Modern QiGong

Why are there so many modern authors of magic (eg Gallery of Magick) but nothing similar for QiGong? Or maybe there is and I haven't seen them?

Why the secrecy if magick is being discussed? At the end of the day, those who are interested will find it, and those who aren't, won't.

I want simplified Qi explanations and tutorials.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Garrote

    Qi Gong The Secret of Youth

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks, btw what's this book good for before I buy it?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bc the vast majority of Westerners are still violent barbarians who are even too moronic to reject Christianity

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This Black person thinks asi*ns aren't violent and barbaric

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm looking for some good daaantiening.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe you've heard of the religion called Falun Gong

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the religion called Falun Gong
      You can read the books but stay away from them. They've turned full on cult during the last 20 years.
      I practiced this method for over 15 years and it worked a while, but for now I wouldn't do the exercises. Zhuan Falun the main book has a few good points.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Could you expand a bit about your experiences?
        I'm practicing Falun Gong right now, I know they're a cult so I just do the exercises. Why wouldn't you recommend it? So far I enjoy the practice and don't feel like I'm getting influenced by their ideas.
        Any more info about your experience would be much appreciated. Like how are the exercises in themselves just qi gong wise?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Could you expand a bit about your experiences?
          Most people in there have no idea what they are doing, and this was the case already in ~2003. They aren't following the instructions in ZF, even the basics.
          >I'm practicing Falun Gong right now, I know they're a cult so I just do the exercises. Why wouldn't you recommend it?
          Li changed the function of the exercises in 2015, so dirty energy started floating in. That's when it really went downhill. He used to have connection with a deity who guided him, but in 2015 he got lost in his own fame and rewrote the intro page of ZF, Lunyu, which distorted the energy system. It was supposed to never change, right? Today you can't find the original intro page anywhere online, it's been purged, aside from the Chinese original on archive-org.
          >So far I enjoy the practice and don't feel like I'm getting influenced by their ideas.
          The original Falun Dafa teaching in Zhuan Falun is fine, and his first lecture like that in Sydney in 2001 and those around that time. It started straying from the real path once they formed all those off-shoot organizations, media outlets, dance shows and such, which has nothing to do with the Qi Gong. Today they also openly support Donald Trump which breaks the ban on engaging in politics, and from what I heard the dance performers and the organization around that is basically a labour camp right there in NY. They call it "the mountain", based on a misconception that Li was from the mountains (he even said he isn't). People work for free, they are building a temple (also against what Li said at first). Some have worked for only food and housing for 10 - 15 years.
          >Any more info about your experience would be much appreciated. Like how are the exercises in themselves just qi gong wise?
          The exercises are fine, they are originally channelled form a deity. The problem is the energy system inserted and later ruined by Li. If you can override it with your own functionality (Qi system) then it works.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >If you can override it with your own functionality (Qi system) then it works.
            New people can't do this, that's why it's dangerous. If you really study Qi Gong and use the books and lectures to understand what the exercises are meant to do, then actually control your Qi flow manually, then it's safe. This means you can't use the idea of "natural movements" described in the Falun Gong book.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The problem is the energy system inserted and later ruined by Li.
            What does that have to do with the exercises in the video?

            [...]

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I just enjoy the practice
          You realise cults have "practices" because they have a physiological effect? For example scientology uses hypnotic techniques taken from people like aleister crowley. As long as you don't actually meet them irl or do classes, and don't listen to their lore, you'll be fine.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I never once believed "you have to take classes or meet a master". There's such a wealth of information available on the internet that any suggestion to go to a "master" and start paying them to learn just seemed like a grift.

