How do we know our thoughts come from our brain and not a soul inhabiting a body? Could brains function without a soul?

How do we know our thoughts come from our brain and not a soul inhabiting a body? Could brains function without a soul?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, brains can't function without a soul. Once your brain is completely nonfunctional, your soul absconds permanently. That's how I've come to understand it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When does the soul abscond tough. Do you have to linger around in dyig brain flesh? The japanese comitted seppuku for this very reason, tough they didn't think the brain contained the soul

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think the brain contains the soul either. If by "you," you mean your consciousness, then no. It's like being unconscious. You've experienced unconsciousness while still having a soul. But if you mean "you" as in your soul itself, then yeah. Your soul sticks around until your body has no chance of working anymore. Your soul is still in your body even if you have suffered catastrophic brain damage and have lost most of your ability to reason. The body is just a conduit for the current that is the soul. Even if the wire is frayed, electricity with continue to travel through it. It doesn't end until it's cut completely.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Still, I don't want my consciousness traveling through a frayed wire. That's like hell before you die or dying before dying

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You wouldn't know. I agree that it's a horrible thing to happen.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The consciousness doesn't "think", it just observes.
          Thoughts and emotions may come from the brain after all and are perceveid by the conciousness.
          As I understand what we call mind is just a amalgamation of the feminine brain parts and the male immortal consciouness that we call spirit or soul.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            so gay to label it female and male honestly

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            nta but its not male and female, it’s masculine and feminine energy which both genders posses. Masculine energy isn’t a male only energy, it is however the core of a male. Creativity is a feminine trait, yet we’re all being creative on a daily basis no? One is not superior to the other, but masculine energy can and will consume feminine energy due to its submissive nature. Stunting females core energy and feminine energy in men, creating what we have today. A sick society fighting against itself

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i think you took too much from the dual slit experiment mah observational bro, its just a laser exciting a fluid.
            since your building layerd concepts on consciousness, can you define consciousnesses?
            ps. the cave is a myth, perception is the external DIRECTLY transmuted to the internal

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My only definition of consciousness is pure awareness, anything that can be perceived (seen, touched, tasted, be felt) is not contentiousness including thoughts and emotions.

            so gay to label it female and male honestly

            Yeah, but don't think about it in terms of sex or gender, as far as I understand in order to the universe to create anything it must manifest as a male part interacting with a female part.
            The conception of a new life is the obvious example but this can be extended to thoughts and emotions, as the consciousness takes the role of the male that brings thoughts into fluidity using the "female" brain apparatus.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The consciousness doesn't "think", it just observes.
            Thoughts and emotions may come from the brain after all and are perceveid by the conciousness.
            As I understand what we call mind is just a amalgamation of the feminine brain parts and the male immortal consciouness that we call spirit or soul.

            sooo.... consciousness is a purely aware observer that dosnt perceive.... ?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Consciousness is a purely aware observer that perceives every thought and emotion that you have, everything that the consciousness perceives exists outside the consciousness.
            Thoughts and emotions are not part of this consciousness.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Consciousness is a purely aware observer that perceives every thought and emotion
            >consciousness is pure awareness, anything that can be perceived is not 'contentiousness' including thoughts and emotions.
            consciousness is a body in motion with the potential for self reference, awareness is mind without the latency of confusion (thinking)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            hmm... I guess the consciousness can be aware of itself and maybe other consciousness as well, so my definition is flawed.
            But other than that I see no contradiction between the two statements, thoughts and emotions are just "objects" perceived by the consciousness they are not part of the consciousness (pure awareness).
            What I'm defend, basically, is that even if you strip every thought and emotion, there will still be something, and that's something is your true self: an immortal and immutable consciousness, whose sole function, ability and purpose is be aware of things (maybe the word 'perceive' was not a good choice).

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The brain is dormant while sleeping, only activvity is the central cns of the hindbrain amygada, and raphe nuclei of the central brainstem, along with the pons
    Upon waking the upper brain and higher echephlonic structures become more active and hence your not dead but oblivious untill conscious.
    Sleeping people have souls, and so it doesn't matter.
    The brain is just the seat of cognition, but it can be translocated base on obe experiences and such. ergo, salience is not necessarily configured to a body. that is the mind

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What about that dog that got his brain transplanted? Did it still have a soul?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If that were real, every chinese “scientist” would be doing brain transplants. They treat dogs like we do chickens

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I guess u really can't

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Read blindsight

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Decent book, although the vampire bit was too gimmicky for me.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://m.youtube.com/shorts/vN9U82nB91M
    You basically only need a pineal-pituitary complex to maintain average intelligence, for most people the brain hemispheres are redundant. That speaks volumes about the nature of how your average NPC operates.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Some thoughts aren't even yours. They come from other spirits.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    check out concombre zombi, I'd assume the soul doesn't play a role in it but it's never mentioned and, you know, I lack the means to communicate with haitian jamals

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >concombre zombi
      some fricking chud made a band with that name, so google for
      'concombre zombi -music -artist -album'

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the gestalt harmony of the physical components of your body is the soul that animates said static components to the self referential motion of consciousness.
    thinking is the confusion that exsists between discovery and awareness, if your always thinking it probably means youve discovered a frick ton of things youve insufficient experience to process without latency ie awareness.
    your soul is possessed by only confusion, be not confused.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The body and soul and "mind" are all linked.

