma as known by western world is very basic concept according to them its just action and reaction but it is way more complex.
          you do karma while you think, while you sleep, while you eat drink , its not just i did good than i mist recieve good and bad man must be poor because he is bad. karma does not work like this.
          >Varna nonsense
          first of all it shows that you are not interested in getting an answer but to validate your feeling. Varna is for humanity not for just india i already mentioned to not frick it up with caste nonsense yet here you are doing the same. It again shows how little you know yet think you understand it all.

          >A child reads .............
          Learning is different from knowing. knowledge of whole univers exists in every single brain but only few can comprehend beyond certain level.
          swami vivekananda used to say
          "All differences in this world are of degree, and not of kind, because oneness is the secret of everything."
          >we all are geniuses but due to our bad karmas we are born in certain body with certain tendencies(varna) which only allow us to know at certain degree.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >he himself splitted
        Wrong. Read your Isopanishad.
        >pūrṇasya pūrṇam ādāya
        >pūrṇam evāvaśiṣyate
        God does not "split".

        • 1 month ago
          ࿗ TKD TND TMD ࿗

          bubbles are a part of ocean while remaining in ocean they look different wrt surrounding. i was talking about change of forms here, not literal split as in the gita itself sri krishan has said
          "नैनं छिन्दन्ति शस्त्राणि नैनं दहति पावकः । न चैनं क्लेदयन्त्यापो न शोषयति मारुतः ॥" which is similar to what had been said in upanishad.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >bubbles are a part of ocean while remaining in ocean they look different wrt surrounding.
            Beautiful. The analogy of gasses already present in the liquid [Absolute] able to form and then de-dissolve has not hit upon me before.
            You are taking नं to refer to atma and paramatma, yes?

            based. i understand your each word.
            r u a sanskrit student where did you read about brahma sutras ?

            >r u a sanskrit student
            Best as I can. My eyes were opened by Srila Prabhupada, but I have no recent connection to ISKCON, and lean more toward Visishtadvaita than his hard dvaita reaction to the monism throughout the western understanding.
            I love to read and much of my worship and meditation on Balarama is through immersion and engagement with finding and understanding texts, words, and the many many concepts and interpretive facets they produce.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >de-dissolve
            re-dissolve*

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There are other planets souls incarnate on more or less advanced as Earth, you fricking moron.
    >John 14:2-6 NKJV. In My Father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >nkjv
      Ngmi

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >quotes a book written by anonymous israelites
      Kys right now

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The population never grew. It was always this big.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No it doesn't
    Some people were living as animals before they got a rebirth as a human

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This. The rapture has happened many times over. Most souls have long since moved on from this place. The ones who are left are those who have come back for a specific purpose, usually to guide/be an example and "slow learners" whose base desires keep them on this plane no matter how powerful they grow-basically these are angels and demons. The rest are previously animal souls. It's true that are previously animals I don't mean that as a insult. India is a good example of this lel.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There are infinite souls.
    Most souls never enter samsara.
    At any given moment there are countless souls entering and exiting the cycle.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hasn't there been more than 100 billion people over time? Right now we're near 8 billion currently living humans, so surely if we're all reincarnating that means that there have been plenty of souls in the past to fill the demand of souls for all currently living humans?

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not if the sub-races are spawned without a soul

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >he thinks he has a soul because he's a muttoid
      That's how they get ya

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't believe in reincarnation but even I know that new souls are created in systems that have it.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >population growth debunks reincarnation forever
    >
    >
    >okay, one more hypothesis gone, let's move to the next one
    no it does not there are billion other souls dwelling in differnt other species. just shape shifting.
    >google says the population of ant is supposed to be around 20quadrillion
    just this single species is enough to replace human existence multifold. Imagine how many more living beings are there dwelling in air, water and ground. There are unknown number of souls dwelling this earth at a time.
    Reincarnation doesn't imply from one human to other it just mean moving from one cloath to other.
    >Bhagvad gita says soul changes bodies like old clothes dont fear of losing one(death).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do you have physical proof reincarnation is real??