            Which is the point of OP. If you're acting in good faith, why not divulge all the information on the internet?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >They've turned full on cult
        Based.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Read Damo Mitchell and DON'T TELL ANYONE. You don't want the schizos rendering qi gong radioactive.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What do you mean?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Have you tried finding good books about astrology, or the Tarot? To find anything, you need to sort through a billion pieces of soccer mom new-age trash.
        Qui Gong, when there's something, it's usually decent. That's why you shut up about it, lest wagging tongues attract those locusts.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Here you go anon. It's a good book for beginners and goes into multiple exercises.
    https://www.amazon.com/Qigong-Empowerment-Medical-Buddhist-Cultivation/dp/1889659029

    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/61228

    If you're a poorgay you can pirate it here.
    http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=F962D646AA053916F9D0FB9E88C57069

    good luck anon. I bought that book back in 1999. went through it and in 2015 went through a kundalini awakening. Have fun. I highly recommend it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks a lot, really appreciate this one.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The issue here is that Buddhism and Taoism are not compatible. Something seems off with this.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I was going to make a list of novels to read and some basics in cultivation systems but then I remember this is a schizo board and you were after actually cultivation books and not novels.

      >kundalini awakening
      never heard of it

      The issue here is that Buddhism and Taoism are not compatible. Something seems off with this.

      Not totally right, not totally wrong.
      Buddhism can be see as abstract in daoism. Seen many Novels where MC practice a Buddhist Art or has a friend that is Monk.
      They separate from Daoism, but can also cultivate, the Dharma.
      There's a lot of Will and Soul applied in cultivation too.
      But those are all Novel concepts.
      I doubt they are really making super-human strength, flying immortal people in the few Sects that are still around in China.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Please share the list of books if you have time, though populated by lots of schizos they aren't the entire population of /x/ users.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >A Will Eternal
          >Desolate Era
          >Martial World
          >Talisman Emperor
          >Dragon-Marked War God
          There's many others, I didn't mention any crappy tier Novel btw

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        We get it you're a normalgay

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks a lot, really appreciate this one.

      I forgot to post this one. You can use it in conjuction with qi-gong empowerment.

      You can read reviews here
      https://www.amazon.com/Opening-Energy-Gates-Your-Body/dp/1583941460

      https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/643436

      You can pirate it here. This pirate version is the original 1995 version.
      http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=DFB25A46B561D3BA9DDDAA26DE13272F

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Thank you anon for the download links. I've been searching for some qi gong youtube videos that I can do to start my day.

  7. 1 month ago
    Schizoidberg

    Qi Gong isn't magic, it's excercise. It's like yoga for old people.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    kek you're completely wrong, probably doesn't help you don't know Chinese. But cultivating is at its peak right now. The Chinese government is pushing it HARD

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Brocades are pretty cool.

    Eight Brocades Qigong Practice with English instruction

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I originally rmencountered the system about 15 years ago and now started practicing again. They indeed seem alot more sketchy right now than then.

    Concerning the enrrgy system what do you exactly mean. Iirc the system gets implanted by Li himself? So you can't do much wrong practicing by yourself or do you?

    In the long term I will switch to a bit more sound or traditional practice. But for now I decided to do falun gong for a while longer to see what I can get out of it and be able to observe the effects better.

    It might be a system with some bagagge but I figure it's better to stick with it for some time instead of switching up systems every couple of months.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the system gets implanted by Li himself? So you can't do much wrong practicing by yourself
      The point here is that you don't have to personally visit him, it's inserted when you start learning it from the book. The system is linked to the "movement", you'd have to be completely detached from it to not be effected, and if you mindlessly start learning it, you will be seeking contact instead. Energy travels through the air, with no concern for distance.

      Now for example when writing here, our personal Qi is on the posts, and anyone can access it. (This is one way the glowies can RV people who just post on here.)

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Falun Gong
    >practice exercises
    >go to meetings
    >don't get indoctrinated
    >score some tight trad asian waifu pussy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      >for frick sake post links you utter moron
      No. I just said the exercises are harmful for beginners.

