is there a way to force enlightenment?

is there a way to force enlightenment?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nope. Sorry.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Schizo Retard

      what the frick do you know

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He knows.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Schizo Retard

          knows ur a homosexual

      • 4 weeks ago
        Inversion

        Enlightenment is a process made of realizations and understanding the knowledge or wisdom bestowed upon us. Enlightenment could be done in 5 mins meditation but if you don't grasp the real meaning it would like cutting water with a sword.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Enlightenment is a process made of realizations and understanding the knowledge or wisdom bestowed upon us
          why do so many clueless people believe this
          the pinnacle of human achievement is not an intellectual process

          • 4 weeks ago
            Inversion

            You are jumping on conclusion. If I told you just to be or to erase yourself you'll probably understood wrongly, but it's my definition and works with me. Maybe it will work with you, maybe not, maybe it would be better to seek by yourself your own method and when you'll find out, you'll understood what everyone was trying to say to you before. That's why enlightenment can be done within:
            > 7 mins
            > 7 hours
            > 7 days
            > 7 months
            > 7 years

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            countless transformation bodies are not achieved in any of those timeframes

          • 4 weeks ago
            Inversion

            > countless transformation bodies
            But if you aren't your body, that means you are talking about transformation of the mind or the heart in his non-physical state. (or realizations)

            The Body doesn't matter is about Mind and Heart because their union create the Spirit or Consciousness.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >But if you aren't your body,
            of course one is not his flesh, but making the full achievement means having merged the spirit & body
            the energy reservoir is quite substantial for this
            master nan huai chin wrote that there are 3 ways to enter a realm: womb, egg, or spontaneous manifestation
            >that means you are talking about transformation of the mind or the heart in his non-physical state.
            its much more literal than this
            you create an above baseline energy potential
            cultivate it to superlative heights
            surpass the physiospiritual coefficient of friction
            what do you think "deities" are
            if one's practice is not producing real tangible results, then one is off a proper path
            there is no need to talk in flowery terms when you can talk in direct terms

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >enlightenment
            >7
            >we never learn

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  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No. You have to enlighten yourself from within. No one can help you, no one can tell you how, and frankly it won't make you feel better. Just let go and accept your shitty situation. Learn that all you really have control over is how you handle the stress in your life. I'm sorry to tell you so bluntly and sadly, honestly

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I find that people cannot help NOT helping. Every interaction is a piece out of place. Encouragement, animosity, ridicule, contempt and so on, every face of man is an opportunity.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Define enlightment and then explain to me how there are higher density entites that want to frick you up. How did they get there? Are they "enlightened"? Everything is a fricking lie even the good things and I'm fricking tired of this shit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        calm down there snowflake
        snowflakes are innumerable configurations, like souls
        you have to cultivate the light in order to realize some more potential
        but if you dont get the stillness first then the light will be weak

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically, by dying. I don't recommend it tho

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There is one way

      He gets it

      But you came come back
      Ayahuasca tricks the mind, the scholarly research calls it APD Ayahuasca perceived death
      It's not fun, it's just like it sounds, but you will perceive ultimate reality

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        this
        ego death is the closest to pure enlightenment you will get by forceful means
        not fun at all and can be very traumatic

      • 4 weeks ago
        Inversion

        Meditation trick your mind that you are dying and the body is being reborn immediately.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh...I've died a few times...explains some things.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fast for forty days? Idk

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      is your cave dry?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You don't exist
    There is no difference between me and you, the object you tell yourself you're typing, and the screen generating these words.

    This is a complete relief, now go, explore your new world.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    sure, but nobody wants to put in such levels of rote practice

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Test

    Just trying to see if spoiler tags work.

    [SPOILER] Text [/spoiler]

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hello, tourist.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Hello, tourist.
        Nah I used the site, just never had a reason to think of using a spoiler tag before (looks like it doesn't work, or maybe it only works on certain boards).

        I also don't know how to sage, because I was never so mad at someones thread that I wanted to take away from the post count and not bump it.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You identify as a deity. Meditate within that identification, whether it's samatha, vipassana, chakras, etc. It's still gonna take at least a lifetime though, but that's better than hundreds of lifetimes.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You identify as a deity
      preposterous
      its important to know these things when you're a king, you know

      • 4 weeks ago
        Elvis

        Huh?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Suffering and sacrifice.

