I currently believe in gnosticism as the ultimate path to self-knowledge and salvation, and that Christ is holy and divine.

I currently believe in gnosticism as the ultimate path to self-knowledge and salvation, and that Christ is holy and divine. But I also currently try out meditation and have meditated for quite some time to accomplish a mental state that is described in ancient Hindu texts. Should I pursue more gnosticism or should I maybe try to make shaivism work? Does shaivism offer truths that gnosticism isn't fully comprehending, or is gnosticism actually the true path and I'm just benefitting from meditation as a side thing, and it doesn't really grant salvation contrary to what I'm currently contemplating?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Case closed by myself, I am choosing gnosticism. After some contemplation I can assert that shaivism offers no ultimate truth.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They are both fine options but gnosticism would likely be less hassle for a westener as you are already familiar with it's symbolism. Going for a foreign system would require you to learn new language figuratively and literally and you'd need to learn to think in Indian. Not worth the trouble in my opinion unless you are REALLY drawn into it. All spiritual paths leads to same destinatination after all when followed with hearth. As a rule of thumb it's advicable to stick with the one closest to home though there are exceptions. Also note that deepest truths can't be found in any book, religion or system but only be experienced directly which is what they are for.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Look man I don't need that bullshit all paths lead to the same destination. Either shaivism is true, which it isn't, or gnosticism is true, which is highly possible, or I need to figure out another true path.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What's more important than the path you choose or somehow end up to is your own sincerety, effort and motivation behind it. If those factors are on the right then any path will lead you where you should be and if not then none will. Spirituality is not a quiz game.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Okay.. whatever I will find my own path and that will be the supreme and none other. The foundations are already there in my mind.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dvaita
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvaita_Vedanta

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's all not that complicated.
    There is the "light" and there is the "dark", and people can choose.
    That's basically it.
    There are many different names, like Christ, Allah, Vishnu, Buddha for the light, and Satan, Lucifer, Baphometh for the dark, but that's just different labels. Also there are different concepts, theology, gnosis, sutra, tantra, dao, advaita etc, but that also doesn't really matter. The only real choice ist between light and dark, "heaven" and "hell", and fundamentally every soul knows what it is. You know it with the heart, not with the mind. Intuition is the key to spirituality.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The only real difference in gnosticism and Vedanta is whether you think there is some enemy you are fighting against, or just your own ignorance you are trying to clear up.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Gnosticism is compatible with Advaita Vedanta, Neoplatonism, Hermeticism, etc. True mysticism is all-encompassing.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I currently believe in gnosticism

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Embarrassing.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i fail to see a rebuttal, how long have you managed to go though life doing that?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You didn't post an argument anon. You posted a link to a video of some guy ranting about politics. Gnosticism is apolitical.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bow down to the Most High daily and fear him. Read the laws of Moses and the wisdom of the prophets to understand what pleases God and what displeases him. The knowledge will come by itself.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >FEAR ME!!
      Yes this must be what benevolent beings say.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Your point stands, but "God fearing" is not meant to be the same as how we understand the word - a synonym for scared.
        "Fear" in this sense is more along the lines of "minding" someone. As in "you better mind your manners" or "never mind what he says".
        A God-fearing person is one who constantly keeps God's instructions and their mind, and lives by them.
        But as I said - your point stands because even with this understanding of "fear", it is there due to negative consequence. Someone rock climbing "fearing" gravity and rope breaks isnt because gravity or ropes are evil or malevolent, but it IS because if you dont remain fearful you can get hurt.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Your point stands, but "God fearing" is not meant to be the same as how we understand the word - a synonym for scared.
        "Fear" in this sense is more along the lines of "minding" someone. As in "you better mind your manners" or "never mind what he says".
        A God-fearing person is one who constantly keeps God's instructions and their mind, and lives by them.
        But as I said - your point stands because even with this understanding of "fear", it is there due to negative consequence. Someone rock climbing "fearing" gravity and rope breaks isnt because gravity or ropes are evil or malevolent, but it IS because if you dont remain fearful you can get hurt.

        Should a roach not fear a man when he turns the light on?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If the man has no inclination to harm the roach, then it should not be afraid, but it should always keep in mind the ability to the man to destroy it.
          Thus, man-fearing.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cool. I'm a pagan.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I currently believe in x-thing as the ultimate path to self-knowledge and salvation
    >but tune in next week when i change my mind yet again for the next current thing, just like the woman that i am

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why not both? The gnosticism, or "we, the true gnostics" as some of them say, that Samael Aun Weor is kind of like perennialism and gnosticism mashed together. On YouTube there's over like 400 talks on different subjects covering his views and there are a ton of books translated into English he wrote on all different kinds of subjects

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Always go all in on Jesus. Once you have Him on your side, study whatever you want. All religions have wisdom to impart.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >go all in
      Yep, gotta take all 5 inches.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, everything leads to God, even atheists are shilling big bang, satanists are basically the proof of forces against God existing, all big religions except buddhism are based on God, buddhism is basically the satanistic concept of being god, linking back to the same principle
      tldr everything points to God, and It's not coincidence, who has eyes to see let him see.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >satanists are basically the proof of forces against God existing
        How? Why are you so intimidated by a dumb larp group?

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    gnosticism is a judeo masonic marxist tool for child trafficking and justification for diety roleplay among sicko Hollywood creeps.
    enjoy feeling like you're in on something you probably want no part in.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      explain how. why would elites be apart of a religion that is completely against materialism and hedonism?

  14. 1 month ago
    Hermes

    pray everyday

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Your fault lies not in seeking truth, but assuming one truth is superior to the other.

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