How to even begin...?

to understand the true nature of reality?

there are so many different things that factor into the question here (biology, chemical compounds, psychology, religion, physics, math, technology, etc).

Even if you make headway in one area another perspective could be just as reasonable. So why waste time pursuing that area? What if you investigated religion for years and then found out the true nature of reality was that it was just an advanced simulation?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well, first you must question your very own self. Start with the basics, you can't begin questioning the fake, gay and imposed reality without first going after the very mundane and ordinary things.
    What I'm eating, what I'm drinking, why I'm fricking. The base and animal things. Start looking into that, I suggest exercise and healthy eating but make no mistake, what you've been told is fake. Everything in this reality is fake, but if you must question it, you begin with the fundamentals upon which you as the human animal is built.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      All this would only be worth it if you could actually avoid death by altering the diet. Since death can't even be avoided by doing all this, only prolonged, to rigorously alter one's diet to avoid carcinogens is to run away from the inevitable. Better instead to square up to death face to face and go boldly into it when it comes to meet oneself.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >All this would only be worth it if you could actually avoid death
        Not the anon you quoted, but not realizing and accepting that everything in existence is transient and fleeting is the source of all suffering. Worth determined by the permanence of something (life in this case, the idea of immortality) is the illusion, and again, the chain and cause of suffering.

        Reorganizing all the bits of one's paradigm to fit that insight is a life-long journey for some, enlightenment.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can suffer the experience that is death but you can't die.
        Immortality is the true nature of the real self and afterlife is just the continuation of the everlasting life in the next cycle.
        As for how not to experience death/cycles, Buddhism such as

        >All this would only be worth it if you could actually avoid death
        Not the anon you quoted, but not realizing and accepting that everything in existence is transient and fleeting is the source of all suffering. Worth determined by the permanence of something (life in this case, the idea of immortality) is the illusion, and again, the chain and cause of suffering.

        Reorganizing all the bits of one's paradigm to fit that insight is a life-long journey for some, enlightenment.

        offers an answer.
        Others don't mind it as a good death is its own reward.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >You can suffer the experience that is death but you can't die.
          Basically, although we could go into lengthy tangents about semantics when using certain terms like "you", "life"...etc, which tend to distort the message for people who seek knowledge without cultivating wisdom, people who go to boards to ask all sorts of existential doubts.

          The way i like to present it is by pointing out how everything is dying and being reborn every single instant, change, or how new agers like to put it, vibrations. The body, thoughts and sensations are all dying every single instant, so what's left of you that isn't already in a perpetual dynamic of change/death? I find this line of thought has decent success at facilitating insight for those who are unfamiliar with this model.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Let me tell you a secret OP, most of us are quiet nihilists. We know the futility of existence but we don't admit it. We dress our impersonation of the believing fool however way we like. You will be the same.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      well that is kind of what I came to think about - when I realized the scale of the universe, space and time itself, everything else that's potentially out there, every potential religion and theory out there, how this life is just a milisecond blip in not only earth history but in universal history even less.

      its hard to sort of care about daily life - although i still make goals related to personal interests or money it just seems so irrelevant in the scheme of things

      https://i.imgur.com/2FGbiBZ.png

      Well, first you must question your very own self. Start with the basics, you can't begin questioning the fake, gay and imposed reality without first going after the very mundane and ordinary things.
      What I'm eating, what I'm drinking, why I'm fricking. The base and animal things. Start looking into that, I suggest exercise and healthy eating but make no mistake, what you've been told is fake. Everything in this reality is fake, but if you must question it, you begin with the fundamentals upon which you as the human animal is built.

      interesting for sure, I've read some schizo tier things about supplements and how certain things influence the body and optimizing things like the thyroid and then theres more common things people talk about like fluoride even, etc. definitely something ill look at more. still though, its hard to ever know what is really true i guess.

      [...]

      maybe you're right :

    • 2 months ago
      Son of Man

      Nihilism is for gay lords chads are absurdists

      well that is kind of what I came to think about - when I realized the scale of the universe, space and time itself, everything else that's potentially out there, every potential religion and theory out there, how this life is just a milisecond blip in not only earth history but in universal history even less.

      its hard to sort of care about daily life - although i still make goals related to personal interests or money it just seems so irrelevant in the scheme of things

      [...]
      interesting for sure, I've read some schizo tier things about supplements and how certain things influence the body and optimizing things like the thyroid and then theres more common things people talk about like fluoride even, etc. definitely something ill look at more. still though, its hard to ever know what is really true i guess.

      [...]
      maybe you're right :

      You limit your perception to a baseline hylics individualists which blinds one to the grand picture outside of space (m) time (c) that which makes it and never dies but only transmutes. (E) energy

      And it all works of feed back loops

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      disgusting

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Killing time...
    Not wasting...
    A slave to many...
    A master of one...

