How get phenomenal cosmic power?

How get phenomenal cosmic power /x/?

All of western magic and occultism is either based on John Dee's work, a man who let himself get swindled and cucked by Edward Kelly, or New Age Chaos Magick...

You can't find anything REAL in the English speaking world... Has ANYONE got ANYTHING real ANYWHERE?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    In the hidden places magic flows.
    That is where the master goes.
    Watch upon the sacred lake.
    Midnight secrets do awake.
    In the waters ebb and flow.
    There is something you must know.
    Hidden texts are hard to find.
    Sometimes you must ask the blind.
    If in blood you seek what's said.
    Darkness shall awake the dead.

    Black Libraries...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Any clarification on this?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        nta. The information you are looking for can be found everywhere, you just need to expand your understanding before you´ll notice it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Vagueposters don't know anything, if they did they would just tell us.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you had phenomenal cosmic power would you share it?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      so if their are beings that do indeed have cosmic powers there has to be one where everything sprouted from. which means they didn't give any being created the power to destroy the source. because why would the source want to die. but selfishness is a human trait right? so how could the source not give other entities the power to wipe out the source?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Idk, I think that if phenomenal cosmic powers exist they would probably behave similar to electricity, magnetism, fluid dynamics, or some other scientific phenomenon under the hood. Meaning they wouldn't care if they were used for good or evil, they would be open to everyone, but it would be up to us to discover them, and additionally they would likely have some mechanism of action that would involve assembling physical materials in certain patterns and allowing them to react to each other's presence (like a radio, for example) in a way that cascades outwards into the rest of the universe. (possibly like radio waves)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i'd personally share some ways / spells that aren't that powerful or dangerous just to show everyone that they work

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I was thinking the same thing... Here is the problem I came up with; what if the dangerous stuff uses the same mechanism of action as the benign stuff and by showing them something benign; you accidentally teach them just enough to figure out the dangerous stuff on their own?

        For example, a small amount of gunpowder can be relatively benign, but if you compress the gasses that it creates and use those compressed gases to launch a projectile; you have a bullet... Would teaching people who don't know anything about guns how to make sparklers; be a good idea? Probably not...

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Has ANYONE got ANYTHING real ANYWHERE?
    Yes
    What are you, 14
    Read more you stupid monolingual

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      1). I probably read more than you. I read enough to know that just because it was written in a book; that doesn't make it legitimate and factual information, and

      2). I'm bilingual...

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >> bilingual
        In Sumerian and ancient greek I hope.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          いいえ、英語と日本語にあります。

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >How get phenomenal cosmic power /x/?
      You won't. Drives like that for money or power get in a way of occult endeavors. Your intent guides a big part of your progress, and if it's rooted in material wants, it's much harder to reach for the divine. Those who get anywhere despite it do it at considerable personal expense, through access to resources and contacts you don't have or through effort greater than what it normally would take to get where they did.
      >All of western magic and occultism
      Ignore what is connected to what, go with what works. Most traditions share certain prerequisite practices and points. Concentrate on those and ponder intent and meaning behind others.
      >You can't find anything REAL in the English speaking world..
      Then you're shit at looking. Most secrets still secret are in regards to particular rituals and practices for higher levels of attainment in boundaries of particular traditions and thus of no value to you at this point.
      is harsh but points you well

      1). I probably read more than you. I read enough to know that just because it was written in a book; that doesn't make it legitimate and factual information, and

      2). I'm bilingual...

      >1). I probably read more than you. I read enough to know that just because it was written in a book; that doesn't make it legitimate and factual information
      Then even accounting for that you either read crap or cannot understand and properly use what you read. You wouldn't have this beginner's problem otherwise. So either you lie or, don't know if it's not worse, you're an armchair magician, head filled with rituals you'd only perform by rote, words - and no clue of the meaning, symbolism, practical ability to utilize it all which you'd get from proper, organized practices. No clue how to approach all that knowledge to any effect.