  10. 1 month ago
    Thought leader of /pol/

    That's mahayan sec. They think someone who archived nirvana can come back to please poor creature here. That's closest for your force enlightenment.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's the bodhisattva vow, not enlightenment

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There is one way

      He gets it

      But you came come back
      Ayahuasca tricks the mind, the scholarly research calls it APD Ayahuasca perceived death
      It's not fun, it's just like it sounds, but you will perceive ultimate reality

      psychedelics are demonic. the mainstream Government Program MAPS is promoting and controlling psychedelics, and Maps is constantly promoting timmothy leary and leary thought he was crowley reincarnate https://youtu.be/AKrSHIFaAQw?si=bcDyzOa2LzJO8ogJ

      ?si=GwuoEoRCs7AxXeFo

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think so

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Enlightenment is partially about not forcing so naturally it wouldn't be caused by forcing

    The closest thing I can think of is tantra. But that isn't forced at all quite the opposite. Also most people won't be able to actualise it. Though it is a path. Another disclaimer, it can cause a negative powerful experience as opposed to positive power experience(s) which causes enlightenment. For example, you may become crazy, depressed or suicidal.

    I would say many people are enlightened without realising. It's like, be a good person. Attract positive karma. Do the right thing. And be happy.

    I would consider my stupid idiot teenager self more enlightened than my heavy smart adult self. Maybe don't complicate things, go with the flow, do the right thing and be happy.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, walk into the wilderness during a fast and stay there for at the very least a week. Sleep deprivation, the fasting and the stress will make sure you get insight even about the sweat of your balls.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yes. An advanced soul could force an awakening on you however unlikely they would be do actually do it.

    It's hard to describe how painful for you it would be and how severely you would regret this.

    the entire point of cultures and practices surrounding and codifying such topics is that it's a natural and human path meant to be walked and lived.

    "enjoy the journey", "it's the path not the destination", etc... are not just pleasantries.

    I worked diligently for 10 years before I started opening up for REAL and the first time I experienced it in full I wept and shook with fear crying out in my heart "I'm not ready!!"

    the infinite is no joke.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ok, what weren't you ready for?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think it would be appropriate to talk about in public.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          digits of profundity

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          wasted quints

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            nope.

            it's the power of powers.

            respect the digits.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I have to obey the magic numbers
            >because... umm...
            >I just have to, okay?!
            Ask me how I know you don't have a Faustian spirit

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          QUINTS

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            QUINT'N

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >awakening=enlightenment
      maybe some people are talking about lesser achievements here

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    few will tell you this but torture, immense physical pain over a long period of time i bet should speed it up 🙂 From dissasociation from your body due to the pain to true dissassociation from your EGO

    • 4 weeks ago
      Inversion

      That why you make preparation and purify yourself so you couldn't end up in a psychiatric ward..

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does emotional torture count?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have attempted to force certain levels of enlightenment upon others. They were not ready for it and it damaged them to varying degrees. A few who likely would have attained that degree of enlightenment at some point seemed to get it though. All in all I would not recommend attempting to force spiritual enlightenment upon others.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, only through great patience or great suffering. I’m sure the road is whispering to you, asking you to take a stroll… But dont blindly walk down a path just because it looks exciting. Choose carefully before the universe forces your hand.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Its all recorded by the angels, even the OP and his thread are stuck in the akashic field. Flies caught into indras web. God is a big lightning bolt thrower and he will throw it at these catposters who make fun of others by attempting to flip around words of a originally posted truth. Ai bots will mop them up anyway and they will be lost in the flaming garbage hell of eternal chat. While the ones you try to call cats their wisdom lives on throughout the ages as it its Gods knowledge and you pretend its yours by poluting it , corrupting it. But youre not attacking the person youre attacking God. You as all fools of history have done are attacking the messenger and butchering the message

    Clear warnings have been given to you mockers

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yes.
    with the vaccine, nano technology was administered to perturb the "biofield" (your aura, your energy system) to forcefully awaken the kundalini energy (holy spirit).

    it was an attempt to turn people forcefully into saints, because the saints have a magnetic covering or energetic shield, which will protect them from the very soong coming pole shift.

    the technology is however not safe, there is collateral damage and even if it managed to induce the process, kundalini awakening is no joke, its sort of like becoming a teenager, being in a transitiory phase, which has its ups and downs!
    lots of uncontrolled electrical currents buzzing through your entire system, while its going online for the first time.
    you can get knocked out, experience psychosis, develop sickness which can not be cured.
    you could even die.

    this is why it was traditionally awoken in the supervision of someone who already had it awoken (a guru), so that he can oversee and energetically alter your own biofield to lower the negative experiences, until it came fully online.

    the shift is gonna occur on the 21st of march, 2025.

    on the 22nd of march, which is 322, there will be lots of skull and bones on the planet. 80% of humanity will be wiped out.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are there any techniques I can use to verify if this biofield is active? I am unvaccinated and practicing continuous celibacy and meditation after awakening, about two years ago. I definitely feel this "life force", if it's part of it. It wasn't there when I was younger because I kept disturbing it. Shen wasn't being produced. Nowadays I'm very serious on it. Not perfect though... failed to maintain current a few times after my resolve. It's important to never feed mental ideas because it's like watering a plant. (Except in this case the leaves are serpents.)