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    but don't you think there's something more, like another level to all of this? I want to find that somehow?

    or your point is that it's all just a cope? its hard for me to not care or want to hope for more i guess

    Killing time...
    Not wasting...
    A slave to many...
    A master of one...

    ill think about this for a while

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Second, you must know what you can and can NOT do. OK, you've first questioned your reality as the human animal. You're realized everything you've been taught is fake and gay. What now?

    The only 1 and complete freedom is to have sentiment.
    No matter what you do, say, feel, are forced to do or admit or deny or no matter what you'll eventually become, forced to become, to shed or do or think, the 1 thing nobody can change, as it's your 1 right, is to have sentiment.
    If you look or if you interact in any way, or if you are aware of a thing, you might have all sorts of sentiments towards it. Nobody can change that, even if you are forced to say certain things about that, or feel a certain way, or do stuff with it, or deny it, or even be forced to forget and move away from that 1 thing, what sentiment you eventually have towards that thing is yours, yours alone, unique to you, free from anybody and any interference, and is your 1 right.

    I have reasons to believe that the afterlife, once we are free of the material world, consists of those pure forms and our sentiments that we have over those forms.
    In this life, we might look at, see, hear, feel, live on, exist, coexist with, a mountain for example. Whether you love it or hate it, whether it's cold or dark or nice or whatever, you in life are forced to acknowledge its existence as a mountain.
    In the afterlife, what you are in relation to the pure form of the mountain is your true, pure, unaltered by life and circumstance, sentiment towards the true form of the mountain.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I read it and I'll think about it, but even this is tricky for me because there's also theories for example which are saying that religions like christianity are a trap when you die trying to trick you into staying in the trap or something

      so how you do actually parse whats true or accurate? its really hard for religious or theory based things, even science is often updated over time

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You are a cloud of awareness and this reality is a bubble within it.
    There is an intelligence behind everything which is you. You are playing in your own movie and everybody else is also you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ok

      https://i.imgur.com/XTLE8H0.jpg

      Nihilism is for gay lords chads are absurdists
      [...]
      You limit your perception to a baseline hylics individualists which blinds one to the grand picture outside of space (m) time (c) that which makes it and never dies but only transmutes. (E) energy

      And it all works of feed back loops

      this is really interesting - the picture mainly, as I read a book related to this called reality transurfing

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You are playing in your own movie and everybody else is also you
      Gnostics are so cringe
      You’ve been conned by demons if you think we are all ‘oneself playing itself out’
      You don’t even understand the true potential every individual has if you think we’re all the same
      You’d do yourself a huge favor if you got out of the idea that everyone is you

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        And what's your brilliantly take, oh enlightened one?

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >there are so many different things that factor into the question here (biology, chemical compounds, psychology, religion, physics, math, technology, etc).
    The devil is in the details so I suggest one ignores the details and pursue the essence of things. Once you find it you simply apply the same method for other fields.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How to even begin to understand the true nature of reality?
    Good question, OP. I'm on the same path, asking questions like, "Why am I me and not someone else? Why do I feel trapped in a cycle?" I've thought that maybe I'm just bored of life, but I look for answers nonetheless.

    >there are so many different things that factor into the question here
    I've tried to integrate all of the things I learn into a cohesive theory of sorts. I think it takes time to come to a conclusion. If you consider how we evolved to live short, desperate lives then it makes sense that nothing makes sense. We're built to solve the problem of death for as long as we can, but death exists regardless. We reproduce our bodies through sex and our minds through speech and media, yet our experience inevitably comes to an end. Immortality eludes us at every turn, so why do we continue to chase it?

    >So why waste time pursuing that area?
    That's the fun part, you don't "waste" time. Time is a dimension, not a commodity. It gives context to what we learn and helps us compare ideas to one another. At some point in time you discover certain truths are useless lies, like Santa Claus. Given more time, you discover that "lie" you were told has a rich history that you can appreciate, like how the tradition of Santa Claus started with stories of Odin. It goes from a childish truth to an adolescent lie to a fully matured truth that is deeper and more fulfilling than you could have imagined, and it's all thanks to time.

    >What if you investigated religion for years and then found out the true nature of reality was that it was just an advanced simulation?
    The previous example of Santa Claus fits this question perfectly. Santa Claus is a simulation of Odin constructed by Christianity. I remember being confused by my grandfather dressing up like Santa Claus, but now it makes perfect sense to me. The wise and generous magician archetype runs too deep to ignore.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      One additional bit of advice: look inward. Meditate of the self, that infinite and unchanging perspective. Read up on Ramana Maharshi, the guy was on to something big.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >We're built to solve the problem of death for as long as we can, but death exists regardless
      This is interesting given recent advancements in longevity and medicine, albeit still not allowing us to live forever but lifespans have advanced over time. People are now experimenting more and more with longevity-focused lifestyles and while it may be overly optimistic if technology, AI, and medicine improve exponentially there may be a point in time where lifespans are greatly extended. Like terminal velocity of lifespan where tech keeps advancing and advancing helping us live extremely long.