      Want progress? Change the attitude, you really don't know half as much as you think you do if you're where you are. Get off your high horse, cultivate humility, curb expectations, improve your character, start from the basics of actual practice, especially daily, undisturbed meditation, self-awareness, visualization.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Go with what works

        Ok then, show me something in the English speaking world that works and isn't just The Golden Dawn LARPing...

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Rituals and spells won't work for you for obvious reasons now. But basic practices I've mentioned work and they exist in most traditions, be they hermetic (Golden Dawn or not) or others. They improve you as a person. And if you also work on yourself, develop virtues of humility, respect etc it'll help your spiritual practice as well. Hit those books again, but this time try to understand what is why. Magic isn't procedural "do these steps" kind of thing you can do by rote without understanding or a degree of spiritual development.

          If you expect "what works" as in expect I'd give you some foolproof spell or ritual that works on its own, then you haven't read or understood basics and think of the magic as if it's pop culture shit. It's not. Spells or rituals don't work like in pop culture and if you practice well, depending on tradition, you actually don't need them to do stuff. They are to help do stuff you already can do, and only if you understand meaning of each their element.

          By the way, if you'll go for eastern practices, you'll have the same issues and things you'll have to go through, perhaps with the difference of practices like qigong dependent more on your physical health and movement (also not guaranteed, there's shitloads of qigong and related practices).

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It sounds like you are talking about theurgy/mentalism, which from what I can tell is essentially just glorified self help... What I am looking for is ACTUAL Thaumaturgy... Old school shamanism, shape-shifting, miracles, the turning of water into wine, I know things that our current scientific understanding cannot explain exist, I have experienced them accidentally multiple times in my life, I just don't know anything about them other than they exist...

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're a dumb frick if you think you can get to actual Thaumaturgy without having a strong basework of exactly what the other anon is talking about. Reread the first sentence they wrote and come back to the thread with something other than avarice.
            >which from what I can tell is essentially just glorified self help
            Congratulations, you've just instantaneously showcased that you have no idea how magic functions.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          sorcery like any skill is built on fundementals to train and practices to work on those fundementals and put them together with real measurable effects depending on the skill, carlos castenada's sorcery is the only thing ive read that fits that criteria in regards to treating sorcery like a skill, are there others that do? potentially but theyre so bogged down in theory and metaphor and sidetracked in things that dont pertain to real magic that theyre not practical to use, imagine trying to learn art and your teacher only speaks in metaphors and tells you you need to be a good person to master art, youre not going to get anywhere

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm open to the idea that sorcery is a skill that needs to be trained...

            What starts to sound fishy to me is when people tell me that I need to help others, eat healthy, and get regular physical exercise in order to train that skill...

            If I want to learn how to program; I practice by programming, if I want to learn how to fish; I practice by fishing, you don't learn how to do math by being a better person...

            When I am told that in order to practice magic, I have to be able to get the thing that I want without magic; that sounds like glorified self help...

            I will look more into Carlos Castaneda's work. Thank you for the recommendation!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            exactly i felt like i was having this same problem as well as most magic systems having murky objectives , for example in solomonic magic its very unclear whether or not you should see demons or not to where i read some practitioners argue abt it, in castenada's "toltec sorcery" there are sensory and especially visual feedback, you can probably ignore the first few books because theyre just stories while the latter ones mostly deal with practice, the subreddit if you can excuse some of the users has a wiki of all the practices more concisely

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I would suggest you get familiar with the basics like what is a keyboard, how do I put the cable in the outlet and where is the standby button on the monitor before you start programming. Likewise I'd suggest learning the differences between water and land and between fish and birds before you start fishing, but you can do it however you like.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            your analogies aint working since the average person already knows what all the stuff is or it takes a page to explain, i assume its a metaphor for learning esoteric concepts for you get started which you need to be able demonstrate or "give a map" for someone to follow to see its a real concept, youre going to learn those concepts anyways intuitively or subconsciously when you practice and you get real objective results with any real skill you do

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Desire for money and power don't get in the way of occult progress whatsoever. You're full of shit and you know nothing about the occult. You can progress in "occult endeavors" as the most selfish, hateful bastard in existence. In fact, you'd be more likely to manifest physical effects over those concerned with gay "divinity". What actually gets in the way of occult endeavors isn't merely desiring a piece of the Universe's infinite abundance, but instead being overly concerned with outcomes, while also trying to force results. This works against any given desire, not just money or power.

