If eating the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was what got Adam and Eve kicked out of Eden, wouldn't it stand to reason that we s...

If eating the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was what got Adam and Eve kicked out of Eden, wouldn't it stand to reason that we should forget that knowledge?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If people spent more time actually reading the Bible they would see that it answers all their questions. Anyone who still has questions that can be simply answered by pointing to the exact passage they are questioning has never read the Bible and are asking out of bad faith. They should be ignored.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      found the snake

      >XD VGP

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They should be ignored.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          thanks for the reply, I guess that means I'm onto something

          >we should forget that knowledge
          sheep tier opinion
          nothing wrong with it, but you don't have to tell anyone to do this they'll naturally avert their gaze from the truth anyway
          do I think you "should" look away? maybe, the truth is hard to swallow. being ignorant is to be a slave, but you're free to slave away!

          checked. Nice ironic use of sheep considering the whole sheep and shepherd thing. You're confused, I'm not saying we should remain ignorant. I'm saying that we should always maintain a healthy balance of knowing and not knowing, and drawing hard lines is what pulls us away from paradise.

          https://i.imgur.com/BZuTjTF.jpg

          >>just die in the cradle bro, problem solved
          Is it?

          stfu syn

          You think the half bitten apple on the back of your phone is just a brand logo?

          I think 'apple' has been one of the most commonly used words in English, in use since far before the invention of the personal computer.

          >Don't eat the fruit from this tree that I conveniently placed... RIGHT HERE!!!
          >yes yes I could have avoided this whole thing by just not making the tree, but what am I, omnipotent?!

          >god is anthropomorphic

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This verse only raises more questions. Does Childs dick tip blood on your feet keep YHWH from killing you?
      > At a lodging place on the way, the Lord met Moses and was about to kill him. But Zipporah took a flint knife, cut off her son’s foreskin and touched Moses’ feet with it. “Surely you are a bridegroom of blood to me,” she said. 26 So the Lord let him alone. (At that time she said “bridegroom of blood,” referring to circumcision.).

      Exodus 4:24

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    People don't realize the real reason was to guard the Tree of Life.
    Tree of Life + Tree of Knowledge = godhood

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >we should forget that knowledge
    sheep tier opinion
    nothing wrong with it, but you don't have to tell anyone to do this they'll naturally avert their gaze from the truth anyway
    do I think you "should" look away? maybe, the truth is hard to swallow. being ignorant is to be a slave, but you're free to slave away!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Check ‘em

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s the opinion of a human who is still faffing around the trailhead of the path.

  4. 2 months ago
    synopticon

    >>just die in the cradle bro, problem solved
    Is it?

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You think the half bitten apple on the back of your phone is just a brand logo?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah it is it’s called apple that’s the brand

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Then why is Microsoft Windows?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          What do you mean

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You think the half bitten apple on the back of your phone is just a brand logo?

          >this tech company's logo is a rock
          >A ROCK WAS IN THE BIBLE! THIS IS SATAN!!!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Hold on a minute brother, he was talking to me. Just waiting for him to respond before I manhandle him.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Steve Jobs literally named his daughter “Eve”, so the connection is there. The apple name may have originally come from Newton, but the archetype of the apple is highly significant in western culture, especially when it comes to the idea of knowledge.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Don't eat the fruit from this tree that I conveniently placed... RIGHT HERE!!!
    >yes yes I could have avoided this whole thing by just not making the tree, but what am I, omnipotent?!

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if Knowledge of good and evil is knowledge that they don't really exist, and this knowledge leads us into sin which hurts us anyway.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bruh why you gotta do my brain like that now you making me question everything

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How can good and evil not exist but sin still exist? That's a juxtaposition, no? If sin is an act against god, and god is the ultimate moral authority, then a sin is an act of evil. If good and evil do not exist then sinning is impossible.

      >god makes apple
      >god makes snake
      >god makes adam and eve
      So no, god planned it.

      How can one have a test without temptation? The biggest temptation for ego is ultimate discernment over right and wrong, good and evil.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Okay sin was invented in the atmosphere of an orthopraxy. The Elohim gave you certain ways to act so you don’t bring unholiness or uncleanliness to them. Your sin is stinky and can make them sick.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The tree of knowledge turns you rebellious, because you start to mistrust the non-dual self.

      Thoughts like "could it be that I find joy in causing suffering?", arise. That's the whole purpose of the duality trap. It guilt-trips you, separating you from the non-dual self. the truth manifestation.

      By lifting the veil of duality, you get to know yourself, You only seek that, which benefits you. Pretty quick do you realize that you have this inner urge to help people, to care for people, not because it is your duty or because you fear punishment, but because you truly desire it.