      [...]
      >What does that have to do with the exercises in the video?
      The exercises are just a contact point to a large energy system, an "egregore" in western magical terms. When you perform them, you connect to this system, which is now a cult system which does harm to yourself by feeding its negative energy into your body, UNLESS you are skilled enough to override this system and create your own.
      [...]
      >Concerning the enrrgy system what do you exactly mean. Iirc the system gets implanted by Li himself? So you can't do much wrong practicing by yourself or do you?
      I mean what I said
      [...]
      >The exercises are fine, they are originally channelled form a deity. The problem is the energy system inserted and later ruined by Li. If you can override it with your own functionality (Qi system) then it works.
      Li changed them in 2015, I have had this confirmed with another party skilled in energy work. The cleansing effect isn't there anymore, if you rely on him "inserting them" in your body, you get dirty energy now.

      [...]
      >score some tight trad asian waifu pussy
      Yeah... if you're American they'll set you up with a "VISA marriage" with some random who wants to move from China. FG also doesn't allow divorce or sex outside marriage, sex is even seen as demonic so you won't be getting any except for procreation.
      Then they'll demand you hand out fliers and do volunteer work constantly and they won't leave you alone unless you completely denounce the practice.

      There’s a great story about a cult leader who doesn’t bang his wife because he’s completely focused on building up his internal energy. The wife later betrays him because he didn’t give her the D. The cult leader dies and the wife joins a haram of a sneaky government official who gives her the D and a baby.

      Be mindful of this before getting involved with “trad qigong waifus”. If you want to focus on qigong it’s best to do it alone and single. If you want the trad waifu looking for BWC, you best be prepared to never have any internal energy since you will be giving it to her 3x a day.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >If you want the trad waifu looking for BWC, you best be prepared to never have any internal energy since you will be giving it to her 3x a day.
        Which shouldn't be a problem, if you have enough energy. Now whether or not one has a BWC...

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Are there no techniques to come without ejaculation?

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because sorcerers like Crowley are duping you into selling your soul
    QiGong is the real deal

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >for frick sake post links you utter moron
    No. I just said the exercises are harmful for beginners.

    >The problem is the energy system inserted and later ruined by Li.
    What does that have to do with the exercises in the video?
    [...]

    >What does that have to do with the exercises in the video?
    The exercises are just a contact point to a large energy system, an "egregore" in western magical terms. When you perform them, you connect to this system, which is now a cult system which does harm to yourself by feeding its negative energy into your body, UNLESS you are skilled enough to override this system and create your own.

    I originally rmencountered the system about 15 years ago and now started practicing again. They indeed seem alot more sketchy right now than then.

    Concerning the enrrgy system what do you exactly mean. Iirc the system gets implanted by Li himself? So you can't do much wrong practicing by yourself or do you?

    In the long term I will switch to a bit more sound or traditional practice. But for now I decided to do falun gong for a while longer to see what I can get out of it and be able to observe the effects better.

    It might be a system with some bagagge but I figure it's better to stick with it for some time instead of switching up systems every couple of months.

    >Concerning the enrrgy system what do you exactly mean. Iirc the system gets implanted by Li himself? So you can't do much wrong practicing by yourself or do you?
    I mean what I said