        Don’t listen to any of these fricking idiots in this thread.
        There are people who have whispered the truth to you for thousands of years through the art of “fiction.”
        I will not tell you how to channel it, I have no idea who the frick you are or what your intentions are. But I will prove to you it exists.
        Go outside. Yes, outside, away from the manipulation and machination of nature. You can not feel it your first time indoors. Even most major cities are corrupted because there are structures below you.
        Disrobe. Fully.
        With the soles of your feet touching the earth, the actual earth, and palms of your hands outstretched and skyward and bonus points if it’s raining.
        Close your eyes.
        Breathe. Just breathe.
        Quiet your mind.
        Feel how small you really are. Feel how at the mercy of the powers of nature you really are.
        Now, realize you are not that tiny container. You are not the crude matter that binds you.
        You are light. Small at first. But as you realize you’re not contained to your vessel, you begin to expand, and will feel other lights all around you, and as you expand and feel all the light all around you, will realize there is another light, all encompassing, binding, you will be aware it passes through your light while tying everything else together.
        That is cosmic power. And yes, you can harness it.

        You don't need to do all of this shit. Just start any energy manipulation practice and do the basic techniques until you feel movement in your energy body, or the energy around you. Can take a while to work, depending on your lifestyle and proclivities.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Crystals! You can get phenomenal cosmic power if you use the right crystals.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've heard that if you smack a crystal; it will produce an electrical discharge via the piezoelectric effect... I wonder how hard you'd have to smack one to get phenomenal cosmic power... Lol

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    god has shown me at least 4 million different pictures. i've gotten pretty sick of seeing pictures i guess. well, i could show you any one of these pictures hes shown me and you'd know god drew them! his pictures are really different than the pictures we have here. so, thats cool, even an industry like drawings are still very new. we dont really have the technology to draw pictures like he does. or maybe we do, i dont know. i guess the main thing? it feels like i'm viewing more of the picture than i should. so, most of the pictures hes shown me is actually pornography. he forces me to watch pictures of women in my mind, while he tells me over and over that i'll never get to frick one! anyways, his pictures are like 3D and also force me to zoom in on her vegana. so its like i have a zoom function i guess, but with my eye, like im a cyborg or something. so he will just keep forcing me to watch nude girls in my mind basically and stare at their vegana over and over. one thing about that? not a great time, nobody wants to look at that. so - i'm being tortured. but, i've returned from the otherworld with information about a new form of drawings. i also know many other things which i shouldnt actually know. im like a traveler to the otherworld and the otherworld is literally getting raped by god!

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I really do know where you can get "cosmic powers", but me saying it to you would honestly pollute your future development. Seek and you shall find if you have the necessary "madness" and will to pursue this path. Don't expect to frick girls or party hard (at least at first). Normie life is thrown out the window and your world view will literally change completely. These are enough hints.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most magical traditions require a lot of dedication and also claim to have a foundation in madness. World changing realizations are also common claims.

      Eastern monks spend most of their day in meditation for their entire lives, western magicians have The Abramelon which is an 18 month long initiation ritual.

      The hints that you left could probably be applied to almost any magical tradition...

