Is it so unfathomable that the voynich manuscript

Was just some medieval guys LARP book?
People do weird shit for fun, medieval people were just people

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  1. 1 month ago
    Trismegistus

    It's actually a grimoire that makes you obsessed with it because of the absurdity of it.

    Soz anon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So what magic can be worked from the Voynich manuscript?

      • 1 month ago
        Trismegistus

        You can already see it.

        No one has any idea what it is and it's been immortalized as a mysterious text. It could literally be a massive troll.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So you have no idea either. Got it.

          • 1 month ago
            Trismegistus

            If I did, why risk the spiritual implications of what could happen betraying the magnum opus of whoever created it, by revealing it?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >magnum opus
            Lmao... some rich dude with ridiculous money to throw away probably commissioned it on a lark. Imagine being him and invited to some other rich dude's crib and he's like "Dude, check out this copy of the Arbatel or Heptameron I got". And our rich dude's all non-plussed and thinks his host is a moron, so he's like "I'll make a joke grimoire and troll that idiot".

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, imagine being Johann Weyer and writing De Praestigis Daemonum mocking belief in witchcraft and then some occultist scribe cribbing from it to write the Lemegeton in all seriousness.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That scribe probably cribbed through the additional filter of Reginald Scott's Discoverie of Witchcraft, also meant to be a mockery of superstition.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The problem with this theory is that the illustrations in the voynich manuscript seem to have been done by an amateur (so probably the person who wrote it) whereas back then these books always had a professional illustrator do the drawings, especially if it was commissioned by some rich person.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The problem with your counter-theory is that commissioned work isn't always gonna be fricking brilliant, is it? We're probably dealing with a rich person who fiverred this joke grimoire then. It's at least more plausible than declaring the Voynich to be an actual grimoire and then being unable to talk about what magic is supposedly worked from it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Skinner released a book about the Voynich. There's three academics including him offering interpretations based on alchemy, astrology, grimoires, herbalism, etc. It's compelling but not convincing. And I personally wouldn't base any practice on someone else's conjecture. I'd rather work with grimoires that have things explicitly stated as much as possible. It was interesting reading though.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Well at the very least you'd have to factor in the creation of a language into the larp.
    But even then why is it so hard to crack, I think they've decoded languages with less to go on than this.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That’s part of the larp
      It’s just gibberish

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think it's that easy to write gibberish to look like an actual language well enough to fool linguists.
        Sort of like how it's almost impossible to speak gibberish for 5 minutes straight and have it sound like a real language, even to the untrained ear they'll probably realize it's not a real language after less than a minute.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's literally the same word over and over again

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Looks like some form of elvish

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Was just some medieval guys LARP book?
      Not only this, it was actually a forgery, sold as a rare esoteric MS to a gullible prince.

      >Well at the very least you'd have to factor in the creation of a language into the larp.
      There is no language. Its syntax is gibberish and it contains no semantic information. This is why cryptographers poured over it for so long. But it's not encrypted. It's just babble.

      I don't think it's that easy to write gibberish to look like an actual language well enough to fool linguists.
      Sort of like how it's almost impossible to speak gibberish for 5 minutes straight and have it sound like a real language, even to the untrained ear they'll probably realize it's not a real language after less than a minute.

      >I don't think it's that easy to write gibberish to look like an actual language well enough to fool linguists.
      It never fooled them. It was understood very early on it doesn't conform to the syntax of natural languages.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >sold as a rare esoteric MS to a gullible prince
        Lmao slow clap. That's a fricking outstanding job.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The illustrations showed fleshy organ-like technology. That didn't show up in fiction until hundreds of years later.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The illustrations showed fleshy organ-like technology.
      I'm still waiting for this tech.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The book might have been brought to Earth.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Want to hear my weird theory?

    I noticed while reading the wheel of time series (which i believe is channeled work, combined with very accurate history) a character named Verin Mathwin. A small mention of her journals and what was in them. There's a second book out there somewhere with the translation key in it. Sadly i think the key is locked up in the vatican archives..