      I haven't breached lucidity in the astral, but my dreams have multiple subconscious memories (i'm writing them down.)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        voluntary piloerection are the first "symptoms"

        permanent pressure in the forehead is another symptom.in islamic eschatology it says that jesus/mohammad will recognize their followers through a "white flame" on their foreheads.
        related: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37872485/#q37876445

        the egyptian pharaos have serpents coming out of their foreheads in their pictures, to depict it as well.

        it is the seal of God.
        you are organically achieving what the government is artificially trying to do to save mankind..

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >eschatology it says that jesus/mohammad will recognize their followers through a "white flame" on their foreheads.
          caveat, you have to be able to see with more than just your eyes to know, until a high enough achievement is made to make everyone see it, which is stupidly rare

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you have no idea about remote sensing, do you? you can sense whether someone has awakened their energy system or not from afar.
            and there is only one way to do it, which implies godliness....

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know about forcing. One has to have a magnetic center to even begin the path. Then walking and doing conscious labors and intentional sufferings along the way.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why are you asking us as if we can give you something you don't already have? Who is it that's trying to reach enlightenment? Why do you want to force enlightenment?
    You reach enlightenment when you achieve complete desirelessness, but the paradox would be in the fact that you're trying to desire desirelessness. So, enlightenment is just being wherever you are right now because only the eternal now exists.
    Enlightenment is just a point of view. It wouldn't really make sense if you asked us to make you see through an optical illusion or if you asked us to force a joke to make you laugh.
    I'd say just do what you normally do and enlightenment might happen or it might not. Although I have to say it often happens after severe emotional trauma/distress.
    Good luck anon.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What makes you think you have the force required, if it were possible?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      checked
      force=gongfu
      gongfu=energytime
      high amplitude coherence is required
      when resistance goes down, amplitude goes up

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you are an intuitive person and do LSD you will peek behind the curtain of funny visuals and upgraded music.
    Drugs wont lead you to englightment but for certain people it will provide the wedge that you can hammer later to break down the wall

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Abuse of psychoactive drugs in a solo setting will give you the conditions for potential enlightenment, but 99.9999% of the time this just leaves the individual somewhere on the schizophrenic spectrum. This tracks, because most people who need external prompting to achieve enlightenment never make it there anyway, they don't get immediate results and don't put in the reflection work and usually this combined with the world pressing on them to do something productive kills the instinct and they become a hylic.
    tl;dr if you have to ask, you're probably not gonna make it

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    perhaps we're all enlighten in some way

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    a few hits of dmt or 5-8g of dried shrooms in silent darkness will probably do it for you whether you like it or not
    the funny thing about enlightenment is that it merely implies an understanding your current situation
    what those drugs do is throw your mind around so it feels like a fish out of water for a while
    and the trick to enlightenment is getting the hint that there is water
    because a fish could live its whole life and never notice

    but that kinda begs the question what use is enlightenment?
    now that our fish knows a little about water, what can they do
    they still have gills and fins and no wings or legs
    maybe it's just the peace of mind knowing how wonderful water is for itself

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the funny thing about enlightenment is that it merely implies an understanding your current situation
      the funny thing about kids is they dont understand adult things

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    IM GOING TO KILL MYSELF

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >do a flip

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NDE? Might just work hphyy

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Theoretically yes.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mass murder. It's the central plot behind The Illuminatus Trilogy by RAW and Robert Shea.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Beat the shit out of them until they understand

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    5meo

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is no enlightenment. There is this
    >There is nothing. No assumption is real. Every assumption you make about reality creates that reality for you. There is nothing and nothing happened. There is no reincarnation trap. There is no loosh farm.
    You're welcome.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Inversion

      Yes enlightenment is just 'to be'. But is like describing nuclear fusion to an ant. You must use certain words and give some wisdom you can't give the last page of the book without some guidance.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Yes enlightenment is just 'to be'.
        moronic
        what is effectively happening is the surpassing of the physiospiritual coefficient of friction

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get more sunlight.

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In order to surpass one must transgress. Enlightenment is itself an achievement and so is worthless to the spirit.

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably not. If you could do it in a few minutes, it probably wouldn't be worth doing. Achieving enlightenment is a long and arduous path. It's similar to learning life lessons. A little kid can't just brute force themselves to having the wisdom and patience of their grandparents. That wisdom comes with time and hardship, and overcoming said hardship. Enlightenment is the same.

  37. 4 weeks ago
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