If we're all just figments in God's mind, much like characters in our dreams are figments of our minds, does that mean all consciousness is ...

If we're all just figments in God's mind, much like characters in our dreams are figments of our minds, does that mean all consciousness is God?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the colorful analogies arent cutting it, here is some hard science, for the skeptics

    ?si=ZRe5cI49WtFWnydE

    • 1 month ago
      Schizo Retard

      >click video
      >1:05:00

      why can't these morons just get to the point?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >much like characters in our dreams are figments of our minds

    now this is the fallacy, even though we are God and we made from God, God is not how we "intuitively" would think, or more like, our intuition is wrong, and in this case your analogy is somewhat of a wrong intuition

    it would be even more accurate to say, the characters in your dreams are figments of Gods mind as well, the people in our dreams are not like we are to God, its more like, God is the people in our dreams

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The difference is your dreams are subjective to you. There is no such thing as god. What you think is god is the collective of us all.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the collective of us all in a god in development, we came from God which is already developed and retreated from creation (only manifested through us), so that we, this universe, can develop back into a being such a God

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All is God

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Suddhadvaita

      God = Fragmented
      Fragmented = God
      God = God

      God is One, God is Fragmented.

      Visishtadvaita

      Yes, I believe. We are all parts of the same source, whatever we call it. Funny thing is... if we are characters in the ultimate force's dreams, imagine what happens if/when it wakes up.

      Advaita

      rocks and storms and shit have the Divine Will just as they say Jesus had one human will and one divine. that's why weather is so powerful, because it is the Divine Will. thus we think gods control the weather. but if you're not the Son of God you only have a human will and no divine will, so your consciousness is not completely a part of God.

      The rock is God but God is not the rock, like a square to a rectangle!

      And there's the Dvaita.
      We all could make it, that's nice.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    we, little g god, this universe, we are in the process of maturing

    big G God, created us from itself, and is only present in this universe as consciousness, thats why, from inside creation, it appears there is no God, and also why we conclude that we are God, because we are, and we connect back for small g god to big G God through consciousness, from here in this form, we can only see God through ourselves and each other, self love and love for others

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I can aspire towards non-duality, but this small g big G nonsense sounds like israeli trickery
      > Jesus of Nazareth never existed as an historical figure

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        God = Fragmented
        Fragmented = God
        God = God

        God is One, God is Fragmented.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What a massive excuse, that ain't god then

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          so thats why God likes schizos, as above so below

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I am not a shadow, not a dream. I am really living life.
    >GMDYXW

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, and its awesome!, thank you for being you!!

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There is no unified will that would qualify as a god. That would be like if everyone on earth agreed 100% of the time.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      meant for

      the collective of us all in a god in development, we came from God which is already developed and retreated from creation (only manifested through us), so that we, this universe, can develop back into a being such a God

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      watch this

      the colorful analogies arent cutting it, here is some hard science, for the skeptics

      ?si=ZRe5cI49WtFWnydE

      https://youtu.be/OWCQeOf-Re8?si=ZRe5cI49WtFWnydE [Embed]

      Gods will is beyond our experience of will, thats why its difficult to imagine, and its easy to say "evidently there is no unified will in the universe"

      look dude, I am not trying to sign you into a cult or take your money for a church, the dude from the video I am talking about, is 100% secular and his God theory is mathematical

      I gain nothing, I am just sharing that, this shit is awesome when you see it, when you live it,,, give it a chance!!

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    exactly.
    you just captured thousands upon thousands of ancient sacred texts with a single sentence.

    now, you ought to experientially realize this, not intellectually.
    intellectual understanding does not transform.
    there is a mystical aspect to this, you gotto turn inward and try to enter the kingdom of heaven / jhana / samadhi / hal or whatever label suits you the best for it.

    good luck.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, I believe. We are all parts of the same source, whatever we call it. Funny thing is... if we are characters in the ultimate force's dreams, imagine what happens if/when it wakes up.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yea consciousness is quantum because it collapses wave functions duh

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe they should do the experiment with a less intelligent animal or a more intelligent one and see what happens

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    touché

  12. 1 month ago
    Krishna

    rocks and storms and shit have the Divine Will just as they say Jesus had one human will and one divine. that's why weather is so powerful, because it is the Divine Will. thus we think gods control the weather. but if you're not the Son of God you only have a human will and no divine will, so your consciousness is not completely a part of God.

    The rock is God but God is not the rock, like a square to a rectangle!

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, you are God. Your phone is God, the text I write and you read are God. The air is too, and that bush, and that tree, and that dude you cut off in traffic, and that mailbox, and that.....

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes but saying “all consciousness” is redundant because there is only one consciousness. The reason God is so hard to define is because it’s the only thing there is and all definitions are dualistic. You can only define something by comparing it to something else, but when what you’re trying to define encompasses everything how do you put that into words? The best you can say is God is consciousness or existence or reality itself, but those words imply their opposite, and because God encompasses everything it includes those opposites within it. So it makes no difference whether you say God is everything or nothing or real or imaginary because whatever it is, there is nothing but it. No matter what you call it, it’s always THIS which is ineffable.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's funny is so many want to insist on the oneness of indescribably, but then IMMEDIATELY reject any sort on distinction as not part of the indescribable.
    EVERYONE can understand oneness, even as they say it is such a hard thing to get.
    Not a single one will then understand and accept the distinctions that go along with it.