    The very idea that they are seperate entities is a sick blasphemy that has done so much harm.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They might be linked but they’re also seperate. Have you tried communicating with your body? If you had, you would know.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why would I personify my body then talk to myself?
        Yeah it would make it easier to interact with if you suck at body awareness. But that doesn't mean it's seperate.

        Okay.
        People who have had heart and organ transplants always end up having personality changes and taste changes.

        Did their soul and brain change?

        People take drugs or are subjected to mental tortures or emotional spiritual changes that affects them forever.

        People can mentally stress their bodies till they are sick and weak.

        It's all connected and whole.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Look at Ben Carson’s work. I’m pretty sure you can have a functioning brain but be spiritually dead.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Define spirituality if you don't mind.
      I'm curious.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Our thoughts come from us.

    We are the spirit that inhabits our brain that inhabits our body. Could a brain function without a spirit? Yes of course. Our brain is just a vessel our spirits are steering but it's still a brain.

    As an analogy. Imagine a car, the driver is the spirit, the steering wheel and pedals are our brain and the body is our body with the engine etc being organs.
    Can a car exist without a driver? Yes but it's not going to do much without a healthy driver.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Could a brain function without a spirit?
      spirit is external sensory inputs directly transmuted to self referential perceptual outputs, the brains function is spirit, so no of course it couldnt

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The brains function is to steer the body. It just so happens that we all have spirits.

        We know brains can be steered without a spirit because drugs, alcohol and regular chemicals influences the brain to steer the bodt into doing things without the spirits knowledge or control.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          alcohol ... aka spirts lol
          could you define spirit in your own words? you seem to have an extensive list of what is and is not spirit, this should be no issue for you

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Good joke about spirits lol

            I don't have an extensive list of what is and isn't a spirit. Our spirits are the things that exist outside of our brains that control our brains.

            Outside chemical influence is proof that our brains can be controlled without a spirit. OP asked if they can be controlled and I've said yes and explained why.

            The answer is because our spirits use chemicals in our brains to steer them. Chemicals from outside our spirits and so our thoughts, do control our bodies. Taking testosterone will change your mood. Getting drunk will change the controls our spirits are using.
            It's the same reason women on birth control and off it, are attracted to different men. Because the hormones being fed to them are influencing the brain and their spirit doesn't even know it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            when i get more aggressive, i know it, self regulation of emotion is a 3+sd trait (ignoring that which would otherwise move you is a +4 emergent trait)
            i cant help but note your describing the effects of spirt with out saying what spirit is, this is an easy position to hold cause theres nothing definitive, spirit is any radiance (probability) outside the elemental (deterministic) container transmuted to any internal referential system.
            ps. as i said,

            the gestalt harmony of the physical components of your body is the soul that animates said static components to the self referential motion of consciousness.
            thinking is the confusion that exsists between discovery and awareness, if your always thinking it probably means youve discovered a frick ton of things youve insufficient experience to process without latency ie awareness.
            your soul is possessed by only confusion, be not confused.

            your body is your soul, why would altering it not have an effect? (i doubt youll answer, and if you do i doubt your answer will include what soul is)

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Doesnt most people gain conciousness at the age of 2-3? So, a brain without a soul would be helpless like a baby, maybe? I dunno, good question

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      whats a soul?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A soul is a spark of light in the vast sea that is the universe. Calm your body and mind, and you can momentarily feel what it’s like to ride the waves of the dark sea again. Find yourself in the stillness, realise silence is divine.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Schizo Retard

        it's not a real thing. only THE BRAIN is real

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God just uses my thoughts as an excuse to abuse me because he's a moronic sadist (he would abuse me anyway). If my thoughts shaped reality at all I would be rich and attractive and generally have a desirable life instead of being poor and ugly and having anything considered desirable violently gatekept from me even in my thoughts. My mind just gets raped ever second of every day by God and he tries to use my thoughts as an excuse to abuse me. He claims ownership of any thoughts he thinks are useful, profitable, insightful etc and says they're not really my thoughts, that they're his thoughts but then denies ownership of any thoughts I think that he believes are stupid, unprofitable, embarrassing, etc and believes he's justified in abusing me for thinking these thoughts. God is a moronic sadist who abuses me endlessly. If my thoughts are mine then it's wrong to violate them, if they're not mine then it's wrong to abuse me for them, either way God is evil.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe though we see people go brain dead.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah Auto Pilot is real.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The workings of material energy are not directly affected by self that observes it.
    In other words, the brain already DOES function without a soul, but you - the soul - are observing it.
    Any sufficiently advanced system can "house" a soul in this way - from the highest material being to the lowest.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not having a soul will cause you to act like Daniel Dennett.

    https://www.jaronlanier.com/zombie.html

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      great stuff, thanks for posting it anon

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The soul can't exist without the brain. Not in any way anyone can comprehend. Not in any way that supports perception, memory, or personality, or anything else that makes for individuality.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    NPCs

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This homies Head is in a jar. Does his consciousness and soul exist?
    Can a soul / consciousness be sorted in a computer?

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