    https://i.imgur.com/eCom2EG.png

    >Could you expand a bit about your experiences?
    Most people in there have no idea what they are doing, and this was the case already in ~2003. They aren't following the instructions in ZF, even the basics.
    >I'm practicing Falun Gong right now, I know they're a cult so I just do the exercises. Why wouldn't you recommend it?
    Li changed the function of the exercises in 2015, so dirty energy started floating in. That's when it really went downhill. He used to have connection with a deity who guided him, but in 2015 he got lost in his own fame and rewrote the intro page of ZF, Lunyu, which distorted the energy system. It was supposed to never change, right? Today you can't find the original intro page anywhere online, it's been purged, aside from the Chinese original on archive-org.
    >So far I enjoy the practice and don't feel like I'm getting influenced by their ideas.
    The original Falun Dafa teaching in Zhuan Falun is fine, and his first lecture like that in Sydney in 2001 and those around that time. It started straying from the real path once they formed all those off-shoot organizations, media outlets, dance shows and such, which has nothing to do with the Qi Gong. Today they also openly support Donald Trump which breaks the ban on engaging in politics, and from what I heard the dance performers and the organization around that is basically a labour camp right there in NY. They call it "the mountain", based on a misconception that Li was from the mountains (he even said he isn't). People work for free, they are building a temple (also against what Li said at first). Some have worked for only food and housing for 10 - 15 years.
    >Any more info about your experience would be much appreciated. Like how are the exercises in themselves just qi gong wise?
    The exercises are fine, they are originally channelled form a deity. The problem is the energy system inserted and later ruined by Li. If you can override it with your own functionality (Qi system) then it works.

    >The exercises are fine, they are originally channelled form a deity. The problem is the energy system inserted and later ruined by Li. If you can override it with your own functionality (Qi system) then it works.
    Li changed them in 2015, I have had this confirmed with another party skilled in energy work. The cleansing effect isn't there anymore, if you rely on him "inserting them" in your body, you get dirty energy now.

    https://i.imgur.com/GXwTDbB.jpg

    Falun Gong
    >practice exercises
    >go to meetings
    >don't get indoctrinated
    >score some tight trad asian waifu pussy

    >score some tight trad asian waifu pussy
    Yeah... if you're American they'll set you up with a "VISA marriage" with some random who wants to move from China. FG also doesn't allow divorce or sex outside marriage, sex is even seen as demonic so you won't be getting any except for procreation.
    Then they'll demand you hand out fliers and do volunteer work constantly and they won't leave you alone unless you completely denounce the practice.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You are being very vague and acting like a shitty gatekeeper. Please explain to us why the exercises in the video are "harmful for beginners".

      Falun Gong Exercise 1 to 5 - 15 Minutes

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I did. What more do you want to hear? How well do you understand Qi Gong terminology? It won't matter how much I say if you already don't understand it.

        I said

        https://i.imgur.com/eCom2EG.png

        >Could you expand a bit about your experiences?
        Most people in there have no idea what they are doing, and this was the case already in ~2003. They aren't following the instructions in ZF, even the basics.
        >I'm practicing Falun Gong right now, I know they're a cult so I just do the exercises. Why wouldn't you recommend it?
        Li changed the function of the exercises in 2015, so dirty energy started floating in. That's when it really went downhill. He used to have connection with a deity who guided him, but in 2015 he got lost in his own fame and rewrote the intro page of ZF, Lunyu, which distorted the energy system. It was supposed to never change, right? Today you can't find the original intro page anywhere online, it's been purged, aside from the Chinese original on archive-org.
        >So far I enjoy the practice and don't feel like I'm getting influenced by their ideas.
        The original Falun Dafa teaching in Zhuan Falun is fine, and his first lecture like that in Sydney in 2001 and those around that time. It started straying from the real path once they formed all those off-shoot organizations, media outlets, dance shows and such, which has nothing to do with the Qi Gong. Today they also openly support Donald Trump which breaks the ban on engaging in politics, and from what I heard the dance performers and the organization around that is basically a labour camp right there in NY. They call it "the mountain", based on a misconception that Li was from the mountains (he even said he isn't). People work for free, they are building a temple (also against what Li said at first). Some have worked for only food and housing for 10 - 15 years.
        >Any more info about your experience would be much appreciated. Like how are the exercises in themselves just qi gong wise?
        The exercises are fine, they are originally channelled form a deity. The problem is the energy system inserted and later ruined by Li. If you can override it with your own functionality (Qi system) then it works.

