is fiction sickening?

>great epics were always ideal and legendary history 'till Tolkien, fabules were all oral 'till Grims and Lewis Caroll
>cartoons didn't exist 'till the 1920s'
>visual mass medium (movies, TV, the web, video games) weren't even conceivable mere 15 decades ago
We never lived with that much fiction before and now we seem hooked, addicted to it. How is no one talking about this?
Shouldn't that be dangerous? What are the long term effects of living with the unreal and entertainement 24/7?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagination is divine.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah
      but it feels like we middle class gays live to consume other's imaginations handed on a silver plate. We live in aristocratic levels of delusion and pampering and can't afford rent, man. What for?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >but it feels like we middle class gays live to consume other's imaginations handed on a silver plate. We live in aristocratic levels of delusion and pampering

        Speak for yourself. My imagination makes me a builder.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm talking about new forms of imagination-based media in general, smart ass. You don't consume any of that?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You don't consume any of that?

            Not anywhere near as much as I used to. I've all but completely given up movies, video games. They are not engaging for me anymore and my own thoughts are more fun and fulfilling. They also directly influence my reality.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ur a node

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I mean most new shit is thoughtless drivel, there is still definitely thought provoking art being produced, but its getting harder to find. Like the other poster said, do your own art and build some shit. If youre looking for some fiction try some books meant for adults. By todays standards Tolkein is a young adult author, but there are countless authors and fiction book series' out there that will really make you think and challenge your views if you let it. I recently finished "Malazan Book of the Fallen", and it completely changed my life. The author is an archeologist and draws a lot from history and from his study. Its not a series for everyone, its really dense and long, but those who like it seem to love it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What is not divine is stories written by a corporate board to increase the revenue of corporations that don't care about you. AKA 90% of fictional stories these days.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fiction is someone elses imagination dumbass. Just like porn is someone elses sexual fantasy. Should we evaluate our relationship with fiction? It's something to think about.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fabules were all oral 'till Grims
    post-literate era Zoomer critiquing literature

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it’s not a critique.
      Quit assuming the worst of people. Jot everything is dense and opinionated.
      if you know any pre-1810s fabule that isn’t oral tradition rewinded by propaganda and the author’s opinions, show me.
      My previous statement is prob biased tho, I do admit. But, with the exception of the Tale of Genji, I can’t think anything that came before the victorian era and wasn’t basically poetic ucrony.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If something is quality, then it is quality, stories teach lessons or share possible viewpoints or are made to just use up time in creative and imaginative ways.
    Yes, it is true that nowadays it's a game of feeding as much stimulus into your brain and consuming others's uninspired imagination, but if something is inspired holds true to reality and is trying to convey something, it is worth the read.
    If something does enrich life and makes you feel as if you are not alone, it is worth it.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well, there are people talking about it, there are articles and documentaries out there talking about it, and all this content really isn't good for us, that's why there are so many problematic people out there.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In my opinion this oversaturation of fiction is not healthy, it creates fanatic obsession with stories that are not grounded in reality and gatekeeps that of the real world which is magical. Fiction is harmful in the sense that it gatekeeps the mystical and forces us to look for it in stories rather than seeking it in reality.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically the VAST majority of art should be banned. Art is not subjective like the modernists want you to believe.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its pretty great, honestly.

    think about the history of these mediums. the primary form of narrative consumption was seen in the theatre, as plays, and this goes back a very long time. the other form is the newspaper, which can be considered an early modern technology and birthed such concepts as the informed citizen and the public.

    as the industrial revolution took place it was the radio that really began to move us into new territory, and changed our societies and governments dramatically. mostly as a form of gathering news and information, but also as a form of entertainment with stories and plays read over the radio.

    this radio/telecommunications infrastructure, in combination with the development of new photography machines, set the landscape for the entrance of the motion picture. these motion pictures were just a video camera pointed at a play and were showcased inside theatres just like a normal play. this was actually the origins of the 'hollywood israelite', these polish israeli theatre owners from nyc started displaying motion pictures in their theatres, and in an effort to compete against the european film producers, moved out to California to build a city for producing films.

    we know the story from that point on, the television entered the home and became a unique medium for story writers and artists to communicate their ideas to millions. the technology can educate, inform, and expand our minds, but it can also be used for malicious purposes. the difficulty comes when, instead of media being a representation of reality, it tries to move reality in a specific direction. this is called propaganda.

    the internet was the next evolution of this technological lineage, and in the not so different future will be known simply as the metaverse. every great technology can have a dark side. it can empower or enslave. its effect lies in the will of the consumer.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      excellent response

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The problem is the spiritual, metaphysical side of people intentionally consuming fiction, i.e. that which is known to be not real, instead of stories that may or not be true and are presented as fact.
      Meaningful stories are perceived to exist only outside our universe now, in constructed fictional universes, instead of being perceived to exist within our own universe.

      Fables were not all oral. Epic of Gilgamesh was recorded in stone, you fricking mega loser b***h homosexual moron mother fricker. Try it homosexual

      It was "ideal and legendary history" as described in the OP. Not fiction, which the reader knows is not real with certainty.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > Meaningful stories are perceived to exist only outside our universe now, in constructed fictional universes, instead of being perceived to exist within our own universe.
        this is not true, though.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Hermes

    Fables were not all oral. Epic of Gilgamesh was recorded in stone, you fricking mega loser b***h homosexual moron mother fricker. Try it homosexual

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gilgamesh came from a oral tradition, you could argue the Ur King List had chapters written by Gilgamesh and his heirs, as it was custom that only Kings could write about their predecessors. However, the original list is of course lost, only assyrian and babylonian compilations survive.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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