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        *crickets*

        The typical answer is no but it comes from gnosis. The problem is, of course, that people have contradicting experiences of gnosis.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Here you go b***h homie

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    frick off midwit

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Arrogant statement made by an ignorant mind.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    New souls can be created and not all souls are reincarnated. Like saying new car sales debunks the idea of used car sales.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We don't know who has a soul and who doesn't, they could be props and all of this is for spiritual growth. But you have to treat everyone like they have a soul because we don't know.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you are correct anon, and im not sure why anone would WANT to believe in reincarnation but it is very popular rn for some reason. samsara sounds hellish.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'd rather be here then Nirvana/Heaven. They sound boring as frick

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Some people don't want to give up their illusions. Admitting the zodiac wheel is a prison would induce serious cognitive dissonance.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you don't have to believe it but OP's logic is midwit as frick.
      some souls waited a while before incarnating. when population was growing they finally got their turn. BOOM. it debunks the debunk.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So this thread remains but not the other one?

    The other had actual discussion and real world application.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >population growth debunks reincarnation forever

    Why though? That doesn't make any sense. You didn't justify that in any way.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I am literally God, you are just an npc here to amuse me. Entertain me you human tulpa

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No it doesn't. This reality is essentially a processing center for souls. This is the middle ground that is used to filter the impurities from souls.
    There are still many MANY souls waiting in the pre-life realm, who are simply waiting for vessels to be born that they can inhabit in order to get their turn. Not just that, but the fact that souls reincarnate based on their karma, which means humans can reincarnate as animals and vice versa.
    Life as a human is a "test". If you fail the test by doing horrible things in life, you are essentially "downgraded" in the next life, to a lesser life form. Someone who is greedy and lies often, or lives a life if indulgence and disregard, will probably reincarnate into a pig or dog something, whereas murderers and rapists might reincarnate as a pathetic fly or worm as punishment. They must live this life to repent. Depending on their deeds they might have to live multiple "lesser lives" before they reincarnate as a human again.
    If you lived a good life and did good things, you reincarnate as a human again, until you achieve enlightenment and your soul becomes pure, like clear water.

    There are many souls who have never even entered the cycle before. These young-souls will be born as humans first, and their deeds in their first life will determine their position in the next.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Black person you really believe there hasn't already been billions of billions of people on this earth. You really trust 'muh this the most people on earth' brother open the third eye and realize you can go on this planet and meditate and 'feel high'... the world is way more interesting than people would want you to believe. Ya cities are shit and small towns get weird sometimes. But walk on the earth with your barefoots, fast a bit maybe, stop running away get sober with electronics, porn, booze, get to your baseline. Feel safe again.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ∞/8,000,000,000 = ∞

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Posting a frog debunks OP not being systematically and objectively wrong and and a homosexual.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I like frog threads
      midwit interpretations of complex subjects lead to fruitful discussion

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's to say time always moves forward for your next go?

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >implying everyone has a soul

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anon, I know you borrowed neurons to even make the post, but hear me: what if not all souls are incarnated at the same time?

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Astral projection debunks consciousness only existing in the physical body. Checkmate materialists.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Soul division + NPCs

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Population growth can be mapped to extinction of lesser species almost 1:1
    Reincarnation is real, it is accelerating, and seemingly the log jam in the system is Human refusal to move on.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Earth is a garden for growing animal souls into human intelligence, after which they transcend and go out as fully aware spiritual intelligences.
    Op don't even remember his dolphin stage, much less his anthropod stage. baka, ngmi.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/cXgOr0V.jpg

      Population growth can be mapped to extinction of lesser species almost 1:1
      Reincarnation is real, it is accelerating, and seemingly the log jam in the system is Human refusal to move on.