        >Li changed the function of the exercises in 2015, so dirty energy started floating in. That's when it really went downhill. He used to have connection with a deity who guided him, but in 2015 he got lost in his own fame and rewrote the intro page of ZF, Lunyu, which distorted the energy system.

        https://i.imgur.com/eCom2EG.png

        >Could you expand a bit about your experiences?
        Most people in there have no idea what they are doing, and this was the case already in ~2003. They aren't following the instructions in ZF, even the basics.
        >I'm practicing Falun Gong right now, I know they're a cult so I just do the exercises. Why wouldn't you recommend it?
        Li changed the function of the exercises in 2015, so dirty energy started floating in. That's when it really went downhill. He used to have connection with a deity who guided him, but in 2015 he got lost in his own fame and rewrote the intro page of ZF, Lunyu, which distorted the energy system. It was supposed to never change, right? Today you can't find the original intro page anywhere online, it's been purged, aside from the Chinese original on archive-org.
        >So far I enjoy the practice and don't feel like I'm getting influenced by their ideas.
        The original Falun Dafa teaching in Zhuan Falun is fine, and his first lecture like that in Sydney in 2001 and those around that time. It started straying from the real path once they formed all those off-shoot organizations, media outlets, dance shows and such, which has nothing to do with the Qi Gong. Today they also openly support Donald Trump which breaks the ban on engaging in politics, and from what I heard the dance performers and the organization around that is basically a labour camp right there in NY. They call it "the mountain", based on a misconception that Li was from the mountains (he even said he isn't). People work for free, they are building a temple (also against what Li said at first). Some have worked for only food and housing for 10 - 15 years.
        >Any more info about your experience would be much appreciated. Like how are the exercises in themselves just qi gong wise?
        The exercises are fine, they are originally channelled form a deity. The problem is the energy system inserted and later ruined by Li. If you can override it with your own functionality (Qi system) then it works.

        >The exercises are fine, they are originally channelled form a deity. The problem is the energy system inserted and later ruined by Li. If you can override it with your own functionality (Qi system) then it works.
        Which part is unclear to you?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Which part is unclear to you?
          Why posting a YouTube link to the exercises is dangerous for beginners.
          It sounds like what you are saying is that doing the simple exercises was fine before 2015, but now doing those EXACT SAME exercises is no longer safe because Li changed his mind about what they mean. Can you maybe understand why this sound a bit batshit crazy?
          >If you can override it with your own functionality
          How is the "functionality" different than the exercises themselves? You preform the exercises 15 minutes a day and go on with your life. Where is the danger in that? How is it any different than doing a tai chi routine every day? Why is a tai chi routine safe while these exercises are not? You are seem mad that people don't grasp some weird shit some guy made up not that long ago like whatever he thinks is going on with the exercises, but doesn't describe at all in the hour long explanation video, has some sort of bearing on my life if I move my body in a certain way by myself for 15 minutes a day.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You seem the most reasonable one here anon.

            I'd also say if you jusy don't care about their weirdness you are fine.

            The routine seems inspired by some other qi gong sets anyway.

            Anyone else heard the romurs that Li Hongzhi studied under Wan Liping?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Why posting a YouTube link to the exercises is dangerous for beginners.
            >It sounds like what you are saying is that doing the simple exercises was fine before 2015, but now doing those EXACT SAME exercises is no longer safe because Li changed his mind about what they mean. Can you maybe understand why this sound a bit batshit crazy?
            No, because I asked if you understand Qi Gong terms, and you just confirmed that you don't. Changing the energy system changes the effect of the exercises, and if you post youtube links to them, you are allowing for said beginners to easily look at them. It's also forbidden in FG to re-upload any material, including the exercises, so they shouldn't be on there to begin with. They should only be on official websites to confirm they are legit.

