Masonry questions

Any freemason lurking /x/? I got some questions:

01) Do symbols have a unique secret meaning known to all, or does each person give them their own personal meaning that can be completely different from others?
For example:
- Square and compass
- White gloves
- Pyramid and eye
- Eternal East
- Lodge chess, etc.

02) Are the "works" in lodges exclusively mental, such as readings, recitations, and dialogues, or is something physical "constructed"? Like mixing chemical elements together.

03) If a person sends an email to a lodge, does the research on the petitioner begin from that moment without their knowledge, or is there at least a physical meeting between a Freemason and a petitioner beforehand?

04) On average, what are the timeframes from petitioner to initiated, initiated to master, master to grand master?

05) If a "dormant" Freemason awakens, do they have to pay all the arrears of annual dues from when they were dormant?

06) What is the connection between Freemasonry and Judaism? Is the Star of David used in lodges, as well as the six-armed candlestick, for example?

07) What is the official relationship of Freemasonry with the Catholic Church and of the Catholic Church with Freemasonry?

08) Are there indications of good conduct regarding sexuality, such as practicing abstinence, being married, or the use of contraceptives?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    09) How is someone who is not interested in attending dinners viewed? For example, a person may be more introverted and prefer a one-on-one meeting in a quiet place rather than a dinner with many people in a possibly noisy place. Would this person be seen as uninvolved?

    10) If I were initiated, could I freely discuss with my wife when and where the meetings are, without discussing the content and the people present? Or are there meetings that must be kept secret?

    11) How is an unemployed person trying to join viewed? Are they seen as lazy and therefore rejected?

    12) Why is it necessary to dress in jacket and tie? These are modern clothes that are not "traditionally" Masonic. As long as I present myself clean and decently, couldn't I also come, for example, in jeans and a t-shirt like Steve Jobs?

    13) Does an initiate learn the meanings of all the best-known symbols, or does he learn them gradually as he rises in rank?

    14) Does what is done in meetings have to do with the law of attraction or Kabbalah or alchemy or other types of magic?

    15) How is a Freemason not interested in advancing in rank viewed?

    16) Are there examples of people who were in a bad state, such as unemployed, with little money, depressed, with addictions, who thanks to Freemasonry have "taken control" of their lives and have given them a clear turn that they could not have otherwise?

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    17) Do Freemasons recognize ranks among themselves with specific greetings? If so, do lower-ranked ones know the greetings of higher-ranked ones?

    18) Are there disabled people within Freemasonry? For example, people in wheelchairs? Or are they excluded because they are unable to participate in the initiation ritual?

    19) How long does the initiation ritual last? Is it carried out in a single day?

    20) One of the ideals is freedom. But I see that all participants have a rather boring "conformist" aesthetic style that does not express personality. How would, for example, long hair or earrings be viewed?

    21) If initiated in Italy, can one then freely participate in lodges in other countries? Or is there an acceptance process or new initiation?

    22) I have heard of counter-initiation, what would that be?

    23) Are the 33 Scottish degrees connected to the 33 vertebrae and the years of Christ?

    24) Psychedelics are substances that can be found in plants such as ayahuasca, psilocybin mushrooms, acacia, etc. They are substances that have been used for millennia and have the potential to evoke mystical experiences and change the way of thinking. How is the use of psychedelics viewed? Are they condemned because they are illegal or for other reasons? Are there exceptions? Are drugs used in rituals? (including alcohol)

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This world is controlled by Lucifer, who deceived the nations with his Freemasonic builders. One day the synagogue of Satan shall bow down before the overcomer, who is a Christian, from Revelation 3:7-13 (google it). This overcomer shall start the beginning of the time when the saints shall rule with rods of iron, while the manchild of Revelation 12 is raptured before Satan can assassinate him.

    It's Jesus in the body of Christ us born again with the Holy Ghost VS the body of Satan who are the people of disobedience working in the angel of the air who is also Lucifer.

    Once the world acknowledges Satans defeat, then let us elect a new president that shall reveal the truth, eventosay the shape of the earth, and the nature of space above.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God of Freemasonry bows down to the overcomer of Revelation 3:7-13

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1. the degrees reflect the meaning of the symbols
    2. no comment
    3. no comment
    4. participating in the rites are not negotiable, however, some advance quicker than others
    5. this depends on the lodge
    6. judaism like all major religions throughout history are studied
    7. catholicism is studied, but the relationship depends on the lodge
    8. sex beyond the scope of an academic dialog is not discussed
    9. this depends on the lodge
    10. this depends on the lodge
    11. this depends on the lodge
    12. this depends on the lodge
    13. see 1
    14. no comment
    15. this depends on the lodge
    16. I don't know of any
    17. the ranks are highly compartmentalized
    18. there are
    19. no comment
    20. this depends on the lodge
    21. this depends on the lodge
    22. no comment
    23. no comment
    24. freemasonry does NOT engage in any illegal activity

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thank you. You've been really short but better than nothing.
      Can you recommend me a book or two that address those questions?

