I believe Pascal's Wager is rational and correct but every time I read the Bible I just can't take it seriously.

I believe Pascal's Wager is rational and correct but every time I read the Bible I just can't take it seriously. It's like trying to force yourself to believe in the Easter bunny and Santa Claus. I can force myself to fake belief in it all I want but I can't actually believe it's real in any capacity

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Read Neville Goddard then

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That shit faker than The Bible lol

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Works for me, which is all that matters
        >Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        So much for believing pascals wager

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Bible is the main source neville goddard uses. Seems like you would rather believe in a magic boat carrying literally every animal on earth existing instead of using the bare minimum amount of intuition to realize there's a hidden meaning to the Bible. Breaking news: npc gets filtered and his cranial nerves rupture trying to not take the Bible literally.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Humble yourself before God, mortal

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel same about your normality and official narrative.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yrs, the Bible sounds moronic However, oys all true because Hod wants to test your faith. You must believe it all or else you will be poked in the ass by demons for a million years.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't there a chart that determines what religion has the statistically worst outcome for nonbelievers and thus, according to Pascal's Wager, is the one you should believe in? It's not Christianity, it might be Islam iirc

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Statistically worst outcome isn't what you should measure but the likelihood that the religion is true. Scientology might have the worst outcomes but it's obviously not real

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    God knows who truly believes. You can't con God. If mentally weak people have to revert to Pascal's wager, then they will answer for that. It's the pussy way to cover your ass. Either believe or don't.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't it better to follow the rules even if you don't think they're true?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, because you can't lose. Once you are saved, you can drift so far away from Him that you can still go to hell. The key is repentance.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Pascal's Wager
    It's absurd because the assumption is that only Christianity exists. The other assumptions it that God chose 1 religion, which is absurd.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's the only religion with an afterlife that you could make an argument for

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't tell that to literally any other religion

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          If one religion is true than every other religion is false is it not?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes and every fricking religion thinks its the one true religion what's your point?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            If one is true than all the others are false which means you have to try to deduce which are obviously false

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            TRUER
            THE WORD YOU MEAN IS TRUER YOU ILLITERATE FRICK. MAYBE LEARN ENGLISH BEFORE TRYING TO DEBATE IN IT

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Reddit is that way

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            moronic and proud eh?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What I said was grammatically correct

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, but you can pointlessly die on that illiterate hill my man

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            True is correct

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            esl tard

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I asked GPT and it said i was correct... how am i wrong?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, every religion is true, but most of them lie about being the "one true religion". The truth is that the only hell in the afterlife is one of your own making, but the various heavens are real. Religions are just spirit worship.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You do realize that all religions stem from the tower of babel. Think about it. All mythology, gods, beliefs all stem from a common point in time. Notice how mythology all has a flood story; despite geographical distance? How do the Aztecs have the same myths as some african tribe? Because at one time, the ancients when from forth from some central location. It's blatant

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is Pascal's wager as rational as would appear at first sight? Who knows what appears how to whom at first sight, but let me past you this fun, hypothetical dialogue with Pascal which I just happen to have which conclusively proves or near enough that Monsieur Pascal didn't reason quite as airtightly as he perhaps believed himself to be.
    As a matter of fact, Pascal's wager actually proves that damnation is guaranteed for all believers.

    https://pst.innomi.net/paste/zwkb3f7hebmkux5b3qxypejn

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      But in case one wants a summary: the option "believe in God" doesn't actually exists, thanks in no small party to the Great Schism of 1054, "extra ecclesia nulla salus" and the various doctrines to which one must adhere. While this goes strangely unnoticed, most Christians regard most other Christians as heretics, and one can hardly be Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Lutheran, Calvinist, Arminian, adhere to sola scriptura, to scriptura + tradition, believe in salvation by faith alone or by faith + works or by faith + works + sacraments, etc. One can also hardly affirm all Christologies at the same time.
      Since, according to Pascal's very own logic of belief specifically being necessary: the right belief also is necessary. Even a believer in God will generally have no way of determining what the right belief is, therefore, according to Pascal's logic, there simply is no way to pick the correct belief, therefore the best outcome one can guarantee for oneself is hell.
      But even so, assuming that we at least get some slightly less bad damnation for an error of omission than for an error of commission, we should remain agnostic so as to at least not endorse any actively "heretical" beliefs. Simple as that.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Pascal's Wager is rational and correct
    Then so is "Pascal's Spaghetti Dinner", an argument I just made up and attributed to Pascal which is the same as Pascal's Wager except with the Flying Spaghetti Monster instead of god.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dawkins go to bed you have lecture in the morning

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pascal's Wager assumes that non-disprovability implies a small but finite probability. This is wrong. In the absence of evidence, probability is zero. So the equation isn't epsilon × infinity = infinity, it's zero × infinity = zero.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can't prove that my name is Jacob that means the probability is zero?

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everything is a story. Everything is just putting on different archetypes in different assemblages.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You are in the 0.01% of humanity that understands this. Cheers

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        oops all divine revelations

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When I think about Pascals wager, it seems like it would sound absurd to an athesit the same way roko's basilisk seems absurd to me. Since I don't believe in a future evil AI who would be mad at me for not helping to build it then its absurd and just a jerk off pseud thought experiment. But because I believe in god, Pascals wager seems reasonable. To an atheist I know it doesnt.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Former wagerer here.
    You will only fall for it as long as you can't see past the forced dichotomy of Abrahamism and Atheism.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing else is relevant

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        So I thought.
        Then I discovered the traditions of our ancestors, which Christianity attempted to obliterate.
        The israelites themselves believed in the gods until recently, much more recently than the Old Testament pretends.
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahwism

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pascal's wager and other mathematical arguments for God are best interpreted in the context of a mathematical understanding of God, which is generally not the interpretation taken by major religions

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Bible is just a book and Christianity is just a religion formed by humans: God is God

    There.. I saved ur brain from propagating books

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Truly I cannot belief this crap survived to the modern day. It's a false dichotomy and you need a room temperature IQ not to see that. Frick theologians, they're not thinkers. HELLO THERE IS MORE THAN ONE RELIGION, IT'S NOT A YES/NO PROPOSITION

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >le true god (belong to no religion in particular) achtually sends you to hell for believing Pascal's Wager because he feels like it/he hates the abrahamic religion/he doesn't like Pascal's Wager/he doesn't like you abusing loopholes/you're a piece of shit for using religion for personal gain
    It's disproved just like that

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like how Pascal's wager doesn't consider how much of a c**t a god is that would send his own creations to burn in hell for eternity, thus making the entire religion garbage not worth anyone's time

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