    I think in a weird way a medium who can see and talk to spirits may be the only way to connect with the author to unlock its pages. Been thinking about this for a year and asked a medium who is a friend to see if she can get anything. Sadly shes working on a serial killer case currently so cant focus on it.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, aside from the language being indecipherable I don't think the images are all that weird.

    Think of it like this. Let's start from the 2 most obvious depictions in the script, which are both recurring.
    1) Plants
    2) People bathing
    So before we explain the stranger imagery let's make the assumption that this entire text is just some herbal guide, possibly with some idea that bathing in plant extracts of some kind has health benefits.

    Then notice that most of the plant imagery exaggerates minor details about the plants, this leads me to believe the text also is about some theory on how plants function.
    Then you can explain the stranger images (like pic related) as just being either some kind of whimsical cartoon (like if you wrote a childrens book on how plants work you might draw cartoon characters inside the plants doing things, but really the main focus is the plant part), or some actual belief the author had that little people (fairies or something) were responsible for certain plant functions.

    I know this is a bit of a stretch, but it's really not that much of a stretch. I could easily see someone writing a book in the manner described above, and it would perfectly explain most of the images in the manuscript.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn’t explain why they’re naked pregnant ladies or why the plant drawings are of plants that don’t exist

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, I don't think you can say for sure they're pregnant although they do look a little on the chunky side. But even if they were pregnant then you could just say these herbal bathing guide is meant for pregnant women or something.

        >or why the plant drawings are of plants that don’t exist
        If that's true then I guess I would withdraw my idea, because it definitely wouldn't explain that.
        But then I have to ask how sure are you that they don't exist? Did you just read that as a comment somewhere on a blog or something, or is there some scientist(s) that looked into it and actually concluded those plants don't exist?

        Like I said it does look as if the features of the plants are exaggerated. Which just again leads to it being intentionally kind of cartoony, they could have exaggerated features of plants that they were discussing in the text to make it easier to see, so someone taking the images too literally might think plants with such exaggerated features don't exist

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If something cannot be translated its simply because it is incomplete and if its incomplete it cannot contain information. It's fake.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > many of the plant drawings in the herbal section seem to be composite: the roots of one species have been fastened to the leaves of another, with flowers from a third

    probably means the language the text is written in is a polylingual substitution cipher, using 3 different other languages. you would probably need to know german, arabic and italian to understand it.

  9. 1 month ago
    Trismegistus

    He's describing machines and wires.

  10. 1 month ago
    Trismegistus

    Hypothetical Scenario:

    You are somewhat of a spiritual person, maybe a a holy man or a monk - you're experienced in the world of visions to a fair extant etc.

    Regardless of the catalyst, somehow you're seeing visions of the future. The insatiable curiosity to see how, if, when or why the world ends is an immortal one.

    This man from the 15th century - with all of his understandings being those of the 15th century as well, is now peering into the future, could be now or even a few hundred years from now. Whether what he's describing is good or evil isn't the point - obviously machines played such a dramatic role in the vision that it everything else he was scrying insignificant of mention.

    All he could think about was the machines but didn't know what the hell we was looking at and tried his best to get it across.

    OR - I have no idea what I'm talking about.

    • 1 month ago
      Trismegistus

      i.e.

      What if peered into Silicon Valley or something like that - what if peered into a regular setting of a normal person in the the era he was seeing. Machines were such a prominent role in his visions, and now seeing how we can notice a symbiosis being developed as well today with tech and mankind - It's the same theory behind aliens being called 'gods' because of a lack of description etc. (if that's what happened)

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    AI will crack all of it

  12. 1 month ago
    Trismegistus

    These are meant to portray a lamp or a light from a machine.

    Look at the book as if the depictions were off robotic and mechanical parts instead of plant life and nature based. Look at the prominence and his emphasis on the roots and how they curl up - THEY'RE CABLES

    • 1 month ago
      Trismegistus

      https://i.imgur.com/C7byTOi.jpeg

      Pic related.

      To reinforce that theory, take a look at a 15th century Chandelier and get back to me after your minds done being blown

  13. 1 month ago
    Trismegistus

    Pic related.

  14. 1 month ago
    Trismegistus

    It's an entire book about different lights he saw, which he probably thought were alien species or something.

