Is cryonics a good backup plan if souls aren't real?

I don't really believe in cryonics but if it can work, would you rather take your chance? Any chance is better than no chance if you're just rotting in the ground.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Amongysus

    Better than nothing

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's a meme.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Souls are real so don't worry about it

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they're likely to be sold for scientific projects at some point in the future. no one will be brought back. but like the other anon said. if you can't find peace in accepting your death, and you aren't particularly religious. then anything is better than nothing, even false hope.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm turning 31 in a week and I'm valuing my time more than ever before, because there could be a day where I die young and I would have never lived the best life I ever could. I miss that feeling of invincibility when you're a kid, but when I hit 25 I realized how human I was. Wether souls exist or not, my life is still ending at some point; it pisses me off that I gain experience and memories and eventually they're going to be irrelevant like they never existed.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i'm in the same boat. but you gotta be smarter about this. rn there's a 40 yo reminiscing his 30s. and a 50 yo miss how better things were at 40.

        the truth is, if you stay physically active and make more memories. age won't matter. it's proven that the more memories you squeeze into a year, the slower time will feel. just don't get caught in the trap of fearing the future and regretting the past, because then you will miss the present.

        living is the slowest thing you'll ever do. being 30 is young if you want it to be, and old if you want it to be.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I started going to the gym for longevity purposes and I never liked going to the gym. I know building muscle is important, but I'd rather add an extra decade to my life than have massive muscles and risk injuries for maintaining that frame. As far as spirituality goes, I think I will always remain agnostic on the matter. I have my own personal beliefs for reincarnation and past life regressions, but there is no way to definitively prove it, even if the evidence is amazing. Theism I have given up on. Like if I die and Christianity or Islam is true, I can't apologize for being wrong, God according to those religious text will fry my ass forever.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you're doing great man. having control over your life is the proper way to do it. now keep away from smoking and alcohol and wash your hands 5 times a day, no i'm not trying to convert you.

            sometimes i think the 5 pillars of islam, were actually meant to prolong your life but were disguised as acts of spirituality.

            > praying 5 times a day
            each prayer has 3 reps on average, you do 17 reps a day divided into 5 prayers. each "rak'a" requires the use of every muscle in your body, you're doing 1 squat, 3 back stretches, 2 push ups .. etc with each rep.
            additionally, you HAVE to wash (hands, mouth, nose, face, forearms, hair, ears, and feet) before each prayer. which you can't say does not affect your overall longevity.

            > fasting
            not eating or drinking for an average of 18 hours for 30 days during ramadan. that's intermittent fasting, and it's proven to be good for your health. you can also get off sugar and fight cravings that way.

            > no alcohol
            best thing for your liver.

            > zakat
            i think this was just a way to improve the economy by forcing people to give away about 5% of their profits to the poor (whom are guaranteed to inject it straight into the economy as soon as received by buying food and clothes).

            > hajj
            again, it's an economical trick by making every muslim alive visit mecca at least once in their lifetime. you stay there for 15 days or so, and during that time you're either buying things, or paying for your stay.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I started going to the gym for longevity purposes and I never liked going to the gym. I know building muscle is important, but I'd rather add an extra decade to my life than have massive muscles and risk injuries for maintaining that frame. As far as spirituality goes, I think I will always remain agnostic on the matter. I have my own personal beliefs for reincarnation and past life regressions, but there is no way to definitively prove it, even if the evidence is amazing. Theism I have given up on. Like if I die and Christianity or Islam is true, I can't apologize for being wrong, God according to those religious text will fry my ass forever.

            sorry i know this is unrelated to this conversation. it was just a thing on my mind, and it virtually typed itself.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Like I said I could be wrong, Islam might be true, I'm just not confident in choosing Islam over any other religion.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You spend 1/3 of your life asleep.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Which is extremely importat for the other 2/3.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I have had the opposite happen. When I was 6 I felt every day fragile and small, like the whole earth would end at any moment. Now in my 30s I see the truth and feel just how much longevity I possess despite my flesh. Each passing year I feel less concerned with the passage of time and feel less need to hurry to get things done. I have all the time of eternity every day.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They can't make you to be alive from this. There was experiment like this done on a dog, then bring him back but he died soon after. I don't think is possible to unfreeze whole body in one go, imagine having some crystals in your blood cutting veins? Plus we are not build to live like this, our body should decompose after we die.