            >How is the "functionality" different than the exercises themselves?
            The FG exercises are the physical means, there is an energy system created separately, which is non-physical material (that is "Qi" and "Gong"). If you at all start reading the books, it's explained that the name which in full is Xiulian Falun Dafa, consists of

            Xiu = inner cultivation
            Lian = exercises

            Fa = law
            Lun = wheel

            Da = great/big
            Fa = law

            You're here talking about Lian, as if it was the only thing, and it's explicitly explained in the teaching that this is a mistake made by many people. These are common Qi Gong terms, so one of the first things you need to do is to study and learn what Qi Gong is.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            (cont.)
            And if you think my posts here are obnoxious, keep in mind that I quit this years ago. Anyone still in the movement will be so much worse on nitpicking details that sound irrelevant to you. So if you can't handle this little, don't go near.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm no expert, but I have been studying internal arts / chi ("Qi") gathering as expressed thru tai chi / hsing yi / wu chi for over a decade. I done a lot of wu chi standing (second exercise) and understand what it takes physically internally to work with chi. I was interested in the Fallun Gong routine because of the standing.

            I think a lot of Qigong gets bogged down in bullshit and is very lite in actual practical application unless you have a high understanding of the internal factors at work, which most people in the West do not.

            >there is an energy system created separately, which is non-physical material

            I am very skeptical of people who think of an energy system as something that is separate from the physical parts of the exercises being performed. Just like electricity doesn't flow through wires that are nonconductive, Qi isn't going to flow through a body that isn't positioned correctly to allow for open internal gates that facilitate qi flow. A lot of Qigong is bullshit when people separate the physical and non-physical aspects and pretend that they are not related.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >am very skeptical of people who think of an energy system as something that is separate from the physical parts of the exercises being performed. Just like electricity doesn't flow through wires that are nonconductive, Qi isn't going to flow through a body that isn't positioned correctly to allow for open internal gates that facilitate qi flow.
            That is correct, but if we compare this to an electric system, we are not talking about just letting electricity flow in cables. FG is an advanced system where you also connect a micro chip to the cable, and this device is NOT created by just letting energy flow in the cables. The idea that this would happen is similar to taking a cable and connecting both ends to a wall outlet and expecting this to magically create a computer. The computer or micro-chip has to be pre-manufactured using work which is performed outside of the usage of the device. Meaning when translated back to qi gong: the energy system is created through "energy work", rituals and practices which are done separately during a long time. The Fa-Lun is such a device, and according to the practice's teachings, this device has been created during generations, it's an energy system passed down, which one person cannot create in one lifetime. So far so good, but this is what I'm talking about when I said Li changed the energy system; he made alterations to the device so that it's no longer the same thing as what was passed down. Like taking that computer and soldering in some other components on it randomly, or by programming malware into its software.

            Neither of these things have anything to do with the exercises as such, in this way of speaking, those are mere peripherals, your keyboard does not create your computer's motherboard.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The part with no citations

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This is where we asked Illivryn over channelling about FG.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >if you're American they'll set you up with a "VISA marriage" with some random who wants to move from China. FG also doesn't allow divorce or sex outside marriage, sex is even seen as demonic so you won't be getting any except for procreation.

      I'm ok with this.
      >Then they'll demand you hand out fliers and do volunteer work constantly and they won't leave you alone unless you completely denounce the practice.

