literally why can i ap

why do i keep getting heart palpatations man, i practice mediation,etc, ive been trying for over 2 months with no success, gotten close a few times but i always frick it up by panicing

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If it makes you feel better I've been trying to AP for 7 years with no success and only once I reached the vibrational stage. Like the first 4 years I tried daily.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i make it to the vibration stage just fine, almost nightly, even. i dont know why

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you are vaxxed? well i know you are so there goes the answer to your question.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      im not vaxxed moron

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ok then i give you an advice. you gotta try ap when you wake up at 8am go to the bathroom, refresh your sheets and then go back to the bed. never ap at night or evening. Use ladder or rope that you climb up ( out of body ) visualisation. make sure to relax every muscle top to bottom. That is how I did it. it was scary I returned to the body and never tried it again. Maybe will try one day again. good luck anon.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I hope for the best for you anon, and others too.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You're trying too hard. The key is relaxation. The fact that you're getting to the vibrational stage is very good though.

    The panicking is absolutely normal. It's a new and weird experience for your body. Repetition will normalize the feeling and the panic will go away, you'll get there. Then you'll find more things to panic at.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Here is the actual truth,
    Astral projection does not exist, it’s all lucid dreaming, it comes easier to some people. Everyone can do it but it’s not a natural state. Your brain is not meant to be conscious while you sleep in the normal way. By forcing this you are in fact forcing a kind of moron state as is evident by the volume of larpers regarding this state over the years.
    Consider yourself blessed you don’t have the messed up brain that does this trash easily.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Based and most likely true. It comes to me very easily and I've been doing it for 15 years now. I've always had the assumption that it's nothing more than lucid dreaming until I had a few experiences that made me open to the idea of it potentially being something more.
      >By forcing this you are in fact forcing a kind of moron state
      It's probably just this though

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It can be both lucid dreaming and its own completely separate thing. The truth is our brains know far more than we can actually access, by Astral Projection you may be able to consciously access this information. At least that is my theory.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >At least that is my theory.
        Post this at the start next time so it’s clear that nothing after it is of any worth.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They're pretty clearly not the same tho.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They’re pretty clearly exactly the same bro.
        If you do any of this you’ll see they are the same bro.
        You might think you are floating outside your body bro but you’ll find objects aren’t where they should be bro.
        You’ll find the whole thing is unstable - like a dream because it is bro
        You can’t find or do anything that can be proven in the real world once you wake up bro.
        Sorry bro.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >no u
          Just a dream bro.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      real AP requires real spiritual fuel
      which 99.999999999999999999999% do not have

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why is your post 100% LARP?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm sorry you think daydreaming until your body buzzes makes you think you've traveled the astral planes
          Without real spiritual accomplishment, you are daydreaming or mentally jerking off
          You, I think we all know its the latter

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What are you talking about. you reply to the wrong post?
            I replied to

            real AP requires real spiritual fuel
            which 99.999999999999999999999% do not have

            I said none of that shit you are spouting in my post
            >real spiritual fuel
            This is a LARP if it’s you. You made this shit up. You are a fricking larper. You ruin /x/ with your shitty larps. Did you forget your frog image

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >You made this shit up.
            its always hilarious when pure fricking noobs come and say shit like this
            you have no experience, kid
            you've never sat with a teacher
            you've never experienced real demonstrable spiritual potential from someone else
            you've never astral traveled
            now have your ego attachments produce some more ignorant vitriol for the board to see

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >real spiritual fuel
            No one else has ever said this.
            You made it up. End of.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            what the frick are you talking about

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Lmao. Mighty sage larp. Never gets old.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            what the frick are you talking about

            >real spiritual fuel
            No one else has ever said this.
            You made it up. End of.

            I don't agree with gatekeeping but astral travel is pretty hard to do tbh and it's nothing like lucid dreams

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If it’s hard to do them why do most first experiences happen unexpectedly?
            Stop larping.

            I literally been trying for many months yet no avail until one time I Ap'd unintentionally in a horrific fricking nightmare and i've been traumatized by it, But still whatever

            Thats a dream. These threads are just larpers. LARP, LARP, LARP
            Astral threads summon larpers all day long.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you do know sleep isn't necessary to ap.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No
      People can share astral experiences
      No one can share your experiences in dreams

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >People can share astral experiences
        only under very specific circumstances where you're both in the same instance as it were. It is also perfectly possible for two people to end up in different spaces where they're dealing with weights and balances from their own life decisions past and present.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, we would have to go to the same place, to experience things together, that's kind of how you know, reality works..

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            With the added concern that unlike reality, there are beings who support and fabricate and maintain the infrastructure that allows such things as dreamtravel or astral projection. The same place does not exist for both people in such lower spaces.