        Wrong, you never will forget, energy you give to earth when you die, come back to you when you are born. This is why people have karma and repeat events from past lifes. They don't fully remember but energy of past lifes is there. This is why some have better intuition, they know things they have done before. But only present moment now is the key to change your life for the better.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You really need to let go, go read some Cioran and get into buddhism.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Huh. Funny. I am the opposite of you. When I reached 25, I realized just how inhuman I could truly be. You want a new lease of life? You want a true extension of time? What would you do with eternity?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >muh science anime music
          cringe

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Bot.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's a fair assessment. But if future humans actually did figure out how to revive preserved bodies, I think ethics would come in the way of carving them up for science, as at that point you're essentially committing murder.

      https://i.imgur.com/Re6BCdY.jpg

      I don't really believe in cryonics but if it can work, would you rather take your chance? Any chance is better than no chance if you're just rotting in the ground.

      I'm a pretty firm believer in the afterlife/reincarnation, but seeing what human civilization will look like hundreds of years from now would still be incredibly cool.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Those companies will go bankrupt before they ever approach any viable solutions and all of the bodies will end up just getting disposed of.

    Selling a theoretical product, based on nonexistent science, as a subscription, with no roadmap is an ingenious way to separate rich dead old people from their money though. Bravo.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ice crystals during freezing will irreparably destroy your body - it's a hoax!

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If souls aren't real then what are you trying to preserve with cryonics? Just a meat puppet?

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Souls are real. The soul is more real than your flesh.

  9. 1 month ago
    Seanonymous

    Yeah frick it why not. I like buying hope.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    just die like a man and quit being a scared little b***h goddamn have some self respect

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why die like a man, when you can die like a cell?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You are not a man not even a plankton

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Death is terrifying, quit lying to yourself.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Did I say I am unafraid of death? I surely fear it. Yet I am not so afraid I will allow my thinking to run away from me and take refuge in expensive science fiction. Every other man who came before me died, I don't mind going wherever they have gone, or better yet have no choice.

        Waste of money!

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What if souls are real but they don't work the way most people think they do?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What do you mean?

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you can afford it...why not? If it works its just sleep and you continue living until you inevitably die anyway. If it doesnt work, youre still dead.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Spoken like someone whose only value in life is ultimately his own survival and comfort. See my other remarks:

      I was formerly signed up for cryonic suspension but I discontinued my contract. The reason I stopped was that I came to the conclusion that it will never work. The reason it will never work is not because of its technical feasibility or lack thereof - I agree with Ettinger that it is a reasonable conjecture, technically - but rather because of the sorts of people attracted to it. Nearly all the people involved in it are alienated from society* in various ways, and you can't build and maintain a multi-century project with such human material.

      *autistic spectrum, psychopathic spectrum, gays, israelites, just plain weirdos and misanthropes, or wives of someone who is involved.

      Addendum: Not just alienated people but overwhelmingly selfish people, each one solely concerned with his own personal survival and comfort.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I was formerly signed up for cryonic suspension but I discontinued my contract. The reason I stopped was that I came to the conclusion that it will never work. The reason it will never work is not because of its technical feasibility or lack thereof - I agree with Ettinger that it is a reasonable conjecture, technically - but rather because of the sorts of people attracted to it. Nearly all the people involved in it are alienated from society* in various ways, and you can't build and maintain a multi-century project with such human material.

    *autistic spectrum, psychopathic spectrum, gays, israelites, just plain weirdos and misanthropes, or wives of someone who is involved.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Addendum: Not just alienated people but overwhelmingly selfish people, each one solely concerned with his own personal survival and comfort.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Unless you die falling into a vat liquid nitrogen your brain will be too degraded to save. When neurons die they lose their synaptic pathways as they shrivel up.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is a SCAM for rich idiots who are afraid to die.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If it worked like in my animes then I might do it, it's a huge gamble though, what if everything is worse when the seal breaks?

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