      Get wife. Denounce practice. Simple as.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Get wife. Denounce practice. Simple as.
        Good luck. I wouldn't get into that snake nest of drama, but it's up to you. They'll tell everyone you are a spy for the Chinese communist party and spread shit all around, and the person you marry will also have family members in China and the US and those in China will call you a cult member, while those in the US will call you a communist. Chinese family drama, no thanks.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How do you remove this "energy system" or "egregore" if it has attached itself to you when you were merely looking over the material and lightly practicing it years ago? Hypothetically speaking.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >How do you remove this "energy system" or "egregore" if it has attached itself to you when you were merely looking over the material and lightly practicing it years ago? Hypothetically speaking.
        That's why you shouldn't take this lightly: an average person can't remove it. You either learn how to manipulate Qi to such a level that you can uninstall it, or you'll have to ask someone else. If you have no access to any one person you trust, your best bet is to find some pastor or other person with strong faith and have them do some form of cleansing ritual. It can't be half-assed though. The Bible has a very strong energy system attached to it as a result of the number of people using it, as an example, so just reciting the relevant quote could possibly work if you have no other option.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Jin Yong.
    Most wuxia authors made their stories in the 1950s and 60s.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't feel like making a separate thread which will be ignored and I will told to go to EerieWeb and EerieWeb will tell me qi is fake and these are exercises are for the nursing home so I will ask it here. Can someone explain what these 5 sets of exercises do in qigong terms? What would I get if I do them every day for years?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's Ashtanga Yoga, not Qi Gong. All of those exercises work the spine in some way, and the spine is commonly called the Kundalini in yoga, the purpose is strengthening of the spine which eases breathing and creates physical and mental balance, which is part of preparations for meditation.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      These are actually Tibetan rites exercises, as shown in the book "the fountain of youth"
      There's also a 6th rite, but it is for more determined and advanced practitioners who are willing to commit to it fully

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's because western magic models tend to be conflations, some of them already including eastern elements from TCM (qigong), buddhism, hinduism, taoism..etc. Just look at the dominant model in the west, hermetic qabalah, it already includes elements from pretty much every damn model out there, and if you don't find it in its theory you'll find it in its practice.

    There are western authors who specialize in eastern models though, but if you're talking about western magic models then that's my answer, they take huge inspiration or directly rip off eastern esotericism/magic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why is there no magic system derived from the ancient Greeks? Why is all of the Western system seemingly based on Hebrew and ancient Egyptian? You’d think there’d be a very prominent lineage from Greece, and France, perhaps.

      Though I guess you could argue the system most closely derived from Greece/Hellenism is the New Testament/Christianity.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        When it comes to editorial shit in the west hermetic qabalah reigns supreme, countless temples and associations tweaking it and making it "their own" but still the same general idea. But that doesn't mean there aren't greco-roman models, they're just seen as folk models and as niche, so you're not gonna see pop culture representation.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Greeks practiced pharmakeia. Many of the plants and microbes they used have gone extinct, or been cultivated for different purposes. Their recipes and rituals have long been obscured since the advent of Christendom, which taught a different path with different perils.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Astrology, alchemy, and goetia are very Greek.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Why is there no magic system derived from the ancient Greeks?
        What happened with the Eleusinian mysteries? No one knows because no one told.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        greek and egypt esoteric traditions were closely related. In the same way the hekhalot tradition was adopted, developed, and passed down for millenia in europe, until worcestor, england brought john dee to the scene.
        My theory is that the suppression of heterodoxy in europe and the subsequent proliferation of a hidden grimoiric tradition at least until the renaissance kept things more focused on Latin (sworn book of honorius and the like) in the west. Lots of resources: http://www.esotericarchives.com/index.html

        On topic,

        https://i.imgur.com/I1C2Hdo.jpg

        Why are there so many modern authors of magic (eg Gallery of Magick) but nothing similar for QiGong? Or maybe there is and I haven't seen them?

        Why the secrecy if magick is being discussed? At the end of the day, those who are interested will find it, and those who aren't, won't.

        I want simplified Qi explanations and tutorials.

        look up Damo Mitchell. He and his team are the neidan equivalent of GoM. Books, podcast, instructional videos, etc. Puts it into a practical curriculum for self-study and offers relatively affordable in-person workshops, too, although I can't attest to those.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Damo Mitchell
          I get "not good" vibes from him, surprised his name is recommended so often tbth. There are other YouTube qigong masters I trust a lot more.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Or maybe there is and I haven't seen them?
            yes, however majority of qigong related exercises has removed the traditional aspect of how it should be practiced and is just replaced by flowery movements to make it "beautiful" true qigong is not only focused on yin but also yang.. that's why you see videos of fake chinese martial arts getting rekt by an MMA fighter.. because what they practice (in this case, TCMA) has been watered down.. real practice of this kind is very hard to find

            >>Damo Mitchell
            that homosexual used the name Damo for marketing purposes so when people are searching for the real Damo, his search result will appear
            this one is the term you will have to search for leads:
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhidharma

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I know this guy apparently invented Yi jin jing and the brain and marrow washing classic but how do I actually practice the legit training method without any knowledge of the internal arts?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What are the traditional aspects removed from the practice?