      What I've learned about the freemasons, is its best not to speak about that which one does not understand.

      Good point. I'm not making conjectures at this point. It's all mysterious and open to possibilities, that's why I'm here asking questions.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Can you recommend me a book or two that address those questions?
        sorry, but I don't know of any public literature that does

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You write in the same style Joseph Smith translated the facsimiles. I 99% do believe you are a Freemason. As for number 2 OP, there are real physical things even Mormons do and did. It's not all just metaphorical and one of the initiation rites is miming your neck sliced.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and one of the initiation rites is miming your neck sliced.
        Here op. This is a little jab aimed at me? I am a profane interested in the art and if some of the questions I asked "break" the Masonic secret, then you are free not to answer. I am convinced that most of the questions are completely innocent, and I would probably find the answers in some serious Masonic book (which at this point I should start reading anyway).

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1) Yes, symbols have a meaning explicitly told during rites but also esoteric meanings one is supposed to intuit as he advances. What a laymember puts into it is what he gets out of it.
      2) 🙂
      3) Need a reference from a mason, but they're aching for new blood so I imagine they'll look into and accept anyone interested if he has adequate character.
      4) Yearly until 3rd degree but it can vary. Some just do their three steps then bounce.
      5) Yes.
      6) :), but freemasons worship a god called the Great Architect of the Universe. They allow members to affirm the god of their faiths but it is not the one the organization has despite the doubletalk.
      7) Many freemasons are Catholics but few devout Catholics are freemasons.
      8) I don't understand the question, but see 7. Freemasonry is open to the lgbtqia+ community.
      9) See 4. If you like the vibe, you'll probably like helping out.
      10) It's fine. You're not supposed to talk about what goes on in the meetings.
      11) Not good for joining, but there are nepos. You won't be kicked out for being unemployed.
      12) Freemasonry is about nurturing future pillars of the community so you can pass the torch. Dress code depends on lodge and type of meeting. People in blue collar areas aren't wearing tuxedos.
      13) See 1.
      14) 🙂
      15) See 4. Freemasonry is a brotherhood for life if you remain of good moral (social) character.
      16) No. You get out what you put into it.
      17) It can get elaborate like all pyramidal secret clubs, yet a secret message is only good if you can identify the messenger.
      18) Yes, see 8.
      19) A couple hours
      20) See 12. You do need to bathe.
      21) Some lodges are linked and others aren't. If you move to a different area, you can transfer. You can visit a linked lodge but what you are allowed to witness can vary.
      22) Not familiar with a rite but if I understand it right, it is moving in the opposite direction spiritually.
      23) 🙂
      24) :), but they don't pass the peace pipe at meetings.
      What said, except lol at 24.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thank you. I wrote a mail to my lodge.
        I was detailed on why I want to join, but did not tell anything about myself. I'm so attracted by free-masonry but I'm afraid that my current state (unemployed, unskilled), would have them reject me.
        It's been a week and they didn't answer. How do you suggest should I move? Write another mail with more details about myself? Try another lodge? Directly contact a Mason (via web)?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Be patient, one week is nothing. Criminal background checks for employment can take longer lol Directly contacting a mason if you know one is a good idea.
          You can try a different lodge but you should wait a couple months because you'll seem desperate and not capable of keeping silent. Honestly, you should try more community outreach and finding employment before trying again. If you volunteer at community events that leave a footprint, it'll give someone looking at you something positive to find. Try to establish a digital footprint that shows you are an organic human with minor flaws but few actual vices. Try not to associate with people being watched by the police. But if you are going out of your way to sink time into that, idk why you wouldn't put that effort toward gaining employment.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thank you for the response. Ok, a little more information about me. Clean criminal background. I've worked some sporadic unskilled jobs. In the last two years, I've tried to seriously get into the world of music, releasing a couple of albums and one that I'm trying to release with a good label. It's been a failure. Despite people complimenting my music, in the end, no one listens to it. During this time, I also discovered that I have a degenerative disease, which will probably impact my ability to work in the future (it's already doing so to a small extent). This all makes me feel unsuitable for a fraternity of excellent men like Freemasonry. I fear I'm not at that level. I have a deep interest in spirituality and a strong desire to apply altruism in my life, so your advice to volunteer still seems very good to me. Anyway, thank you, I'll be patient, in the meantime, I'll work to fill those gaps I feel I have. Let's put it this way, the path to approaching Freemasonry is itself a path of improvement.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I know a blind man with down syndrome who served as the master of a lodge for a year. I think you should be ok

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          based on what you wrote in the OP you are going to
          1. Be much more interested in masonry than most guys at the lodge
          2. Take it much more seriously
          3. Probably be the only guy (or one of few) in the lodge who is interested in the esoteric deeper meanings of the craft
          t. joined last year thinking I would find like minded guys but it really is a volunteer club for old guys. At least in the USA

          Advice:
          Get a job. They might let you in without one but generally you need to be able to support yourself, if they believe masonry would be a financial burden to you they may reject you for the moment
          Reach out to the Grand Lodge of your jurisdiction. When I reached out to mine, they put me into direct contact with the master of the lodge near me, and I was having dinner with them a week later.
          Be prepared to be disappointed in the level of interest you will see in the other members as it regards to /x/ related topics.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is kind of reassuring. Thank you.