      Even if we could live forever though that gives some people more time but I wonder if there would also be people who intentionally do not choose to live forever in hopes of something greater past life itself. Or would they stay and hope to learn from other potential life in the universe?

      your note on Santa Claus, time, and advice on looking inward are interesting as well. It does link up well to the situation I proposed. Thanks for sharing.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >999
    RIP juice wrld

    Also I find it interesting that 999 arranged in a circle looks like a triskelion, which is commonly associated with death and the afterlife.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >there are so many different things that factor into the question here (biology, chemical compounds, psychology, religion, physics, math, technology, etc).
    Wrong.
    >found out the true nature of reality was that it was just an advanced simulation?
    Correct.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What is the benefit of simulation theory?
      I never got the point of believing everything is layers of illusion. Does it actually change anything, or does it simply give you an excuse to do whatever you want like you're playing a video game? I already pretty much live like there are no rules except for natural laws and the ones I set for myself.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >What is the benefit of simulation theory?
        The simulation theory is just the latest Materialism interpretation of the age old occult view of reality since antiquity across the planet.
        Matrix without the computer, or God dreaming he is a mortal..etc.
        As for what's the benefit, the benefit is knowing the truth of how reality really is.
        >Does it actually change anything
        It changes everything.
        Simulation would literally mean the "past" do not cause the "future". It would mean every scientific "law" are mere patterns at the mercy of higher causes rather than some immutable fundmental force themselves. People wouldn't just place their hope on finding clever ways to optimize known rules (technology) but would ultimately try to break the rules.
        And by such strife they would ultimately come know the Divine within themselves.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >What is the benefit of simulation theory?
        There are glitches in software that allow you to take control of the host machine. Assuming simulation theory is true we could potentially do something similar and have some effect on the "real" world.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >glitches
          Doesn't need glitches, there's a literal built in command console.
          Problem is your average human is so pre-programmed by society on what to type into their console they can't manifest (spawn) anything other than the status quo.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/JHpEEzS.jpg

          >What is the benefit of simulation theory?
          The simulation theory is just the latest Materialism interpretation of the age old occult view of reality since antiquity across the planet.
          Matrix without the computer, or God dreaming he is a mortal..etc.
          As for what's the benefit, the benefit is knowing the truth of how reality really is.
          >Does it actually change anything
          It changes everything.
          Simulation would literally mean the "past" do not cause the "future". It would mean every scientific "law" are mere patterns at the mercy of higher causes rather than some immutable fundmental force themselves. People wouldn't just place their hope on finding clever ways to optimize known rules (technology) but would ultimately try to break the rules.
          And by such strife they would ultimately come know the Divine within themselves.

          >It changes everything.
          I agree, especially interesting in terms of scientific laws having no fundamental basis if that were the case where the focus would be on skirting the rules and trying to break things.

          https://i.imgur.com/Plu8fUw.jpg

          >glitches
          Doesn't need glitches, there's a literal built in command console.
          Problem is your average human is so pre-programmed by society on what to type into their console they can't manifest (spawn) anything other than the status quo.

          >is so pre-programmed by society
          I've thought about this as well when considering all of these factors/possibilities going to work a random job seems inconsequential. If you want to be normal or function in society you need to do this to some extent though, and especially if you want to influence the world in a certain direction.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A simulation isn't the true nature of reality, that's just a state of reality. The true nature of reality is transient and simple, people spend months, years, decades sitting on a cushion trying to realize the nuances.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    as long as you exist you are able to sense truth, i'm saying this pragmatically
    existing itself is self confirmatory so that gives you a pointer; from there you can try to seek truth by defining it -- eg: that which reflects reality -- and you can build up from there

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're being too analytic, trying to put out fire with fire. Imagine freedom and describe the scene to me.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The urantia book

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What does that say? I can read the あ, the てい and maybe a ん between them, but I'm stumped by the last character

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      maybe: Anteiku (あんていく, Anteiku)

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What kind of Simulation? Elon Musk became the individual with the most powerful Tongue in the Anglosphere with his telling of the "we statistically live in a simulation". He prob dropped acid once and had a "whoah" moment, but later developed that into a Huge Ego. Pride with little substance (he does not care about safety of his employees).

    There is a better explanation. We (statistically) do not just live in a Simulation, but a Game Simulation. There must be some freedom somewhere, albeit it is confused for freedom of action. What we have is Freedom To Identify, or Freedom to Self-Define. From there, we have Freedom of Choice.

    Knowing this, the other axioms of Language (as percieved through the English Language) become easier to uncover. If one is still stuck, The French have unironically uncovered Axioms to the True Nature of Reality through their language. Choose to believe me or not, but I know it is fact. Deleuze, Guattari, Sartre, Baudrillard, Foucault, Camus and even going back to Rousseau and Descartes. The sum of their work is approximately equivalent to German Philosophy, as in Hegel, Nietzsche and some others I assume. We just (for now) do not have any philosophical equivalent in English. All Ayn Rand and Milton Fiendman have uncovered is the nature of reality from the perspective of an egoic atheistic mind, which is therefore not complete.

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