            I did think it was odd that QiGong doesn't come with a belief system, lifestyle and deities to pray to. Everything about it would suggest that QiGong, the movement of energy, is just one part of a larger structure/religion that one must adhere to.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Why is there no magic system derived from the ancient Greeks?
        Are you fricking serious?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Elucidate, if you have knowledge. Rhetorical questions prove you know nothing.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What you mean is that they don't prove I know anything. If you'd studied the Greeks you would know how to construct a sentence properly.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No, I mean you issuing rhetorical questions and, two posts in, still refusing to elaborate, proves you know nothing.

            Again, you can elucidate in your next post, but we both know you can't. Go back and study classics, homosexual.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because the West does not have words for it anymore. They were taken from you by men with machine minds who brutalized their hearts to beat only to the tick of a clock, and not to the rise and fall of the sun. Today men ask for proof of what is right under their noses because they speak an undead language that can do nothing more than arbitrarily insist about what exists. Spend time reading poetry, a lot of it and from many eras, and you might start to find the source of the strength that bore the West to the top of the world. Qigong won't seem so mystifying anymore.

    I will give you one example of how poetic imagery reveals the world around you: Sun Wukong was said to be able to make shadow clones of himself with his hair that would fight for him. Some real Naruto shit, but my cat can do the same thing with her camouflage. When you don't know to look for her, you will not see her. When you try to find her, however, you will see her everywhere and become confused. Her camouflage does more than just conceal her because when you know what it looks like your visual processing will glitch and anything that even remotely looks like her will stand out in your vision. Myriad images of her will assault you in the forest, and they will hypnotize you so you won't even be able to accidentally stumble into her anymore because of how distracted you've become. Learn how to process poetic imagery like this by looking for its fractal expression in the world around you, and the wisdom of the ancestral words will reveal itself to you. Good luck.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Its due to the Han Chinese not existing anymore due to the actions of Genghis Khan.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://archive.org/details/taichiclassics0000liao

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Tom Bisio?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Unless he's a westerner who looks like Jean Claude Van Damme, then no. I'll never take advice from an ugly, pasty slob.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You are using rude language. Don't you know about your favorite actor's problems? When I see him I change the channel.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If you look like an ugly pasty slob, you should expect to be labelled an ugly pasty slob. Karmically the onus is on them to not look that way to deter such comments.

          >muh looks
          Van Damme is an actor and a ballet dancer.

          You call this an act?!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Implanting aggressive or hateful energy into a comment is also a lot worse than just using "rude words".

          You are a shameless, hateful, immature being and you should be ashamed of what you did.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/kpgdYN8.jpg

            If you look like an ugly pasty slob, you should expect to be labelled an ugly pasty slob. Karmically the onus is on them to not look that way to deter such comments.

            [...]
            You call this an act?!

            I didn't insult you and I'm sorry for you. Learn to depolarize yourself or you will have increasingly serious problems. Goodbye.

            Everyone has the hero they deserve. Thanks for ruining the thread, smartass

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Blah blah blah blah, that's all you've said. Learn the concept of projection before you post again, maybe you'll see what we see.

            So where's the actual information amongst all this autism?

            Huh? What information?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I didnt mean to quote you specifically

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Learn to depolarize yourself

            What did anon mean by this? Is this an energetic thing or an emotional/mental thing?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So where's the actual information amongst all this autism?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >muh looks
        Van Damme is an actor and a ballet dancer.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    so how does qui-qon jinn relate to all this?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He was literally named after it. "The Force" is chi.

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