      aren't you the equivalent of scientology? "muh multiple souls" type of thing

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >He doesn't know a damn thing about reincarnation unless its EerieWeb memes and South Park
        >He doesn't know

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You do have multiple souls, this isn't a scientologist concept, every spiritual thinker in history, most notably Aristotle has talked about multiple souls.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    souls get created anon. there are beings with billions of lives behind them, and others in their first, concurrently.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Souls are eternal and never created.
      You confuse entrance into samsara with creation.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        sorry but you're just a brainlet that doesn't understand time.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >population growth debunks reincarnation forever
    It does not. for various reasons
    >annimals can evolve and be reincarnated as humans just as humans can devolve and be reincarnated as animals
    >You assume we reincarnate only on this planet, if there are ayys out there it means the reincarnation happens universe wide
    >if there is a multiverse, it probably happens across universes
    Also reincarnation is probably a testament of the nonlocality of consciousness, and less likely souls finding new flesh prisons

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It happens across many realms, some say infinite realms

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    True. The butt mad new age / pajeet responses prove you right.
    >b-but muh aliens reincarnate on earth
    Aliens aren't real, lmao. Midwits.

  38. 1 month ago
    Alien Momfu

    Before you was human, you were a ant.

    The question is:
    If it's good karma to become a human and bad karma to become, let's say, a ant, how can the human populaton grow at all?

    Earn the animals more good karma than before?
    And, as far as we can say, the growth of the human population is caused by factores like more food, better medical care ect.
    How is the connection to the spiritual backround?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Human forms of life are the nexus points.
      Plant, animal, fungal, etc - lower forms of life naturally, inexorably "rise" toward human.
      Higher forms like devas are playing out good karma, and will "sink" to human when they have enjoyed all their results.
      Human form is where karma really influences things, and determines heavenly next life, earthly human next life, earthly non-human, or hellish.
      Human forms are also the best forms to get out of the cycle entirely. Hellish doesnt give you rest to think, non-human doesnt have the capability, and heavenly is too distracted with pleasure to want to leave.
      That is why the brahma sutras begin with the imperative
      >athato brahma jijnasa
      NOW is the time to inquire into the Absolute.
      NOW, while you can, while you are human.
      Other forms of life are good for being in this wheel of samsara, human is only good for figuring out your next life - and best one to figure is getting out entirely.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What a bunch of horseshit

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Accept or not, that is how it is described to work.

      • 1 month ago
        ࿗ TKD TND TMD ࿗

        based. i understand your each word.
        r u a sanskrit student where did you read about brahma sutras ?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      From my understanding the realms of existence are created karmically, so kamma may cause events such as more factories and better medical care.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    More ethnics means that more souls are arriving from Hell.

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hear me out. They are splitting souls between ever increasing numbers of bodies. Dilution on a massive scale. Hence why so many NPCs are staggering about. I can guarantee Africa is looking at a 1 to 1000 ratio. Ever spoken to one?

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Souls are limitless.

  42. 1 month ago
    Red Robin

    >population growth debunks reincarnation
    Not everyone has an astral body (soul) everyone has a memory though. Some people when they die the lights go out. Some people when they die they enter samsara afterlife. Some people don’t die.

    • 1 month ago
      Red Robin

      This is one reason why I despise those who think they are special or those that think they are chosen souls. Everyone soul no soul has a memory of who they are and the life they lived. Everyone is very real some people just are on different servers.

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How does Phineas Gage not disprove souls?

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Reincarnation of what? If I appear as this person in this life, and I appeared as another person in a previous life, then I who reincarnate am neither this person nor that person. If it is not the person that reincarnates, then it doesn't matter how many people appear in the world.

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, the next hypothesis is that instead of reincarnating, we reborn.
    This means that we return to the world in other forms, infinite forms exist, so rebirth is real.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    there's only one soul/spirit/consciousness/reality (God/Brahman) that we all share/borrow so that we can experience and learn and grow and love

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