      It was never your will to hate, to seek revenge or to be jealous. You truly do not give a frick. It's not because you care for others, but because you find joy in helping. Maybe it is the fathers will manifested through me.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don’t even know what the fruit is. Or the tree. It’s not trying learn how to discern between spirits.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t. egoist

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >god makes apple
    >god makes snake
    >god makes adam and eve
    So no, god planned it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The fruit was gnosis. The snake simply made Adam and Eve aware that God had placed them in a sin “rube goldberg machine” that was literally of his own intelligent design. Even if it was just a test it implied that God was the source of both good and evil.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Okay but can we also talk about god not being an omnipotent being. This was a later revision of the YHWHists to make the god of Israel the “one god” so the israelites wouldn’t go and worship other, nicer, equally israeli gods that weren’t YHWH. This was mainly because YHWH was the state god, and the kings were really in with what YHWH did and said, especially Josiah. Other gods like Asherah didn’t want people sacrificing humans or invading other countries. She wanted people to grow wheat and learn sustainable agriculture.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The "fruit" that they ate was not a literal fruit from a tree. It is an analogy that got intermingled with another somewhat unrelated concept that is the Tree of Life that they used to live for thousands of years.

    The "fruit" that Eve was tricked into "eating" was intercourse with a regular human. Lucifer and his associates tricked Eve to have relations with someone she was not supposed to. Both Adam and Eve, and all their offspring had strict instructions not to procreate with regular humans in order to not jeopardize their mission. Adam, who did not want to be separated from Eve upon her transgression, purposely "ate the fruit" too; and so both were demoted to mere humans of the realm and they failed in their mission.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > Lucifer
      Go read the story again.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are a couple different modes of thought to this. 1. They discovered the knowledge of good and evil which made them equal to the Elohim and were therefore obligated to become stewards of the planet. 2. They committed a mistake which kicked them farther down the spiritual trail and made them lesser as spiritual beings. They (and their children) have to continually work to regain the state of enlightenment they had been in before being kicked out.

    Earth is 1. In need of protection and guidance and/or Earth is 2. A place for souls to learn lessons

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I choose "and"

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >kicked out
    >not "stepping down; descending[into]"

    Protestant detected

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You are all dumb fricking Black folk. It simply means that you get kicked out of muh special klub for muh special kids if you don't follow orders from a bunch of Black folk who dont want you to think twice about whether what you do is good or evil.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, is that even possible? Particularly if one interprets that myth as the acquisition of a form of consciousness that is both self-aware and aware of one's mortality? There are narrative reasons why the gods' initial reaction was to keep humans from subsequently eating the fruit from the tree of life. And yes, gods plural. This 'oddity' of the plural remains even in contemporary translations & is uncomfortably explained away as 'muh trinity' despite textual evidence to the contrary. Leading academic theories speculate that these myths were established prior to the hebrews moving towards a monotheistic religion — these stories, even according to the text, precluded Abraham from whom the Israelites (and Arabs) are said to descend.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Particularly if one interprets that myth as the acquisition of a form of consciousness that is both self-aware and aware of one's mortality?
      Is this what you think separates humans from the rest of the tree of life? I don't think this is a particularly special trait. The ways in which our self-awareness manifests and our abilities to communicate such things are what could be used to distinguish us from the rest of the animal kingdom, but even then cats have distinctive personalities. To act like we have any distinction from the rest of the animal kingdom honestly just feels nasty, though. So no, not in that particular way. Nice strawman.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's merely one popular esoteric interpretation of the myth. Cannot in good faith claim it as my own, nor would want to.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Literalistic interpretation of mythic modes is a spirit killer, but it's not a surprising feature in an 'age of reason' when human minds are conditioned to operate like computers running binary code. Truth is, most people are happy to be no more than cogs in a machine, and they look to that machine for affirmation of their self-work. They are reduced no more than a function, and they are happy to embrace this diminishment.

    This too shall pass.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      *self-worth

      Though self-work seems a particularly apt typo in context

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      preachers of a literal interpretation have always been priests, creationists, believers themselves who'd call you heretic for doubting it.
      creationists take the story literally, are you calling that the age of reason? you're shifting the blame.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Those you cite are certainly a symptom of applying post-enlightenment criteria to interpretations of ancient texts that rely on different narrative modalities; but so are those who dismiss entire traditions based on the same criteria. Literalist interpretations, historically speaking, are a relatively recent phenomenon. Any study of Aquinas, or Augustine, or other 'church fathers' would reveal quite quickly that the literalism embraced by 20th century evangelicalism and its critics alike is a recent phenomenon.

        Yet these same people, literalist believers and literalist critics alike, would have no trouble reading Greek myths, also from a shared history, and recognize the poetic modalities used to describe historic events and individuals.

        But hey, it's okay to agree to disagree. After all, I know that I'm right and you do too 😉

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like this creation story no talking snakes of fruit of sin . https://youtu.be/I47G9PPa29w

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did Adam even wake up?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does Eve feel even a little guilty?

  18. 2 months ago
    Future Abram

    i like to think it's just a lesson to remind us all that humans want romance and would turn their lives into a comedy to avoid the inevitable tragedy of it all.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >more duality is the answer

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >remember the knowledge
    What do you think you are doing now? You are barely reading it as you live. How dp you like them apples?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think you're drunk.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can derive from the story that God is not omnipotent or that god is a troll

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Enoch said that we were never supposed to know about anything the Watchers told us. It was all bad for us. We we're supposed to be living a 1000 year long camping vacation here on earth.

    We didn't need anything they taught us, and can anybody say this shitty life we live is better than going camping?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      camping is fun

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