    Duality MUST be true, or else nonduality is false.
    One is not higher or a better understanding than the other.
    Monists cannot accept this. They are too limited in their thinking, and their ideas of unlimited force a conception of God that leaves you with - literally - nothing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >What's funny is so many want to insist on the oneness of indescribably, but then IMMEDIATELY reject any sort on distinction as not part of the indescribable.
      >EVERYONE can understand oneness, even as they say it is such a hard thing to get.
      >Not a single one will then understand and accept the distinctions that go along with it.

      you are conflating the understanding of the concept with perceiving in such a state or perceiving of such a state, because that is not possible with the intellect.

      think about it. when duality perception ceases, distinctions fall apart.
      the reason we can discern one thing from another is due to contrast. we take one thing and contrast it to another thing.
      the example of the fish comes to mind - a fish which has never encountered air aka lack of water, is not able to discern water.
      for the fish to discern water, it has to experience lack of water in any shape way or form.. or even disturbances within water, to be able to discern water.

      this world is based in dualities. everything comes with its polar opposite. male/female, good/bad, hot/cold, near/far, friend/foe, self/other.
      this is so that we can know.

      however, when you transcend duality and enter the non-dual, discernment falls away.
      you can no longer discern the borders between self/other, you perceive (sort of, with a higher faculty) all as one.
      this is God-realization or union with God or as its written in the bible - "on that day, you will know that I am in my Father, my Father in me, I in you, you in me" etc.

      but this discernment is NOT intellectual or mental.
      there is a higher faculty (buddhi), from which comes intuitive grasping, in forms of eureka moments.
      there is a knowing which bypasses the intellect.
      in buddhism, its called "direct insight" or "direct seeing".

      only with that you can realize God.

      oneness IS indescribable, because oneness IS God and God is indescribable, whichever religion you take as the basis.
      in the bible, it states "God is ineffable".

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >when duality perception ceases, distinctions fall apart.
        This is itself limited, dual thinking. When distinctions remain in oneness, you have moved beyond duality and nonduality into the true Absolute.
        You are making the same mistake of maintaining duality by insisting difference between it and nonduality.
        Meditate more fully on this, and pull the blinding veil away from your eyes.
        Duality MUST be true, or else nonduality is false.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >When distinctions remain in oneness

          this does not happen.
          there are no distinctions in oneness.

          there is no "you" and then "me" in heaven.

          if you got an ocean with innumerable waves on top of it, if you penetrate through the illusion of the existence of billions of "waves", you realize that there is only the ocean or a great body of water. simply water, no multiplicity.
          there are absolutely no distinctions within water.
          no male/female, etc.

          > you have moved beyond duality and nonduality

          no, you have coaxed it into a duality view.. non-duality is NOT dual.
          you made "duality and non-duality" a duality itself.
          you are making a subtle logical mistake here.
          the movement from duality into non-duality is already non-dual.
          in fact, its paradoxical and not possible (by conventional means, as that would still constitute an action within duality; thus is a miraculous event, defying or transcending logic; its a reversal instead of a translation from A to B)

          > Duality MUST be true, or else nonduality is false.

          thus your conclusion is faulty.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >> Duality MUST be true, or else nonduality is false.

            let me correct your mistake:
            duality is not priori. duality comes after non-duality.
            if you look into kabalah or taoist cosomology (wuwei -> taiji -> yinyang), you will notice that initially, there is "nothing" (the void, emptiness, or chaos [deep waters], as its put in the bible).
            out of this comes a dot, something out of nothing, through the ordering principle or power of God.

            out of non-duality emerges duality.

            however, all of this is part of the illusion, part of the dream of God.
            its not real. its maya.

            duality emerges as a function of Gods mind moving, coming out of meditation, so to speak.
            initially, there is non-movement also called "repose" in the gospel of Thomas.
            then, spontaneously (wuwei) and this spontaneity is supernatural, "movement" occurs.

            if you sit down to meditate, you will observe this phenomenon, its not far fetched:
            thoughts appear out of nowhere.
            now you can use sophistry to explain it away, talk about the subconscious or seeds etc. but that is just that, sophistry.
            fact it, things come out of nowhere and go back to nowhere, in regards to thoughts and ideas.
            and, as above, so below, as within, so outside, as in the kingdom of heaven, so on earth!!!

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    characters in dreams are separate entities, far from being figments of your mind.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Prove either exist?

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ?t=8

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No. And it's best not to think it in these terms to begin with. God is immaterial and thus not subject to temporarily, He's thus of a purely spiritual nature. Our essence as Atman are also purely spiritual but as qualities of Brahman as we are derived units of consciousness but are categorically different due to not being the source of reality ourselves. In other words, we are of Brahman/God, but not Brahman/God ourselves. This spiritual nature is always aware, God doesn't sleep and nor does our essence. But we, in our illusory association with materiality due to thinking we are the Enjoyer, we are in a sort of dream like state (maya) wherein we perceive material nature as eternal when it is not. In other words, we seek unceasing bliss without grief in temporal objects, and thus we are akin to being asleep.

    TL;DR God is Consciousness (the very Source), but consciousness is not God.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    God's dream is divine, so we are real. Of course you can do whatever you want in a dream. You can be the god of your own dreams. Likewise God can do whatever he wants in his divine lucid dream.

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