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don’t listen to any of these fricking idiots in this thread.
    There are people who have whispered the truth to you for thousands of years through the art of “fiction.”
    I will not tell you how to channel it, I have no idea who the frick you are or what your intentions are. But I will prove to you it exists.
    Go outside. Yes, outside, away from the manipulation and machination of nature. You can not feel it your first time indoors. Even most major cities are corrupted because there are structures below you.
    Disrobe. Fully.
    With the soles of your feet touching the earth, the actual earth, and palms of your hands outstretched and skyward and bonus points if it’s raining.
    Close your eyes.
    Breathe. Just breathe.
    Quiet your mind.
    Feel how small you really are. Feel how at the mercy of the powers of nature you really are.
    Now, realize you are not that tiny container. You are not the crude matter that binds you.
    You are light. Small at first. But as you realize you’re not contained to your vessel, you begin to expand, and will feel other lights all around you, and as you expand and feel all the light all around you, will realize there is another light, all encompassing, binding, you will be aware it passes through your light while tying everything else together.
    That is cosmic power. And yes, you can harness it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So just go into an open area, in a large city, away from all structures, get naked, and wait for God to show up?

      I think I saw a homeless man doing this the other day... Lol

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No I specifically said this has to be done away from the manipulation of nature. Meaning society. If you want to harness the power of the stars you might want to master reading first.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The manipulation of nature could be taken as people manipulating nature or as nature being manipulative but the "machination" of nature implies that nature itself is plotting something and to get away from it's plotting...

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Autocorrect doesn’t want to accept machinization as a word, though I stand heavily by the fact it is one.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Do you mean mechanization?

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well, I haven't had time to delve too deep into Carlos's work, but from what I've seen so far; it's more self help...

    His "nagual" seems to just be "the shadow" or "the primal self" that the self help people talk about and on top of that

    He's got like 3 rules;
    Law of Order of the Body,
    Law of Order of Thought,
    Law of 3 Statements...

    All of this just points to self help so far and doesn't seem to be related to Thaumaturgy at all...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      idk where you got any of those laws from if you could tell me where, if theyre in his books or something theyre such a minor point i forgot about them. forget about "refining yourself until youre ready" or any sort of self help, spoiler for the books as well, the warrior's way is pointless until youre doing magic anyways, don juan explains why he taught carlos it so much in the beginning in the later books. the real stuff is shutting off internal dialogue, dark room practice, gazing techniques, tensegrity and recapitulation, each with real objective cues that lets you know if youre doing it correctly as long as you're practicing inner silence

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I like to do a rundown on people before I commit to reading their work. I need to check more sources, this is admittedly the first thing that I could find on him...

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          listening to it now but the pagan symbols are not a good look, most youtube videos ive watched do a horrible job describing carlos' works because they add in a lot of new age stuff to it or miss more important information

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          listening to it now but the pagan symbols are not a good look, most youtube videos ive watched do a horrible job describing carlos' works because they add in a lot of new age stuff to it or miss more important information

          most of the information seems to be diluted with "spiritual teachings" from other systems, theres nothing inherently spiritual abt this, and there are some other information that is wrong and the correct info is true but not really important, like the development of awareness and all that, you'll get that kind of stuff practicing the magic in the same way you get athletic practicing a sport, you dont get athletic first and then start practicing, you just hop in the practice and itll develop naturally, i hope that analogy makes sense, and youll waste time and energy trying to have the "right mindset or discipline or focus etc etc" when you coudlve just practiced

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You mentioned Don Juan. Would this one be a good one to check out first?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i believe the second ring of power is where it starts to be more about the actual techniques and knowledge, the first 4 i believe are just carlos' experiences

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Alrighty, I guess I will check out this one then. Thanks for the heads up!

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s ALL ABOUT dark room gazing and practicing Carlos Castaneda stuff! I know Reddit is hated on here but anons do yourself a favor and checkout /r/castaneda the guy who runs it runs a very tight ship. But you get results QUICK

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i think we've talked b4 on here if you are who i think you are, how are you doing?

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm checking out "the second ring of power". I am having a hard time telling if it's a book on magic or a romance novel... It sounds like a good part of the book is just about this dude's sexual escapades...

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