    Or he saw even further into the future, observing tech we still don't have available that members of the public can engage with.

    Or even further, and it's weird bio-organic machine life that enslaves the human race like the Matrix.

  15. 1 month ago
    Trismegistus

    This should definitely be used as a reference index in the future when tech evolves a few hundred years down the line.

    Whatever he made a description of is obviously significant. The diagrams at the end of the book tell me enough to know that this guy was serious and he was trying to describe the internet.

    That's what it's gotta be pointing to in it's overall expression - the next big thing that will change everything - like fire did, like weapons did, like the newspaper did, like writing did

    That's all it is. 15th century persecution of individuals interested in anything besides what the church wanted is probably why it's so heavily veiled, but it was obviously his life's work and felt it was necessary. Like the old chemists.

    • 1 month ago
      Trismegistus

      >Shows what he saw

      >Tries to explain what he can't draw, i.e internet through symbolism and allegory

      >Explanation of astrological movements and events that coincide with this next stage of humanity, how it all lines up etc.

      Pic related. He's trying to describe the flow of information via a web, like the internet.

  16. 1 month ago
    Trismegistus

    >The transfer of data between people over vast distances
    >Pipes being analogous to cables, wires etc.

  17. 1 month ago
    Trismegistus

    Satellites in space pouring information to the Earth.

    Whatever satellites he saw looked like accorns - anything that exists today?

    • 1 month ago
      Trismegistus
    • 1 month ago
      DoctorGreen

      >Whatever satellites he saw looked like accorns - anything that exists today?
      uh? if your theory is true. is it related to the winged-beast gods and their acorns?

  18. 1 month ago
    RON_MEXICO_BWC

    I think you might be on to something but the fact that all the women are pregnant, and that some of the plants / cables are directly connected to the woman’s fetus, I think it has to mean something more along the lines of souls / conciousness

    • 1 month ago
      Trismegistus

      Could be but it seems too surface level to spend your entire life writing a cryptic book about that.

  19. 1 month ago
    Trismegistus

    Ah frick.

    Project BB

    • 1 month ago
      RON_MEXICO_BWC

      What do you mean

  20. 1 month ago
    Mother-anon

    it's written in arabic, europeans were the original arabs (europa - araba). this is also why many of the european paintings depicting jesus also have indecipherable arabic text in it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nice pic

      • 1 month ago
        Mother-anon

        it's pseudo-kufic, in medieval times europeans would imitate arabic script in their art for no discernible reason. many times this pseudo-kufic text appears in religious context where it makes even less sense since why wouldn't the westerners write in their liturgical language? it is far more likely that there was a forgotten form of arabic being spoken here (which is also the reason why no one really caught on latin as well, it's just a corruption of arabic).

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://medcraveonline.com/JHAAS/JHAAS-07-00262.pdf
          Most likely written in Andalusi Arabic and concerned with Catharism but more broadly Christian Dualism.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ok so i see u only got 7 replies: its bullshit

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hold on baby

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why do many letters and paragraphs seem to be repeated?
    it even seems to be nonsense
    something like
    >T-he sun rises in the morning and comes back in the morning, in the morning, in the morning
    >air rises and comes back late late late late late
    >wind rises and comes back early early early early early
    >T-he sun rises in the morning...

    I see that there are several texts like this, they remind me of the poem classes in school when we had to analyze poems and look at the metrics and rhymes kek

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    From looking at the pictures it seems it's showing how to perform chemical abortions.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What makes you think that

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's an alchemical work. You can't crack it with your left brain alone, which is why it stumps midwits.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I remember when this moronic shit first got popular on the internet after a news article falsely claimed it had just been found when in reality it had been hanging around for almost a century

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't matter even if it was figured out, some morons here to make claims about it till the sun implodes simply to be contrarian

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you're a moron then, voynich manuscript was always popular and was always known of, it was in the vatican archives ffs

      Doesn't matter even if it was figured out, some morons here to make claims about it till the sun implodes simply to be contrarian

      why is that a bad thing? let people brainstorm
      nothing about it has been figured out yet anyways

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