            There are places in the higher planes (for me they're usually sunny as opposed to nightly or lightless) where you can definitely meet and greet other beings vut that does not mean all other parts instantly become aware of it. Your own unconsciousness affects some spaces you can visit so if you and me would both meet at cathedral xyz we'd both see different things. It requires both parties to have free navigation and unbothered senses.

            I've had an instance of remotely speaking to an old friend when they were almost ready to do an hero and its likely that that is supported by the same infrastructure. I've never felt a need to develop the nightly thing when you can also just do it while awake. Maybe I should practice it again.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Hm, yes, it is possible to miss each other in that way, like going to a different version of the same place. An instance as you put it before.
            However, these places have their own sort of will. I am unsure if this is what people believe about the place, what has happened there, or what spiritual beings experience about the place, or a combination of these. I do know this will makes the places hard or impossible to change to my will. Such as I could not change the color of the cathedral walls to a green just because I felt like it. In a dream, I definitely can change the wall color to green.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No. Just a dream in your head and that’s it.
        Observe the following argument between larpers of which you are one and you age both making up stuff. Totally worthless.

        >People can share astral experiences
        only under very specific circumstances where you're both in the same instance as it were. It is also perfectly possible for two people to end up in different spaces where they're dealing with weights and balances from their own life decisions past and present.

        Yes, we would have to go to the same place, to experience things together, that's kind of how you know, reality works..

        With the added concern that unlike reality, there are beings who support and fabricate and maintain the infrastructure that allows such things as dreamtravel or astral projection. The same place does not exist for both people in such lower spaces.

        There are places in the higher planes (for me they're usually sunny as opposed to nightly or lightless) where you can definitely meet and greet other beings vut that does not mean all other parts instantly become aware of it. Your own unconsciousness affects some spaces you can visit so if you and me would both meet at cathedral xyz we'd both see different things. It requires both parties to have free navigation and unbothered senses.

        I've had an instance of remotely speaking to an old friend when they were almost ready to do an hero and its likely that that is supported by the same infrastructure. I've never felt a need to develop the nightly thing when you can also just do it while awake. Maybe I should practice it again.

        Hm, yes, it is possible to miss each other in that way, like going to a different version of the same place. An instance as you put it before.
        However, these places have their own sort of will. I am unsure if this is what people believe about the place, what has happened there, or what spiritual beings experience about the place, or a combination of these. I do know this will makes the places hard or impossible to change to my will. Such as I could not change the color of the cathedral walls to a green just because I felt like it. In a dream, I definitely can change the wall color to green.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If you don't believe in astral projecting, why did you come in here? Talk about useless.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I come here for truth and justice and destroying larps.
            I believe in it but in its true form. It is just lucid dreaming. This thread is not extreme larping. Why come here to LARP? Lies are useless. So useless.

            damn obe's and nde's are in tour head too must be made up.

            From the context of your shitty comment it is clear what you mean.
            Yes.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          damn obe's and nde's are in tour head too must be made up.

  6. 1 month ago
    sage

    Are you a Leo?
    It sounds like a throat chakra problem. Your heart (physical body) is having trouble connecting to your spiritual body (third eye, crown)
    Do you sometimes feel the heart beat in your throat?

    Little hint -- your throat chakra relys heavily on your feet. Sore feet and a lack of balance can indicate blockages/forcing in the physical body

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Stop being a fat frick.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I get it. So being fat holds the astral body down. Only anorexia can unleash the full power of the astral. I see. I get it now.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >unironically true

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >two months

    Ok so use the method described by the story of Milo of Croton for at least a year and then try again. Your antennas need tuning.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I tried a couple of days ago and it felt like I was pushed back in.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Had problems with this. Too intense. What helped for me was jhana meditation. It is similar in trying to induce those vibration / energy bursts, but it is somewhat more controllable or ride-able for me.

    I combine with metta meditation first, to visualize the energy not so much as bursting out of you, but as attracting it/inviting it, and to show gratitude and thanks towards the feeling, as its not scary or overwhelming, but actually a nice and exciting feeling.

    This video introduces the first jhana and gives some tips for when the feeling may be a bit overwhelming and pulls you out of it.

    happy and safe travels!

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hello, ap bros
    So I hapenned to astral project for the first time a few days ago.
    BUT there was problem: I couldn't see shit, I managed to leave my body and in a a few seconds my vision become obscured, as if I was blind by smoke.
    What this could it be?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You tried to see with your eyes which were clearly behind your eyelids. Try touching stuff around you and vision will appear on its own.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Try to relax, and uh, don't try so hard.
      By trying hard to see things you likely activated your flesh eyes, instead of your astral eyes. You don't normally think hard about seeing flesh things, and just let your body do the work right? Same here with your astral body. Trust yourself more.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    real

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I literally been trying for many months yet no avail until one time I Ap'd unintentionally in a horrific fricking nightmare and i've been traumatized by it, But still whatever

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