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  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What I've learned about the freemasons, is its best not to speak about that which one does not understand.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    LUCIFER MORNINGSTAR

    THE TRUE LODGE EXISTS IN THE MIND'S EYE

    >Psychic Police
    >Passion begins within
    >Take in the good shit
    >Cut the Crap

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bamp

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's gay

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This world is controlled by Lucifer, who deceived the nations with his Freemasonic builders. One day the synagogue of Satan shall bow down before the overcomer, who is a Christian, from Revelation 3:7-13 (google it). This overcomer shall start the beginning of the time when the saints shall rule with rods of iron, while the manchild of Revelation 12 is raptured before Satan can assassinate him.

    It's Jesus in the body of Christ us born again with the Holy Ghost VS the body of Satan who are the people of disobedience working in the angel of the air who is also Lucifer.

    Once the world acknowledges Satans defeat, then let us elect a new president that shall reveal the truth, eventosay the shape of the earth, and the nature of space above.

    A Nobody defeats Lucifer (Most hardcore one yet)

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1/2
    >Any freemason lurking /x/?
    probably
    >I got some questions
    freemasons can't answer questions about freemasonry and musn't act as freemasons in public so people acting like freemasons here aren't, but a lot of people can answer the questions you asked.

    >1
    yes
    >2
    depends on the lodge
    >3
    depends on if you're interesting or not
    >4
    6 months to 1 year, and for initiated to master / grand master it depends a lot on how you act
    >5
    Don't think so but they'll have to answer some questions and do some stuff to get back in the lodge's good graces, and regardless most freemasons don't go "dormant", they either stay masons or they leave
    >6
    masonry and it's rites take root in abrahamic religions despite being a (mostly) secular movement, the israeli scriptures are sometimes studied, depends a lot on the lodge since freemasonry as a whole is very decentralized
    the six pointed star is sometimes used but not as a symbol of judaism, the menorah isn't used outside of potential israeli lodges
    >7
    You can't be a catholic and a freemason, that also goes for orthodoxy, freemasonry is opposed to the papacy and "catholics" who enter the order must show an opposition to the papacy
    >8
    depends on the lodge
    >9
    uninvolved no but unreliable yes, being a "normie" and not having eyes on you is the best course of actions
    >10
    you can't talk openly about freemasonry to your wife or family, and women can't be masons in classical freemasonry so don't try to get your wifey to join
    >11
    no, while being fortuned is prefered people are selected on the basis of if they can be useful and help the organisation, the lodge may prefer a hardworking lower class individual who's just unlucky to a rich slacker, also if you join you won't stay unemployed for long
    >12
    jeans and tshirt aren't "clean and decent", steve jobs can do that because he's steve jobs, dress codes have to be respected, and that applies to all matters of life, not just freemasonry lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      2/2
      >13
      "gradually", kind of, some lodges have their own symbols
      >14
      depends on the lodge, you rank and the subject(s) tackled in the session, some are boring, some are "schizo"
      >15
      he's not "viewed", most are happy being in the secret boys club so most aren't going to bat an eye, also the higher ranks are mostly boring and only for the passionate
      >16
      unemployed, yes, as I said earlier, you'll have it easier finding a job, nobody's going to give you free bucks tho, the lodge will help you in time of need but hates freeloaders and you'll have to give back somehow
      >17
      can't say
      >18
      depends on the handicap, wheelchair is ok
      >19
      usually, sometimes longer, sometimes longer on accident (happened in France not so long ago lol)
      >20
      freedom has different meanings depending on the interlocutor, the athenians would tell you than being well behaved and not sticking out is a form of freedom, take care of yourself (not too much, just be normal) and it should be ok
      >21
      depends on the hierarchy, I don't know about Italy but in Francophone countries there are multiple lodges and you won't be able to go to one of them if you're part of an other one, might especially be the case with italy considering your loaded history on the matter
      >22
      can't say
      >23
      can't say, imo they're full of shit
      >24
      once again, depends a lot on the lodge, usually you keep the mind sharp and you're shouldn't be addicted to anything (definition of freedom) but there can be exercises with such products depending on your lodge and the people in it, yes.

      Hope that helps

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